RE: Startx on WinXP

[Igor Pechtchanski]

Hmm, the changes to startx in that patch were supposed to take care of the
unquoted $HOME...  Did the patch apply cleanly, or were some chunks
rejected?  That particular patch was against XFree86-bin-4.3.0-7, so it's
possible that startx changed between that and -8...

Another solution is to use 'mount', as I described in another reply.
Much better than commenting out arbitrary stuff in 'startx'.

Hmm, I'm on 0.93.91-4, and that seems to work ok for me...  Did you try
searching the list archives for reported lesstif problems?  I seem to
recall that there were some (related to the VendorShell extension), and
that they were fixed in some version or other.
Igor
P.S. Oh, and please try to configure your mailer not to quote raw e-mail
addresses in your replies?  They serve as food for spam harvesters.

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Brian L. Walter wrote:

> the *solution* was a cheat.  I commented out the references in startx to
> $HOME.  Since I don't have specific configurations, this is an acceptable
> white lie.
>
> The version of lesstif is 0.93.91-6.  Interestingly enough, it's -2 on the
> win98 machine, on which mwm *does* work.  I might try downgrading to -2
> (from the install packages on the win98 machine).
>
> Thanks for you patience!
>
> Regards,
> Brian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cygwin-xfree-ownercygwincom On Behalf Of Igor Pechtchanski
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:09 PM
> To: cygwin-xfreecygwincom; bwaltersdm1com
> Subject: RE: Startx on WinXP
>
> What was the problem?  What was missing in the original patch?  Please
> share your fixes with the community - that way we all benefit.
>
> AFAIK, mwm doesn't paint the contents of the windows - it only controls
> the border, cursors, and other decorations.  I doubt your problem is
> related to the paths.  What version of lesstif do you have installed
> ("cygcheck -c lesstif")?
> Igor
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Brian L. Walter wrote:
>
> > Okay, got startx to starup with out errors.  It even works great with twm.
> > However, if I switch to mwm, by just modifying startx, it starts the
> > manager, paints the windows and clock, but, does not recognize *any* input,
> > either keyboard or mouse.  Is this the same kind of issue?  And if so, based
> > on the documention I've read, which file do I look in? Everything referred
> > to in the documentation describes behavior, i.e. menus etc.  I don't see any
> > path related issues..
> >
> > Sigh..
> > TIA
> > Brian
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cygwin-xfree-ownercygwincom
> > On Behalf Of Igor Pechtchanski
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:08 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfreecygwincom; bwaltersdm1com
> > Subject: Re: Startx on WinXP
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Brian L. Walter wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > I've recently installd cygwin on both a win98 machine and a winxp
> > > machine. The win98 installs works great (except for being really slow,
> > > but that's a hardware issue.)  On the XP side, I've installed it, but
> > > getting some strange behavior.  If I do a 'startx', I get the
> > > following:
> > >
> > > [: and: unknown operand
> > > [: and: unknown operand
> > >
> > > After doing some playing around with the startx script, I've come to
> > > realize it's complaining about the bash conditional statements.  As
> > > though I'm not running under bash
> > >
> > > And as far as I can see, I am.  The fall out of this behavior is the
> > > inability to control which window manager gets started.  I can get
> > > around that by commenting out all of the conditionals in startx, but,
> > > this seems at best a temporary work around.
> > >
> > > Am I missing something in setting up/configuring cygwin to run under
> > > XP, something that is different than win98?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > > Brian L. Walter
> >
> > Brian,
> >
> > You didn't do anything wrong.  This problem is most likely due to you having
> > either HOME or TMP set to "C:\Documents and Settings\...".  The "and" in
> > "Documents and settings" is what startx complains about (since it doesn't
> > quote paths properly).
> >
> > I've posted a patch to startx a while ago that fixed this, but it looks like
> > it hasn't been incorporated in the latest release.  Since startx is just a
> > text file, you can simply apply the patch yourself from
> >  (use "patch -p0
> > < startx.patch" in /usr/X11R6/bin).
> > Igor

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RE: Startx on WinXP

[Brian L. Walter]

the *solution* was a cheat.  I commented out the references in startx to
$HOME.  Since I don't have specific configurations, this is an acceptable
white lie.

The version of lesstif is 0.93.91-6.  Interestingly enough, it's -2 on the
win98 machine, on which mwm *does* work.  I might try downgrading to -2
(from the install packages on the win98 machine).

Thanks for you patience!

Regards,
Brian

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Subject: RE: Startx on WinXP


What was the problem?  What was missing in the original patch?  Please
share your fixes with the community - that way we all benefit.

