Re: Intercept's Micah Lee Tips Clinton On How To Maintain Corruption and Secrecy

[oshwm]

Micah Lee is a cunt who thinks throwing website visitors under the Cloudflare 
bus is an acceptable thing to do.
I personally wouldn't trust him with anything privacy or freedom related.

oshwm.

On 15 October 2016 04:22:36 GMT+01:00, grarpamp  wrote:
>This is grand...
>
>https://theintercept.com/2016/10/13/on-wikileaks-journalism-and-privacy-reportin
>g-on-the-podesta-archive-is-an-easy-call/
>"The more public power someone has, the less privacy they are
>entitled to claim" -- Glenn Greenwald
>
>So then why are your editorial subordinates helping and kissing ass
>to these same power politicians, and stopping up the very flow of
>leaks they depend on as journalists? There's not a shred of new
>reporting in this, just pure boot licking
>
>https://theintercept.com/2016/10/13/dear-clinton-team-we-noticed-you-might-need-
>some-email-security-tips/
>
>"So as a public service to Podesta and everyone else on Clinton's
>staff, here are some email security tips... (passwords, phishing,
>encryption, other apps / networks)."
>
>
>Stick to reporting, and leave the dirty non public service of
>consulting the political critters you report on... out of it.

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Intercept's Micah Lee Tips Clinton On How To Maintain Corruption and Secrecy

[grarpamp]

This is grand...

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/13/on-wikileaks-journalism-and-privacy-reportin
g-on-the-podesta-archive-is-an-easy-call/
"The more public power someone has, the less privacy they are
entitled to claim" -- Glenn Greenwald

So then why are your editorial subordinates helping and kissing ass
to these same power politicians, and stopping up the very flow of
leaks they depend on as journalists? There's not a shred of new
reporting in this, just pure boot licking

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/13/dear-clinton-team-we-noticed-you-might-need-
some-email-security-tips/

"So as a public service to Podesta and everyone else on Clinton's
staff, here are some email security tips... (passwords, phishing,
encryption, other apps / networks)."


Stick to reporting, and leave the dirty non public service of
consulting the political critters you report on... out of it.

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[John Newman]

> On Oct 14, 2016, at 9:57 PM, juan  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 21:31:04 -0400
> John Newman  wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2016, at 9:13 PM, juan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> global warming is a hoax. Then again, try telling a
>>> jew-kristian that kristianity is a hoax…
>>> 
>> 
>> Man, I’m not going to debate climate change with you, its a fucking 
>> stupid waste of time. If you honestly don’t believe in science that’s 
>> a problem you need to solve on your own. You’ll get there, give it
>> some time.
> 
> 
>   The thing is, I, unlike you, do know what science means. And
>   yes, I wouldn't bother discussing your enviro propaganda with
>   you either. 
> 
>   

And I’m the intellectually dishonest one?  Fucking hilarious.


>> 
>> In other words - you don’t know the first thing about the technical
>> aspects of it, so its of no interest to you. 
> 
> 
>   I have a general idea of the technical aspects, that's exaclty
>   why I know they are irrelevant bullshit. Oh yes, useless talk
>   about how your semi-flawed crypto an OSes run on fully
>   compromised, americunt hardware. Impressive. 
> 
>   But of course, you did get my point already, you just ignore it
>   because you cannot counter it. 

Its technical discussion that doesn’t interest you, so you call it "useless
talk". I think we are agreed on this - you are bored by purely technical 
discussions.  This doesn’t make the crypto list inherently flawed. It’s
just not for YOU, which is appropriate, since you likely can’t follow 
the discussions anyway.


>> 
>>> 
>>> Well, since any 'american' forum, including this one, is
>>> usually 100% 'american' propaganda, russian propaganda at least
>>> brings some variety to the table.
>>> 
>> 
>> It’s hardly a variety. The shit makes up 90% of the posts. It’s a big
>> fucking circle jerk between Zen, Alex and, to a lesser degree,
>> yourself.
> 
>   Well, at this point I wouldn't expect anythin sensible from
>   you.
> 
>   So feel free to link A SINGLE instance of my pro-russian
>   propganda, fucktard. Or even circle-jerking. I've made more
>   than one nasty remark on stuff Zen posts.
> 
>   Also, I made my position on russia clear when I said that
>   I consider russia to be fully 'western' and as such...just
>   another cesspool. I can quote myself if you want me to…
> 

My apologies on this one. I have seen Zen and Alex give you props
only about a fucking million times, but apparently its not a two way
street. You don’t actively support the fucking torrent of Russian bullshit,
but you mostly don’t say shit about it either. So consider yourself out of 
the circle jerk if that makes you feel better. 

And, no, don’t bother to quote yourself…. your inane, vicious, vulgar 
bullshit is generally not worth repeating.



John

Re: Fwd: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[Razer]

On 10/14/2016 03:19 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/13/2016 07:50 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> 
> He lost me when he started rambling on with his homespun automotive
> metaphors /way/ past the point where they became meaningless noise,
> referencing nothing.
> 
> But I kept reading anyway, until he REALLY lost me:
> 
>> Agenda 21 demands, such as deregulating or removing the laws that
>> have provided ethical guidance for foreign corporations in this
>> country, have been responsible for the attitudes we see in our
>> banking institutions, such as 'Can do' or 'We live in your world',
>> when dealing with their clients, as recent inquiries have exposed,
>> and are still being ignored by this government.
> 
> The gentleman apparently can't distinguish between Agenda 21 - a model
> charter for local sovereignty with regard to land use, resource
> extraction and commercial development - from the TPP, a binding treaty
> whose principal feature is the eradication of local sovereignty, as
> falsely attributed to Agenda 21 above.
> 
> Disinformation shops that push the belief that global warming is a
> hoax, also uniformly represent Agenda 21 as a conspiracy to establish
> a One World Government.
> 
> 
> 

HAR Matey! THIS is Agenda21:

> "We came to Henningsvaer.
> We saw the Skarbakk.
> We sank the bastard.”

(and:)

> “Norway announced an increased quota of Minke whales so we decided to
increase our quota of sunken whalers.”

Time is Short: Twenty Years of Sabotage & Agenda 21
December 5, 2012 Deep Green Resistance News Service

http://dgrnewsservice.org/resistance/strategy/time-is-short-twenty-years-of-sabotage-agenda-21/


The OTHER “Agenda 21” is nothing more that a ploy to shift the natural
ecosystem damage to the third world and extractive resource nations.

Rr

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[rooty]

Hi sea sea honey.- Muslim's are know to treat their women like shit - please 
run away to America the land of the free.




 Original Message 
On Oct 14, 2016, 9:40 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 20:46:51 -0400
John Newman  wrote:

>
> > On Oct 14, 2016, at 7:23 PM, juan  wrote:
> >
> > global warming is a hoax - and as I mentioned before you
> > are not even using the correct scam terminology : global warming
> >
>
>
> Global warming is not a hoax.


global warming is a hoax. Then again, try telling a
jew-kristian that kristianity is a hoax...



>
>
>
> >> This list is less than useless.
> >
> > translation : useless for establishment propaganda. Though
> > there's a good deal of establishment propaganda in it, so
> > who knows.
> >
>
>
> Translation: completely fucking barren of any worthwhile discussion,
> this one included.


