Re: The Zen White Paper

[grarpamp]

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Joshua  wrote:
> Excellent! Get ready to see a flood of Bitcoin emerging in physical form.

If the internet is up, so will be the overlay darknets, wifi, and
wiring closets.
Thus VC's will be movable among peers, mining routes will exist, etc.

> Personally I really like what these folks are doing: https://opendime.com/

They're cool. But... seems to be of actual use you need a CPU+USB+OS
and internet with current blockchain to verify them, as visual tampers are
easily faked, and people go blind at surface mount. And they cost $10
times however many you hold / give. When $100 will already buy said
CPU+USB+OS+internet, and piles of utxo keys.

More work needs done before VC's can run over sneakernet.

Re: Snowden defends Comey

[Steve Kinney]

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On 05/12/2017 12:35 AM, Marina Brown wrote:
> On 05/11/2017 09:24 PM, Mirimir wrote:
>> On 05/11/2017 12:34 PM, \0xDynamite wrote:
 OTOH, Chelsea Manning,
>>> 
>>> You mean, Bradley Manning?

[ ... ]

> It's really sad that cypherpunks has become infested with
> alt-right maggots. I came back after almost 15 years absence in the
> hope to hear good cypherpunk stuff and talk of how to resist
> eavesdroppers and big brother with cryptography.
> 
> But the years have twisted former social libertarians into
> apologists for authority and oppression.
> 
> I've plonked most but can't filter out the replys.
> 
> I guess that is what insecurity about privilege does to some.

When Chelsea's transgender thing came out in the news, a lot of very
vocal supporters walked away mumbling about how it just couldn't be
possible.  Just to fuck with them, I started posting this around under
the tagline, "In my opinion, whatever Chelsea wants, Chelsea gets."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSKJy2UZFfI

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Re: Snowden defends Comey

[Steve Kinney]

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On 05/11/2017 07:42 PM, Razer wrote:
> 
> 
> On 05/11/2017 04:32 PM, juan wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 May 2017 13:27:44 -0400 Steve Kinney
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> I think of Snowden as victim of circumstances controlled by
>>> others, and very possibly an unwitting agent selected from a
>>> pool of candidates provided by the Insider Threat Program.  Am
>>> I the only one who has noticed that every real-world
>>> consequence of The Snowden Affair has benefited his former
>>> employers?
>> 
>> Well, I certainly noticed that after Snowden's 'disclosures' the 
>> pentagon and friends got even more aggressive and the global 
>> american cyber police state more entrenched.
>> 
>> I don't know if Snowden was just a pawn in that game though. I 
>> guess it's possible.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> Just because you're intelligent doesn't mean you can't be a 'useful
> idiot'.

By his own account, Snowden was a malcontent who was told by his
office mates to shut up and ignore illegal activities. Whether he came
to the attention of the Insider Threat Program or other CI programs is
a question of how "good" they are at doing their jobs.





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Re: Snowden defends Comey

[Marina Brown]

On 05/11/2017 09:24 PM, Mirimir wrote:
> On 05/11/2017 12:34 PM, \0xDynamite wrote:
>>> OTOH, Chelsea Manning,
>>
>> You mean, Bradley Manning?
> 
> People can change their names, bro.
> 
>>> I suspect, due to her involvement
>>
>> HIS involvement.
> 
> Gender assignment represents the imposition of a binary distinction on a
> complex multidimensional space. At the genetic level, XXY, XXXY, XXX,
> XYY and XYYY are possible. People may have both male and female gonads
> and sex organs at birth, and typically get surgery to male or female,
> depending on genetics, cultural preferences and surgical feasibility.
> Maternal hormonal environment during gestation, both idiopathic and
> iatrogenic, also affect sexual development.
> 
> So anyway, changing gender identity is sometimes the best option. Versus
> faking it as whatever circumstances provided.
> 
> Also, what's your standing to have an opinion about another's personal
> choices?
> 
>>> of the Crazy Horse 18 helicopter gunship assassination of a stringer for
>>> Reuters, the wounding of another, and the better part of a civilian
>>> family who came to assist too, may be not so much a "patriot" anymore.
>>
>> Sounds like fake news.
> 
> No, it sounds like war, featuring young grunts who have been trained to
> depersonalize the enemy. If in doubt, they kill 'em all.
> 
>> \0x
>>
> 

It's really sad that cypherpunks has become infested with alt-right
maggots. I came back after almost 15 years absence in the hope to hear
good cypherpunk stuff and talk of how to resist eavesdroppers and big
brother with cryptography.