AFAIK, mwm doesn't paint the contents of the windows - it only controls
the border, cursors, and other decorations.  I doubt your problem is
related to the paths.  What version of lesstif do you have installed
("cygcheck -c lesstif")?
Igor

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Brian L. Walter wrote:

> Okay, got startx to starup with out errors.  It even works great with twm.
> However, if I switch to mwm, by just modifying startx, it starts the
> manager, paints the windows and clock, but, does not recognize *any*
input,
> either keyboard or mouse.  Is this the same kind of issue?  And if so,
based
> on the documention I've read, which file do I look in? Everything referred
> to in the documentation describes behavior, i.e. menus etc.  I don't see
any
> path related issues..
>
> Sigh..
> TIA
> Brian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Igor Pechtchanski
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Startx on WinXP
>
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Brian L. Walter wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I've recently installd cygwin on both a win98 machine and a winxp
> > machine. The win98 installs works great (except for being really slow,
> > but that's a hardware issue.)  On the XP side, I've installed it, but
> > getting some strange behavior.  If I do a 'startx', I get the
> > following:
> >
> > [: and: unknown operand
> > [: and: unknown operand
> >
> > After doing some playing around with the startx script, I've come to
> > realize it's complaining about the bash conditional statements.  As
> > though I'm not running under bash
> >
> > And as far as I can see, I am.  The fall out of this behavior is the
> > inability to control which window manager gets started.  I can get
> > around that by commenting out all of the conditionals in startx, but,
> > this seems at best a temporary work around.
> >
> > Am I missing something in setting up/configuring cygwin to run under
> > XP, something that is different than win98?
> >
> > TIA
> > Brian L. Walter
>
> Brian,
>
> You didn't do anything wrong.  This problem is most likely due to you
having
> either HOME or TMP set to "C:\Documents and Settings\...".  The "and" in
> "Documents and settings" is what startx complains about (since it doesn't
> quote paths properly).
>
> I've posted a patch to startx a while ago that fixed this, but it looks
like
> it hasn't been incorporated in the latest release.  Since startx is just a
> text file, you can simply apply the patch yourself from
>  (use "patch -p0
<
> startx.patch" in /usr/X11R6/bin).
> Igor

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RE: Startx on WinXP

[Igor Pechtchanski]

FWIW, if it was your HOME that contained "Documents and Settings", you can
"mount 'c:/Documents and Settings' /home", and refer to
"/cygdrive/c/Documents and Settings/brian" as "/home/brian"...  This is
still a band-aid, but a better one than using DOS-style paths.
Igor

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Brian L. Walter wrote:

> Well, that didn't fix it.  But you gave me somewhere to look.  I might try
> the old dos way of naming directories, i.e. with the ~.  I'll let ya know.
>
> Regards,
> Brian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Igor Pechtchanski
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Startx on WinXP
>
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Brian L. Walter wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I've recently installd cygwin on both a win98 machine and a winxp
> > machine. The win98 installs works great (except for being really slow,
> > but that's a hardware issue.)  On the XP side, I've installed it, but
> > getting some strange behavior.  If I do a 'startx', I get the
> > following:
> >
> > [: and: unknown operand
> > [: and: unknown operand
> >
> > After doing some playing around with the startx script, I've come to
> > realize it's complaining about the bash conditional statements.  As
> > though I'm not running under bash
> >
> > And as far as I can see, I am.  The fall out of this behavior is the
> > inability to control which window manager gets started.  I can get
> > around that by commenting out all of the conditionals in startx, but,
> > this seems at best a temporary work around.
> >
> > Am I missing something in setting up/configuring cygwin to run under
> > XP, something that is different than win98?
> >
> > TIA
> > Brian L. Walter
>
> Brian,
>
> You didn't do anything wrong.  This problem is most likely due to you having
> either HOME or TMP set to "C:\Documents and Settings\...".  The "and" in
> "Documents and settings" is what startx complains about (since it doesn't
> quote paths properly).
>
> I've posted a patch to startx a while ago that fixed this, but it looks like
> it hasn't been incorporated in the latest release.  Since startx is just a
> text file, you can simply apply the patch yourself from
>  (use "patch -p0 <
> startx.patch" in /usr/X11R6/bin).
> Igor
>

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RE: Startx on WinXP

[Igor Pechtchanski]

What was the problem?  What was missing in the original patch?  Please
share your fixes with the community - that way we all benefit.

AFAIK, mwm doesn't paint the contents of the windows - it only controls
the border, cursors, and other decorations.  I doubt your problem is
related to the paths.  What version of lesstif do you have installed
("cygcheck -c lesstif")?
Igor

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Brian L. Walter wrote:

> Okay, got startx to starup with out errors.  It even works great with twm.
> However, if I switch to mwm, by just modifying startx, it starts the
> manager, paints the windows and clock, but, does not recognize *any* input,
> either keyboard or mouse.  Is this the same kind of issue?  And if so, based
> on the documention I've read, which file do I look in? Everything referred
> to in the documentation describes behavior, i.e. menus etc.  I don't see any
> path related issues..
>
> Sigh..
> TIA
> Brian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Igor Pechtchanski
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Startx on WinXP
>
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Brian L. Walter wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I've recently installd cygwin on both a win98 machine and a winxp
> > machine. The win98 installs works great (except for being really slow,
> > but that's a hardware issue.)  On the XP side, I've installed it, but
> > getting some strange behavior.  If I do a 'startx', I get the
> > following:
> >
> > [: and: unknown operand
> > [: and: unknown operand
> >
> > After doing some playing around with the startx script, I've come to
> > realize it's complaining about the bash conditional statements.  As
> > though I'm not running under bash
> >
> > And as far as I can see, I am.  The fall out of this behavior is the
> > inability to control which window manager gets started.  I can get
> > around that by commenting out all of the conditionals in startx, but,
> > this seems at best a temporary work around.
> >
> > Am I missing something in setting up/configuring cygwin to run under
> > XP, something that is different than win98?
> >
> > TIA
> > Brian L. Walter
>
> Brian,
>
> You didn't do anything wrong.  This problem is most likely due to you having
> either HOME or TMP set to "C:\Documents and Settings\...".  The "and" in
> "Documents and settings" is what startx complains about (since it doesn't
> quote paths properly).
>
> I've posted a patch to startx a while ago that fixed this, but it looks like
> it hasn't been incorporated in the latest release.  Since startx is just a
> text file, you can simply apply the patch yourself from
>  (use "patch -p0 <
> startx.patch" in /usr/X11R6/bin).
> Igor

