date:20170413



On 04/13/2017 08:11 PM, \0xDynamite wrote:
> It's a fine point, but this problem is far more subtle than oppressive
> forces.  In the issue of Iraqis, for example, there is an issue of
> ignorance.  If someone in the West would have taken the time to teach
> them and cross-ferilize cultures, these things wouldn't happen.  But
> no one did that.  There are serious scriptural holes, between the
> Christian and Islam, that can be united if someone were to take the
> effort.  Strangely, no one did.  So they were discarded by the West.
> But that event isn't just an issue of guns, it's an issue of everyday
> people not giving a damn about anyone outside our culture.
>
> The problem is always in the mirror.
>
> Marxos
>
> On 4/13/17, Razer  wrote:
>>
>> On 04/13/2017 07:11 PM, \0xDynamite wrote:
>>> The people activists paint as "evil empire" are comical, as in
>>> literally something mythological and from a comic book.
>>
>> A million and a half... perhaps twice that number, of dead Iraqis, would
>> debate that point.
>>
>> Rr
>>


So... You're saying if they culturally assimilated (cf. self-inflicted
cultural genocide ) to
that 'evil empire' that you consider so 'comical' and 'mythological',
everything would be hunky dory because they assimilated to a funny myth.

Do you actually read what you write?

Rr

Re: Skrymions: Data storage breakthough

2017-04-13 Thread \0xDynamite

It's a fine point, but this problem is far more subtle than oppressive
forces.  In the issue of Iraqis, for example, there is an issue of
ignorance.  If someone in the West would have taken the time to teach
them and cross-ferilize cultures, these things wouldn't happen.  But
no one did that.  There are serious scriptural holes, between the
Christian and Islam, that can be united if someone were to take the
effort.  Strangely, no one did.  So they were discarded by the West.
But that event isn't just an issue of guns, it's an issue of everyday
people not giving a damn about anyone outside our culture.

The problem is always in the mirror.

Marxos

On 4/13/17, Razer  wrote:
>
>
> On 04/13/2017 07:11 PM, \0xDynamite wrote:
>>
>> The people activists paint as "evil empire" are comical, as in
>> literally something mythological and from a comic book.
>
>
> A million and a half... perhaps twice that number, of dead Iraqis, would
> debate that point.
>
> Rr
>

Re: Skrymions: Data storage breakthough



On 04/13/2017 07:11 PM, \0xDynamite wrote:
>
> The people activists paint as "evil empire" are comical, as in
> literally something mythological and from a comic book. 


A million and a half... perhaps twice that number, of dead Iraqis, would
debate that point.

Rr

Re: Skrymions: Data storage breakthough

2017-04-13 Thread \0xDynamite

>> I said it before.  Heavy industry amplifies human will.  High
>> technology amplifies the mind.  They can amplify virtue or vice.
>
>   True, but not really what I am getting at.
>
>   It seems to me that 'you guys' the cypherpunks/technology
>   optimists have a naive or shallow understanding of the very
>   technology you are selling or promoting.

I doubt it.  By "shallow" do you mean "how technology is used to take
our righst/oppress us/fart in our faces?"  Or is there something more
we should know.

I mean, the urgency you might feel is real, it's just that it's
neither technology nor action that will create the solution.  It's
something deeper, like a need for love.

The people activists paint as "evil empire" are comical, as in
literally something mythological and from a comic book.  They are
wizars behind a curtain with a loud booming voice.  The curtain is
main of the constitution and it faces their direction.  But if only
people would turn it towards themselves, they'd see the power of that
booming voice wither.

But then, so might the love...

Marxos

Re: Skrymions: Data storage breakthough

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 10:59:22 -0400
"\\0xDynamite"  wrote:

> I said it before.  Heavy industry amplifies human will.  High
> technology amplifies the mind.  They can amplify virtue or vice.

True, but not really what I am getting at. 

It seems to me that 'you guys' the cypherpunks/technology 
optimists have a naive or shallow understanding of the very 
technology you are selling or promoting. 