But the years have twisted former social libertarians into apologists
for authority and oppression.

I've plonked most but can't filter out the replys.

I guess that is what insecurity about privilege does to some.



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Keylogger Found in Audio Driver of HP Laptops

[Razer]

H/t @Liberationtech @twitter
https://twitter.com/Liberationtech/status/862849917806661634
>
> The audio driver installed on some HP laptops includes a feature that
> could best be described as a keylogger, which records all the user's
> keystrokes and saves the information to a local file, accessible to
> anyone or any third-party software or malware that knows where to look.
>
> Swiss cyber-security firm modzero discovered the keylogger on April 28
> and made its findings public today.
> Keylogger found in preinstalled audio driver
>
> According to researchers, the keylogger feature was discovered in the
> Conexant HD Audio Driver Package version 1.0.0.46 and earlier.
>
> This is an audio driver that is preinstalled on HP laptops. One of the
> files of this audio driver is MicTray64.exe
> (C:\windows\system32\mictray64.exe).
>
> This file is registered to start via a Scheduled Task every time the
> user logs into his computer. According to modzero researchers, the
> file "monitors all keystrokes made by the user to capture and react to
> functions such as microphone mute/unmute keys/hotkeys."
>
> This behavior, by itself, is not a problem, as many other apps work
> this way. The problem is that this file writes all keystrokes to a
> local file at:
>
> C:\users\public\MicTray.log
>
> Audio driver also exposes keystrokes in real-time via local API
>
> If the file doesn't exist or a registry key containing this file's
> path does not exist or was corrupted, the audio driver will pass all
> keystrokes to a local API, named the OutputDebugString API.
>
> The danger is that malicious software installed on the computer, or a
> person with physical access to the computer, can copy the log file and
> have access to historical keystroke data, from where he can extract
> passwords, chat logs, visited URLs, source code, or any other
> sensitive data.
>
> Furthermore, the OutputDebugString API provides a covert channel for
> malware to record real-time keystrokes without using native Windows
> functions, usually under the watchful eye of antivirus software.
> Keylogger feature confirmed in HP laptops
>
> Modzero researchers said they found the Conexant HD Audio Driver
> Package preinstalled on 28 HP laptop models. Other hardware that uses
> this driver may also be affected, but investigators haven't officially
> confirmed that the issue affects other manufacturers.
>
>HP EliteBook 820 G3 Notebook PC
>HP EliteBook 828 G3 Notebook PC
>HP EliteBook 840 G3 Notebook PC
>HP EliteBook 848 G3 Notebook PC
>HP EliteBook 850 G3 Notebook PC
>HP ProBook 640 G2 Notebook PC
>HP ProBook 650 G2 Notebook PC
>HP ProBook 645 G2 Notebook PC
>HP ProBook 655 G2 Notebook PC
>HP ProBook 450 G3 Notebook PC
>HP ProBook 430 G3 Notebook PC
>HP ProBook 440 G3 Notebook PC
>HP ProBook 446 G3 Notebook PC
>HP ProBook 470 G3 Notebook PC
>HP ProBook 455 G3 Notebook PC
>HP EliteBook 725 G3 Notebook PC
>HP EliteBook 745 G3 Notebook PC
>HP EliteBook 755 G3 Notebook PC
>HP EliteBook 1030 G1 Notebook PC
>HP ZBook 15u G3 Mobile Workstation
>HP Elite x2 1012 G1 Tablet
>HP Elite x2 1012 G1 with Travel Keyboard
>HP Elite x2 1012 G1 Advanced Keyboard
>HP EliteBook Folio 1040 G3 Notebook PC
>HP ZBook 17 G3 Mobile Workstation
>HP ZBook 15 G3 Mobile Workstation
>HP ZBook Studio G3 Mobile Workstation
>HP EliteBook Folio G1 Notebook PC
>
> The Conexant HD Audio Driver Package has versions for the following
> operating systems.
>
>Microsoft Windows 10 32-Bit
>Microsoft Windows 10 64-Bit
>Microsoft Windows 10 IOT Enterprise 32-Bit (x86)
>Microsoft Windows 10 IOT Enterprise 64-Bit (x86)
>Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise 32 Edition
>Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise 64 Edition
>Microsoft Windows 7 Home Basic 32 Edition
>Microsoft Windows 7 Home Basic 64 Edition
>Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Edition
>Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Edition
>Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 32 Edition
>Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 Edition
>Microsoft Windows 7 Starter 32 Edition
>Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Edition
>Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Edition
>Microsoft Windows Embedded Standard 7 32
>Microsoft Windows Embedded Standard 7E 32-Bit
>
> HP did not respond to a request for comment from Bleeping Computer in
> time for this article's publication.
>
> Here's how to Check for and Remove the HP MicTray64 Keylogger...
>