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RE: Startx on WinXP

[Brian L. Walter]

Okay, got startx to starup with out errors.  It even works great with twm.
However, if I switch to mwm, by just modifying startx, it starts the
manager, paints the windows and clock, but, does not recognize *any* input,
either keyboard or mouse.  Is this the same kind of issue?  And if so, based
on the documention I've read, which file do I look in? Everything referred
to in the documentation describes behavior, i.e. menus etc.  I don't see any
path related issues..

Sigh..
TIA
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Startx on WinXP


On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Brian L. Walter wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I've recently installd cygwin on both a win98 machine and a winxp 
> machine. The win98 installs works great (except for being really slow, 
> but that's a hardware issue.)  On the XP side, I've installed it, but 
> getting some strange behavior.  If I do a 'startx', I get the 
> following:
>
> [: and: unknown operand
> [: and: unknown operand
>
> After doing some playing around with the startx script, I've come to 
> realize it's complaining about the bash conditional statements.  As 
> though I'm not running under bash
>
> And as far as I can see, I am.  The fall out of this behavior is the 
> inability to control which window manager gets started.  I can get 
> around that by commenting out all of the conditionals in startx, but, 
> this seems at best a temporary work around.
>
> Am I missing something in setting up/configuring cygwin to run under 
> XP, something that is different than win98?
>
> TIA
> Brian L. Walter

Brian,

You didn't do anything wrong.  This problem is most likely due to you having
either HOME or TMP set to "C:\Documents and Settings\...".  The "and" in
"Documents and settings" is what startx complains about (since it doesn't
quote paths properly).

I've posted a patch to startx a while ago that fixed this, but it looks like
it hasn't been incorporated in the latest release.  Since startx is just a
text file, you can simply apply the patch yourself from
 (use "patch -p0 <
startx.patch" in /usr/X11R6/bin).
Igor
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RE: Startx on WinXP

[Brian L. Walter]

Well, that didn't fix it.  But you gave me somewhere to look.  I might try
the old dos way of naming directories, i.e. with the ~.  I'll let ya know.

Regards,
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Startx on WinXP


On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Brian L. Walter wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I've recently installd cygwin on both a win98 machine and a winxp 
> machine. The win98 installs works great (except for being really slow, 
> but that's a hardware issue.)  On the XP side, I've installed it, but 
> getting some strange behavior.  If I do a 'startx', I get the 
> following:
>
> [: and: unknown operand
> [: and: unknown operand
>
> After doing some playing around with the startx script, I've come to 
> realize it's complaining about the bash conditional statements.  As 
> though I'm not running under bash
>
> And as far as I can see, I am.  The fall out of this behavior is the 
> inability to control which window manager gets started.  I can get 
> around that by commenting out all of the conditionals in startx, but, 
> this seems at best a temporary work around.
>
> Am I missing something in setting up/configuring cygwin to run under 
> XP, something that is different than win98?
>
> TIA
> Brian L. Walter

Brian,

You didn't do anything wrong.  This problem is most likely due to you having
either HOME or TMP set to "C:\Documents and Settings\...".  The "and" in
"Documents and settings" is what startx complains about (since it doesn't
quote paths properly).

I've posted a patch to startx a while ago that fixed this, but it looks like
it hasn't been incorporated in the latest release.  Since startx is just a
text file, you can simply apply the patch yourself from
 (use "patch -p0 <
startx.patch" in /usr/X11R6/bin).
Igor
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Re: Startx on WinXP

[Brian L. Walterr]

Thanks!  That makes sense.  I'll apply/look at the patch and go from
there!

Regards,

On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 16:07, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Brian L. Walter wrote:
> 
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I've recently installd cygwin on both a win98 machine and a winxp machine.
> > The win98 installs works great (except for being really slow, but that's a
> > hardware issue.)  On the XP side, I've installed it, but getting some
> > strange behavior.  If I do a 'startx', I get the following:
> >
> > [: and: unknown operand
> > [: and: unknown operand
> >
> > After doing some playing around with the startx script, I've come to realize
> > it's complaining about the bash conditional statements.  As though I'm not
> > running under bash
> >
> > And as far as I can see, I am.  The fall out of this behavior is the
> > inability to control which window manager gets started.  I can get around
> > that by commenting out all of the conditionals in startx, but, this seems at
> > best a temporary work around.
> >
> > Am I missing something in setting up/configuring cygwin to run under XP,
> > something that is different than win98?
> >
> > TIA
> > Brian L. Walter
> 
> Brian,
> 
> You didn't do anything wrong.  This problem is most likely due to you
> having either HOME or TMP set to "C:\Documents and Settings\...".  The
> "and" in "Documents and settings" is what startx complains about (since it
> doesn't quote paths properly).
> 
> I've posted a patch to startx a while ago that fixed this, but it looks
> like it hasn't been incorporated in the latest release.  Since startx is
> just a text file, you can simply apply the patch yourself from
>  (use "patch -p0
> < startx.patch" in /usr/X11R6/bin).
>   Igor
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Re: Startx on WinXP

