Re: can't start KDE on FreeBSD from Windows XP

2004-09-07 Thread Ralf Habacker
On Tuesday 07 September 2004 10:36, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
 On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, Bruce Rhodewalt wrote:
  I'm having trouble configuring KDE on my Windows XP machine (using
  Cygwin/X 2004/03/25).
 
   From my bash shell, I can ssh or telnet to my FreeBSD 5.2.1 RELEASE
  machine.  However, if I try to connect and run KDE, I have problems.

 where do you run KDE? On the FreeBSD box or on cygwin? The log below
 say you're starting it on cygwin.

 If so then I'd pass you on to the kde-cygwin mailing list.

  iceauth:  creating new authority file /home/Bruce/.ICEauthority
  KDEINIT_KIO_EXEC
  kdeinit: Launched KLauncher, pid = 3604 result = 0
  C:\programfiles\cygwin\opt\kde3\bin\kdeinit.exe (3872): *** unable to
  remap C:\p
  rogramfiles\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll to same address as parent(0xD3) !=
  0xD4
  1105 [main] kdein   3604 sync_with_child: child 3872(0x65C) died
  before initi
  alization with status code 0x1
  1632 [main] kdein   3604 sync_with_child: *** child state child
  loading dlls

 I think this is the reason why you get no windows. But i have no clue
 what caused this error.

This is a rebasing problem. See 
http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/kde3/faq.php#rebase. 

BTW: Don't know the email address of bruce so send to the cygwin-xfree list 
too. 

Regards 

Ralf 



RE: Mac OS/X, Virtual PC 6, Oracle, and Cygwin/X - a tale

2004-09-07 Thread Thomas Chadwick
I read your email with great interest, and congratulate you on your 
perseverence and creativity in solving you VPN problem.  However, something 
occurred to me that you might want to consider.

I don't know a whole lot about Virtual PC, but if it really behaves as a 
stand-alone PC which co-exists on the same LAN as the Host PC (in this case 
the Mac), it should be entirely possible to set up a simple network route 
which routes TCP/IP traffic between the VPN endpoint (at the virtual PC 
side) over to the host Mac.  This would allow you to run Apple's X server 
instead of using Cygwin/X.  I'm willing to bet that VPN-VirtualPC(virtual 
route)-Max X-server is going to have better performance than 
VPN-VirtualPC(Cygwin/X).

I think WinME and WinXP have routing built-in (called Internet Connection 
Sharing, or ICS).  Other flavors of Windows can be setup to route using 
3rd-party freeware.