BleepingComputer:
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/keylogger-found-in-audio-driver-of-hp-laptops/

Re: Snowden defends Comey

[Mirimir]

On 05/11/2017 12:34 PM, \0xDynamite wrote:
>> OTOH, Chelsea Manning,
> 
> You mean, Bradley Manning?

People can change their names, bro.

>> I suspect, due to her involvement
> 
> HIS involvement.

Gender assignment represents the imposition of a binary distinction on a
complex multidimensional space. At the genetic level, XXY, XXXY, XXX,
XYY and XYYY are possible. People may have both male and female gonads
and sex organs at birth, and typically get surgery to male or female,
depending on genetics, cultural preferences and surgical feasibility.
Maternal hormonal environment during gestation, both idiopathic and
iatrogenic, also affect sexual development.

So anyway, changing gender identity is sometimes the best option. Versus
faking it as whatever circumstances provided.

Also, what's your standing to have an opinion about another's personal
choices?

>> of the Crazy Horse 18 helicopter gunship assassination of a stringer for
>> Reuters, the wounding of another, and the better part of a civilian
>> family who came to assist too, may be not so much a "patriot" anymore.
> 
> Sounds like fake news.

No, it sounds like war, featuring young grunts who have been trained to
depersonalize the enemy. If in doubt, they kill 'em all.

> \0x
> 

Re: What is the value of the State?

[juan]

On Thu, 11 May 2017 18:48:02 -0500
"\\0xDynamite"  wrote:

> >> > Those pushing the anthropomorphic climate change agenda never,
> >> > AFAIK, ever admit that this view is ONLY consensus (based on data
> >> > and models) but not independently verifiable via the Scientific
> >> > Method, the gold standard for science.
> >>
> >> You're talking in circles.  What do you suppose the scientific
> >> method is, genius?
> >
> > As it happens, I, unlike you, know that the
> > scientific method is based on experimentation and trial and
> > error applied to SMALL CLOSED SYSTEMS in a REPEATABLE
> > FASHION. Exactly what you CANNOT do with the atmosphere.
> >
> > But really, talking to a lawyer, theocrat, statist, quack
> > doctor and now enviro, while the titanic is sinking is
> > kinda...pointless.
> 
> Especially when you're emotionally invested.  Obviously you're
> emotional about it.


Emotional about what? You mean I don't want to be ruled by
idiots (like you) - or by anybody actually? Yep, I am
'emotional' about that.


>  So just deal with that, rather than pretend.

Pretend what? 


> 
> But onto your point and logical claim.  No, the scientific method is
> NOT about "small, closed systems" in a "repeatable fashion".  REPEAT:
> NOT about that.


Sure sure. I forgot you got your education from the Bible.
Carry on. 

> 
> So anything else you wish to surprise us with, poo-holer?
> 
> \0x

Re: What is the value of the State?

[\0xDynamite]

>> > Those pushing the anthropomorphic climate change agenda never,
>> > AFAIK, ever admit that this view is ONLY consensus (based on data
>> > and models) but not independently verifiable via the Scientific
>> > Method, the gold standard for science.
>>
>> You're talking in circles.  What do you suppose the scientific method
>> is, genius?
>
>   As it happens, I, unlike you, know that the
>   scientific method is based on experimentation and trial and
>   error applied to SMALL CLOSED SYSTEMS in a REPEATABLE FASHION.
>   Exactly what you CANNOT do with the atmosphere.
>
>   But really, talking to a lawyer, theocrat, statist, quack
>   doctor and now enviro, while the titanic is sinking is
>   kinda...pointless.