So, why do you bother with it, and with your world-reheating
'science'?


>
>
>
> > Anyway, I'm sure you would be warmly welcomed in some Elite
> > Enlightened Institution like the 'cryptography' mailing
> > list.
> >
>
>
> What’s your problem with the crypto list?

I made it quite clear why that list is a cesspool =) - Check
today's archives.


> Too much technical talk?

third-rate, nerdy, pseudo-technical talk. Pretty much useless.
Or more correctly, pretty useful as far as not dealing with
fundamental issues goes. A collection of useful 'idiots'. Not
idiots of course but fully corrupt clowns.



> Not enough Russian propaganda?


Well, since any 'american' forum, including this one, is usually
100% 'american' propaganda, russian propaganda at least brings
some variety to the table.

But I can understand how russian propaganda would upset a few
people in this list...




>
>
>
> John

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[juan]

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 20:46:51 -0400
John Newman  wrote:

> 
> > On Oct 14, 2016, at 7:23 PM, juan  wrote:
> > 
> > global warming is a hoax - and as I mentioned before you
> > are not even using the correct scam terminology : global warming 
> > 
> 
> 
> Global warming is not a hoax.


global warming is a hoax. Then again, try telling a
jew-kristian that kristianity is a hoax...



> 
> 
> 
> >> This list is less than useless.
> > 
> > translation : useless for establishment propaganda. Though
> > there's a good deal of establishment propaganda in it, so
> > who knows. 
> > 
> 
> 
> Translation:  completely fucking barren of any worthwhile discussion,
> this one included.


So, why do you bother with it, and with your world-reheating
'science'? 


> 
> 
> 
> > Anyway,  I'm sure you would be warmly welcomed in some Elite
> > Enlightened Institution like the 'cryptography' mailing
> > list. 
> > 
> 
> 
> What’s your problem with the crypto list? 

I made it quite clear why that list is a cesspool =) - Check
today's archives.


> Too much technical talk?

third-rate, nerdy, pseudo-technical talk. Pretty much useless.
Or more correctly, pretty useful as far as not dealing with
fundamental issues goes. A collection of useful 'idiots'. Not
idiots of course but fully corrupt clowns.



> Not enough Russian propaganda? 


Well, since any 'american' forum, including this one, is usually
100% 'american' propaganda, russian propaganda at least brings
some variety to the table.

But I can understand how russian propaganda would upset a few
people in this list...




> 
> 
> 
> John

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[John Newman]

> On Oct 14, 2016, at 7:23 PM, juan  wrote:
> 
>   global warming is a hoax - and as I mentioned before you are not
>   even using the correct scam terminology : global warming 
> 


Global warming is not a hoax.



>> This list is less than useless.
> 
>   translation : useless for establishment propaganda. Though
>   there's a good deal of establishment propaganda in it, so who
>   knows. 
> 


Translation:  completely fucking barren of any worthwhile discussion, this 
   one included.



>   Anyway,  I'm sure you would be warmly welcomed in some Elite
>   Enlightened Institution like the 'cryptography' mailing list. 
> 


What’s your problem with the crypto list?  Too much technical talk?  Not
enough Russian propaganda? 



John

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[Mirimir]

On 10/14/2016 06:39 PM, juan wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 18:19:50 -0600
> Mirimir  wrote:
> 
>> On 10/14/2016 06:10 PM, juan wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:42:00 -0600
>>> Mirimir  wrote:
>>>
 On 10/14/2016 05:28 PM, juan wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:04:15 -0600
> Mirimir  wrote:
>
>
>>
>> As I said, you're a fucking hoax ;)
>
>
>   go kill some of your 'customers' with badly cut heroin,
> asshole.

 Yes, a fucking hoax who twists shit to support his fraudulent
 claims.
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, and by the way, I, unlike you, post using my real name.
>>> You on the other hand are pretty much an anonymous coward. Since
>>> your own character here is fake, you are by definition a
>>> hoax.
>>>
>>> Fucking idiot. 
>>
>> Ah, but you see, it's your life that's the hoax :)
> 
> 
> 
>   if an anonymous hoax and coward on the internet says so...

Yep, he does.

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[juan]

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 18:19:50 -0600
Mirimir  wrote:

> On 10/14/2016 06:10 PM, juan wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:42:00 -0600
> > Mirimir  wrote:
> > 
> >> On 10/14/2016 05:28 PM, juan wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:04:15 -0600
> >>> Mirimir  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> 
>  As I said, you're a fucking hoax ;)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   go kill some of your 'customers' with badly cut heroin,
> >>> asshole.
> >>
> >> Yes, a fucking hoax who twists shit to support his fraudulent
> >> claims.
> > 
> > 
> > Oh, and by the way, I, unlike you, post using my real name.
> > You on the other hand are pretty much an anonymous coward. Since
> > your own character here is fake, you are by definition a
> > hoax.
> > 
> > Fucking idiot. 
> 
> Ah, but you see, it's your life that's the hoax :)



if an anonymous hoax and coward on the internet says so...

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[Mirimir]

On 10/14/2016 06:10 PM, juan wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:42:00 -0600
> Mirimir  wrote:
> 
>> On 10/14/2016 05:28 PM, juan wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:04:15 -0600
>>> Mirimir  wrote:
>>>
>>>

 As I said, you're a fucking hoax ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> go kill some of your 'customers' with badly cut heroin,
>>> asshole.
>>
>> Yes, a fucking hoax who twists shit to support his fraudulent claims.
> 
> 
>   Oh, and by the way, I, unlike you, post using my real name. You
>   on the other hand are pretty much an anonymous coward. Since
>   your own character here is fake, you are by definition a hoax.
> 
>   Fucking idiot. 

Ah, but you see, it's your life that's the hoax :)

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[juan]

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:42:00 -0600
Mirimir  wrote:

> On 10/14/2016 05:28 PM, juan wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:04:15 -0600
> > Mirimir  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> As I said, you're a fucking hoax ;)
> > 
> > 
> > go kill some of your 'customers' with badly cut heroin,
> > asshole.
> 
> Yes, a fucking hoax who twists shit to support his fraudulent claims.


Oh, and by the way, I, unlike you, post using my real name. You
on the other hand are pretty much an anonymous coward. Since
your own character here is fake, you are by definition a hoax.

Fucking idiot. 

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[juan]

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:18:16 -0600
Mirimir  wrote:

> On 10/14/2016 05:02 PM, John Newman wrote:
> > Global warming is not a hoax.
> > 
> > This list is less than useless.
> 
> Yeah, it died, and then got reanimated by jerks. It's been a classic
> Usenet-style troll takeover. Sad :(



Why don't you explain the relationship of your
americunt enviro-fascism to crypto-anarchy? Oh wait...

So yeah, go cry on the shoulder of the other enviro-retards. 