> Neither care.
> 
> Marx0s
> 
> On 4/12/17, juan  wrote:
> > On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:04:47 + (UTC)
> > jim bell  wrote:
> >
> >>> From: juan 
> >>> >better technology, better mass surveillance
> >
> >> That's a rather limited way to look at things.
> >
> >
> > Maybe limited, but do you think what I say is incorrect?
> >
> > Perhaps technology in general could be 'neutral' but it
> > is a fact that technology the way it is being implemented
> > right now shifts the balance of power away from individuals and
> > towards the military-industrial-government organizations.
> >
> >
> >> Let's consider:  Are
> >> we better off due to (computer and information) technology than,
> >> say, 1980?
> > 
> > Better off, regarding what? Has the ability of the
> > corporate-governmnet mafia to track its subject decreased,
> > or wildly increased?
> >
> >
> >> In 1980, home computers were little more than toys, and the
> >> Internet as the public now knows it was 15-20 years from existing.
> >>  News was provided by four national networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS)
> >> and local newspapers, with no effective competition.  People,
> >> generally, found it hard to talk (type) to each other, other than
> >> face-to-face speaking.
> >
> > Political activism has been carried using printed media for
> > a (long) while. Of course that same printed media has been mostly
> > subverted by  corporate-government madia. The fourth state
> > is a branch of government.
> >
> > But at least printed media technology could be used against
> > the government and it didn't allow the government to track people.
> > Books don't spy on you. The intershit does.
> >
> >
> >> If you simply accept all of the positives of the
> >> subsequent 37 years as a given, and then ignore them, and focus
> >> solely on what you see to be the negatives, yes, you will get
> >> conclusions like "better technology, better mass surveillance".
> >
> > No I don't think that's how the reckoning works.
> >
> > Do the current systems allow waaay better surveillanece of
> > subjects by the corporate-government mafia? The answer is
> > yes. Whatever alleged 'positives' there are (I don't think there are
> > any), the fact of better surveillance remains.
> >
> > It is a fact just like it is fact that central banks
> > counterfeit trillions and trillions of pseudo currency and
> > that enriches the government and corporate mafia.
> >
> >
> >> But
> >> one of the results of that technology was and is that we, the
> >> public, are far better able to monitor the actions of governments,
> >
> >
> > Where's the evidence for that claim?
> >
> >
> >> which
> >> ostensibly act in our name(s). OUR 'mass surveillance' of the
> >> governments is very, very valuable.
> >
> > It might be useful, if it existed. But it doesn't.
> >
> >
> >> I have no doubt that, for
> >> example, the Bush 43 administration got far more pushback on their
> >> actions than did the LBJ administration 1963-1969, in regards to
> >> the Vietnam war.
> >
> > I don't think there's any evidence for that sort of claim.
> >
> >
> >  And even more pushback in regards to Syria.  As, I
> >> think, it ought to be and needs to be. Jim Bell
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

[RUS] UNSC: "Look at me when I'm talking to you!" - Russia continues firm parenting fo juvenile West

2017-04-13 Thread Zenaan Harkness

Ahh Russia, diplomats of our heart, the gift of communication to the
world that keeps on giving.

And the world sorely needs a firm parent ... few would deny this sad,
sad fact.

Yes indeed, 2017 is turning into the comedy year of the century, and
Russia is centre stage (in a good way), delivering the whip crack of
common sense and decency to many.


One might expect this from ones parents, but no, this is Russia's deputy
United Nations ambassador Vladimir Safronkov delivering a stern finger
wag to UK ambassador Matthew Rycroft for his appalling lack of basic
human decency during a UNSC meeting:

> Look at me when I'm talking to you! Why are you looking away?

Rycroft evidently missed that memo when he was dragged up by his
parents.