Especially when you're emotionally invested.  Obviously you're
emotional about it.  So just deal with that, rather than pretend.

But onto your point and logical claim.  No, the scientific method is
NOT about "small, closed systems" in a "repeatable fashion".  REPEAT:
NOT about that.

So anything else you wish to surprise us with, poo-holer?

\0x

Re: Snowden defends Comey

[Razer]

On 05/11/2017 04:32 PM, juan wrote:
> On Thu, 11 May 2017 13:27:44 -0400
> Steve Kinney  wrote:
>
>
>> I think of Snowden as victim of circumstances controlled by others,
>> and very possibly an unwitting agent selected from a pool of
>> candidates provided by the Insider Threat Program.  Am I the only one
>> who has noticed that every real-world consequence of The Snowden
>> Affair has benefited his former employers?
>
>   Well, I certainly noticed that after Snowden's 'disclosures' the
>   pentagon and friends got even more aggressive and the global
>   american cyber police state more entrenched. 
>
>   I don't know if Snowden was just a pawn in that game though. I
>   guess it's possible.
>
>


Just because you're intelligent doesn't mean you can't be a 'useful idiot'.

Rr

Re: What is the value of the State?

[juan]

On Thu, 11 May 2017 18:10:51 -0500
"\\0xDynamite"  wrote:

> > Those pushing the anthropomorphic climate change agenda never,
> > AFAIK, ever admit that this view is ONLY consensus (based on data
> > and models) but not independently verifiable via the Scientific
> > Method, the gold standard for science.
> 
> You're talking in circles.  What do you suppose the scientific method
> is, genius?


Aw poor dynamite. As it happens, I, unlike you, know that the
scientific method is based on experimentation and trial and
error applied to SMALL CLOSED SYSTEMS in a REPEATABLE FASHION.
Exactly what you CANNOT do with the atmosphere. 

But really, talking to a lawyer, theocrat, statist, quack
doctor and now enviro, while the titanic is sinking is
kinda...pointless.






> 
> \0x

Re: What is the value of the State?

[Steven Schear]

The Scientific Method requires that experiments with controlled initial
conditions be conducted. If a field of science is such , as in cosmology or
climatology, that such experiments cannot be conducted then this is a
"soft" science whose "truth" can never exceed opinion, which is politics.

Warrant Canary creator

On May 11, 2017 4:10 PM, "\0xDynamite"  wrote:

> > Those pushing the anthropomorphic climate change agenda never, AFAIK,
> ever
> > admit that this view is ONLY consensus (based on data and models) but not
> > independently verifiable via the Scientific Method, the gold standard for
> > science.
>
> You're talking in circles.  What do you suppose the scientific method
> is, genius?
>
> \0x
>

Re: Snowden defends Comey

[\0xDynamite]

> OTOH, Chelsea Manning,

You mean, Bradley Manning?

> I suspect, due to her involvement

HIS involvement.

> in the leaking
> of the Crazy Horse 18 helicopter gunship assassination of a stringer for
> Reuters, the wounding of another, and the better part of a civilian
> family who came to assist too, may be not so much a "patriot" anymore.

Sounds like fake news.
\0x

Re: What is the value of the State?

[\0xDynamite]

On 5/9/17, James A. Donald  wrote:
> On 2017-05-08 22:39, \0xDynamite wrote:
>> Given the website you cited, I think YOU are cherry picking your
>> methodology.
>
> I link to a cite

The word is "site" and it's a bullshit, non-scientific site.

>  that shows scientists forging data to manufacture
> global warming alarm:
> https://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/08/the-smoking-gun-at-darwin-zero/

...with a title that already pushes the conclusion...

> Where is cherry picking?

Where is your real concern?  Truth or victory?

\0x


>> I'll make this simple, dumbasses.  You don't need ANY evidence to
>> conclude LOGICALLY and NECESSARY that billions of years of fossil fuel
>> burned in 400 years of industrialism is going to have MASSIVE effects.
>
> You are innumerate.  Human activity, compared to natural forces, is like
> a gnat farting.

False.  And "innumerate" would mean what?  Human activity multiplied
by 6 billion is not a gnat farting.  Do you see how you just want to
win?  This example is so childish, you might as well stick your head
in your ass.  You'll at least get some data.