> 
> > John
> > 
> >> On Oct 14, 2016, at 6:47 PM, juan  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 18:19:33 -0400
> >> Steve Kinney  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Disinformation shops that push the belief that global warming is a
> >>> hoax,
> >>
> >>global warming IS a hoax.
> >>
> >>
> >>> also uniformly represent Agenda 21 as a conspiracy to establish
> >>> a One World Government.
> >>
> >>
> >>I don't know what 'agenda 21' is and I don't much care, but
> >>global warming is a hoax well suited for establisihing a
> >> world government.
> >>
> >>And a world government is pretty much a 'logical' and
> >> 'natural' evolution of national government. 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> >>> Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)
> >>>
> >>> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJYAVn1AAoJEECU6c5XzmuqfYYIAMycRAscSHBNY3ROCmUGv/Ej
> >>> YjgPEO9CJdgBKoh4MjjIdlPU4JDA19pOxvP9iicGAGXHj3l2Lyk/SXwPOqCh/CrN
> >>> L/xKEXxdDyV55VHKu9I/epIVQJ1pcp8GmoXuHB+RMlooEevonVN21ubC6Tbh3eqI
> >>> FCVWdkQMimuhD5XxkkGLVprvwEpxHLPWLAciCCXvdM7QGMGbql+LsJcgYPWAw7Y/
> >>> KhhKi2rbOw9DhVtC81PjbWE9cErHRYaQvod5S3ckKHrKLr4+EHWXg3LIyeyJqUxt
> >>> In35cTV39z1Yhm2t7x8O0Pyau17BfSFxRzua5bYTaRBYounbCKl4jypPfNVg99E=
> >>> =aWeq
> >>> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> >>
> > 
> > 

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[juan]

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:04:15 -0600
Mirimir  wrote:


> 
> As I said, you're a fucking hoax ;)


go kill some of your 'customers' with badly cut heroin, asshole.



> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[Mirimir]

On 10/14/2016 05:02 PM, John Newman wrote:
> Global warming is not a hoax.
> 
> This list is less than useless.

Yeah, it died, and then got reanimated by jerks. It's been a classic
Usenet-style troll takeover. Sad :(

> John
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2016, at 6:47 PM, juan  wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 18:19:33 -0400
>> Steve Kinney  wrote:
>>
>>> Disinformation shops that push the belief that global warming is a
>>> hoax,
>>
>>  global warming IS a hoax.
>>
>>
>>> also uniformly represent Agenda 21 as a conspiracy to establish
>>> a One World Government.
>>
>>  
>>  I don't know what 'agenda 21' is and I don't much care, but
>>  global warming is a hoax well suited for establisihing a world
>>  government.
>>
>>  And a world government is pretty much a 'logical' and 'natural'
>>  evolution of national government. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
>>> Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)
>>>
>>> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJYAVn1AAoJEECU6c5XzmuqfYYIAMycRAscSHBNY3ROCmUGv/Ej
>>> YjgPEO9CJdgBKoh4MjjIdlPU4JDA19pOxvP9iicGAGXHj3l2Lyk/SXwPOqCh/CrN
>>> L/xKEXxdDyV55VHKu9I/epIVQJ1pcp8GmoXuHB+RMlooEevonVN21ubC6Tbh3eqI
>>> FCVWdkQMimuhD5XxkkGLVprvwEpxHLPWLAciCCXvdM7QGMGbql+LsJcgYPWAw7Y/
>>> KhhKi2rbOw9DhVtC81PjbWE9cErHRYaQvod5S3ckKHrKLr4+EHWXg3LIyeyJqUxt
>>> In35cTV39z1Yhm2t7x8O0Pyau17BfSFxRzua5bYTaRBYounbCKl4jypPfNVg99E=
>>> =aWeq
>>> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
>>
> 
> 

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[juan]

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 19:02:01 -0400
John Newman  wrote:

> Global warming is not a hoax.

global warming is a hoax - and as I mentioned before you are not
even using the correct scam terminology : global warming 

 
> This list is less than useless.

translation : useless for establishment propaganda. Though
there's a good deal of establishment propaganda in it, so who
knows. 

Anyway,  I'm sure you would be warmly welcomed in some Elite
Enlightened Institution like the 'cryptography' mailing list. 




ps: americans are worse than russians. I say that as an independent
third party =)





> 
> 
> John
> 
> > On Oct 14, 2016, at 6:47 PM, juan  wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 18:19:33 -0400
> > Steve Kinney  wrote:
> > 
> >> Disinformation shops that push the belief that global warming is a
> >> hoax,
> > 
> > global warming IS a hoax.
> > 
> > 
> >> also uniformly represent Agenda 21 as a conspiracy to establish
> >> a One World Government.
> > 
> > 
> > I don't know what 'agenda 21' is and I don't much care, but
> > global warming is a hoax well suited for establisihing a
> > world government.
> > 
> > And a world government is pretty much a 'logical' and
> > 'natural' evolution of national government. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> >> Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)
> >> 
> >> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJYAVn1AAoJEECU6c5XzmuqfYYIAMycRAscSHBNY3ROCmUGv/Ej
> >> YjgPEO9CJdgBKoh4MjjIdlPU4JDA19pOxvP9iicGAGXHj3l2Lyk/SXwPOqCh/CrN
> >> L/xKEXxdDyV55VHKu9I/epIVQJ1pcp8GmoXuHB+RMlooEevonVN21ubC6Tbh3eqI
> >> FCVWdkQMimuhD5XxkkGLVprvwEpxHLPWLAciCCXvdM7QGMGbql+LsJcgYPWAw7Y/
> >> KhhKi2rbOw9DhVtC81PjbWE9cErHRYaQvod5S3ckKHrKLr4+EHWXg3LIyeyJqUxt
> >> In35cTV39z1Yhm2t7x8O0Pyau17BfSFxRzua5bYTaRBYounbCKl4jypPfNVg99E=
> >> =aWeq
> >> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> > 
> 

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[Mirimir]

On 10/14/2016 05:05 PM, juan wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 16:51:33 -0600
> Mirimir  wrote:
> 
>> On 10/14/2016 04:47 PM, juan wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 18:19:33 -0400
>>> Steve Kinney  wrote:
>>>
 Disinformation shops that push the belief that global warming is a
 hoax,
>>>
>>> global warming IS a hoax.
>>
>> Dude, you're a hoax!
> 
> 
>   that coming from a tor-bot, who has a solid track record of
>   stupidity and absurdities including 'physics' and economics. 
> 
>   so again, global warming is hoax, tor is a US military weapon
>   you support, your highly stupid remarks about black markets show
>   you are either ignoran or dishonest, and zombie cats don't
>   exist. 

As I said, you're a fucking hoax ;)

>> 
> 
> 

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[John Newman]

Global warming is not a hoax.

This list is less than useless.


