Re: 6th summary (was Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.)

[Robert Collins]

On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 11:43 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> NOTE: This is one mail before the last on this matter.


> LIST 1: PACKAGES WITH UNCLEAR OWNERSHIP
> ===
> 
>   dpkg   Robert Collins or up for grabs?
>   squid  Robert Collins or up for grabs?

I thought I had made this clear.

Up for grabs.

Rob


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Re: [ITP] run.exe was Re: Running ssh in background [solution/patch]

[Charles Wilson]

Alexander Gottwald wrote:


Incidentally, I have a few patches to run.exe.  Where should I send them?


Err...dunno.  I'd say cygwin mailing list, because both I(*) and ago 
will see them there.


(*) as if it matters :-)


To me. I did not found any canonical upstream location anymore.


Technically, the upstream location is
  http://cygutils.fruitbat.org/run/index.html
but that version was originally adapted (by me) from a similar program 
distributed by XEmacs (I think there was also some later 
cross-pollination between "my" version and the XEmacs one)


However, I haven't actively maintained the fruitbat.org version in AGES 
-- once run.exe was absorbed into the cygwin-x distro and then 
subsequently forked, I didn't see the need: as far as I was concerned, 
the "official" one was the one maintained by the X folks, and my 
"original" was simply a historical footnote.


I am *not* upset about this, and it was perfectly GPL-acceptable for 
Suhaib(I think) to have absorbed run.exe into the x-dist instead of 
asking Xusers to download an unofficial non-setup-compatible utility 
from some-randome-website.



It seems
"Charles S. Wilson once wrote this but there have been many patches 
since it was packaged in X-startup-scripts.


Yes, that is absolutely true.  Even I consider the x-startup-scripts 
version to be the canonical cygwin run.exe.


I'm willing to "re-take" run.exe and incorporate it into the cygutils 
pakcage IF Brian/Igor/ago want me to do so; otherwise I fully support 
Brian's ITP of run as an independent package.


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Re: 6th summary (was Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.)

[Abraham Backus]

It's about time that I replied...  I've been swamped with more responsibilities 
at work and haven't been able to maintain my packages.  They are all out of 
date.  One collection (c-client and uw-imap*) has a security issue that would 
be resolved by upgrading the package to the current released version.  The 
package also still needs to be re-built against the current openssl version.

All of my packages below should be considered "for grabs".  If anyone wants to 
take over any of them, the src packages should have all of the necessary 
scripts for re-creating packages.

thank you,
-Abe


- Original Message -
> > This "survey" will run until 2005-10-31.  I will ping every week, so you
> > have a bit of time.  However, if you don't reply until 2005-10-31, your
> > packages will be up for grabs.  Which means, they will disappear from
> > the Cygwin net distribution if nobody wants to take over maintainership.
> 
> Later changes due to dropping or switching maintainership should be
> explicitely mentioned at one point, please.
> 
> Again, note that packages w/o maintainers on 2005-10-31 are up for grabs
> and are removed from the distro if nobody volunteers to take over
> maintainership.
> 
> LIST 3: PACKAGES WITHOUT REPLY FROM MAINTAINER SO FAR
> =
> 
>c-client
>libsmi
>libxerces-c21
>libxerces-c22
>libxerces-c23
>libxerces-c24
>libxerces-c25
>uw-imap
>uw-imap-imapd
>uw-imap-util
>xerces-c
>xerces-c-devel
>xerces-c-doc

Re: [ITP] run.exe was Re: Running ssh in background [solution/patch]

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Alexander Gottwald wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>
> > Incidentally, I have a few patches to run.exe.  Where should I send them?
>
> To me. I did not found any canonical upstream location anymore. It seems
> "Charles S. Wilson once wrote this but there have been many patches
> since it was packaged in X-startup-scripts.

I wonder if it would make sense to host "run" in the cygwin-apps CVS
repository...
Igor
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Re: [ITP] run.exe was Re: Running ssh in background [solution/patch]

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Alexander Gottwald wrote:

> On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 15:43 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>
> > Maybe you could install a symlink in /usr/X11R6/bin, in the postinstall
> > script, not in the package itself.  The idea is that a postinstall
> > script can create a symlink as windows shortcut by forcing
> > CYGWIN=winsymlinks on ln(1).
>
> run.exe is often used from Windows shortcuts to start programs like
> XWin. Even the X-start-menu-icons uses it this way, A shortcut will not
> work.

