Re: X on win 7
Daniel Bienstock wrote: Hello, I have a new Dell Dimension M6600 with Windows 7 SP 1. I have disabled the Windows firewall and added rules to allow programs in cygwin and cygwin\bin to run. I am using cygwin 1.7.9 (I also use older cygwins on many 32-bit Windows machines). On this machine, X runs badly: often very slowly, and frequently with crashes as well. A couple of times I was forced to reboot the machine -- Windows appeared unresponsive. I did try rebaseall, but did not help (in fact had to reinstall cygwin). I have seen some posts on this topic, but no definitive workaround. --- This may be entire unhelpful, but is mentioned as a datapoint only, I have X on Win7 working with cygwin 1.4.2-1 and xorg-server 1.8.0-1 xorg-server-dmx 1.8.0-.1 (and lots of other packages from that era I tried upgrading to latest, and nothing worked. No bash, No X, -- rebase died didn't solve anything .. I reverted as didn't have the time to track down all the problems of such a large update. I'd like to try updating packages 1-by-1, but that's not easily supported through setup (it selects all, and there's no way to unselect the 100+ updates except by repetitious mouse clicks (keyboard accel's didn't function). My wrists warned me to quit. Dunno wazzup w/newer versions as I'm sure many use them with no difficulties, BUT, the version I have now works with what I currently have installed (BLODA, though I don't think I have anything that falls into that category, given it's precise definition, it's hard to tell from day-to-day). So things keep changing in both Win7, and cygwin, (and my server, that I upgraded to a changed samba(3.6) hasn't done me any favors in tracking down all my little nuisances Note, it's generally the cyg-support way to blame things on the user or tell them they can use the source and fix it themselves. Tried that 3 times, insufficiently documented and/or included too many assumptions about user's environment for me to replicate. (Doesn't mean I won't try again some day, but fixing my samba server handing out Domain GUID's is higher prio -- as is writing my script to create auto-snap-shots of my home-dir on linux with LSM and rsynch that are mounted w/samba so as to show up as previous versions of changed files (and of course, those tasks are always getting interrupted as well... nested so damn deep, I've my overflow counter has wrapped. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Re: X on win 7
Hi Daniel, On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Daniel Bienstock wrote: The Windows Task Manager shows a huge list of services running, like Application Experience, which could be interfering. But I have no idea which are safe to turn off. I can send in a jpeg with that list, if that was helpful (and if the site accepts jpge attachments) If you can, download Process Explorer from Sysinternals (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653). That one allows you to save a list of processes to a text file (File-Save) Csaba -- GCS a+ e++ d- C++ ULS$ L+$ !E- W++ P+++$ w++$ tv+ b++ DI D++ 5++ The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers. Life is complex, with real and imaginary parts. Ok, it boots. Which means it must be bug-free and perfect. -- Linus Torvalds People disagree with me. I just ignore them. -- Linus Torvalds -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Re: X on win 7
ok, here's the list generated by process explorer: Process PID CPU Private Bytes Working Set Description Company Name System Idle Process 0 96.68 0 K 24 K System 4 0.22152 K 3,940 K Interrupts n/a 0.39 0 K 0 K Hardware Interrupts and DPCs smss.exe 348 744 K 1,400 K csrss.exe 464 2,632 K 4,736 K conhost.exe15961,460 K 3,048 K wininit.exe 520 2,080 K 4,844 K services.exe 584 5,904 K 9,592 K svchost.exe 716 5,816 K 10,888 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation unsecapp.exe 24722,464 K 5,728 K WmiPrvSE.exe 259615,172 K22,024 K WmiPrvSE.exe 29327,100 K 12,444 K unsecapp.exe 2228 2,868 K 6,348 K Sink to receive asynchronous callbacks for WMI client application Microsoft Corporation svchost.exe 828 5,180 K 8,880 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation atiesrxx.exe 912 2,344 K 4,940 K AMD External Events Service Module AMD atieclxx.exe 14483,580 K 7,464 K svchost.exe 956 19,808 K 20,136 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation audiodg.exe 160 17,168 K16,852 K svchost.exe 1004 12,780 K 21,020 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation WUDFHost.exe 12242,272 K 5,360 K wlanext.exe 158810,928 K18,932 K dwm.exe 3324 0.38 32,176 K 30,088 K Desktop Window Manager Microsoft Corporation WUDFHost.exe 936 2,624 K 6,704 K svchost.exe 136 0.01 39,028 K 47,336 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation wuauclt.exe 4672 0.11 4,044 K 10,440 K Windows Update Microsoft Corporation stacsv64.exe 380 0.01 7,080 K 7,548 K IDT PC AudioIDT, Inc. svchost.exe 1120 7,036 K 11,524 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation svchost.exe 1340 0.01 25,532 K 29,080 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation EvtEng.exe 1416 13,452 K 21,140 K Intel(R) PROSet/Wireless Event Log Service Intel(R) Corporation ZCfgSvc7.exe 1580 10,552 K 17,744 K Intel(R) PROSet/Wireless Zero Config Service Intel(R) Corporation spoolsv.exe 1736 8,004 K 13,076 K Spooler SubSystem App