\0x

Re: What is the value of the State?

[\0xDynamite]

> Those pushing the anthropomorphic climate change agenda never, AFAIK, ever
> admit that this view is ONLY consensus (based on data and models) but not
> independently verifiable via the Scientific Method, the gold standard for
> science.

You're talking in circles.  What do you suppose the scientific method
is, genius?

\0x

Re: What is the value of the State?

[juan]

On Mon, 8 May 2017 16:15:58 -0700
Steven Schear  wrote:

> From that reply I will assume you have nit read the book.

whether I read the book or not doesn't change the fact that the
assholes behind mises.org are a bunch of conservative fascists
posing as 'libertarian'

> 
> Warrant Canary creator
> 
> On May 8, 2017 4:12 PM, "juan"  wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 8 May 2017 15:59:11 -0700
> > Steven Schear  wrote:
> >
> > >> Mises.org
> >
> > conservative fascists posing as 'libertarian'
> >
> >

Re: Snowden defends Comey

[Steven Schear]

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/05/no_author/blaming-russia-rather-saudi-arabia-israel/

Warrant Canary creator

On May 11, 2017 6:40 AM, "John Newman"  wrote:

> https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/862069019301601281
>
> "This FBI Director has sought for years to jail me on account of
> my political activities. If I can oppose his firing, so can you."
>
>
>
> John
>

Re: Snowden defends Comey

[juan]

On Thu, 11 May 2017 09:39:54 -0400
John Newman  wrote:

> https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/862069019301601281
> 
> "This FBI Director has sought for years to jail me on account of
> my political activities. If I can oppose his firing, so can you."

snowden is losing it. 


by chance just saw this 

http://www.coindesk.com/james-comey-fbi-virtual-currencies/



"Some of our criminal investigators face the challenge
of identifying online pedophiles who hide their crimes
and identities behind layers of anonymizing
technologies, or drug traffickers who use virtual
currencies to obscure their transactions."


so yeah, all good people must defend poor comey - he's a victim
of the system


> 
> 
> 
> John 

Re: Snowden defends Comey

[Steve Kinney]

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On 05/11/2017 11:26 AM, Razer wrote:
> 
> 
> On 05/11/2017 06:39 AM, John Newman wrote:
>> https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/862069019301601281
>> 
>> "This FBI Director has sought for years to jail me on account of 
>> my political activities. If I can oppose his firing, so can
>> you."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> John
> 
> Snowden is an "All-American Boy" who thinks he's doing his
> patriotic duty by leaking and LUVS the American Gestapo (as long as
> they aren't killing him and burying him in a shallow
> alligator-filled Florida ditch.)

I think of Snowden as victim of circumstances controlled by others,
and very possibly an unwitting agent selected from a pool of
candidates provided by the Insider Threat Program.  Am I the only one
who has noticed that every real-world consequence of The Snowden
Affair has benefited his former employers?

Snowden's freedom of action ended when he handed Glen Greenwald a
collection of documents that brought in $250 million when Greenwald
shopped them around.  From that time forward Ed has been a prisoner in
a portable cage, because for reasons known only to himself he decided
to sign his name vs. concealing his identity.  Lest we forget, Chelsea
Manning was only busted because she said too much to a snitch - and Ed
certainly knew that.

The first thing the Snowden docs were used for was to open up NSA
domestic network surveillance as an issue for Congress to settle.
They did so by allowing it to continue, and in the process established
that lying to Congress under oath is not a crime if the DCI does it.
There are huge advantages in picking the time and place of a fight in
advance and preparing in depth before making "the other guy" start it.

The second thing the Snowden docs were used for was to keep the
Manning trial out of the news.  Greenwald reportedly fought with his
editors to move the publication date up to coincide with the first day
of Manning's trial.  They did so and the result was "Chelsea who?  Oh,
that's over and done with ages ago."

The only real damage the Snowden Docs did to State interests was not
done by them at all:  The popular press falsely attributes leaked NSA
docs originating in Germany, i.e. the one that revealed Merkel's
phones were tapped, to Snowden.