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Brian L. Walter wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I've recently installd cygwin on both a win98 machine and a winxp machine.
> The win98 installs works great (except for being really slow, but that's a
> hardware issue.)  On the XP side, I've installed it, but getting some
> strange behavior.  If I do a 'startx', I get the following:
>
> [: and: unknown operand
> [: and: unknown operand
>
> After doing some playing around with the startx script, I've come to realize
> it's complaining about the bash conditional statements.  As though I'm not
> running under bash
>
> And as far as I can see, I am.  The fall out of this behavior is the
> inability to control which window manager gets started.  I can get around
> that by commenting out all of the conditionals in startx, but, this seems at
> best a temporary work around.
>
> Am I missing something in setting up/configuring cygwin to run under XP,
> something that is different than win98?
>
> TIA
> Brian L. Walter

Brian,

You didn't do anything wrong.  This problem is most likely due to you
having either HOME or TMP set to "C:\Documents and Settings\...".  The
"and" in "Documents and settings" is what startx complains about (since it
doesn't quote paths properly).

I've posted a patch to startx a while ago that fixed this, but it looks
like it hasn't been incorporated in the latest release.  Since startx is
just a text file, you can simply apply the patch yourself from
 (use "patch -p0
< startx.patch" in /usr/X11R6/bin).
Igor
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Startx on WinXP

[Brian L. Walter]

Greetings,

I've recently installd cygwin on both a win98 machine and a winxp machine.
The win98 installs works great (except for being really slow, but that's a
hardware issue.)  On the XP side, I've installed it, but getting some
strange behavior.  If I do a 'startx', I get the following:

[: and: unknown operand
[: and: unknown operand

After doing some playing around with the startx script, I've come to realize
it's complaining about the bash conditional statements.  As though I'm not
running under bash

And as far as I can see, I am.  The fall out of this behavior is the
inability to control which window manager gets started.  I can get around
that by commenting out all of the conditionals in startx, but, this seems at
best a temporary work around.  

Am I missing something in setting up/configuring cygwin to run under XP,
something that is different than win98?

TIA

Brian L. Walter
Service Data Managemnet
"We treat our customers like a future depends on it"
www.sdm1.com

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Re: Any WebBrowser for Cygwin?

[Cary Jamison]

"Michael Henke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I want to do X-Forwarding with my Windowx-XP-Box and am using Cygwin
SSHd.
> SSH is working very fine so far. All i need is a browser (except
textbrowser
> like lynx!) for www.
> Is there any Webbrowser like Mozilla, Netscape or Opera available for
the
> cygwin-X-Server? Where to download and how to compile/install?

There is the web mode in Emacs.  May not have enough features for what
you're looking for.

Cary

RE: non-widget child "DropSiteManager" error (WAS: RE: Grace (xmgrace) 5.1.12-1 ... )

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Brian Ford wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Atwood, Robert C wrote:
>
> [snip]
> > Also I believe the following addition to the script would probably save
> > some people (like me) much headache ... suitably filled in where blank,
> > I don't quite get what all the different options are for.
>
> I agree.  PTC.  Please send them to cygwin-apps at cygwin dot com.
> Although, don't get your hopes up.  There has been another very useful
> patch to this script pending for a long time now, and it is not clear why
> it has not been accepted.
>
> I'm not sure who is in charge of the generic build script.  Maybe that is
> the problem.

Technically, I think everyone believes that Chuck Wilson is officially in
charge of that.  However, he did mention recently that he'd be too busy to
do anything with the script for a while...  So, here's a question for the
powers-that-be of Cygwin-apps: who can approve patches to the
generic-build-script (and the generic-readme)?  Who can commit?  Or should
we just wait for Chuck?
Igor
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Re: non-widget child "DropSiteManager" error (WAS: RE: Grace (xmgrace) 5.1.12-1 ... )

[Christopher Faylor]

On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 04:35:30PM -, Atwood, Robert C wrote:
>Well, I believe that something like 'You have to directly edit the
>.sh script in order to alter the configuration options, which
>are passed to the configure script, such as --enable-debug or
>--enable/disable-static' would/should be included there.

If you have opinions on the subject then you'd be well-advised to voice
them in the proper forum, to which Brian has already pointed you.  This
certainly isn't an issue for cygwin-xfree.

Re: Initiating a remote X session

[Benjamin Riefenstahl]

Hi Steve,

Steve Howie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Great! This works fine, but we still get the ugly ssh-style password
> prompt - just a thought, but is there anything available under
> cygwin to front end this with a username/password pop-up window?
> That'd be ideal :)

If you don't really care that much about user-level security for this,
use a public key with an empty passphrase.

