placing launched MAGIC 7.1 app dissappears
Hi, I got magic 7.1 installed and trying to run it about 10 times only got the magic window to open once. After that, I can't open it at all. The full-screen window opens, the app window is on the mouse cusor, but when I place it, it vanishes. Does anyone know why windows vanish like that? Thanks Ed __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover http://greetings.yahoo.com/
RE: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0?
Oops... XWin-works is my known-good copy of XWin.exe. I do development work on XWin all the time, so I have to save a copy of XWin that works, thus XWin-works. I could have sworn that I removed the '-works' from the file name, but I guess I didn't. Harold -Original Message- From: Victor Atkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 4:57 PM To: Harold Hunt Subject: RE: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0? Harold, Thanks for the fast reply. However, your answer confuses me. I do not have any executable, script or batch file called XWin-works. However, when I modified your example to: start /B XWin :0 -query host1 start /B XWin :1 -query host2 it works perfectly. I would swear that I tried that particular combination. (After being busy with other things for a couple of days, then coming back and taking a fresh look at the documentation, etc, this solution seems obvious to me. Funny how it works out that way sometimes.) Having had success with your suggestions, I modified the original startxwin.bat batch file into something that gives me the functionality that I have been wanting. Below is a 4NT (my command-line-interpreter) batch file that accepts a name of a host running XDM Chooser, then attempts to start XWin on a free display. I don't yet know BASH script programming, but feel free to modify and distribute this as you see fit. begin XWinIndirect.btm - @ echo off ::Check inputs. iff %# lt 1 then echo `Error! Command-line missing desired remote host for XDMCP Chooser query.` quit 1 endiff ::Set global environment variables. set CYGWIN_ROOT=d:\cygwin set PATH=.;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\bin;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr\X11R6\bin;%PATH% ::Find unused X-Server display. for /l %Counter in (0,1,9) ( set TestFile=%CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix\X%Counter% iff not exist %TestFile% then set DisplayNumber=%Counter% goto DisplayFound endiff ) echo 'Error! No unused X-Server display found.' quit 2 :DisplayFound ::Set environment variables for specific X-Server instance. set DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:%DisplayNumber% echo `Found display `%DisplayNumber%` free, attempting to start X-Server as `%DISPLAY% ::Startup the X Server on the specified display. start /B XWin :%DisplayNumber% -screen 0 1024 768 -indirect %1 - begin XWinIndirect.btm Thanks again for your help. Victor Atkinson Syracuse, NY, USA -Original Message- From: Harold Hunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 5:28 PM To: Victor Atkinson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0? Victor, And I have also tried setting the display to alternate values: start /B XWin -display :0 -query host1 start /B XWin -display :1 -query host2 That is gibberish. It doesn't mean anything. What you want is: start /B XWin-works :0 -query host1 start /B XWin-works :1 -query host2 I've tested this and gotten two distinct sessions to one machine (say, host1) at the same time. I don't currently have two XDM hosts, but I'm sure it will work fine with two hosts. Let me know how this works. Harold -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Victor Atkinson Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 5:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0? Greetings, Thanks to all for the quick replies. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get a workable configuration together yet. I have tried both combinations of screen 0 1 designations with XWin: Separate invocations: start /B XWin -screen 0 width height -query host1 start /B XWin -screen 1 width height -query host2 Single invocation: start /B XWin -screen 0 width height -query host1 -screen 1 width height -query host2 And I have also tried setting the display to alternate values: start /B XWin -display :0 -query host1 start /B XWin -display :1 -query host2 as well as all combinations of display screen (0.0, 1.0, 1.1, etc) for the two sessions, both via the command line and the DISPLAY environment variable. The results are almost always identical, first XWin starts and connects to host1. However, when the second server starts, the first screen appears to be reset to and empty X server session (just blank background) while the second server connects to host2. When I am finished with host2 and quit the second session (close the window), then the first session gives me a login prompt at host1 again. It appears as though there is some hardwired common display behavior
RE: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0?