John

> On Oct 14, 2016, at 6:47 PM, juan  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 18:19:33 -0400
> Steve Kinney  wrote:
> 
>> Disinformation shops that push the belief that global warming is a
>> hoax,
> 
>   global warming IS a hoax.
> 
> 
>> also uniformly represent Agenda 21 as a conspiracy to establish
>> a One World Government.
> 
>   
>   I don't know what 'agenda 21' is and I don't much care, but
>   global warming is a hoax well suited for establisihing a world
>   government.
> 
>   And a world government is pretty much a 'logical' and 'natural'
>   evolution of national government. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
>> Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)
>> 
>> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJYAVn1AAoJEECU6c5XzmuqfYYIAMycRAscSHBNY3ROCmUGv/Ej
>> YjgPEO9CJdgBKoh4MjjIdlPU4JDA19pOxvP9iicGAGXHj3l2Lyk/SXwPOqCh/CrN
>> L/xKEXxdDyV55VHKu9I/epIVQJ1pcp8GmoXuHB+RMlooEevonVN21ubC6Tbh3eqI
>> FCVWdkQMimuhD5XxkkGLVprvwEpxHLPWLAciCCXvdM7QGMGbql+LsJcgYPWAw7Y/
>> KhhKi2rbOw9DhVtC81PjbWE9cErHRYaQvod5S3ckKHrKLr4+EHWXg3LIyeyJqUxt
>> In35cTV39z1Yhm2t7x8O0Pyau17BfSFxRzua5bYTaRBYounbCKl4jypPfNVg99E=
>> =aWeq
>> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> 

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[juan]

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 16:51:33 -0600
Mirimir  wrote:

> On 10/14/2016 04:47 PM, juan wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 18:19:33 -0400
> > Steve Kinney  wrote:
> > 
> >> Disinformation shops that push the belief that global warming is a
> >> hoax,
> > 
> > global warming IS a hoax.
> 
> Dude, you're a hoax!


that coming from a tor-bot, who has a solid track record of
stupidity and absurdities including 'physics' and economics. 

so again, global warming is hoax, tor is a US military weapon
you support, your highly stupid remarks about black markets show
you are either ignoran or dishonest, and zombie cats don't
exist. 








> 
> 

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[juan]

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 18:19:33 -0400
Steve Kinney  wrote:

> Disinformation shops that push the belief that global warming is a
> hoax,

global warming IS a hoax.


> also uniformly represent Agenda 21 as a conspiracy to establish
> a One World Government.


I don't know what 'agenda 21' is and I don't much care, but
global warming is a hoax well suited for establisihing a world
government.

And a world government is pretty much a 'logical' and 'natural'
evolution of national government. 






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Re: Fwd: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[Steve Kinney]

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Hash: SHA1



On 10/13/2016 07:50 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

He lost me when he started rambling on with his homespun automotive
metaphors /way/ past the point where they became meaningless noise,
referencing nothing.

But I kept reading anyway, until he REALLY lost me:

> Agenda 21 demands, such as deregulating or removing the laws that
> have provided ethical guidance for foreign corporations in this
> country, have been responsible for the attitudes we see in our
> banking institutions, such as 'Can do' or 'We live in your world',
> when dealing with their clients, as recent inquiries have exposed,
> and are still being ignored by this government.

The gentleman apparently can't distinguish between Agenda 21 - a model
charter for local sovereignty with regard to land use, resource
extraction and commercial development - from the TPP, a binding treaty
whose principal feature is the eradication of local sovereignty, as
falsely attributed to Agenda 21 above.

Disinformation shops that push the belief that global warming is a
hoax, also uniformly represent Agenda 21 as a conspiracy to establish
a One World Government.


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google is amazing

[juan]

http://realmoney.thestreet.com/articles/10/11/2016/edtech-loopholes-lead-cracks-googles-student-privacy-policy?cm_ven_int=homepage-latest-headlines


"Parents of students across America have been assured -- by Alphabet
(GOOGL) and school administrators -- that the carts of Google
Chromebooks being wheeled into their children's classrooms" 

Wait, what? Oh yes. Google is a military contractor. A tax parasite. In
this case a military contract selling equipment for the indoctrination
concentration camps of the US government. 

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

On Oct 14, 2016 4:22 PM, "Razer"  wrote:
>
> Someone sending me "I want to bury my face in your lap and smell your
aroma or I'll commit suicide" 

Hahaha!!!  Sorry, the idea is pretty fun.  "Or you let me bury my face in
your lap, or I'll commit suicide!"  Hahaha!!!  It's a direct threat much
better than yours, baby!  Hahaha!!!  ;D

Considering that my face is in Sao Paulo and your astonishing odorous lap
is in New York, it would not be very practical, Razer, hahaha!!!  ;D

Hey, please, may you make me a favour?  Stop creating fake accounts to
annoy me, saying bullshit and to leave the list.  Cyber bullying is very
childish.  Please, spend your free time in something more useful, more
constructive to the world.

It was interesting to discover today that you are _NOT_ able of compassion
and kindness when you see someone suffering.  Talking about Human Rights on
a mailing list or twitter is very easy.  Being really human is not, Razer.
Very contraditory talking so much about Human Rights and say to a person
dies, asking them to suicide, right after humiliating them in public
several times.  It's cruel.

Someday, I certainly will die, but not because I didn't buried my face in
your lap, hahaha!!!  ;D

Take care, fool guy.  Kisses in your fabulous yummy lap, hahaha!!!  ;D

Ceci, the pervert who attacks male laps...  Run to the mountains, all the
men with delicious manly musky laps!  :D

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Razer]

On 10/14/2016 12:00 PM, Mirimir wrote:
> On 10/14/2016 12:13 PM, Razer wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> I've violated NO ONE'S privacy.
> 
> You've done what you've done. Others will act accordingly.
> 
> 
> 


Stupidly ambivalent. Explain how posting an UNWANTED AND UNSOLICITED
EMAIL violates the right to privacy of someone whose contact wasn't
requested or desired after they were repeatedly informed of that?

I've received emails that say "Please don't repost this info" or "For
your eyes only" or something to that effect from KNOWN contacts and I
HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE violated that trust.

Someone sending me "I want to bury my face in your lap and smell your
aroma or I'll commit suicide" (a conflation) emails despite my request
they stop? Sorry asscrack. FAIR GAME.

Rr

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Mirimir]

On 10/14/2016 12:13 PM, Razer wrote:



> I've violated NO ONE'S privacy.

You've done what you've done. Others will act accordingly.

Rooty tooty xorcists r us: "101 Ways I Screwed Up Making a Fake Identity"

[Razer]

101 Ways I Screwed Up Making a Fake Identity

Posted on October 13, 2016 by hacks4pancakes

As most of you know, my professional area of expertise in security is
incident response, with an emphasis on system / malware forensics and
OSINT. I’m fortunate enough in my position in the security education and
con community to sometimes get pulled into other directions of blue
teaming and the occasional traditional penetration testing. However, the
rarest of those little fun excursions are into the physical pen testing
and social engineering realm. In the breaking into buildings and
pretending to be a printer tech realm, I’m merely a hobbyist.

Therefore, it was a bit remarkable that in the course of developing some
training, there was a request for me to create some fake online personas
that would hold up against moderately security savvy users. I think most
of us have created an online alter ego to some extent, but these needed
to be pretty comprehensive to stand up to some scrutiny. Just making an
email account wasn’t going to cut it.

So Pancakes went on an adventure into Backstop land. And made a lot of
amusing mistakes and learned quite a few things on the way. I’ll share
some of them here, so the social engineers can have a giggle and offer
suggestions in the comments, and the other hobbyists can learn from my
mistakes. Yes, there are automated tools that will help you do this if
you have to do it in bulk for work, but many of the problems still
exist. (Please keep in mind that misrepresenting yourself on these
services can cause your account to be suspended or banned, so if you’re
doing more than academic security  education or research, do cover your
legal bases.)


