Re: Republican Leadership's dot.gov Scam?

2000-04-09 Thread Tim May

At 12:16 PM -0400 4/8/00, John Young wrote:


We've got a global campaign going to get all the world's
government agencies to use machines identified as such
when using the Web for official business, and to cut out the
sneaky use of one-way eyeshade. In the US the NSA and FBI
are the guiltiest of not showing their badges when stinging and
zinging their source of legitimacy.


Who is the "we" in this "We've got a global campaign going..."?

It is hopelessly naive to think that passing more unenforceable laws 
to allegedly force secret policemen to somehow show their identities 
is possible. It may make the sheeple more complacent.

Passing laws to tell secret policemen to reveal themselves. I'm sure 
the modern instantiations of Shin Bet, Savaak, the Staasi, the NKVD, 
and the numerous police state agencies in the Beknighted States are 
quaking in their jack boots.

The only real fixes are to use technology to make the secret 
policeman's job impossible and to use standard freedom fighting 
techniques to attack them in their lairs and deal with them en masse. 
The Final Solution, as it were.

Finally, can we please do something about this ridiculous 
cross-posting to so many groups? This message will be rejected by 
half of these private fiefdom mailing lists--they get to spam 
Cypherpunks but the Cypherpunks can't spam them back.

(Which makes me happy that several of them are apparently 
headquartered inside the blast radius around Washington, and downwind 
of the Sarin gas to boot. Where's Abu Nidal when we really need him?)

--Tim May
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Re: Republican Leadership's dot.gov Scam?

2000-04-09 Thread John Young

"We" is .gov victims. Who aren't going to take it anymore.
We are going to assure that governments do the right thing, 
wither away. Enough is enough. We are certain that if good 
people insist on government wither that will make it happen. 

We are not naive. We know that government works hard to 
prevent wither, and intelligence and police agencies are
its main defenders against witherers.

Government does not wither willingly. It must be reminded 
every generation to do so. Then it will. Once its defenders
get better jobs in .com.

Are we naive about withering .com? No, for if we can wither
.gov milk, .com will starve.





Republican Leadership's dot.gov Scam?

2000-04-08 Thread Matthew Gaylor

[Note from Matthew Gaylor:  It seems that the US House of 
Representatives, Republican leadership conference has established 
http://www.gop.gov/.  A misuse of the domain name system which gives 
the impression of official .gov sanction when the site is really just 
a politics as usual, partisan site. To be fair the Republicans claim 
that their site is in Beta and that it is an official site due to 
their Congressional status.  I find much of this idea rather 
offensive and unfair to Independents and third parties who will not 
be afforded the opportunity to hide partisanship under a mask of 
legitimacy.  Of special note is the use of a private ISP Capital Area 
Internet Service (CAIS-DOM) to host the site.  Is this to bypass the 
congressional system and if so why?]

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:10:41 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Farber), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Gaylor),
 State and Local Freedom of Information Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Jim Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: fwd: www.gop.gov  ??!!!

I just received this from a friend.

Did you see that the Republican Party has established the domain
www.gop.gov?  I'm very surprised that a partisan group could have a .gov
domain.  I was also very disturbed by the fact that I couldn't get into
the site without accepting all the cookies that were being set.  Looks
like a bad precedent to me on both counts.


1.  I wonder if this is really a Republican Party website -- as it's name
certainly implies?  The InterNIC Finger gives no listing for it.

[Note from Matt Gov't sites need to looked up on www.nic.gov]

2.  I completely agree with the writer:  Who the hell is granting dot-GOV
status to a @#$%^ political party?!

3.  And if they're going to give ".GOV" status to the Republicrats (and,
presumably, the Demopublicans), will they also give it to the Libbies, and
the Peace  Freedom ... and the Flat Earth Party, and the 4th Reich, et
al?!  Maybe this is the first step to making dog-GOV meaningless as a
top-level domain.

4.  When I attempted to go to it's home-page, I too, found that it tried to
set two cookies -- which I refused.  Then it promptly died saying, "No
Cookie! To access this site your browser must be accepting cookies."

5.  Pretty damned arrogant no matter who's running it -- but especially if
it really is the Repub Party.  (The Party of the People?  Apparently not
unless the People let the Party set tracking/surveillance cookies ... and
gawd knows what else!)

--jim, Jim Warren; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Contributing Editor  technology public-policy columnist, MicroTimes Magazine
Also GovAccess list-owner/editor; 345 Swett Rd, Woodside CA 94062
   voice/650-851-7075; fax-for-the-quaint/650-851-2814

[self-inflating puff: Hugh Hefner First-Amendment Award, Playboy Foundation;
Electronic Frontier Foundation Pioneer Award (in its first year);
James Madison Freedom-of-Information Award, Soc.of Prof.Journalists-Nor.Calif
founded InfoWorld; the Computers, Freedom  Privacy Conferences; etc etc etc.]

And...

From: Jim Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  Re: fwd: www.gop.gov  ??!!!
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ahah!  The plot thickens.

On the one hand, www.gop.gov -- by its dot-GOV domain-name -- pretends to
be an official government site.  And from what those who've accepted its
cookies say, it *says* it's an official site of an official caucus within
the official House of the official Congress.

However ... curiously, it appears that -- in spite of it's dot-GOV name --
it's being run as a private operation through a private ISP, and definitely
*not* through any official congressional system!  See the following, that
just came in from a net-geek friend.

--jim


A "WHOIS" on gop.gov didn't turn up anything at networksolutions
but I did find that the domain is hosted at Capital Area Internet
Service in McLean...

Capital Area Internet Service (CAIS-DOM)
6861 Elm Street, Third Floor
McLean, VA 22101
US

Domain Name: CAIS.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
   Network Operations Center  (CAIS-NOC)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   CAIS Internet
   1255 22nd Street
   Washington, DC 20037
   US

   (202) 715-1300 -- NOC (703) 448-2091 Fax- - (703) 790-8805
Billing Contact:
   Billing Office  (BO-ORG)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   CAIS Internet
   6861 Elm Street, Third Floor
   McLean, VA 22101
   US


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