The Cygwin keychain package may also be interesting for you in this
context.

benny

Re: Initiating a remote X session

[Alexander Gottwald]

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Steve Howie wrote:

> >Or even better, Use ssh:
> >
> >DISPLAY=localhost:0 ssh -X  -l  "/opt/SAS82/sas"
> >
> >ssh will take care of setting the remote DISPLAY and all transferred 
> >data is sent via the ssh tunnel.
> >  
> >
> 
> Great! This works fine, but we still get the ugly ssh-style password 
> prompt - just a thought, but is there anything available under cygwin to 
> front end this with a username/password pop-up window? That'd be ideal :)

Maybe x11-ssh-askpass may help here
http://www.jmknoble.net/software/x11-ssh-askpass/

The same for windows
http://www.ganaware.jp/S/win-ssh-askpass/

So the statup script is

#!/bin/bash
export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0
export SSH_ASKPASS="/usr/bin/win-ssh-askpass.exe"
ssh -f -X  -l username "/opt/SAS82/sas"

This should bring up a window for the password.

Unfortunatly the testing with cygwin openssh did not work properly.
I'll take a look if this is disabled with the cygwin build-

bye
ago
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Re: Initiating a remote X session

[Chris Green]

On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 10:28:58AM -0500, Steve Howie wrote:
> 
> We currently use X-Win32 which has a nifty feature for getting around 
> this - you can specify $MYIP:0 which picks up the current IP address of 
> the X-server and passes it to the session definition which is sent to 
> the host which will run the application.
> 
Another 'emigrant' from X-Win32, welcome!  :-)

I have recently changed because X-Win32 was becoming a bit expensive
for a home (sort of SoHo) user.  Cygwin seems to be just as good, and
the clipboard handling is better now.

-- 
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RE: non-widget child "DropSiteManager" error (WAS: RE: Grace (xmgrace) 5.1.12-1 ... )

[Atwood, Robert C]

Well, I believe that something like 'You have to directly edit the
.sh script in order to alter the configuration options, which
are passed to the configure script, such as --enable-debug or
--enable/disable-static' would/should be included there. 

Also since ./configure --help ususally provides information about what
options/environment variables are available or used, and the Cygwin
build script makes this step essentially opaque to the user, I feel that
the responsibility for providing this also gets transferred to the
Cygwin build script. Perhaps the 'help' function would also simply call
the configure script for the package and echo back the help options from
it.  I will see if I can do this at least  before sending a patch to the
address you mention. 

I though you meant 'what does "documentation" mean', like very
sarcastic! 

Method 2 link:
I see what you mean, and I did glance at this before -- but not in great
detail because it is mostly about how to create the package but not much
about how to use the package once it is created.
In the 'canned instructions' it only mentions using the 'all' option ,
it does not mention the sub-options such as prep, build,conf ... only
because Harold mentioned it did I get the idea that these other options
exist.  (then trying to read the script )




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Ford
Sent: 21 January 2004 16:09
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: non-widget child "DropSiteManager" error (WAS: RE: Grace
(xmgrace) 5.1.12-1 ... )


On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Atwood, Robert C wrote:
> Brian Ford wrote:
> >Robert C Atwood wrote:
> >> Is this documented somewhere?
> >>
> >What does *this* mean :^D?
> >
> :-C
> *fulmination removed*
>
> Umm ... is there a place where it says 'Here is how you build a Cygwin

> package from the source archive distributed via Cygwin setup. 1. 
> Unpack the archive 2. There will be a script called 
> .sh  3. Run this script with (one of) the followign 
> arguments: prep , build, all, (etc.) 4. Here is what each of the 
> arguments do. ... 5. this produces an archive, unpack this as 
> follows 6. anything else.
>
Sorry.  If you look at the context from your previous message, it really
was not clear whether this refered to
--[enable|disable]-[static|shared], how to build a DLL with libtool,
etc. In fact, the this you explained above was not even on my guess list
:).

Is think this is the closest this to what you are looking for:

http://cygwin.com/setup.html#package_contents

Look under "Method 2".

> Also I believe the following addition to the script would probably 
> save some people (like me) much headache ... suitably filled in where 
> blank, I don't quite get what all the different options are for.
>
I agree.  PTC.  Please send them to cygwin-apps at cygwin dot com.
Although, don't get your hopes up.  There has been another very useful
patch to this script pending for a long time now, and it is not clear
why it has not been accepted.

I'm not sure who is in charge of the generic build script.  Maybe that
is the problem.

[snip]

I have my new machine set up now, so I'll try to take a stab at
compiling it myself today.  I'll let you know how I make out.  Thanks
for being patient.

-- 
Brian Ford
Senior Realtime Software Engineer
VITAL - Visual Simulation Systems
FlightSafety International
Phone: 314-551-8460
Fax:   314-551-8444

RE: Initiating a remote X session

[Andrew Braverman]

I would also suggest ssh tunnels for what you are trying to do.  That is
what I do myself.  If you
really do not want to do that, a replacement for
MYIP=`hostname -i`  rexec  -l  "setenv DISPLAY $MYIP:0;
/opt/SAS82/sas"

might be

MYIP=`ipconfig | grep "IP Address" | awk '{print $NF}'`  rexec  -l
 "setenv DISPLAY $MYIP:0; /opt/SAS82/sas"

This assumes that there is only one network interface on the machine and the
machine has all the requisite programs installed.  I know that the Windows
9x versions had a program called winipcfg, which could not be used this way.
I am not sure if they had ipconfig in those versions and if not, when it
started.