  UK's Rycroft Avoids Eye Contact as Russia Shreds More Syria Lies at UN
  Security Council Meeting
  
http://russia-insider.com/en/moscow-vows-veto-assad-witch-hunt-resolution/ri19582


and Sergey "laying down parental law" Lavrov, as only he can do :)

  Sergey Lavrov tells shouting NBC reporter to mind her manners
  
http://theduran.com/must-watch-sergey-lavrov-tells-shouting-nbc-reporter-to-mind-her-manners/
> “Who was bringing you up? Who was giving you your manners?”
>
>> This is wild. The @StateDept press release from their meeting with
>> Sergey Lavrov begins with a reprimand


and continues to Outclass His American 'Guests', of course:
  
http://russia-insider.com/en/capitulation-rex-tillerson-authorizes-us-hacking-against-russian-war-targets-us-television-demands



At least the US is being a little more honest about its actions and
intentions these days:

  NYT just comes out and says it: US should partner with “territorial
  ISIS” to overthrow Assad
  
http://theduran.com/nyt-just-comes-out-and-says-it-us-should-partner-with-isis-to-overthrow-assad/


What a year.

Re: The Internet of Things will host devastating, unstoppable botnets

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 12:00:43 +
"J.R. Jones"  wrote:

 
> 
> You're a broken record.


you keep posting the same propaganda, you get the same reply
from me. Not my fault.

[tor-dev] Contents of tor-dev digest...

2017-04-13 Thread Kool Keith

> Mirimir mirimir at riseup.net
> Tue Apr 11 04:49:22 PDT 2017
> 
> connections through Tor ought to be traceable

They are, fucker:

globe.rndm.de
atlas.torproject.org
torflow.uncharted.software
collector.torproject.org

And I am sure there are more ways to track the goyim:

metrics.torproject.org
blog.torproject.org/category/tags/metrics
trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/teams/MetricsTeam
lists.torproject.org/pipermail/metrics-team/

And the tool used to study their efforts guised as the opposite:

ooni.torproject.org

You wouldn't be trying to trick the children that read this list in
the future, now, are you, vpnanon ?

TRUMP DON'T FUCKIN' PLAY

2017-04-13 Thread drkeiththornton

The United States dropped the largest non-nuclear bomb they got on
aintaint camp.  Two mile diameter of byebye.

Bye bye =(

Fwd: The Internet of Things will host devastating, unstoppable botnets

2017-04-13 Thread Kool Keith

> J.R. Jones mrjones2020 at gmail.com
> Thu Apr 13 05:00:43 PDT 2017
> 
> so

How many Mexican shills does it take to name the joo ?

Only Juan !
I wonder who is behind all of these posts ?

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|>
|
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|

Pirate Bay Peter Sunde "I Have Given Up"

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/pirate-bay-founder-peter-sunde-i-have-given-up
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14107262

The future of illegal torrent websites doesn't look good. As torrent
websites continue to disappear, the founder of The Pirate Bay believes
the trend is the just the beginning. While it might look like
torrenters are are still fighting this battle, Sunde claims that the
reality is more definitive: "We have already lost." [...] Take the net
neutrality law in Europe. It's terrible, but people are happy and go
like "it could be worse." That is absolutely not the right attitude.
Facebook brings the internet to Africa and poor countries, but they're
only giving limited access to their own services and make money off of
poor people. [...] Well, I have given up the idea that we can win this
fight for the internet. The situation is not going to be any
different, because apparently that is something people are not
interested in fixing. Or we can't get people to care enough. Maybe
it's a mixture, but this is kind of the situation we are in, so its
useless to do anything about it. We have become somehow the Black
Knight from Monty Python's Holy Grail. We have maybe half of our head
left and we are still fighting, we still think we have a chance of
winning this battle.

