[chris@areti.co.uk: Re: Keyboard auto-repeat defaults when using 'xwin -query host']

2003-12-31 Thread Chris Green
Did my reply below get lost in the Christmas rush somewhere?

I still have this autorepeat proplem though using an explicit xset
command in my startup is OK as a workaround.

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Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 14:03:33 +
From: Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Keyboard auto-repeat defaults when using 'xwin -query host'
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On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 06:41:14PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
 Chris,
 
 Chris Green wrote:
 The problem is that when I connect using cygwin/xfree the auto-repeat
 is set to silly values, if I do an 'xset -q' I get:-
 
 auto repeat:  onkey click persent:   0LED mask:  00
 auto repeat delay:  100repeat rate:  10
 
 
 That auto repeat delay is much too short.
 
Thanks for the response and for treating me gently, I'm just feeling
my way in cygwin/X although I have been using Unix/Linux for many
years (since the early 1980s in fact).


 When running locally, I get:
 
 Keyboard Control:
   auto repeat:  onkey click percent:  0LED mask:  
   auto repeat delay:  500repeat rate:  31
   auto repeating keys:  00ffdbbf
 fadfffdffdff
 
 
   bell percent:  50bell pitch:  400bell duration:  100
 
Just about exactly what I get except for the auto repeat delay values
which I reported above.


 When logged into a remote machine via -query I get exactly the same 
 values.  I do not have an XF86Config file, and I am not passing any of 
 the following command-line parameters to XWin.exe:
 
 ==
 The X Keyboard Extension adds the following arguments:
 -kbdisable the X Keyboard Extension
 +kbenable the X Keyboard Extension
 [+-]accessx [ timeout [ timeout_mask [ feedback [ options_mask] ] ] ]
enable/disable accessx key sequences
 -ar1   set XKB autorepeat delay
 -ar2   set XKB autorepeat interval
 
 [...]
 
 -xf86config
   Specify a configuration file.
 ==
 
I'm running using a copy of startxwin.bat with the XWIn start line set
to start XWin -query server.  I have no XF86Config either.


 My /tmp/XWin.log file has the following:
 
 ==
 (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0409 (0409)
 (EE) No primary keyboard configured
 (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard
 Rules = xfree86 Model = pc101 Layout = us Variant = (null) 
 Options = (null)
 ==
 
 Could you please confirm that you are not passing any additional args to 
 XWin.exe, then send in your XWin.log files from both a local session and 
 from a session when you use -query to connect to a remote machine?  That 
 should help us to investigate the problem.
 
The remote XWin.log file is:-

ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1600 h 1200
winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
InitOutput - Error reading config file
winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 001f
InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1600 h: 1200
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1600 h: 1200
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 33 0 1200 1600
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 33 0 1200 1600
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1594 h 1137 r 1594 l 0 b 1137 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Creating primary surface
winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Created primary surface
winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Attached clipper to primary surface
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 3188
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow pitch: 3188
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow stride: 1594
winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: f800 07e0 001f
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks f800 07e0 001f BPRGB 6 d 16 bpp 16
winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winFinishScreenInitFB - returning
winScreenInit - returning
InitOutput

Re: Keyboard auto-repeat defaults when using 'xwin -query host'

2003-12-31 Thread Alexander Gottwald
Chris Green wrote:

 I still have this autorepeat proplem though using an explicit xset
 command in my startup is OK as a workaround.

 (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0809 (0809)
 (--) Using preset keyboard for English (United Kingdom) (809), type 4

You see, the server sets the autorepeat to useful values. I'm quite sure
there is another program in the startup scripts which sets the autorepeat
settings to the strange value.

Maybe this is not xset but the the windowmanager (kde, gnome) itself. Please
check the settings of the windowmanager if there is a strange autorepeat
setting.

bye
ago

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Re: Keyboard auto-repeat defaults when using 'xwin -query host'

2003-12-27 Thread Chris Green
On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 06:41:14PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
 Chris,
 
 Chris Green wrote:
 The problem is that when I connect using cygwin/xfree the auto-repeat
 is set to silly values, if I do an 'xset -q' I get:-
 
 auto repeat:  onkey click persent:   0LED mask:  00
 auto repeat delay:  100repeat rate:  10
 
 
 That auto repeat delay is much too short.
 