FWIW, setup supports hardlinks in binary tarballs, and does the right
thing w.r.t. copying, etc, when needed.

Since I'm replying here anyway, the patches I mentioned are attached
(along with the new icon).  The icon is useful for a VIm shortcut
(essentially "run rxvt -e vim") -- yes, I know I could use a separate icon
file, but this is easier, and this vim icon is otherwise only available as
part of the VIm source.
Igor
==
2005-10-26  Igor Pechtchanski  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Makefile.cygwin (run): Change to use $(CC).
* run.c (main): Make retval unsigned.
* run.rc (VIM): New icon.

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+++ Makefile.cygwin 2004-07-20 18:51:35.0 -0400
@@ -2,8 +2,8 @@
 .SUFFIXES: .c.o .rc.o
 # Makefile for gnu-win32 environments
 run : run.c run.h run_res.o
-   gcc -c -I. -O2 run.c -o run.o
-   gcc -mwindows -e _mainCRTStartup run.o run_res.o -o run.exe
+   $(CC) -c -I. -O2 run.c -o run.o
+   $(CC) -mwindows -e _mainCRTStartup run.o run_res.o -o run.exe
 
 run_res.o : run.rc
windres -i run.rc -o run_res.o
--- run.c-orig  2002-08-08 18:10:47.0 -0400
+++ run.c   2004-07-20 18:47:16.0 -0400
@@ -123,7 +123,7 @@ int start_child(char* cmdline, int wait_
SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES sec_attrs;
SECURITY_DESCRIPTOR sec_desc;
PROCESS_INFORMATION child;
-   int retval;
+   DWORD retval;
 
memset (&start, 0, sizeof (start));
start.cb = sizeof (start);
--- run.rc-orig 1998-12-19 22:45:19.0 -0500
+++ run.rc  2004-07-20 19:08:36.0 -0400
@@ -3,6 +3,7 @@ rxvt ICON "rxvt.ico"

 XEmacs ICON "xemacs.ico"

 XEmacsFile ICON "File.ico"

 XEmacsLisp ICON "Lisp.ico"

+VIM ICON "vim.ico"

 

 #include 

 #include "run.h"



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Re: [ITP] run.exe was Re: Running ssh in background [solution/patch]

[Alexander Gottwald]

On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 18:49 +0200, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> 
> run.exe is often used from Windows shortcuts to start programs like
> XWin. Even the X-start-menu-icons uses it this way, A shortcut will not
> work. 

To clarify this: X-start-menu-icons won't be a showstopper since it can
be easily adjusted. I'm more concerned about the shortcuts on user X's
desktop like those on mine:

C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\run.exe -p /usr/X11R6/bin xterm -display
127.0.0.1:0.0 -e /usr/bin/ssh -Y lupus
C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\run.exe -p /usr/X11R6/bin xterm -geometry 160x50
-display 127.0.0.1:0.0 -e ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

bye
ago


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Re: [ITP] run.exe was Re: Running ssh in background [solution/patch]

[Alexander Gottwald]

On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 15:43 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

> Maybe you could install a symlink in /usr/X11R6/bin, in the postinstall
> script, not in the package itself.  The idea is that a postinstall
> script can create a symlink as windows shortcut by forcing
> CYGWIN=winsymlinks on ln(1).

run.exe is often used from Windows shortcuts to start programs like
XWin. Even the X-start-menu-icons uses it this way, A shortcut will not
work. 

bye
ago


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Re: 6th summary (was Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.)

[Alexander Gottwald]

On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 15:18 +0100, Alan Hourihane wrote:

> 
> Sure. I could take these two.

Great. Thanks.

bye
ago



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Re: 6th summary (was Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.)

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Oct 26 15:18, Alan Hourihane wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 16:02 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > On Oct 26 13:17, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> > > On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > > 
> > > >   cygwin-x-doc   
> > > >   x-start-menu-icons 
> > > >   x-startup-scripts  
> > > >   xwinwm
> > > 
> > > These 4 were created by Harold Hunt and handed over to me.
> > > I had to give up maintaining all X11 related packages and 
> > > Alan Hourihane took over the xorg-x11-* packages. At least
> > > the x-start-menu-icons and x-startup-scripts packages are
> > > related to xorg-x11-* too and I'd be glad if Alan could
> > > handle them too.
> > 
> > Alan?
> 
> Sure. I could take these two.
> 
> > > xwinwm is experimental and has not received and updates in
> > > the last 18 months
> > 
> > Would you think this is obsolete then?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > > the cygwin-x-doc package is out of sync with the doc on the
> > > x.cygwin.com website and should be removed if no one wants to 
> > > maintain them since the most recent documnetaion for cygwin/X 
> > > is always available on the website too.
> > 
> > I'd opt for obsoleting this package, too, then, ok?
> 
> Yes. We can always re-instate it if people request it, as for xwinwm
> too.