Andy

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alexander Gottwald
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:41 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Initiating a remote X session
>
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Steve Howie wrote:
>
> > Howdy,
> >
> > We've just had a look at cygwin-xfree and are very
> impressed. However,
> > we'd like to bundle it for our users so that we have a some
> pre-defined
> > 'sessions' available e.g. connect to a Unix host, run SAS
> then have the
> > output sent to an cygwin-xfree server. Unix commands are
> not the forte
> > of most of our users.
> >
> > This is fine with a static IP address  - we would launch a
> program which
> > does something like:
> >
> > rexec  -l  "setenv DISPLAY ;
> /opt/SAS82/sas "
>
> > So ideally we would like something similar to this in cygwin-xfree :
> >
> > rexec  -l  "setenv DISPLAY $MYIP:0; /opt/SAS82/sas"
>
> First try:
> MYIP=`hostname -i`  rexec  -l  "setenv
> DISPLAY $MYIP:0; /opt/SAS82/sas"
>
> but hostname -i does not work on cygwin. But maybe the name
> of the host is
> sufficient
> MYIP=`hostname`  rexec  -l  "setenv DISPLAY
> $MYIP:0; /opt/SAS82/sas"
>
> Or even better, Use ssh:
>
> DISPLAY=localhost:0 ssh -X  -l  "/opt/SAS82/sas"
>
> ssh will take care of setting the remote DISPLAY and all transferred
> data is sent via the ssh tunnel.
>
> bye
>   ago
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>

Re: Initiating a remote X session

[Steve Howie]

Alexander Gottwald wrote:

[ .. ]
 


First try:
MYIP=`hostname -i`  rexec  -l  "setenv DISPLAY $MYIP:0; /opt/SAS82/sas"
but hostname -i does not work on cygwin. But maybe the name of the host is 
sufficient
MYIP=`hostname`  rexec  -l  "setenv DISPLAY $MYIP:0; /opt/SAS82/sas"
 

But ipconfig does ...

   $  ipconfig | grep "IP Address" | awk '{print $15}'

will get the IP address, but no idea if this would work for older 
Windoze such as W95 (yes some people still use it :))


Or even better, Use ssh:

DISPLAY=localhost:0 ssh -X  -l  "/opt/SAS82/sas"

ssh will take care of setting the remote DISPLAY and all transferred 
data is sent via the ssh tunnel.
 

Great! This works fine, but we still get the ugly ssh-style password 
prompt - just a thought, but is there anything available under cygwin to 
front end this with a username/password pop-up window? That'd be ideal :)

Thanks again for your help, Alexander

Scotty

RE: non-widget child "DropSiteManager" error (WAS: RE: Grace (xmgrace) 5.1.12-1 ... )

[Brian Ford]

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Atwood, Robert C wrote:
> Brian Ford wrote:
> >Robert C Atwood wrote:
> >> Is this documented somewhere?
> >>
> >What does *this* mean :^D?
> >
> :-C
> *fulmination removed*
>
> Umm ... is there a place where it says 'Here is how you build a Cygwin
> package from the source archive distributed via Cygwin setup. 1. Unpack
> the archive 2. There will be a script called .sh  3.
> Run this script with (one of) the followign arguments: prep , build,
> all, (etc.) 4. Here is what each of the arguments do. ... 5. this
> produces an archive, unpack this as follows 6. anything else.
>
Sorry.  If you look at the context from your previous message, it really
was not clear whether this refered to
--[enable|disable]-[static|shared], how to build a DLL with libtool, etc.
In fact, the this you explained above was not even on my guess list :).

Is think this is the closest this to what you are looking for:

http://cygwin.com/setup.html#package_contents

Look under "Method 2".

> Also I believe the following addition to the script would probably save
> some people (like me) much headache ... suitably filled in where blank,
> I don't quite get what all the different options are for.
>
I agree.  PTC.  Please send them to cygwin-apps at cygwin dot com.
Although, don't get your hopes up.  There has been another very useful
patch to this script pending for a long time now, and it is not clear why
it has not been accepted.

I'm not sure who is in charge of the generic build script.  Maybe that is
the problem.

[snip]

I have my new machine set up now, so I'll try to take a stab at compiling
it myself today.  I'll let you know how I make out.  Thanks for being
patient.

-- 
Brian Ford
Senior Realtime Software Engineer
VITAL - Visual Simulation Systems
FlightSafety International
Phone: 314-551-8460
Fax:   314-551-8444

RE: non-widget child "DropSiteManager" error (WAS: RE: Grace (xmgrace) 5.1.12-1 ... )

[Atwood, Robert C]

To ask a simple question:

When are the dll supposed to get created during the build/install
process?



*duh* okay --  I did not look in the *-announce archives. But I did see
this same text in the lesstif.README of the distribution. Maybe I did
not understand it... I interpret these points ("Port notes")  as
referring to things that Harold has already done for this version, not
something that the user has to do. Is this incorrect? It seemed to work
for Harold anyways, he has generated a package. 

>Why are you trying to build it yourself?
Obviously I must be a masochist with a need to waste time. :-D

>See the following reference for some details:
>http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2003-10/msg00401.html
Okay, that explains something.