gt;From: Dr Robert Young lt;rcyoung_ta_aliconsultants_tod_comgt;
gt;Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gt;To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gt;Subject: Mac OS/X, Virtual PC 6, Oracle, and Cygwin/X - a tale
gt;Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 12:49:58 -0400
gt;
gt;Well it is possible to get cygwin/X running on Virtual PC 6.1.1
gt;under Mac OS/X 10.3. There are some  tricks (simply to make it work,
gt;and to preserve your sanity..all Windows OSs are NOT created
gt;equal), so please  bear with me while I provide some quot;colorquot; 
to my
gt;tale.
gt;
gt;Now, you may ask why anyone would want to get this combo working on
gt;a Macintosh Powerbook G4 running OS/X 10.3.5? You can get X windows
gt;for OS/X directly.
gt;
gt;However, the world is populated by Windows machines, and as a
gt;database consultant, I have to access a multitude of client sites
gt;quot;remotelyquot; since travel is not an option for a myriad of 
reasons.
gt;That means you enter the world of VPNs, which are in heavy use
gt;today, and getting more common by the minute. And the world of VPNs
gt;is dominated by Windows software ( NOT the VPN that you  get
gt;w/Windows direct from Microsoft, but the proprietary ones like
gt;Contivity, Cisco, Avaya, etc). Further VPN's do not quot;likequot; to 
be
gt;installed on the same machine as other VPN's ( these things do not
gt;quot;play wellquot; together), so if you are working with 3-4-5 
customers
gt;and all the associated VPN software is from different vendors...well
gt;you can see the problem even if you don't toss in the point that I
gt;wanted to use my Mac that I had already paid for with hard earned,
gt;cold, unadulterated CASH.
gt;
gt;That was my original motivation for getting Virtual PC...so one
gt;could use the Windows VPN software to access the client sites, by
gt;defining quot;multiplequot; virtual PCs each with their own software
gt;installed for a specific customer, and do it all from (1)
gt;laptop. AND IT WORKS!
gt;
gt;The next issue came from Oracle Corporation ( remember I make a
gt;living as a database consultant). On Unix (Sun, HP, AIX, Linux) the
gt;Oracle installer is the quot;Universal Installerquot;...ie it is  a 
java
gt;based amp; X-based. Character based telnet installs are not a real
gt;option anymore, much to the telecommuter's regret.
gt;
gt;That means I needed to come up with a means of running remote
gt;X-apps, through the client's VPN under Windows, but (in my case
gt;solely as a matter of personal preference) on a Macintosh OS/X
gt;system. There is now a version of Virtual PC for Windows letting you
gt;define multiple Win OS's on the same Intel platform ( I do, in fact,
gt;  have an older Compaq laptop ), but that means I have to by a newer
gt;Intel based laptop with more disk amp; memory amp; the Win Virtual PC
gt;software, and I didn't want to spend the $$$ there.
gt;
gt;Enough of the quot;tediousquot; background...but you do now have a 
good feel
gt;for the situation
gt;
gt;
gt;I looked at several commercial Windows X servers (since I had to use
gt;Windows based VPNs) , and all would run under Virtual PC but in true
gt;Murphy's form, each had its own quot;problemquot; with the Oracle 
Universal
gt;Installer...fonts, missing buttons, etc. The glitches were well
gt;documented around the various Oracle www sites, but no real good
gt;solutions were available unless you could get a customer to change
gt;their X client setup quot;just for youquot; ( not a point you really 
want to
gt;ask a paying customer), upgrade their Oracle site-wide ( only a few
gt;hundred thousand dollars for that one), or  you could find V6 of the
gt;'X' server software (which was now on V12..lotsa luck on that one).
gt;Then I came across cygwin/X...
gt;
gt;Now I like free software in my business, it allows me to spend more
gt;money on my hobbies. So I downloaded cygwin/X onto two different
gt;Virtual PC setups...one is Windows 2000, the other is Windows 98SE.
gt;
gt;In the case of the basic cygwin, one has to increase the environment
gt;space for storing PATH information, etc. Once that was done, cygwin
gt;would come up under 

RE: X11 becomes unresponsive. VERY unresponsive.

2004-09-07 Thread Richard Campbell
 I don't recall any reported problems with Cygwin/X per se, but there is a
 HUGE hyperthreading-related thread on the main Cygwin list -- you might do
 well to check there.  Here's an executive summary for the impatient:
 unless someone tracks down the problem and fixes it, or donates a
 hyperthreaded system that exhibits the problem to CGF, this won't get
 fixed.

You don't have to donate a whole system yourself - just send money to CGF 
through Paypal, (CGF address: me -at- cgf -dot- cx), and when/if there's enough, 
he'll get a hyperthreaded system.

-Richard Campbell.


Re: X11 becomes unresponsive. VERY unresponsive.

2004-09-07 Thread Charles E. Cooper
I've been having similar problems.
I have not rebuilt my cygwin in quite a while and haven't had these 
problems before.
any chance there's a conflict with some new patch in  Windows 2000?

I had not seen these performance problems previously, just the last few weeks.
My CPU pegs at 100% during cygwin usage, typically with starting up new 
windows.
It is close to unusable at times.

Chuck

At 10:12 AM 9/6/2004 +0200, you wrote:
On Sun, 5 Sep 2004, David Arnstein wrote:
 Hello,

 I have a problem with cygwin-x11 on my home machine, which runs
 Windows 2000 s.p. 4.

 All X11 windows become unresponsive.  Really unresponsive. The windows
 don't repaint when exposed.  Right mouse button (context) menus do not
 pop up.

 Earlier today, I reinstalled ALL of my cygwin packages, it did not help.

 Just now, I started X11 and I had one xterm running bash.  X11 was
 working OK, as far as I could tell.  I left the computer for 10
 minutes; so it was completely idle.  When I returned, X11 was in the
 unresponsive state.

 How can I debug this problem?  I close this e-mail with the contents
 of my /tmp/XWin.log file.  Is there anything else I can provide?
 Thanks for any suggestions!
There are some reasons for poor Cygwin/X performance in the FAQ. One
of them is a small program from ATI.
What about CPU usage? Is XWin taking 100% and nothing happens? Or is
it nearly idle?
bye
ago
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Re: gtk2-x11-devel is missing gdk/gdkwin32.h

2004-09-07 Thread Andrew Schulman
 | I don't know if this file has been deliberately excluded from the package
 | (version 2.4.4-1), but I needed it in order to build LablGtk2.  I had
 to go
 | and fetch it from http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/gtk+-dev-2.4.7.zip.
 