Thanks, package list fixed.


Corinna

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Re: 6th summary (was Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.)

[Alan Hourihane]

On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 16:02 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On Oct 26 13:17, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> > On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > 
> > >   cygwin-x-doc   
> > >   x-start-menu-icons 
> > >   x-startup-scripts  
> > >   xwinwm
> > 
> > These 4 were created by Harold Hunt and handed over to me.
> > I had to give up maintaining all X11 related packages and 
> > Alan Hourihane took over the xorg-x11-* packages. At least
> > the x-start-menu-icons and x-startup-scripts packages are
> > related to xorg-x11-* too and I'd be glad if Alan could
> > handle them too.
> 
> Alan?

Sure. I could take these two.

> > xwinwm is experimental and has not received and updates in
> > the last 18 months
> 
> Would you think this is obsolete then?

Yes.

> > the cygwin-x-doc package is out of sync with the doc on the
> > x.cygwin.com website and should be removed if no one wants to 
> > maintain them since the most recent documnetaion for cygwin/X 
> > is always available on the website too.
> 
> I'd opt for obsoleting this package, too, then, ok?

Yes. We can always re-instate it if people request it, as for xwinwm
too.

Alan.

Re: 6th summary (was Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.)

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Oct 26 13:17, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> 
> >   cygwin-x-doc   
> >   x-start-menu-icons 
> >   x-startup-scripts  
> >   xwinwm
> 
> These 4 were created by Harold Hunt and handed over to me.
> I had to give up maintaining all X11 related packages and 
> Alan Hourihane took over the xorg-x11-* packages. At least
> the x-start-menu-icons and x-startup-scripts packages are
> related to xorg-x11-* too and I'd be glad if Alan could
> handle them too.

Alan?

> xwinwm is experimental and has not received and updates in
> the last 18 months

Would you think this is obsolete then?

> the cygwin-x-doc package is out of sync with the doc on the
> x.cygwin.com website and should be removed if no one wants to 
> maintain them since the most recent documnetaion for cygwin/X 
> is always available on the website too.

I'd opt for obsoleting this package, too, then, ok?


Corinna

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Re: [ITP] run.exe was Re: Running ssh in background [solution/patch]

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Oct 26 15:35, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> 
> > > [ITP] I think I'll split run.exe from the X-startup-scripts package and
> > > create a new one which i'll continue to maintain.
> > 
> > FINALLY!  It's been on my TODO list for *ages*.  Thank you!
> 
> I'd like to put it in /usr/bin. How should I handle the transition?
> Many users will have shortcuts which refer to /usr/X11R6/bin/run.exe.

Maybe you could install a symlink in /usr/X11R6/bin, in the postinstall
script, not in the package itself.  The idea is that a postinstall
script can create a symlink as windows shortcut by forcing
CYGWIN=winsymlinks on ln(1).


Corinna

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Re: [ITP] run.exe was Re: Running ssh in background [solution/patch]

[Alexander Gottwald]

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:

> > [ITP] I think I'll split run.exe from the X-startup-scripts package and
> > create a new one which i'll continue to maintain.
> 
> FINALLY!  It's been on my TODO list for *ages*.  Thank you!

I'd like to put it in /usr/bin. How should I handle the transition?
Many users will have shortcuts which refer to /usr/X11R6/bin/run.exe.
 
> Incidentally, I have a few patches to run.exe.  Where should I send them?

To me. I did not found any canonical upstream location anymore. It seems
"Charles S. Wilson once wrote this but there have been many patches 
since it was packaged in X-startup-scripts.

>   Igor
> P.S. Why is this ITP going to the main list?  Shouldn't it be on
> cygwin-apps?

I'll fup there
 
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Re: 6th summary (was Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.)

[Alexander Gottwald]

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

>   cygwin-x-doc   
>   x-start-menu-icons 
>   x-startup-scripts  
>   xwinwm

These 4 were created by Harold Hunt and handed over to me.
I had to give up maintaining all X11 related packages and 
Alan Hourihane took over the xorg-x11-* packages. At least
the x-start-menu-icons and x-startup-scripts packages are
related to xorg-x11-* too and I'd be glad if Alan could
handle them too.

xwinwm is experimental and has not received and updates in
the last 18 months

the cygwin-x-doc package is out of sync with the doc on the
x.cygwin.com website and should be removed if no one wants to 
maintain them since the most recent documnetaion for cygwin/X 
is always available on the website too.

bye
ago
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6th summary (was Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.)