:o/


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Re: Angry Good Germans demand reinstatement of Gestapo chief

[Razer]

On 05/11/2017 09:30 AM, Steven Schear wrote:
> If these manipulated and quasi-radicalized Muslims were smarter they
> would plan a lethal surprise for their handlers as
> AleksandrSolzhenitsyn suggested for the Soviet security people.
>
> Warrant Canary creator

The FBI preens Useful (literally) Idiots for this sort of thing. When
they don't, they have some fabrication to do.

For instance I wonder if they ever found the "laptop in the lake" from
that Muslim couple who shot up a SoCal bureaucrat party a few years ago?
The husband had been having some trouble previously with one of the
employees in attendance regarding his beard if I remember correctly and
it seems the feds and media managed to create a 'terror plot' from a
plain-vanilla workplace shooting simply because 'Mericans fuggotaboutit...

But about those useful idiots. "Tremble the Devil" a former DoD
counter-terror specialist wrote that up a few years ago.


He starts like this:

>
> It’s generally a bad idea to leave the keys to your getaway car inside
> of the carbomb you’ve just rigged with fireworks, three propane tanks,
> a couple 5-gallon jugs of gasoline, and 100 pounds of explosive
> fertilizer.
>
> Makes it kind of hard to get home.
>
> Wait wait, make that non-explosive fertilizer actually – because
> you’re too stupid to bother googling what kinds of fertilizer actually
> blow up.  
>
> Plus, what makes it even harder to get home is also locking your house
> keys inside of the same carbomb. 
>
> And it’s probably an ever worse idea to release a YouTube video
> claiming responsibility for the attack before it even happens…
> especially when your attack hinges on a bunch of fireworks left in a
> bucket igniting a bunch of explosive material that’s not even exposed
> to the air.
>
> But that was the modus operandi for Faisal Shahzad, just one in a long
> line of really, really stupid terrorists.
>
> For reasons that’ll soon grow obvious, after the successful execution
> of an FBI sting against a group of ex-cons who’d converted to radical
> Islam in prison last summer, one of the media’s favorite quotes has
> been that at least one of the men is “intellectually challenged"...

http://tremblethedevil.com/?p=732

(He includes a very funny riff about the Hashisheens as one of the five)


Also see this. One of the better expositions on how the War on Drugs is
ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY Racist "Class War"

>
> A lot happened in 1973.
>
> It was a few years after Nixon slammed the gold window shut, the
> waning hours of a decapitated Civil Rights movement, and the year we
> began to disentangle ourselves from Vietnam. But it also marks the
> genesis of the War on Drugs: the year the Rockefeller Drug Laws were
> passed. And that same year something funny happened: the income gap
> between black and white began to widen back out, instead of closing –
> as it had been up until 1973.

http://tremblethedevil.com/?p=3523


>
> On May 11, 2017 9:10 AM, "Razer"  > wrote:
>
> Angry "Good Germans" demand reinstatement of Gestapo chief James Comey
> at a "James Comey Is Fired Party" outside The White House.
>
> https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/862651365801074688
> 
>
> The FBI is a Clear and Present Danger to 'American Democracy' (if
> such a
> thing exists at all) no matter which murderous creep runs it. They
> completely fabricate Terror Plots, including the planning, and
> logistics
> of supplying weapons and explosives, to frame innocent Muslims who
> would
> have never done such a thing without intense pressure from their
> operatives, and spy on US citizens for the NSA via their Data
> Intercept
> Technology Unit. They are the sole organization that investigates
> their
> own agent's murder of civilians. The FBI IS the American Gestapo, and
> 'Mericans are ANGRY their operations have been disturbed.
>
> Rr
>
>

Re: The Zen White Paper

[Steven Schear]

Government regulation of cryptocurrencies (and Bitcoin in particular) will
have a similar result to regulatory capture.

A major missing element to thwart this is a well-conceived, widely adopted,
and open technology that offers trust without government. I propose
Open-Transactions.

The other missing leg to the cryptocurrency chair are independently issued
but verifiable and trusted fiat tokens. Once widely adopted exchangers need
not have bank accounts nor operate as licensed corporations.