Peter Sunde recently on...
Why we need to fight for both transparency and privacy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMdv7R9aSU4
Film: "Snowden"
https://blog.brokep.com/2016/09/19/snowden-filmtal/
How The Internet Broke Politics, AnCap, etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjgql0ie6g

https://torrentfreak.com/

Re: Americans Flock to VPN's Under Fake ISP Privacy Guarantees

https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/
https://thatoneprivacysite.net/vpn-section/

Americans Flock to VPN's Under Fake ISP Privacy Guarantees

http://www.ibtimes.com/vpn-services-report-huge-increase-downloads-usage-broadband-privacy-rules-were-2524605

"A number of major VPN providers reported a significant increase in
subscriptions, downloads, and traffic from Americans since the U.S.
Congress voted to repeal the Broadband Consumer Privacy Rules that
would have mandated internet service providers get user permission
before collecting information. "Several popular VPN providers reported
a more than 50 percent increase in downloads." VPN provider ExpressVPN
said they "experienced a 105 percent increase in traffic from the U.S.
and a 97 percent spike in sales" since the repeal. Additionally,
"KeepSolid, the New York-based company behind VPNUnlimited, noted a 32
percent increase in purchases and growth of 49 percent in total
downloads," reports IBT. "The company also reports having a
considerable amount of increased engagement via social media regarding
user privacy.""

User's Netflix Habits Identified by Military

https://www.mjkranch.com/docs/CODASPY17_Kranch_Reed_IdentifyingHTTPSNetflix.pdf
https://threatpost.com/netflixs-https-update-cant-combat-passive-traffic-analysis-attacks/124954/
https://people.freebsd.org/~rrs/asiabsd_tls_improved.pdf
http://techblog.netflix.com/2016/08/protecting-netflix-viewing-privacy-at.html

Re: The Internet of Things will host devastating, unstoppable botnets

On 04/13/2017 10:55 AM, grarpamp wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>> Who said anything about state authorization?
> As everyone has said, the only way for your "not-for-profit venture"
> (registered corp or not) to break the law is for it to be a state authorized
> criminal itself. Otherwise it must operate anonymously, for which
> there is zero chance such anons will trend "not-for-profit" when there's
> clearly profit to be made.

If the device's creator in incommunicado that means avenues of legal
redress are gone. If their device is defective... doesn't perform as
advertised or violates the law (your right to privacy), you aren't
'breaking the law' by modifying the device because they've voided their
own contract with the consumer. Fly-by-nights have no patent
(copyright/etc) protection. SOMEONE has to own up to 'proprietorship',
and if 'owning up' means they get sued by a million people, or go to
prison, or get lynched, they are NOT going to claim any rights.

Rr

Re: The Internet of Things will host devastating, unstoppable botnets

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
> Who said anything about state authorization?

As everyone has said, the only way for your "not-for-profit venture"
(registered corp or not) to break the law is for it to be a state authorized
criminal itself. Otherwise it must operate anonymously, for which
there is zero chance such anons will trend "not-for-profit" when there's
clearly profit to be made.

Re: The Internet of Things will host devastating, unstoppable botnets

> the people who made the
> dildo with the camera that 'went live'. People make these things, grab
> what bucks they can from them, and vanish.

Would you say they... grabbed them by the pussy? Hmm...
Corporate digital voyeurism / rape? CEO's whacking off in the boardroom,
helpdesk sliming their keyboards? Cloud stored, swiss cheese privacy
policy full of data sharing with their "service partners" and 2257 distro?
Fake crypto?

Re: The Internet of Things will host devastating, unstoppable botnets

2017-04-13 Thread Kurt Buff

Who said anything about state authorization?

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:32 AM, grarpamp  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Razer  wrote:
>> Some makers don't respond.
>
> Then brick their products till they pay or fix their gear.
> No need for any state authorized "nonprofit" doing the exact same thing.

Re: The Internet of Things will host devastating, unstoppable botnets

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Razer  wrote:
> Some makers don't respond.

Then brick their products till they pay or fix their gear.
No need for any state authorized "nonprofit" doing the exact same thing.