>Did you make sure that this step from Harold's lesstif announcement 
>worked?

No, in fact I am sorry but I still don't understand what you are asking.
I do have the up-to-date build tools, as of that day that Harold posted
0.93.91-6 , unless I am completely missign something. There were no
complaints from the confiure/build script though. dlltool is installed,
the command for creating dll seems to be located in ltmain.sh , I don't
see any messages saying that it failed. I just don't get dll's

How should one 'check if (all these steps) worked'? I would expect it to
fail with certain messages if it didn't work. 

Is there any other step *necessary* besides:

1 change the script to have --enable-debug --enable-shared
--disable-static flags

2 ./lesstif-0.93.91-6.sh prep
3 ./lesstif-0.93.91-6.sh conf
4 ./lesstif-0.93.91-6.sh build
5 ./lesstif-0.93.91-6.sh install

6 then using the result in the .install directory?

 I used 
./lesstif-0.93.91-6.sh all 

the first time I tried it, with identical results (except I had to
untarbz the results, and debug was not enabled) I have not looked into
creating a setup.ini, is this where the .dll get created?

Or to ask a very uncomplicated question:

When are the dll supposed to get created in the build/install process?

Given this information I may be able to see why it is not happening on
my system. I am going to move this question to the top of this message
so maybe people will see it instead of having to read down to this
point!

Thanks, 
Robert

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Fraser
Sent: 21 January 2004 12:56
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: non-widget child "DropSiteManager" error (WAS: RE: Grace
(xmgrace) 5.1.12-1 ... )


Atwood, Robert C wrote:

>Can you tell me the date/title of the announcement? I think it was a 
>while before I started reading this list, and Harold is so active that 
>I so far could not find it in the archives.
>
>  
>
Updated: lesstif-0.93.91-6
01/16/2004 07:13 AM

>**
>
>Did you make sure that this step from Harold's lesstif announcement 
>worked?
>
>2) Make the build script run aclocal, autoconf, and automake, and make 
>the mkpatch step exclude files generated by these programs.  This makes

>the package patch readable and useful.
>
>I think you might need to include libtool in that list.  Make sure all 
>of the afore mentioned tools are up to date, and then try:
>
>autoreconf --install --force
>
>  
>

Re: Initiating a remote X session

[Alexander Gottwald]

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Steve Howie wrote:

> Howdy,
> 
> We've just had a look at cygwin-xfree and are very impressed. However, 
> we'd like to bundle it for our users so that we have a some pre-defined 
> 'sessions' available e.g. connect to a Unix host, run SAS then have the 
> output sent to an cygwin-xfree server. Unix commands are not the forte 
> of most of our users.
> 
> This is fine with a static IP address  - we would launch a program which 
> does something like:
> 
> rexec  -l  "setenv DISPLAY ; /opt/SAS82/sas "

> So ideally we would like something similar to this in cygwin-xfree :
> 
> rexec  -l  "setenv DISPLAY $MYIP:0; /opt/SAS82/sas"

First try:
MYIP=`hostname -i`  rexec  -l  "setenv DISPLAY $MYIP:0; /opt/SAS82/sas"

but hostname -i does not work on cygwin. But maybe the name of the host is 
sufficient
MYIP=`hostname`  rexec  -l  "setenv DISPLAY $MYIP:0; /opt/SAS82/sas"

Or even better, Use ssh:

DISPLAY=localhost:0 ssh -X  -l  "/opt/SAS82/sas"

ssh will take care of setting the remote DISPLAY and all transferred 
data is sent via the ssh tunnel.

bye
ago
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Initiating a remote X session

[Steve Howie]

Howdy,

We've just had a look at cygwin-xfree and are very impressed. However, 
we'd like to bundle it for our users so that we have a some pre-defined 
'sessions' available e.g. connect to a Unix host, run SAS then have the 
output sent to an cygwin-xfree server. Unix commands are not the forte 
of most of our users.

This is fine with a static IP address  - we would launch a program which 
does something like:

rexec  -l  "setenv DISPLAY ; /opt/SAS82/sas "

from the Cygwin shell. All bets are off, however, since most of our IP 
addresses are served out by DHCP.

We currently use X-Win32 which has a nifty feature for getting around 
this - you can specify $MYIP:0 which picks up the current IP address of 
the X-server and passes it to the session definition which is sent to 
the host which will run the application.

So ideally we would like something similar to this in cygwin-xfree :

rexec  -l  "setenv DISPLAY $MYIP:0; /opt/SAS82/sas"

I did a quick dig through the archives and noticed something similar to 
this question - but it was from a while ago - we'd ideally like to have 
the user get a popup prompting them for a username/password for the 
host, then pass this information via a command such as the one above, 
and also pick up the X-servers IP address whether static or dynamic. Is 
something like this available already?

Any info would be appreciated!

Thanks,

Scotty
---
Steve Howie
Academic Services, CCS
University of Guelph
Guelph Ontario
CANADA

Re: non-widget child "DropSiteManager" error (WAS: RE: Grace (xmgrace) 5.1.12-1 ... )

[David Fraser]

Atwood, Robert C wrote:

Can you tell me the date/title of the announcement? I think it was a
while before I started reading this list, and Harold is so active that I
so far could not find it in the archives.
 