Thanks for the response and for treating me gently, I'm just feeling
my way in cygwin/X although I have been using Unix/Linux for many
years (since the early 1980s in fact).


 When running locally, I get:
 
 Keyboard Control:
   auto repeat:  onkey click percent:  0LED mask:  
   auto repeat delay:  500repeat rate:  31
   auto repeating keys:  00ffdbbf
 fadfffdffdff
 
 
   bell percent:  50bell pitch:  400bell duration:  100
 
Just about exactly what I get except for the auto repeat delay values
which I reported above.


 When logged into a remote machine via -query I get exactly the same 
 values.  I do not have an XF86Config file, and I am not passing any of 
 the following command-line parameters to XWin.exe:
 
 ==
 The X Keyboard Extension adds the following arguments:
 -kbdisable the X Keyboard Extension
 +kbenable the X Keyboard Extension
 [+-]accessx [ timeout [ timeout_mask [ feedback [ options_mask] ] ] ]
enable/disable accessx key sequences
 -ar1   set XKB autorepeat delay
 -ar2   set XKB autorepeat interval
 
 [...]
 
 -xf86config
   Specify a configuration file.
 ==
 
I'm running using a copy of startxwin.bat with the XWIn start line set
to start XWin -query server.  I have no XF86Config either.


 My /tmp/XWin.log file has the following:
 
 ==
 (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0409 (0409)
 (EE) No primary keyboard configured
 (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard
 Rules = xfree86 Model = pc101 Layout = us Variant = (null) 
 Options = (null)
 ==
 
 Could you please confirm that you are not passing any additional args to 
 XWin.exe, then send in your XWin.log files from both a local session and 
 from a session when you use -query to connect to a remote machine?  That 
 should help us to investigate the problem.
 
The remote XWin.log file is:-

ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1600 h 1200
winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
InitOutput - Error reading config file
winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 001f
InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1600 h: 1200
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1600 h: 1200
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 33 0 1200 1600
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 33 0 1200 1600
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1594 h 1137 r 1594 l 0 b 1137 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Creating primary surface
winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Created primary surface
winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Attached clipper to primary surface
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 3188
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow pitch: 3188
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow stride: 1594
winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: f800 07e0 001f
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks f800 07e0 001f BPRGB 6 d 16 bpp 16
winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winFinishScreenInitFB - returning
winScreenInit - returning
InitOutput - Returning.
MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support
XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared 
memory support in the kernel
(--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
(--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0809 (0809) 
(--) Using preset keyboard for English (United Kingdom) (809), type 4
(EE) No primary keyboard configured
(==) Using compiletime defaults for 

Re: Keyboard auto-repeat defaults when using 'xwin -query host'

2003-12-27 Thread Alexander Gottwald
Chris Green wrote:

 I have a odd problem with the keyboard auto-repeat setup.

 I have two verions of cygwin/xfree installed on two different win2k
 computers and the problem is the same on both.  One has the latest
 cygwin/xfree (just downloaded) and the other has a version from a
 few months ago.

 I have searched through the mailing list archive and see that a
 similar problem has been reported before but it isn't exactly the same
 and I don't see how to fix the problem anyway.

 I am connecting from both these win2k systems uisng 'xwin -query
 server' to a linux Slackware 9.1 system on my local (home) network.
 I have also got another X server available to me, X-Win32 but I'd
 prefer to use cygwin as it's free and otherwise I keep having to pay
 for upgrades to X-Win32.

 The problem is that when I connect using cygwin/xfree the auto-repeat
 is set to silly values, if I do an 'xset -q' I get:-

 auto repeat:  onkey click persent:   0LED mask:  00
 auto repeat delay:  100repeat rate:  10
 

 That auto repeat delay is much too short.

XWin tries to set the repeat rate to something similar to the windows
repeat rate. This is noted in the configfile.

Maybe the session scripts of the linux host set the repeat rate to a bogus
value.