New Hampshire Regulators Display Ignorance / Inconsistancy / FUD re Currencies / Regulation

http://www.coindesk.com/regulators-new-hampshires-bitcoin-msb-exemption/
http://www.coindesk.com/nh-money-transmission-exemption-bitcoin/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0LvoeOBrAY

State Regulators Blast New Hampshire's Bitcoin MSB Exemption
New Hampshire is weighing a bill to exempt bitcoin traders from money
transmission laws – and state officials are speaking out against the
measure.
Their argument centers on whether the government of New Hampshire
should take a proactive or reactive role in the regulation of money
transmitters within the state that use digital currency. The bill,
first proposed in mid-January, seeks to exempt "persons conducting
business using transactions conducted in whole or in part in virtual
currency" from money transmission statutes in the state.

Two holders on the Senate seem to have more knowledge than
even the legislative sponsor of the bill who can't manage to
answer any questions. Who the fuck is educating these people?
How hard are VC concepts to understand? Where are the Bitcoiners
in the lobby halls of legislatures? Yes there are some lightbulbs
out there, but there's much more work to do. Even the results you
want come easier if you weaken the opposition.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=new+hampshire+bitcoin

Re: Skrymions: Data storage breakthough

2017-04-13 Thread \0xDynamite

I said it before.  Heavy industry amplifies human will.  High
technology amplifies the mind.  They can amplify virtue or vice.
Neither care.

Marx0s

On 4/12/17, juan  wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:04:47 + (UTC)
> jim bell  wrote:
>
>>> From: juan 
>>> >better technology, better mass surveillance
>
>> That's a rather limited way to look at things.
>
>
>   Maybe limited, but do you think what I say is incorrect?
>
>   Perhaps technology in general could be 'neutral' but it
>   is a fact that technology the way it is being implemented right
>   now shifts the balance of power away from individuals and
>   towards the military-industrial-government organizations.
>
>
>> Let's consider:  Are
>> we better off due to (computer and information) technology than, say,
>> 1980?
>   
>   Better off, regarding what? Has the ability of the
>   corporate-governmnet mafia to track its subject decreased, or
>   wildly increased?
>
>
>> In 1980, home computers were little more than toys, and the
>> Internet as the public now knows it was 15-20 years from existing.
>>  News was provided by four national networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS) and
>> local newspapers, with no effective competition.  People, generally,
>> found it hard to talk (type) to each other, other than face-to-face
>> speaking.
>
>   Political activism has been carried using printed media for a
>   (long) while. Of course that same printed media has been mostly
>   subverted by  corporate-government madia. The fourth state is a
>   branch of government.
>
>   But at least printed media technology could be used against the
>   government and it didn't allow the government to track people.
>   Books don't spy on you. The intershit does.
>
>
>> If you simply accept all of the positives of the
>> subsequent 37 years as a given, and then ignore them, and focus
>> solely on what you see to be the negatives, yes, you will get
>> conclusions like "better technology, better mass surveillance".
>
>   No I don't think that's how the reckoning works.
>
>   Do the current systems allow waaay better surveillanece of
>   subjects by the corporate-government mafia? The answer is yes.
>   Whatever alleged 'positives' there are (I don't think there are
>   any), the fact of better surveillance remains.
>
>   It is a fact just like it is fact that central banks
>   counterfeit trillions and trillions of pseudo currency and that
>   enriches the government and corporate mafia.
>
>
>> But
>> one of the results of that technology was and is that we, the public,
>> are far better able to monitor the actions of governments,
>
>
>   Where's the evidence for that claim?
>
>
>> which
>> ostensibly act in our name(s). OUR 'mass surveillance' of the
>> governments is very, very valuable.
>
>   It might be useful, if it existed. But it doesn't.
>
>
>> I have no doubt that, for
>> example, the Bush 43 administration got far more pushback on their
>> actions than did the LBJ administration 1963-1969, in regards to the
>> Vietnam war.
>
>   I don't think there's any evidence for that sort of claim.
>
>
>  And even more pushback in regards to Syria.  As, I
>> think, it ought to be and needs to be. Jim Bell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: The Internet of Things will host devastating, unstoppable botnets

On 04/12/2017 11:11 PM, grarpamp wrote:
>> I foresee a not-for-profit venture that seeks out any and all devices
>> that aren't protected and seeks to permanently disable them.
> Pointless when you can write the maker and get them to
> pay you in anon VC's to brick the gear of their competitor.
> While you arrange the same deal with said competitor.
> Profit x 2.