More:
https://tisiphone.net/2016/10/13/101-ways-i-screwed-up-making-a-fake-identity/

Re: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[John Newman]

> On Oct 14, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Razer  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/14/2016 10:09 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
>> Reposting email clearly intended to be private
> 
> 
> Spam mail is intended to be private too. So I shouldn't pass that info
> on to a sysadmin or other person who might be spammed due to, let's say,
> hijacked address book?
> 
> IOW You ARE NOT MAKING A VALID POINT!
> 
> I did not request the emails, I did not originate the conversations at
> any point. I attempted to SEVERELY DISSUADE THE PERSON from sending
> them. Suicide threats from someone I don't know?
> 
> Fuck that. Go kill yourself. There are people trying desperately to live
> and dying for no good reason and I'm going to worry about unsolicited
> suicide notes from someone I don't even know?
> 
> Maybe I should feel sorry for that esquire from Nigeria who wants to
> deposit money in my bank account because he's being hounded by his
> government too?
> 
> Your idea of "Private" is perverse and dysfunctional. "She" ('her'
> recent spew before subsiding was very masculine in nature) has been
> sending this garbage to a few other UNWILLING RECIPIENTS whose emails

None of these other UNWILLING RECIPIENTS has seen fit to broadcast a private 
message over and over.


> she only knows because this list is so fucking unsecured it passes your

So "unsecured" ?  How do you suggest the list be "secured"?  



John


> email on to... whomever. Spam email harvesters etc.
> 
> I've violated NO ONE'S privacy.
> 
> Hugs and kisses... I'd like to be in your lap right now...
> 
> Crap.
> 
> Rr
> 

Re: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[juan]

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 13:02:04 -0500
"Shawn K. Quinn"  wrote:

> On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 15:07 -0300, juan wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:51:00 -0500
> > "Shawn K. Quinn"  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the
> > > list to begin with, 
> > 
> > 
> > Like your constant calls for censorship and your sick
> > 

Re: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[rooty]

hi hi jaun ;-






 Original Message 
On Oct 14, 2016, 10:59 AM, juan wrote:

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:51:00 -0500
"Shawn K. Quinn"  wrote:


> Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the
> list to begin with,


Like your constant calls for censorship and your sick americunt
propaganda, for instance.


> such as the explicit garbage clearly never
> intended for public consumption which I was originally replying to?
>

Re: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[juan]

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:51:00 -0500
"Shawn K. Quinn"  wrote:


> Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the
> list to begin with, 


Like your constant calls for censorship and your sick americunt
propaganda, for instance. 


> such as the explicit garbage clearly never
> intended for public consumption which I was originally replying to?
> 

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Shawn K. Quinn]

On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 11:46 -0600, Mirimir wrote:
> On 10/14/2016 11:09 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
> > No moderator worth his/her salt would ever have approved your posting.
> > Something to think about.
> > 
> > Reposting email clearly intended to be private is often in poor taste,
> > even if technically legal. Especially if it is explicit in nature, as
> > this one was.
> 
> Well, except that this is a totally unmoderated list. Which is a good
> thing, I believe. So it's all on Razer.

My points with that statement about a moderator were:
1. The original should never have been posted. 
2. An unmoderated list means the participants themselves are supposed to
moderate their postings, and because posts like the original are making
it on to the list anyway, clearly this is failing.

Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the list
to begin with, such as the explicit garbage clearly never intended for
public consumption which I was originally replying to?

-- 
Shawn K. Quinn 

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Mirimir]

On 10/14/2016 11:09 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 06:34 -0700, Razer wrote:
>> Anyone wanna 'grab a digital 

Re: Jake and Tor article

[Razer]

On 10/14/2016 09:45 AM, Mirimir wrote:
> On 10/14/2016 09:57 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
>> On Oct 14, 2016 10:28 AM, "Razer"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sound like information suppression to me... Jacob Appelbaum is a 'public
>> person' and subject to conversation, and he expects it. Don't like it?
>>> Don't read it.
>>
>> Razer, I love Jake and he knows it very well.  I was just trying to stop
>> your creepy public threats, which were completely off topic and very
>> bizarre.
>>
>> Please, if you want to talk about Jake, talk about him,not about me,
>> Razer.  Weirdo psycho, aff...
> 


> Yeah. As I said, it's just not honorable to disclose private
> communications. Or even privileged information obtained through private
> communications. I learned that as a drug dealer. As an activist. When I
> started using the Internet. As a sovereign individual.
> 


This discussion happens on the street a LOT you know.

There's people who talk about people for the sake of influence peddling
and just talking smack.

Then there are people who talk about people when the people they're
discussing it with, typically friends, ARE IN DANGER OR POTENTIALLY
THREATENED due to the person being discussed.

Police Snitching and careless talk/influence peddling people get stitches.

Sharing important intelligence with comrades does not seem to have that
effect. You wouldn't tell one of your drug dealing comrades you
suspected someone was a narc? If not, Why? More biz for you while the
other dealer's sitting in jail perhaps?

Rr


> OK, you say, but what about leaking stuff? How is that not disclosing
> privileged information? For sure. But it's distinguishable. Leaking is
> honorable when the subject is powerful, and is using their power to
> injure the innocent. 


PSychological trolling injures the innocent.

Let's say, for giggles because it isn't the case, that I had just ended
a relationship and was feeling depressed and not interested in someone
else's advances, and I was receiving mail like that?

Innocent and injured. Perhaps driven to suicide eh?


Posting private messages in public, without
> explicit permission, does not constitute leaking. It is dishonorable,
> and it demonstrates that the perpetrator cannot be trusted.
> 
> Just sayin'.
> 

Someone sending unsolicited emails, especially when they're requested to
desist is "dishonorable and it demonstrates that the perpetrator cannot
be trusted."

Rr

Ps. You said you were a drug dealer. You never learned "Don't Trust
ANYONE"? How DID you survive? Must have been a pretty middle class circle.

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Shawn K. Quinn]

On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 06:34 -0700, Razer wrote:
> Anyone wanna 'grab a digital 

Re: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[juan]

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:34:59 -0400
John Newman  wrote:

> 
> An informal group dedicated to public education and dissemination of
> encryption (also known as cryptography, the science and art of secret
> writing). I originally hosted the mailing list (cypherpu...@toad.com)
> and provided space for the first few years' worth of meetings. A
> descendant of the mailing list is still operating; subscribe to
> cryptogra...@metzdowd.com."
> 
> No mention of the current cypherpunks list :P  


Right. That tells you exactly what gilmore stands for. His EFF
was already and correctly seen as corrupt and useless 20 years
ago - check the archives of gilmore's original, 'own' cypherpunk
mailing list. 

Also, the amount of effort needed to learn what kind of
textbook example of unintentional self-pardoy the 'cryptography'
mailing list is, is very low. Just spend ten minutes reading the
pseudo technical garbage that gets posted to that fully censored
cesspool =)





> 
> Taken from http://www.toad.com/gnu/
> 
> 
> John

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[xorcist]

> It's a waste of time and bandwidth responding to ...