Warrant Canary creator

On May 11, 2017 1:30 AM, "grarpamp"  wrote:

> The only real gamble is estimating regulation.
> The rest can be routed around through markets, diversify, distributed.
> Regulation in most sane places comes with public notice.
> Even therein, or even as a game, there is money to be had.
> Players know this, and their chips are often leisure money.
> But it is money... $53B of it in the top100 market cap.
> That will not sit quietly when faced with a $0'ing regulation proposition.
>
> Whatever you believe, and whether or not you're in,
> the history to date makes people seem a bit foolish
> to *not* redirect their next pointless discretionary
> purchase worth into it... cable tv, pizza, beer, cigs,
> weed, high brand products, whatever crap. Worst
> case it's another pointless buy down the drain.
> Best case... moon, adoption even.
>

Re: Angry Good Germans demand reinstatement of Gestapo chief

[Steve Kinney]

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On 05/11/2017 12:09 PM, Razer wrote:
> Angry "Good Germans" demand reinstatement of Gestapo chief James
> Comey at a "James Comey Is Fired Party" outside The White House.

More likely, angry knee jerk reactionary Yellow Dog Democrats.  Comey
became their champion when he gave Hillary Clinton a free pass after
an FBI investigation determined that she had a habit of removing
classification markings from documents before forwarding them to
people who were not cleared to see them, and instructing her staff to
do likewise.  That's multiple felony counts with enhanced penalties
for "conspiracy," unless you're a Clinton.

Later, Comey was the Yellow Dog Democrats' last, best hope for
removing Trump from office, as they believed he was directing an
investigation that would end in prosecuting Trump as a Russian agent:
 The famous Russian Hacking story and its accessory sub-plots.

Hillarious, ain't it?

https://s11.postimg.org/qd9dcwxf7/Pence.For.President.Choice.Billionaire
s.png

=or=

https://tinyurl.com/pence4president

:o)



> https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/862651365801074688
> 
> The FBI is a Clear and Present Danger to 'American Democracy' (if
> such a thing exists at all) no matter which murderous creep runs
> it. They completely fabricate Terror Plots, including the planning,
> and logistics of supplying weapons and explosives, to frame
> innocent Muslims who would have never done such a thing without
> intense pressure from their operatives, and spy on US citizens for
> the NSA via their Data Intercept Technology Unit. They are the sole
> organization that investigates their own agent's murder of
> civilians. The FBI IS the American Gestapo, and 'Mericans are ANGRY
> their operations have been disturbed.


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Re: Angry Good Germans demand reinstatement of Gestapo chief

[Steven Schear]

If these manipulated and quasi-radicalized Muslims were smarter they would
plan a lethal surprise for their handlers as Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
suggested for the Soviet security people.

Warrant Canary creator

On May 11, 2017 9:10 AM, "Razer"  wrote:

> Angry "Good Germans" demand reinstatement of Gestapo chief James Comey
> at a "James Comey Is Fired Party" outside The White House.
>
> https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/862651365801074688
>
> The FBI is a Clear and Present Danger to 'American Democracy' (if such a
> thing exists at all) no matter which murderous creep runs it. They
> completely fabricate Terror Plots, including the planning, and logistics
> of supplying weapons and explosives, to frame innocent Muslims who would
> have never done such a thing without intense pressure from their
> operatives, and spy on US citizens for the NSA via their Data Intercept
> Technology Unit. They are the sole organization that investigates their
> own agent's murder of civilians. The FBI IS the American Gestapo, and
> 'Mericans are ANGRY their operations have been disturbed.
>
> Rr
>
>
>

Angry Good Germans demand reinstatement of Gestapo chief

[Razer]

Angry "Good Germans" demand reinstatement of Gestapo chief James Comey
at a "James Comey Is Fired Party" outside The White House.

https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/862651365801074688

The FBI is a Clear and Present Danger to 'American Democracy' (if such a
thing exists at all) no matter which murderous creep runs it. They
completely fabricate Terror Plots, including the planning, and logistics
of supplying weapons and explosives, to frame innocent Muslims who would
have never done such a thing without intense pressure from their
operatives, and spy on US citizens for the NSA via their Data Intercept
Technology Unit. They are the sole organization that investigates their
own agent's murder of civilians. The FBI IS the American Gestapo, and
'Mericans are ANGRY their operations have been disturbed.

Rr

Re: The Zen White Paper

[Joshua]

Excellent! Get ready to see a flood of Bitcoin emerging in physical form. 
Personally I really like what these folks are doing: https://opendime.com/

Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.ch), encrypted email based in 
Switzerland.