Some makers don't respond. Notably and recently the people who made the
dildo with the camera that 'went live'. People make these things, grab
what bucks they can from them, and vanish.

Rr

Fwd: Re: Update: Dallas tornado alarm hack was a 'phreak' occurrence



On 04/13/2017 06:44 AM, lrk wrote:
>> - Forwarded message from Razer  -
>>
>> To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
>> From: Razer 
>> Subject: Update: Dallas tornado alarm hack was a 'phreak' occurrence
>> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 20:43:04 -0700
>>
>> Phone Phreaks!
>>
>>
>>> DTMF replay phreaked out the Dallas tornado alarm, say researchers
>>>
>>> Strap yourself into the DeLorean: researchers from Duo reckon the
>>> Dallas tornado alarm incident was a case of old-style DMTF phreaking.
>>>
>>> On Friday night, someone figured out how to activate all 156 of
>>> the city's sirens in a stunt hack.
>>>
>>> It turns out the sirens, from Federal Signal, use one of the
>>> oldest signalling techniques around: Dual Tone Multiple
>>> Frequencies, or DTMF, originating back in the analogue telephony
>>> era. The earliest phreaking attacks exploited the tones used to
>>> route phone calls to make free long-distance and international calls.
>>>
>>> For those who've never noticed the beeps that happen when you
>>> press buttons on a fixed-line phone, DMTF represents its symbols
>>> with pairs of beeps in this layout:
>>>
>>> [Image: DMTF tone chart from Wikipedia]
>>>
>>> Telephone network have long been secured against phreaking, but
>>> apparently not the Federal Signal sirens in Dallas. It looks like
>>> the system was set off by a simple replay attack: record the
>>> signal sent during a system test, and play it back.
>>>
>>> Duo's blog post notes that the DMTF signals, carried over 450 MHz
>>> radio carriers, aren't encrypted, so an attacker wouldn't even
>>> need to try and interpret the symbols.
>>>
>>> The other big compromise, according to Duo, was that someone got
>>> access to the computers that control how long the sirens would
>>> sound when they were activated. That compromise also made it
>>> harder for city officials to shut the system down. ??
>>>
>>> Bootnote: Duo is surprised that the attacker was able to work out
>>> the radio frequency in use, which sits oddly with the author's
>>> theory that a disgruntled insider is the most likely attacker.
>>>
>>> The Register notes that an insider would probably know what
>>> frequency the system used, and 450 MHz is in a band familiar with
>>> UHF hobbyists. If the sirens' radio used licenced bands, the FCC
>>> has the database online.
>>>
>>> Even for the 700 MHz band, reserved for public safety in the USA,
>>> it's easy enough to buy suitable transmitters.
> FYI, tone systems like touch-tone don't work over digital voice. Those
> synthesizer systems will not recreate the tones accurately. Trunked systems
> have other engineering problems which make them the wrong tool for public
> safety but the only thing that counts is that Motorola got the taxpayer's
> money.
>
>

And the sound of a snare drum, high hat, cymbals, oboe, etc, has never
been the same since 'music went square  wave' either. Odd that digitized
DTMF tones shouldn't work. No frequency component to any of them so high
that is should matter. What I find strange is there's a set of 'outband'
tones, not normally used for civilian communication that police and fire
departments have used historically to prevent intruders into their
communications systems. Dallas must have cheaped the contractor
installing the system.