Microsoft Corporation HostControlService.exe 1772 3,448 K 5,556 K Host Control Application Broadcom Corporation HostStorageService.exe 1812 2,524 K 4,932 K Host Storage Application Broadcom Corporation svchost.exe 1880 6,276 K 11,256 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation svchost.exe 1940 0.01 13,032 K 14,964 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation TdmService.exe 1964 4,788 K 11,372 K TDM Service Wave Systems Corp. AESTSr64.exe 1664 1,904 K 3,468 K Andrea filters APO access service (64-bit) Andrea Electronics Corporation DCPSysMgrSvc.exe 1904 4,376 K 11,144 K Dell - System Manager Service Dell Inc. IPROSetMonitor.exe 1888 2,272 K 4,812 K Intel® PROSet Monitoring Service Intel Corporation jhi_service.exe 2088 1,412 K 4,380 K Intel IPT Host Interface Service Intel Corporation o2flash.exe 2192 1,136 K 3,472 K O2 Flash Memory Service O2Micro International srvany.exe2240960 K 3,088 K SDIOAssist.exe 2272 0.01 2,704 K 5,240 K RegSrvc.exe 2304 3,248 K 7,280 K Intel(R) PROSet/Wireless Registry Service Intel(R) Corporation SeaPort.exe 2328 4,680 K 8,136 K Microsoft SeaPort Search Enhancement Broker Microsoft Corporation WLIDSVC.EXE 24246,164 K 12,460 K WLIDSVCM.EXE 26522,116 K 4,000 K SearchIndexer.exe 2788 0.01 36,708 K 22,396 K Microsoft Windows Search Indexer Microsoft Corporation SearchFilterHost.exe 45804,000 K 7,572 K SearchProtocolHost.exe 4616 0.01 4,624 K 9,056 K taskhost.exe 3196 3,900 K 6,920 K Host Process for Windows Tasks Microsoft Corporation IAStorDataMgrSvc.exe 3776 0.01 20,756 K 16,044 K IAStorDataSvc Intel Corporation LMS.exe 4052 0.01 3,308 K 5,756 K Local Manageability Service Intel Corporation sppsvc.exe 2872 3,076 K 8,476 K Microsoft Software Protection Platform Service Microsoft Corporation UNS.exe 568 0.01 7,596 K 13,168 K User Notification Service Intel Corporation TrustedInstaller.exe 4152 19,008 K 26,180 K Windows Modules Installer Microsoft Corporation VSSVC.exe 4212 11,156 K 16,636 K Microsoft® Volume Shadow Copy Service Microsoft Corporation svchost.exe 4244 2,184 K 5,532 K Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation lsass.exe 600 6,968 K 14,204 K Local Security Authority Process Microsoft Corporation lsm.exe608 3,212 K 4,852 K csrss.exe 540 0.203,180 K 6,092 K conhost.exe 2108 2,364 K 5,348 K Console Window Host Microsoft Corporation conhost.exe 4508 4,176 K 7,696 K Console Window Host Microsoft Corporation winlogon.exe808
X on win 7
Hello, I have a new Dell Dimension M6600 with Windows 7 SP 1. I have disabled the Windows firewall and added rules to allow programs in cygwin and cygwin\bin to run. I am using cygwin 1.7.9 (I also use older cygwins on many 32-bit Windows machines). On this machine, X runs badly: often very slowly, and frequently with crashes as well. A couple of times I was forced to reboot the machine -- Windows appeared unresponsive. I did try rebaseall, but did not help (in fact had to reinstall cygwin). I have seen some posts on this topic, but no definitive workaround. Any help welcome. Daniel Bienstock -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: X on win 7
On 7/7/2011 10:24 AM, Daniel Bienstock wrote: Hello, I have a new Dell Dimension M6600 with Windows 7 SP 1. I have disabled the Windows firewall and added rules to allow programs in cygwin and cygwin\bin to run. I am using cygwin 1.7.9 (I also use older cygwins on many 32-bit Windows machines). On this machine, X runs badly: often very slowly, and frequently with crashes as well. A couple of times I was forced to reboot the machine -- Windows appeared unresponsive. I did try rebaseall, but did not help (in fact had to reinstall cygwin). I have seen some posts on this topic, but no definitive workaround. Sounds like a case of BLODA to me. http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.using.html#faq.using.bloda -- Larry _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Re: X on win 7
On 7/7/2011 10:24 AM, Daniel Bienstock wrote: | Sounds like a case of BLODA to me. | | http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.using.html#faq.using.bloda I looked at the BLODA list, and I don't believe I have any of *those* programs running on my machine. Is there a way I can identify the culprit? Thanks in advance. Dan -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Re: X on win 7
On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 21:13 -0400, Daniel Bienstock wrote: On 7/7/2011 10:24 AM, Daniel Bienstock wrote: | Sounds like a case of BLODA to me. | | http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.using.html#faq.using.bloda I looked at the BLODA list, and I don't believe I have any of *those* programs running on my machine. Is there a way I can identify the culprit? Thanks in advance. Windows Defender, a default component of Win7, is BLODA, so I'd start by permanently disabling the WinDefend service. (We should probably note that in BLODA itself.) Yaakov Cygwin/X -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Re: X on win 7
Turned off WinDefend, but problem continues. The Windows Task Manager shows a huge list of services running, like Application Experience, which could be interfering. But I have no idea which are safe to turn off. I can send in a jpeg with that list, if that was helpful (and if the site accepts jpge attachments) -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