[Corinna Vinschen]

NOTE: This is one mail before the last on this matter.

To find also maintainers which are *accidentally* not subscribed to
cygwin-apps, I'm cross-posting to the cygwin mailing list.  Please send
your replies only to the cygwin-apps mailing list, which *all*
maintainers should be subscribed to anyway.


On Sep 15 18:45, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> Mails in the last couple of weeks indicate that we have lost one or the
> other maintainer without getting any notice from them.  Since we have
> a couple of packages which haven't been updated for a good amount of time,
> there's apparently a need to find out, which packages are still maintained
> and which have lost their maintainer on the way.
> 
> So, ALL maintainers of Cygwin packages,
> 
>   please reply to this mail within the next six weeks,
> 
>   including a list of ALL packages you maintain.
> 
> This "survey" will run until 2005-10-31.  I will ping every week, so you
> have a bit of time.  However, if you don't reply until 2005-10-31, your
> packages will be up for grabs.  Which means, they will disappear from
> the Cygwin net distribution if nobody wants to take over maintainership.

Below are the results as of today 2005-10-26.  It would be helpful if
all maintainers could scan this lists again, so that we're sure that
nothing has been left out accidentally and to clear up some questions.
Later changes due to dropping or switching maintainership should be
explicitely mentioned at one point, please.

Again, note that packages w/o maintainers on 2005-10-31 are up for grabs
and are removed from the distro if nobody volunteers to take over
maintainership.  Have a serious look especially into LIST 3 below, to
see if you'd like to maintain one of these orphaned packages.


Corinna


LIST 1: PACKAGES WITH UNCLEAR OWNERSHIP
===

  dpkg   Robert Collins or up for grabs?
  squid  Robert Collins or up for grabs?


LIST 2: PACKAGES WITH NEW MAINTAINER BUT WITHOUT NEW PACKAGE SO FAR
===

  agetty Nicholas Wourms (so far Sergey Okhapkin)
  chkconfig  Nicholas Wourms (so far Sergey Okhapkin)
  ctags  Warren Young (???)
  ghostscriptJames R. Phillips (so far Rajesh Balakrishnan)
  ghostscript-base   James R. Phillips (so far Rajesh Balakrishnan)
  ghostscript-x11James R. Phillips (so far Rajesh Balakrishnan)
  initscriptsNicholas Wourms (so far Sergey Okhapkin)
  keychain   Nicholas Wourms (so far Hack Kampbjorn)
  ncftp  Nicholas Wourms (so far Hack Kampbjorn)
  sysvinit   Nicholas Wourms (so far Sergey Okhapkin)
  xinetd Nicholas Wourms (so far Sergey Okhapkin)


LIST 3: PACKAGES WITHOUT REPLY FROM MAINTAINER SO FAR
=

  aspell-en  
  astyle 
  c-client   
  catgets
  curl   
  curl-devel 
  cygwin-x-doc   
  editrights 
  elfio  
  emacs  
  emacs-el   
  emacs-leim 
  emacs-x11  
  figlet 
  joe
  lftp   
  libmcrypt  
  libmcrypt-devel
  libsmi 
  libxerces-c21  
  libxerces-c22  
  libxerces-c23  
  libxerces-c24  
  libxerces-c25  
  lighttpd   
  naim   
  rcs
  rxvt   
  splint 
  ssmtp  
  tcp_wrappers   
  ttcp   
  uw-imap
  uw-imap-imapd  
  uw-imap-util   
  x-start-menu-icons 
  x-startup-scripts  
  x2x
  xerces-c   
  xerces-c-devel 
  xerces-c-doc   
  xwinwm 


LIST 4: OBSOLETE PACKAGES
=

  clear  OBSOLETE (???)
  cygipc OBSOLETE (Charles Wilson)
  fileutils  OBSOLETE (Eric Blake)
  libpcreOBSOLETE (Corinna Vinschen)
  regex  OBSOLETE (Corinna)
  sh-utils   OBSOLETE (Eric Blake)
  textutils  OBSOLETE (Eric Blake)
  unison OBSOLETE (Andrew Schulman)
  xf