You can verify this by starting xwin without the query paramter and run
DISPLAY=:0.0 xset -q from windows. This should print the default setting.

bye
ago

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Re: Keyboard auto-repeat defaults when using 'xwin -query host'

2003-12-27 Thread Chris Green
On Sat, Dec 27, 2003 at 02:31:58PM +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
 Chris Green wrote:
 
  auto repeat delay:  100repeat rate:  10
  
 
  That auto repeat delay is much too short.
 
 XWin tries to set the repeat rate to something similar to the windows
 repeat rate. This is noted in the configfile.
 
 Maybe the session scripts of the linux host set the repeat rate to a bogus
 value.
 
But the problem only occurs when I connect to the remote system using
cygwin's xwin, when I use my commercial X-Win32 X server I get the
default keyboard set-up that I expect.


 You can verify this by starting xwin without the query paramter and run
 DISPLAY=:0.0 xset -q from windows. This should print the default setting.
 
No. locally I appear to get the same problem too.

-- 
Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


Keyboard auto-repeat defaults when using 'xwin -query host'

2003-12-26 Thread Chris Green
I have a odd problem with the keyboard auto-repeat setup.

I have two verions of cygwin/xfree installed on two different win2k
computers and the problem is the same on both.  One has the latest
cygwin/xfree (just downloaded) and the other has a version from a
few months ago.

I have searched through the mailing list archive and see that a
similar problem has been reported before but it isn't exactly the same
and I don't see how to fix the problem anyway.

I am connecting from both these win2k systems uisng 'xwin -query
server' to a linux Slackware 9.1 system on my local (home) network.
I have also got another X server available to me, X-Win32 but I'd
prefer to use cygwin as it's free and otherwise I keep having to pay
for upgrades to X-Win32.

The problem is that when I connect using cygwin/xfree the auto-repeat
is set to silly values, if I do an 'xset -q' I get:-

auto repeat:  onkey click persent:   0LED mask:  00
auto repeat delay:  100repeat rate:  10


That auto repeat delay is much too short.



On the other hand when I connect using X-Win32 I get:-

auto repeat:  onkey click persent:   0LED mask:  00


with no 'auto repeat delay' value at all, i.e. X-Win32 doesn't seem to
have attempted to set the auto repeat delay or repeat rate at all and
thus I'm left with the existing keyboard settings which are fine.


It would appear that cygwin/xfree *is* setting the auto repeat delay
and speed whereas X-Win32 isn't.  If it is setting these where are the
default values?  If it isn't then what is going on?

I know I can fix it by using 'xset' but this seems a bit of a bodge,
I'd rather do it properly.

-- 
Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


Re: Keyboard auto-repeat defaults when using 'xwin -query host'

2003-12-26 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Chris,

Chris Green wrote:
The problem is that when I connect using cygwin/xfree the auto-repeat
is set to silly values, if I do an 'xset -q' I get:-
auto repeat:  onkey click persent:   0LED mask:  00
auto repeat delay:  100repeat rate:  10

That auto repeat delay is much too short.
When running locally, I get:

Keyboard Control:
  auto repeat:  onkey click percent:  0LED mask:  
  auto repeat delay:  500repeat rate:  31
  auto repeating keys:  00ffdbbf
fadfffdffdff


  bell percent:  50bell pitch:  400bell duration:  100
When logged into a remote machine via -query I get exactly the same 
values.  I do not have an XF86Config file, and I am not passing any of 
the following command-line parameters to XWin.exe:

==
The X Keyboard Extension adds the following arguments:
-kbdisable the X Keyboard Extension
+kbenable the X Keyboard Extension
[+-]accessx [ timeout [ timeout_mask [ feedback [ options_mask] ] ] ]
   enable/disable accessx key sequences
-ar1   set XKB autorepeat delay
-ar2   set XKB autorepeat interval
[...]

-xf86config
Specify a configuration file.
==
My /tmp/XWin.log file has the following:

==
(--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
(--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0409 (0409)
(EE) No primary keyboard configured
(==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard
Rules = xfree86 Model = pc101 Layout = us Variant = (null) 
Options = (null)
==

Could you please confirm that you are not passing any additional args to 
XWin.exe, then send in your XWin.log files from both a local session and 
from a session when you use -query to connect to a remote machine?  That 
should help us to investigate the problem.

Harold