Lulz

> Or the psychological stalking by

Translation: When you call him on lies and bullshit, it's 'psychological
stalking'

..thats so full of win, I'm going to start using that. Outright lie, and
when called on it 'Hey, don't psychologically stalk me, that's rude.'

Fuck me the world is doomed.

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Mirimir]

On 10/14/2016 10:22 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>>
>> Fishing for an age... Wrong. Don't bother trying again.
>>
> 
> Not two minutes before you sent the above quoted message, you posted a
> message saying your reply would be the last in thread. Obviously not.
> 
> But whatever. Uhm -- No, not fishing at all.  Maybe you are a senile
> 71-yro after all? Because your memory is obviously garbage.
> 
> In our first interaction on this list you made a ridiculous claim that you
> were being profiled by the government. In your words, paraphrased, since
> before they were really using computers, when things were being done with
> paper and punch cards.
> 
> As I pointed out in a private message to you, which you also then posted
> publicly here, punch cards were phased out in the 1960s.
> 
> If you were a well-connected extremely rabid 20-year-old radical in 1965,
> to make the fed's watch-list at that tender age, today you would be 71
> years old.
> 
> I don't care how old you are. It's just an observation based on the
> stupid, paranoid, ridiculous shit that you constantly say. And I'll tell
> you WHY I don't care, in the slightest, about you or any personal details
> about you:
> 
> You're an unimportant, clueless child, with a penchant for paranoia, and
> grandiose claims. You're rude, wear the term "asshole" like a badge of
> honor. This alone limits any effect, or importance you could possibly have
> to anyone, in any possible universe or social circle here on earth. You're
> nothing, and the few morsels of information or opinion that you offer that
> are worth anything, are really just pre-chewed pieces of fat gleaned from
> other sources. At best, you're the net equivalent of a talking head,
> dutifully reading off the page presented to you from somewhere else,
> trying to convince us that it has merit.
> 
> You have never had an original thought in your short little life, and
> since you obviously feed your ego mostly through the goings-on here - the
> net equivalent of scrawling graffiti in a dis-used lavatory at a random
> highway rest stop, it is quite likely that you never will have such a
> thought.
> 
> You have proudly written about how you avoid IT work, preferring other
> forms of labor out of some ideological duty -- which may be at least
> partly true, but it is just as likely, given the observations above, that
> you're just scared shitless to actually put your talents and mind to the
> test, because deep down, you wonder if you have what it takes.
> 
> That's just my opinion, off the top of my head, from what I remember of
> your nonsense.
> 
> It would be dizzingly pathetic, if it weren't so clockwork-regular like a
> fucking automaton.

That sound about right.

Thanks, bro :)

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Razer]

On 10/14/2016 09:34 AM, John Newman responded to a troll responding to a
troll:


> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 05:52:50PM +0200, aestetix wrote:
>> Make Cypherpunks Great Again.
>>
> 
> Lulz!  I find it interesting that on John Gilmore's home page, under
> accomplishments, he says the following about the cypherpunks list:
> 
> 
> "The Cypherpunks (with Eric Hughes and Tim May)
> 
> An informal group dedicated to public education and dissemination of
> encryption (also known as cryptography, the science and art of secret
> writing). I originally hosted the mailing list (cypherpu...@toad.com)
> and provided space for the first few years' worth of meetings. A
> descendant of the mailing list is still operating; subscribe to
> cryptogra...@metzdowd.com."
> 
> No mention of the current cypherpunks list :P  
> 
> Taken from http://www.toad.com/gnu/
> 
> 
> John
> 

Whasamtter John don't like my posts about Geofeedia stalking black
activists?


It's a waste of time and bandwidth responding to trolls and the
resultant flames. I'd MUCH RATHER be posting stuff like the above and
discussing it, but I see a LOT of disruption being caused by what appear
to be one or two posters using a number of different emails and fuck you
if I can't point out the disruption. Or the psychological stalking by
someone using what appears to be a stolen identity, of quite a few
people resulting from involvement in the list.

Rr

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Razer]

On 10/14/2016 09:22 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>  Maybe you are a senile 1-yro after all? Because your memory is obviously 
> garbage


But... umn, whatever you want to believe troll. Yeah, I said that was my
last post in the thread. I misspoke. That's my last post addressing
'aff... CeCe' or whatever it is.

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

On Oct 14, 2016 1:08 PM, "Александр"  wrote:
>
> 2016-10-14 18:52 GMT+03:00 Razer :
>>
>> Is there some part of "Fuck Off" you fail to comprehend troll?
>>
>> Or are you simply looking for codependent sympathy from your next
>> stalking victims by posting that gibberish?
>
>
> Razer, i'm sure it's the second option.
> Mirmir is already deep inside her web... and now we see more and more
"Medieval Knights" who want to protect "woman's honor". The trouble is..
that there is NO woman here (in the true sense of the word) and, of course,
there is NO honor/dignity. Just a heap of mud with the name "cici".
> *෴*

Get a life, bitch.  The discussion didn't arrive in Putin's asshole yet.
Keep licking it and don't disturb the list, slut.

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Александр]

2016-10-14 18:52 GMT+03:00 Razer :

> Is there some part of "Fuck Off" you fail to comprehend troll?
>
> Or are you simply looking for codependent sympathy from your next
> stalking victims by posting that gibberish?
>

Razer, i'm sure it's the second option.
Mirmir is already deep inside her web... and now we see more and more
"Medieval Knights" who want to protect "woman's honor". The trouble is..
that there is NO woman here (in the true sense of the word) and, of course,
there is NO honor/dignity. *Just a heap of mud with the name "cici".*
*෴*

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Razer]

On 10/14/2016 08:29 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
> On Oct 14, 2016 12:08 PM, "Razer"  > wrote:
>>
>> I'm not some ... psychopath  
> 
> You are a hysterical, very noisy and dramatic psychopath, Razer. 
> 
> You are very sick.  Please, as I said before, search for psychiatric
> treatment with urgence.
> 
> We both are crazy, but I only hurt myself.  You hurt other people.  It's
> evil.
> 

Is there some part of "Fuck Off" you fail to comprehend troll?

Or are you simply looking for codependent sympathy from your next
stalking victims by posting that gibberish?

Last reply on thread. Period.

Rr

ACLU: Black Protesters and other activists stalked by "Geofeedia" on Twitter FB Instagram

[Razer]

It *appears* Twitter thought they were a marketing geolocation company
and immediately cut them off
. No word from FB
or it's wholly pwnd subsidiary Instagram

https://www.aclunc.org/blog/facebook-instagram-and-twitter-provided-data-access-surveillance-product-marketed-target

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/12/technology/aclu-facebook-twitter-instagram-geofeedia.html?_r=0

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/10/aclu-exposes-facebook-twitter-for-selling-surveillance-company-user-data/

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

On Oct 14, 2016 12:08 PM, "Razer"  wrote:
>
> I'm not some ... psychopath  

You are a hysterical, very noisy and dramatic psychopath, Razer.

You are very sick.  Please, as I said before, search for psychiatric
treatment with urgence.

We both are crazy, but I only hurt myself.  You hurt other people.  It's
evil.