Rr

Fwd: The Internet of Things will host devastating, unstoppable botnets

2017-04-13 Thread J.R. Jones

-- Forwarded message -
From: juan 
Date: Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 06:38
Subject: Re: The Internet of Things will host devastating, unstoppable
botnets
To: 


On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 04:18:10 -0600
Mirimir  wrote:

> On 04/12/2017 06:35 PM, Razer wrote:
> > Bwahahahahahaaahackcoughgasp-wheze!
>
> | Abstract: Within the next few years, billions of IoT devices
> | will densely populate our cities. In this paper we describe a
> | new type of threat in which adjacent IoT devices will infect
> | each other with a worm that will spread explosively over large
> | areas in a kind of nuclear chain reaction,


so mirimir posts the same kind of pentagon garbage that
rayzer-schneier post. Just what one would expect from tor-bots


You're a broken record.

Re: The Internet of Things will host devastating, unstoppable botnets

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 04:18:10 -0600
Mirimir  wrote:

> On 04/12/2017 06:35 PM, Razer wrote:
> > Bwahahahahahaaahackcoughgasp-wheze!
> 
> | Abstract: Within the next few years, billions of IoT devices
> | will densely populate our cities. In this paper we describe a
> | new type of threat in which adjacent IoT devices will infect
> | each other with a worm that will spread explosively over large
> | areas in a kind of nuclear chain reaction,


so mirimir posts the same kind of pentagon garbage that
rayzer-schneier post. Just what one would expect from tor-bots

Re: The Internet of Things will host devastating, unstoppable botnets

2017-04-13 Thread Mirimir

On 04/12/2017 06:35 PM, Razer wrote:
> Bwahahahahahaaahackcoughgasp-wheze!

| Abstract: Within the next few years, billions of IoT devices
| will densely populate our cities. In this paper we describe a
| new type of threat in which adjacent IoT devices will infect
| each other with a worm that will spread explosively over large
| areas in a kind of nuclear chain reaction, provided that the
| density of compatible IoT devices exceeds a certain critical
| mass. In particular, we developed and verified such an
| infection using the popular Philips Hue smart lamps as a
| platform. The worm spreads by jumping directly from one lamp
| to its neighbors, using only their built-in ZigBee wireless
| connectivity and their physical proximity. The attack can
| start by plugging in a single infected bulb anywhere in the
| city, and then catastrophically spread everywhere within
| minutes, enabling the attacker to turn all the city lights
| on or off, permanently brick them, or exploit them in a
| massive DDOS attack. To demonstrate the risks involved, we
| use results from percolation theory to estimate the critical
| mass of installed devices for a typical city such as Paris
| whose area is about 105 square kilometers: The chain reaction
| will fizzle if there are fewer than about 15,000 randomly
| located smart lights in the whole city, but will spread
| everywhere when the number exceeds this critical mass
| (which had almost certainly been surpassed already).

https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/1047

>> Bruce Schneier takes to the pages of Technology Review to remind us
>> all that while botnets have been around for a long time, the Internet
>> of Things is supercharging them, thanks to insecurity by design.
>>
>> Botnets are useful for denial of service attacks, but they're also an
>> indispensable part of the spam ecosystem, clickfraud, extortion, and
>> other bad news.
>>
>> Cheap IoT gadgets are manufactured by absentee proprietors and large,
>> respected companies who ignore urgent warnings about their defects (or
>> punish people who complain by remote-bricking their gadgets), leading
>> to nightmarish breaches.
>>
>> Worse, IoT manufacturers use antiquated DRM laws to threaten security
>> researchers who reveal the defects in their products with brutal
>> lawsuits and even jail-time (and this will be a risk for any device
>> controlled by a browser).
>>
>>> . Once you know a botnet exists, you can attack its
>>> command-and-control system. When botnets were rare, this tactic was
>>> effective. As they get more common, this piecemeal defense will
>>> become less so. You can also secure yourself against the effects of
>>> botnets. For example, several companies sell defenses against
>>> denial-of-service attacks. Their effectiveness varies, depending on
>>> the severity of the attack and the type of service.
>>>
>>> But overall, the trends favor the attacker. Expect more attacks
>>> like the one against Dyn in the coming year. 
>>
>>
>> Botnets of Things [Bruce Schneier/MIT Technology Review] 
> 
> 
> Clickthru boingx2 (some other links on-page):
> http://boingboing.net/2017/04/12/forever-day-bugs-2.html
> 
> 
>