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: The Zen White Paper
Local Time: May 11, 2017 5:07 AM
UTC Time: May 11, 2017 9:07 AM
From: grarp...@gmail.com
To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org

Here's a fine series of articles outlining regulation to be routed around...

https://news.bitcoin.com/regulations-chinese-bitcoin-exchanges-expected-june-withdrawals-follow/

Re: Snowden defends Comey

[Razer]

On 05/11/2017 06:39 AM, John Newman wrote:
> https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/862069019301601281
>
> "This FBI Director has sought for years to jail me on account of
> my political activities. If I can oppose his firing, so can you."
>
>
>
> John 

Snowden is an "All-American Boy" who thinks he's doing his patriotic
duty by leaking and LUVS the American Gestapo (as long as they aren't
killing him and burying him in a shallow alligator-filled Florida ditch.)

OTOH, Chelsea Manning, I suspect, due to her involvement in the leaking
of the Crazy Horse 18 helicopter gunship assassination of a stringer for
Reuters, the wounding of another, and the better part of a civilian
family who came to assist too, may be not so much a "patriot" anymore.

The tape of the Crazy Horse 18 gunship crew audio as a musical mashup:
https://www.indybay.org/uploads/2010/04/20/pdr_iraq_slaughter_crazy_horse18.mp3

Rr

Snowden defends Comey

[John Newman]

https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/862069019301601281

"This FBI Director has sought for years to jail me on account of
my political activities. If I can oppose his firing, so can you."



John 


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Re: The Zen White Paper

[grarpamp]

Here's a fine series of articles outlining regulation to be routed around...

https://news.bitcoin.com/regulations-chinese-bitcoin-exchanges-expected-june-withdrawals-follow/

Re: The Zen White Paper

[grarpamp]

Cryptos be like...
https://i.redd.it/8kihpe54rrwy.jpg

Re: The Zen White Paper

[grarpamp]

The only real gamble is estimating regulation.
The rest can be routed around through markets, diversify, distributed.
Regulation in most sane places comes with public notice.
Even therein, or even as a game, there is money to be had.
Players know this, and their chips are often leisure money.
But it is money... $53B of it in the top100 market cap.
That will not sit quietly when faced with a $0'ing regulation proposition.

Whatever you believe, and whether or not you're in,
the history to date makes people seem a bit foolish
to *not* redirect their next pointless discretionary
purchase worth into it... cable tv, pizza, beer, cigs,
weed, high brand products, whatever crap. Worst
case it's another pointless buy down the drain.
Best case... moon, adoption even.

Re: [OT, really OT] [Just For Fun] 16 Batshit Space Conspiracy Theories That Will Freak You The Fuck Out

[jim bell]

 From: Mirimir 

On 05/10/2017 05:28 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
> 16 Batshit Space Conspiracy Theories That Will Freak You The Fuck Out
> 
> https://www.buzzfeed.com/hilarywardle/in-space-only-italian-radio-operators-can-hear-you-scream
> 
> The truth is out there, and so are dead astronauts and 13,000-year-old
> satellites.

I'm trying to figure out how they arrived at the age of 13,000 years.    Even 
if nothing else seemed phony about this story, the unexplained specificity of 
"13,000 years" would amount to a big warning flag.
            Jim Bell
   

Re: [OT, really OT] [Just For Fun] 16 Batshit Space Conspiracy Theories That Will Freak You The Fuck Out

[Mirimir]

On 05/10/2017 05:28 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
> 16 Batshit Space Conspiracy Theories That Will Freak You The Fuck Out
> 
> https://www.buzzfeed.com/hilarywardle/in-space-only-italian-radio-operators-can-hear-you-scream
> 
> The truth is out there, and so are dead astronauts and 13,000-year-old
> satellites.
> 
> PS:  - I thought 'batshit' was a version of 'bullshit', but smaller...
> Google taught me it means "completely mad or crazy".  Uh, unexpected!
> :P

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/38354/where-did-the-phrase-batsht-crazy-come-from

> ---
> "Don't let anyone rob you of your imagination, your creativity, or
> your curiosity.  It's your place in the world; it's your life.  Go on
> and do all you can with it, and make it the life you want to live."  -
>  Mae Jemison
>