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

Ok, I can't make anything if Razer prefers sex with little boys and to
support Nambla.

Sorry to everybody for this public soap opera.  It's so bizarre that it
becomes funny.  I never will purr in laps of crazy hysterical guys like
Razer again, I promise.

So life goes on...  :)

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

Razer, you are strange.  I am crazy, but you are crazier.  And absolutely
hysterical because don't like to lose a discussion, aff...
On Oct 14, 2016 10:34 AM, "Razer"  wrote:

>
> Anyone wanna 'grab a digital pussy'?
>
> Some people like 'em nuts.
>
>
> I'm not interested.
>
> Rr
>
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article
> Date:   Fri, 14 Oct 2016 02:09:30 -0300
> From:   Cecilia Tanaka 
>
>
> I am really wasted, exhausted, breathing bad, but wanted to say *I do
> love you* before trying to sleep.  Wish you lovely dreams and a restful
> sleep, my dear.
>
> I am not flirting with you, but I still think you are sexy.  Completely
> crazy, stubborn, but charming, seem have a deliciously manly smell and a
> circumcised penis.  Puuurrr...  Meow!  Would love to be in your lap now
> just to smell you...  <3
>
> Intelligence is always sexy and I love circumcised penis.  It would very
> nice if you could be a pain in my ass, not in my neck.  Nothing is more
> Latin than hot, wild sex after stupid discussions, hmm...
>
> Kisses and snugglehugs, sweetie.  You are crazy, I am crazier...  So
> life goes on, hihi...  Fool!  :)
>
>

Fwd: Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

Razer, hysterical as always.
-- Forwarded message --
From: "Cecilia Tanaka" 
Date: Oct 14, 2016 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article
To: "Razer" 

On Oct 13, 2016 11:22 PM, "Razer"  wrote:
>
> I haven't been "Hysterical" one day in my life.

Well, your concept of "hysterical" is certainly different from mine, my
dear Razer.  Maybe a cultural difference.  :-/

Hysterical, for me, means "marked by uncontrollable, extreme emotion" and
when a person makes a public direct threat, I suppose this person is _not_
being calm and acting in a rational way.  Here, in Brazil, it's considered
hysterical, crazy, dramatical.  Do you understand my point of view?  :-/

> I haven't subscribed you to anything,

I believe in you, Razer, but *you* gave the awesome idea in a public list,
mentioning my name and giving those lovely sites and lists as examples.
Should I thank you for it, my dear?

> and you bring your own trolling on yourself which I SAID I WASN'T
INTERESTED IN YOU DOING FOR ME TOO.
>
> That WAS the gist of my original post. Stop TROLLING my handle around for
your bot buddies to find.

Razer, you are a very intelligent man.  You know it and I always admired
your intelligence, your direct way of speaking about your own believes,
your sincerity.

So why the fuck you simply didn't ask me in private to avoid mention your
name in my messages, explaining the reasons, instead making a creepy and
dramatic public threat?

The passional Nipo-Latin here is me, not you!  My Jew boyfriend was very
sweet, but extremely rational.  Guy, you studied a lot for being fair and
rational!  Let the passion thing for me, a Latin girl, please!  :P

Man, that message was insane!  I was in doubt if you were joking with me or
really threating me in public.  Please, be very *clear* in the next
messages and avoid these bizarre misunderstandings!

You always had the most complete freedom to say me everything you wanted in
private or in public.  You could simply say something like "Fuck you,
Ceci!  Stop talking to trolls!"  or  "Never say Razer in vain, because all
the holy books (or whatever) say it's forbidden, a mortal sin!"...

Shit, I love you.  Why would I ignore your asking?  You hurt me a lot just
because you did want it.  So, please, let me in peace.  I need a time for
healing.

Kisses, my dear.  Sleep well and have sweet dreams.

Fwd: Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

Ok, tell the whole story at least.  Who did contact me in private first?
Do you want I send all the past messages too?
-- Forwarded message --
From: "Cecilia Tanaka" 
Date: Oct 13, 2016 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article
To: "Razer" 

My dear Razer,

Being sincere, after your hysteric attack  (aka "direct threat"),  all the
trolls and haters of the cypherpunks list love us both.  And rooty is not a
bot, it's just a creepy, retard teenager, provoking some persons for the
lulz.  Search better, hard headed.

I already received some strange messages as courtesy of your lovely public
suggestions.  If you won't subscribe me on bizarre mailings, someone will
do it pretending to be you.  Should I thank you, my dear?

Congratulations, you humiliated me in public and fucked my e-mail
address...  Are you happy now?  Did you have orgasms knowing I would cry
and feel broken hearted, betrayed, exposed?

You got all the attentions today like an amazing rock star and exposed me
and the private messages sent by Mirimir.  You showed your true colors.
You are not a trustful person and I am disappointed.

I always admired you a lot, but now I will never trust in you again.  I
loved you, your messages, your humanity, your intelligence, everything.
Now, please, forget my "fake existence" and never write to me again.

You hurt me much more than imagine and simply don't care if I am well or
not, you just want to prove me that you are right, that never are wrong.
You wrote me in private just to hurt me again.  More and more drama.  Do
you think it is normal?  Maybe in USA, but here, in my country, it's pretty
bizarre.

We both need silence, taking a time for rest and thinking better.  Too much
noise, I am wasted and fucking sad.

Look, I love you, Razer, but like happened with my last kitten, which I
loved very much, our convivence is not possible.  He pooped in my books,
you pooped in my feelings.

Take care and be happy, my love.  When you are not being neurotic and
kicking the wrong person, you are a lovely, very dear guy.

Kisses and hugs from Brazil.

-  c.

PS:  -  Do you know why I never had children alone?  Love.  Fear for
them...

"You fasten all the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion'
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud.

You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins."

('Masters of War' - Bob Dylan)
On Oct 13, 2016 9:55 PM, "Razer"  wrote:

>
> Here... Talk to the bot... It likes you.
>
> afff... afff...
>
> Rr
>
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:Re: Jake and Tor article
> Date:   Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:19:07 -0400
> From:   rooty 
> Reply-To:   rooty 
> To: cpunks 
>
>
>
> thank you me me and sea sea - rr is leaking oil badly the trick below
> has been dead for years  and just doesnt work -
>
> .
>
>
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: Re: Jake and Tor article
> > Local Time: October 13, 2016 9:27 AM
> > UTC Time: October 13, 2016 4:27 PM
> > From: miri...@riseup.net
> > To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
> >
> > On 10/13/2016 08:42 AM, Razer wrote:
> > > Cc: cecilia.tan...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > I'll tell ya what Cecilia. If you don't stop setting me, and the list,
> > > up for spam by using the spammer's handle and my handle FOR NO GOOD
> > > REASON in the same emails ... I'm gonna start subscribing you to every
> > > White Supremacist newsletter I can find. Then I'll start working on the
> > > Misogynist Sites. Then... Nambla. Maybe you like little boys eh?
> > >
> > > That's a direct threat.
> >
> > Maybe chill some, bro?
> >
> >
>
>

dEFECTIVEbOT

[Razer]

If rxxty was a really well-developed bot it would regurgitate your email
address in the reply line for spam harvesters.