Russian FOSS activist arrested for extremist materials/Tor exit-node

2017-04-13 Thread stargrave

Dmitry Bogatov was arrested on the 6th of April: he became part of the
big penal case initiated by Russia’s Investigation Committee on
"incitations to mass riots" during the protest action that took place on
the 2nd of April in Moscow. According to the Investigation Committee,
Bogatov was publishing messages on the forum sysadmin.ru, inciting to
violent actions, for example, "he" was suggesting to bring to the Red
Square "bottles, fabric, gasoline, turpentine, foam plastic". According
to the Investigation, the experts had analyzed the text of these
messages and proved a "linguistic and psychological characteristics of
incitations to terrorism". However, Dmitry claims that he has nothing to
do with posting the incendiary messages.

Dmitry Bogatov, 25 years old, teaches maths in MFUA (Moscow Finance and
Law University) was a free and open source software activist
(https://sinsekvu.github.io/pages/about.html).
Dmitry was administrating a Tor exit node
(https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/2402CD5A0D848D1DCA61EB708CC1FBD4364AB8AE)
from his house. In fact, the author of "incendiary messages" (called
"Airat Bashirov") was using Tor, and, by lack of chance, he used the ip
adress of Dmitry's exit node.

Dmitry's lawyer, Alexei Teptsov, presented videos from surveillance
cameras, that proved that, during the moments when the "incendiary
messages" were posted, Dmitry was away from his computer. He was coming
back from a fitness center with his wife, Tatiana, a genetician, and
then went to a supermarket, where cameras were also working. Moreover,
"Airat Bashirov", the author of the provocative messages, continues to
post on sysadmin.ru, while Dmitry is under arrest. The last post was
seen on the forum on April 11.

Dmitry will stay in pre-trial detention center until June 8 at least.
Now the Investigation is examining all his seized devices.

Dmitry Bogatov aka KAction, Russian free software activist and
mathematics teacher at Moscow’s Finance and Law University, arrested in
Russia and charged with extremism.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14096625
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2017/04/10/mathematics-teacher-accused-of-inciting-mass-riots-now-also-accused-of-supporting-terrorism-and-once-again-detained
https://geektimes.ru/post/287944/ (russian)

Re: The Internet of Things will host devastating, unstoppable botnets

On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 23:46:10 -0700
Kurt Buff  wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:20 PM, grarpamp  wrote:
> >> I foresee a not-for-profit venture that seeks out any and all
> >> devices that aren't protected and seeks to permanently disable
> >> them.
> >
> > Would also break every tort, damaging, conspiracy to commit, and
> > computer crime law on the books, and get itself shutdown,
> > prosecuted, and sued for loss of and so on.
> 
> Since when has that stopped those who believe they are the righteous?


I'm not following. By "not-for-profit venture"  you mean the
cunts from the state?

Re: FreeBSD

2017-04-13 Thread Kurt Buff

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:35 PM, grarpamp  wrote:
> FreeBSD: Not a Linux Distro
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwbO4eTieQY
>
> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=freebsd+raspberry+pi

Somewhat dated, but still relevant:
http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/01

Re: The Internet of Things will host devastating, unstoppable botnets

2017-04-13 Thread Kurt Buff

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:20 PM, grarpamp  wrote:
>> I foresee a not-for-profit venture that seeks out any and all devices
>> that aren't protected and seeks to permanently disable them.
>
> Would also break every tort, damaging, conspiracy to commit, and
> computer crime law on the books, and get itself shutdown, prosecuted,
> and sued for loss of and so on.

Since when has that stopped those who believe they are the righteous?

Re: The Internet of Things will host devastating, unstoppable botnets