One more thing. I just updated the documentation (User's Guide) yesterday to include an example of how to run multiple XDMCP sessions. I'm not sure, but you may have seen the new documentation when you looked at it today; thus, you didn't miss anything the first time around. Harold -Original Message- From: Victor Atkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 4:57 PM To: Harold Hunt Subject: RE: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0? Harold, Thanks for the fast reply. However, your answer confuses me. I do not have any executable, script or batch file called XWin-works. However, when I modified your example to: start /B XWin :0 -query host1 start /B XWin :1 -query host2 it works perfectly. I would swear that I tried that particular combination. (After being busy with other things for a couple of days, then coming back and taking a fresh look at the documentation, etc, this solution seems obvious to me. Funny how it works out that way sometimes.) Having had success with your suggestions, I modified the original startxwin.bat batch file into something that gives me the functionality that I have been wanting. Below is a 4NT (my command-line-interpreter) batch file that accepts a name of a host running XDM Chooser, then attempts to start XWin on a free display. I don't yet know BASH script programming, but feel free to modify and distribute this as you see fit. begin XWinIndirect.btm - @ echo off ::Check inputs. iff %# lt 1 then echo `Error! Command-line missing desired remote host for XDMCP Chooser query.` quit 1 endiff ::Set global environment variables. set CYGWIN_ROOT=d:\cygwin set PATH=.;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\bin;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr\X11R6\bin;%PATH% ::Find unused X-Server display. for /l %Counter in (0,1,9) ( set TestFile=%CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix\X%Counter% iff not exist %TestFile% then set DisplayNumber=%Counter% goto DisplayFound endiff ) echo 'Error! No unused X-Server display found.' quit 2 :DisplayFound ::Set environment variables for specific X-Server instance. set DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:%DisplayNumber% echo `Found display `%DisplayNumber%` free, attempting to start X-Server as `%DISPLAY% ::Startup the X Server on the specified display. start /B XWin :%DisplayNumber% -screen 0 1024 768 -indirect %1 - begin XWinIndirect.btm Thanks again for your help. Victor Atkinson Syracuse, NY, USA -Original Message- From: Harold Hunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 5:28 PM To: Victor Atkinson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0? Victor, And I have also tried setting the display to alternate values: start /B XWin -display :0 -query host1 start /B XWin -display :1 -query host2 That is gibberish. It doesn't mean anything. What you want is: start /B XWin-works :0 -query host1 start /B XWin-works :1 -query host2 I've tested this and gotten two distinct sessions to one machine (say, host1) at the same time. I don't currently have two XDM hosts, but I'm sure it will work fine with two hosts. Let me know how this works. Harold -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Victor Atkinson Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 5:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0? Greetings, Thanks to all for the quick replies. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get a workable configuration together yet. I have tried both combinations of screen 0 1 designations with XWin: Separate invocations: start /B XWin -screen 0 width height -query host1 start /B XWin -screen 1 width height -query host2 Single invocation: start /B XWin -screen 0 width height -query host1 -screen 1 width height -query host2 And I have also tried setting the display to alternate values: start /B XWin -display :0 -query host1 start /B XWin -display :1 -query host2 as well as all combinations of display screen (0.0, 1.0, 1.1, etc) for the two sessions, both via the command line and the DISPLAY environment variable. The results are almost always identical, first XWin starts and connects to host1. However, when the second server starts, the first screen appears to be reset to and empty X server session (just blank background) while the second server connects to host2. When I am finished with host2 and quit the second session (close the window), then the first session gives me a login prompt at host1 again. It appears as though there is some hardwired
Development - In other news...