Rr



that and bdf_proxy has onionduke canned into it - NO http downloads


 Original Message 
On Oct 2, 2016, 3:19 PM, John wrote:



http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/51848/deep-web/defector-tor-deanonymizing.html

John
--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: Jake and Tor article

[Razer]

Sound like information suppression to me... Jacob Appelbaum is a 'public
person' and subject to conversation, and he expects it. Don't like it?
Don't read it.

Rr

On 10/13/2016 09:04 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
> Please, guys, let's kill this thread forever.  Sorry, this discussion is
> _not_ healthy.  It was harmful to some persons, in special for me.
> 
> I do love 'He-who-must-not-be-named-but-is-not-Lord-Voldermort' and it's
> everything ok now.  No panic, no towels needed.
> 
> Much love, good night kisses and sweet dreams wishes for all of you...  <3
> 
> "Brahms Lullaby"
> 
> http://youtu.be/gsFQcQKWgTQ
> 
> Lullaby, and good night, in the skies stars are bright.
> May the moon's silvery beams bring you sweet dreams.
> Close your eyes now and rest, may these hours be blessed.
> 'Til the sky's bright with dawn, when you wake with a yawn.
> 
> Lullaby, and good night, you are mother's delight.
> I'll protect you from harm, and you'll wake in my arms.
> 
> Sleepyhead, close your eyes, for I'm right beside you.
> Guardian angels are near, so sleep without fear.
> Lullaby, and good night, with roses bedight.
> Lilies o'er head, lay thee down in thy bed.
> 
> Lullaby, and good night, you are mother's delight.
> I'll protect you from harm, and you'll wake in my arms.
> 
> Lullaby, and sleep tight, my darling sleeping.
> On sheets white as cream, with a head full of dreams.
> Sleepyhead, close your eyes, I'm right beside you.
> Lay thee down now and rest, may your slumber be blessed.
> 
> Go to sleep, little one, think of puppies and kittens.
> Go to sleep, little one, think of butterflies in spring.
> Go to sleep, little one, think of sunny bright mornings.
> Hush, darling one, sleep through the night,
> Sleep through the night,
> Sleep through the night.
> 

Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Razer]

Anyone wanna 'grab a digital pussy'?

Some people like 'em nuts.


I'm not interested.

Rr

 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article
Date:   Fri, 14 Oct 2016 02:09:30 -0300
From:   Cecilia Tanaka 


I am really wasted, exhausted, breathing bad, but wanted to say *I do
love you* before trying to sleep.  Wish you lovely dreams and a restful
sleep, my dear.

I am not flirting with you, but I still think you are sexy.  Completely
crazy, stubborn, but charming, seem have a deliciously manly smell and a
circumcised penis.  Puuurrr...  Meow!  Would love to be in your lap now
just to smell you...  <3

Intelligence is always sexy and I love circumcised penis.  It would very
nice if you could be a pain in my ass, not in my neck.  Nothing is more
Latin than hot, wild sex after stupid discussions, hmm...

Kisses and snugglehugs, sweetie.  You are crazy, I am crazier...  So
life goes on, hihi...  Fool!  :)

Re: [WAR] negotiations deciding the fate of the world

[John Newman]

I wouldn't be so sure that the dragon will "crumble" and die that easily... 

When you put yourself in an echo chamber of right wing / pro-Russian / Kremlin 
propaganda sites you're going to hear events with a certain slant.

No different that dealing strictly with MSM.


John

> On Oct 14, 2016, at 6:37 AM, Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> 
> * Good news. The despotic USA empire is crumbling, the USA elite
>  factions are sacrificing even the little remaining standing of their
>  empire, on the altar of their political infighting.
> 
> * Bad news. The USA is crumbling, and being a dying dragon, must be
>  treated with utmost caution, and continuing immovable resolve.
> 
> * Good news: Multi polar world is now a certainty! Russia has
>  re-established her power status, her national integrity, and the
>  military and diplomatic strength of her people, and on an
>  international political platform which does -not- include imposing
>  its political system on other countries.  Awesome news for those who
>  seek a reasonably balanced world equation, notwithstanding personal
>  utopias we might strive for in local pockets.
> 
> * Potentially bad news: the war party which is neither GOP nor DNC but
>  whoever is funded by the American military industrial banking spying
>  complex (i.e., usually both candidates are as bad as each other), is
>  currently still headed by one of the two leading (in the public mind)
>  candidates, Hitlery Clinton, so there's a chance she will be elected
>  in November, which could mean a final push by the dying dragon for
>  WW3.
>  (Trump may be an unknown, but given the nuclear armageddon stakes,
>  flipping a coin on Trump is far better odds than the sociopathic
>  certainty of Hillary "we came, we saw, he died, hahahah" Clinton!)
> 
> 
> May the world suffer events -other- than WW3, as the modern empire dies/
> contracts.
> 
> 
> 
> US ADMITS BIG LOSS IN SYRIA: Leaked Kerry recordings expose fear of
> Russian victory
> October 3, 2016
> http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/10/us-admits-big-loss-in-syria-leaked.html
> 
> "All that is left is to squeeze [the USA] to recognize this [new
> reality] not only on the sidelines of the UN, but officially.
> 
> I think that our [Russian] air force can handle this task."

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[Tom]

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 06:04:34PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> How about reforming the "modern" "democratic" state with direct
> democracy - Swiss style ?

Doesn't work:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Schweizer-erlauben-Geheimdienst-umfangreiches-Ueberwachungsarsenal-3331327.html

(german only, sorry).

In a referendum swiss citizens agreed to the latest surveilance law
(NDG). According to the new law NDB (swiss intelligence service)
will be allowed to:

- open letters
- intercept phone calls
- intercept sms
- install bug devices in apparments
- install troyans on computers and mobiles
- apply gps trackers to vehicles
- live-search of communications like mail or chat
- interrupt & attack networks (domestic and foreign)
- store all collected data for 6 months
- companies are obliged to comply with surveillance requests
- no more protection of lawers or journalists
- and a lot more

65% of voters agreed with the law.




Tom.

Re: Inspirational - Senator Culleton's Passionate Maiden Senate Speech gets Standing Ovation - YouTube

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:06:07PM -0300, juan wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:25:14 +1100
> Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> 
> 
> > If you read
> > his speech, you will see that, at least at this early hour (his maiden
> > speech), he is not "a politician" 
> 
> 
>   I read enough to find out what he claims to believe about the
>   state and economic activities. He's the typical intervionist
>   saying that 'good' government is needed to 'regulate'
>   businesses. When in reality, of course, businesses and
>   government are sides of the same corrupt coin. 

Fair enough.

>   I'm not going to bother researching what the australian
>   government did to sheep farmers in the 80s. Part of what he
>   says may be true. And if it's true then that would be an even
>   bigger reason to get rid of government, not to allegedly try to
>   'reform' it. 

True.

>   He is part of the problem, not the solution. Like any other
>   poliician he will serve himself and those who finance him.

There is no flow chart for such humans to refer to, describing rational
solutions to their real and historical problems. Like that "are we
having a rational conversation/ debate" flowchart.


How about reforming the "modern" "democratic" state with direct
democracy - Swiss style ?