Updated: lesstif-0.93.91-6
01/16/2004 07:13 AM
**

Did you make sure that this step from Harold's lesstif announcement
worked?
2) Make the build script run aclocal, autoconf, and automake, and make
the mkpatch step exclude files generated by these programs.  This makes
the package patch readable and useful.
I think you might need to include libtool in that list.  Make sure all
of the afore mentioned tools are up to date, and then try:
autoreconf --install --force

 

RE: non-widget child "DropSiteManager" error (WAS: RE: Grace (xmgrace) 5.1.12-1 ... )

[Atwood, Robert C]

Can you tell me the date/title of the announcement? I think it was a
while before I started reading this list, and Harold is so active that I
so far could not find it in the archives.


**

Did you make sure that this step from Harold's lesstif announcement
worked?

2) Make the build script run aclocal, autoconf, and automake, and make
the mkpatch step exclude files generated by these programs.  This makes
the package patch readable and useful.

I think you might need to include libtool in that list.  Make sure all
of the afore mentioned tools are up to date, and then try:

autoreconf --install --force

RE: non-widget child "DropSiteManager" error (WAS: RE: Grace (xmgrace) 5.1.12-1 ... )

[Atwood, Robert C]

> Is this documented somewhere?
>
What does *this* mean :^D?
 
:-C
*fulmination removed*

Umm ... is there a place where it says 'Here is how you build a Cygwin
package from the source archive distributed via Cygwin setup. 1. Unpack
the archive 2. There will be a script called .sh  3.
Run this script with (one of) the followign arguments: prep , build,
all, (etc.) 4. Here is what each of the arguments do. ... 5. this
produces an archive, unpack this as follows 6. anything else. 

Also I believe the following addition to the script would probably save
some people (like me) much headache ... suitably filled in where blank,
I don't quite get what all the different options are for.

# print a brief help message
help(){
   echo "Cygwin installation script $0 "
echo ""
echo " Options: "
echo "   help: Print this message. "
echo "   prep: Prepare the Cygwin patched version of the source. "
echo "   mkdirs: Make the directory heirarchy needed. ?... "
echo "   conf:   Run the configure script with suggested options for
Cygwin "
echo "   build:  Compile the package from the source code "
echo "   check:   "
echo "   clean:  Remove files produced by configuring and building "
echo "   install: "
echo "   strip:  Remove extra symbols from the compiled package "
echo "   package: "
echo "   pkg: "
echo "   mkpatch: "
echo "   src-package: "
echo "   spkg: "
echo "   finish: "
echo "   sigfile: "
echo "   checksig: "
echo "   all:"

}
# end
case $1 in
  help) help; STATUS=$?;;
  prep) prep ; STATUS=$? ;;
  mkdirs)   mkdirs; STATUS=$? ;;
  conf) conf ; STATUS=$? ;;
  build)build ; STATUS=$? ;;
  check)check ; STATUS=$? ;;
  clean)clean ; STATUS=$? ;;
  install)  install ; STATUS=$? ;;
  strip)strip ; STATUS=$? ;;
  package)  pkg ; STATUS=$? ;;
  pkg)  pkg ; STATUS=$? ;;
  mkpatch)  mkpatch ; STATUS=$? ;;
  src-package)  spkg ; STATUS=$? ;;
  spkg) name=$0 text="SCRIPT" sigfile; spkg ; STATUS=$? ;;
  finish)   finish ; STATUS=$? ;;
  sigfile)  sigfile ; STATUS=$? ;;
  checksig) checksig ; STATUS=$? ;;
  all) prep && conf && build && install && \
 strip && pkg && name=$0 text="SCRIPT" sigfile && spkg && \
 finish && echo All finished! ; \
  STATUS=$? ;;
  *) echo "Error: bad arguments" ; exit 1 ;;
esac

Re: Any WebBrowser for Cygwin?

[Dr. Volker Zell]

Hi
> "Michael" == Michael Henke writes:

Michael> I want to do X-Forwarding with my Windowx-XP-Box and am using Cygwin SSHd.
Michael> SSH is working very fine so far. All i need is a browser (except 
textbrowser
Michael> like lynx!) for www.
Michael> Is there any Webbrowser like Mozilla, Netscape or Opera available for the
Michael> cygwin-X-Server? Where to download and how to compile/install?

Try

 o http://www.dillo.org/

It builds OOTB but needs gtk.

Michael> Thanks in advance!
Michael> Michael

Ciao
  Volker

Re: Mozilla Build Problems - make attempt log included

[Gerrit P. Haase]

Hallo Igor,

Am Dienstag, 20. Januar 2004 um 17:55 schriebst du:

>> sh /home/default/mozilla/build/cygwin-wrapper -up /bin/perl

I believe that this cygwin-wrapper is broken.  I tried already to
build Mozilla on top of Cygwin and ran into problems there too, so I
decided to remove the wrapper fuzz completly, which works fine in the
first place.  However, I'm getting compilation errors later then.

> Perhaps "man cygpath" will be enlightening.

For sure, the wrapper script needs to be fixed and probably also some
defines for Cygwin in the hard coded configure and the hard coded
Makefiles need to be fixed.

I would really love to see them using the autotool chain to build
Mozilla.


Gerrit
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