Alan Hourihane and I have been working a little bit on the NativeGDI -engine 16 X Server in Cygwin/XFree86. The current CVS builds are completely runable: user input works, drawing graphics works mostly (xterm, twm, with just a few screwups), and most notable the server no longer crashes on startup. However, lots of things don't work: we don't handle redrawing covered-then-exposed regions of our Window, so you have to keep the Cygwin/XFree86 window in focus unless you want the window to clear, opaque stipple-fills don't work yet so the title bar on windows under twm don't have the hatched pattern, and the performance is not something to brag about. That said, we are progressing well on our plan, which goes a little something like the following: 1) Implement winFillSpans, winGetSpans, and winSetSpans. These just draw lines and all graphics functions can be reduced to spans operations. 2) Implement other graphics functions directly. We haven't even begun to start this yet. We have to make a few corrections to the spans routines first. Performance sucks right now because *every* graphics operation must be reduced to a series of line operations. However, we have to have a perfect set of spans routines because there are some X graphics functions that cannot be simply translated into GDI graphics functions. Thus, some X graphics functions will always rely on spans functions. There is one problem that I had not anticipated, but that Alan Hourihane pointed out. It turns out that GDI DIB's (Device Independent Bitmap) use a different byte-order for 1 bit and 4 bit DIBs than they do for 8 bit, 16 bit, 24 bit, and 32 bit DIBs. Alan flipped the BITMAP_BIT_ORDER flag to MSBFirst from the default LSBFirst in xc/programs/Xserver/include/servermd.h. The problem here is that most programs just look at IMAGE_BYTE_ORDER or BITMAP_BYTE_ORDER and assume that they are equal. For now we have them set to different values, which means that some programs will assume bitmaps and pixmaps are LSBFirst while others will assume that they are MSBFirst. The ultimate solution here is to do byte-map order translation for 1 bit and 4 bit DIBs when we do certain operations with them. However, we have yet to identify exactly when to do the translations. Alan and I have been pretty busy with other things lately, so this task has gone unattended for several weeks. Well, I guess that's all for now. I just figured that some people might be interested in what is going on... and *sigh* possibly helping out. If you have some spare time, throw an eye at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoncygwin We've been using that site as a temporary CVS tree for the NativeGDI development. We'll be merging things back into XFree86 when we have something more complete. We have to fix the BITMAP_BIT_ORDER flag before we can merge into XFree86, as none of the other engines draw correctly when BITMAP_BIT_ORDER is set to MSBFirst. Regards, Harold
Re: placing launched MAGIC 7.1 app dissappears
I have been using the given bat file to launch it. The line you refer to as stated in the MAGICXF.bat that launches MAGIC: start XWin -fullscreen -depth 8 -emulate3buttons This launches its own window and you can tell it's 8-bit. I was wondering if I need more RAM on my comp to run it? I did have it up once and it was slow... I can't get it back up though. Ed Harold Hunt wrote: Ed, Because Magic 7.1 only works when you have Windows in 8 bit color mode, or if you run in fullscreen mode at 8 bits per pixel, or if you tell Magic that you want it to use OpenGL for graphics. You can start Cygwin/XFree86 in fullscreen mode at 8 bits per pixel like so: XWin -fullscreen -depth 8 Harold -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Conrad Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 3:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: placing launched MAGIC 7.1 app dissappears Hi, I got magic 7.1 installed and trying to run it about 10 times only got the magic window to open once. After that, I can't open it at all. The full-screen window opens, the app window is on the mouse cusor, but when I place it, it vanishes. Does anyone know why windows vanish like that? Thanks Ed __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover http://greetings.yahoo.com/
using print screen
Why are the colors changed when i use print screen to capture the image in an xwindow? how do i get the actual colors? TIA __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover http://greetings.yahoo.com/
RE: XFree86
You have to ask such questions at the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list. Harold -Original Message- From: Tagas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 9:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: XFree86 Hi, I was reading through the mailing list after discovering i have the dreaded IO error 104. This is what you suggested to do: Sounds like you need to mount your drives in binary mode, and retry the installation as the font files don't quite work right in text mode. I tried typing mount -b -f as has been suggested to me but bash complains that there aren't enough arguments in the command. Since i am relatively new to Unix, i was hoping that you could shed some light on what drives to mount in binary mode, and how to execute the command.. i have read the help in cygwin and on the net, but it doesn't seem applicable (btw, my XWin.log is nearly exactly the same as the one that was posted on the net). Thanks for any help in advance Tagas