 No, it's a problem with lablgtk2.  gdk/gdkwin32.h is only for the Win32
 gdktarget; the Cygwin gtk2 packages use X11 and hence use gdk/gdkx.h.
 For some reason, lablgtk2 assumes that Cygwin uses Win32.  The attached
 patch will fix that and the install procedure.

OK, thanks.  For now I was able to build lablgtk using gdk/gdkwin32.h, 
so since it works I'll just leave it at that.  But I'm filing your patch 
in case I have to build lablgtk again.

Andrew.



Re: X11 becomes unresponsive. VERY unresponsive.

2004-09-07 Thread Jack Tanner
I've also been having similar problems. Unresponsiveness on my end isn't 
as atrocious (I get delays in single seconds, mostly).

For a test case, see my post ssh slowdowns under X.


Re: can't start KDE on FreeBSD from Windows XP

2004-09-07 Thread Bruce Rhodewalt
Thanks a lot to you both.  I have installed rebase, but the syntax is 
actually different from what you describe.  With and without a parameter 
on the command line, I get usage errors:

$ rebase
usage: rebase -b BaseAddress [-Vdv] [-o Offset] [-T FileList | -] Files...
$ rebase cygz.dll
usage: rebase -b BaseAddress [-Vdv] [-o Offset] [-T FileList | -] Files...
$ rebase -v c:\programfiles\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll
usage: rebase -b BaseAddress [-Vdv] [-o Offset] [-T FileList | -] Files...
My version:
$ rebase -V
rebase version 2.3 (imagehelper version 0.7)
Copyright (c) 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 Ralf Habacker and Jason Tishler
Bruce


Ralf Habacker wrote:
On Tuesday 07 September 2004 10:36, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, Bruce Rhodewalt wrote:
I'm having trouble configuring KDE on my Windows XP machine (using
Cygwin/X 2004/03/25).
From my bash shell, I can ssh or telnet to my FreeBSD 5.2.1 RELEASE
machine.  However, if I try to connect and run KDE, I have problems.
where do you run KDE? On the FreeBSD box or on cygwin? The log below
say you're starting it on cygwin.
If so then I'd pass you on to the kde-cygwin mailing list.

iceauth:  creating new authority file /home/Bruce/.ICEauthority
KDEINIT_KIO_EXEC
kdeinit: Launched KLauncher, pid = 3604 result = 0
C:\programfiles\cygwin\opt\kde3\bin\kdeinit.exe (3872): *** unable to
remap C:\p
rogramfiles\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll to same address as parent(0xD3) !=
0xD4
   1105 [main] kdein   3604 sync_with_child: child 3872(0x65C) died
before initi
alization with status code 0x1
   1632 [main] kdein   3604 sync_with_child: *** child state child
loading dlls
I think this is the reason why you get no windows. But i have no clue
what caused this error.
This is a rebasing problem. See 
http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/kde3/faq.php#rebase. 

BTW: Don't know the email address of bruce so send to the cygwin-xfree list 
too. 

Regards 

Ralf 





multiwindow doesn't work

2004-09-07 Thread Jim Scheef
I'm reposting. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Jim

--- Jim Scheef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:41:10 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Jim Scheef [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: multiwindow doesn't work
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Alexander,
 
 Thanks for the prompt reply, but this used to work and I can't minimize the
 desktop window because it is frameless. Worse, the desktop remains on top
 and
 hides all Windows apps. The syntax startx -multiwindow  comes from the
 KDE
 web site and clearly indicates that the desktop is not to appear, so
 something is wrong.
 
 What causes the message: ERROR: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)?
 This
 message is also displayed when I start any KDE apps, like kwrite.
 
 Thanks,
 Jim
 
 --- Alexander Gottwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Jim Scheef wrote:
  
   Hello.
  
   Ever since CygwinX switched X server source (or whatever changed), I
 have
  not
   been able to make -multiwindow work on my machine running XP SP1. KDE 3
  is
   installed as the desktop. When I start using startx -multiwindow ,
   everything seems to start up correctly - the splash screen is displayed
  in a
   Windows window, the round plays and then the root window appears and
   initializes in frameless mode.
  
  KDE has it's own root (or better desktop) window. This is just a simple
  window
  and Xwin can do nothing to hide it.
  
  Other KDE application will be displayed as simple windows and you could
  minimize
  the destop window and have the others still present.
  
  bye
  ago
  NP: Accessory - I say go (Hocico Mix)
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