Re: of elephants and men, and scumbags

2018-11-21 Thread jamesd

On 2018-11-21 17:45, juan wrote:

uh oh. So let's make clear what "the right" means. As Jim B. pointed out, the 
left/right classification comes from the french revolution. What needs to be added is that the 
people who sat on "the right" of the assembly were the 
conservatives/monarchists/theocrats or representatives of the 'ancien regime'.


> On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 16:04:56 +1000
> jam...@echeque.com wrote:

The ancient regime was theoretically absolute, and in an important sense
was absolute, but could not conscript,


On 2018-11-22 16:56, juan wrote:

excetp, of course it could

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corv%C3%A9e


Corvee was typically one day a week working on the fields or some such. 
Which is a lot less than I spend working for the government.  The 
ancient regime did not and could not send a generation off to Russia to die.

except hyperinflation in france existed in the 18th century (that is 
almost 100 years before the revolution)


http://austrianeconomics.wikia.com/wiki/John_Law_inflation_in_France


There was the important difference that though John Law could inflate 
away the paper money in your pocket, he did not and could not try to 
force bakers to supply bread for worthless money, unlike Venezuela today 
and unlike Revolutionary France.



Which gave us science, technology, industrialization, and empire.


notice that's exactly what a 'progressive' socialist would say.


But that is because they, and you, lie.

Progressives have destroyed science, and socialists' attempts at 
industrialization were second rate (reflect on soviet cars), relied on 
buying or stealing technology developed by capitalists (soviet cars and 
car factories were copied from the US under American engineers) and came 
at horrifying human cost.


Re: of elephants and men, and scumbags

2018-11-21 Thread juan
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 16:04:56 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:

> On 2018-11-21 17:45, juan wrote:
> > uh oh. So let's make clear what "the right" means. As Jim B. pointed 
> > out, the left/right classification comes from the french revolution. What 
> > needs to be added is that the people who sat on "the right" of the assembly 
> > were the conservatives/monarchists/theocrats or representatives of the 
> > 'ancien regime'.
> 
> The ancient regime was theoretically absolute, and in an important sense 
> was absolute, but could not conscript,

excetp, of course it could

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corv%C3%A9e



> nor alter taxes from traditional 
> sense, so in a very important sense far less absolute than the regime 
> that replaced it, that wound up flaying bakers for charging more than 
> the maximum and committing hyperinflation, 


except hyperinflation in france existed in the 18th century (that is 
almost 100 years before the revolution) 


http://austrianeconomics.wikia.com/wiki/John_Law_inflation_in_France


In other words you are either fuckingly ignorant, or playing retarded 
(something that really suits you)


Last but not least, whatever crimes the 'new regime' commited they were 
simply the continuation of the crimes of the old regime. 


> after the fashion of 
> Venezuela and wiped out entire generation of Frenchmen invading Russia.
> 
> The divine right regime of Charles the Second gave us corporate 
> capitalism, 


lol - so the only valuable thing you've ever said is that you 'were' a 
leftist. The fact that you were a leftist and now are a fuckingly retarded, 
far-right fascist is pretty much a mathematical identity. 

You could be a bit more entertaining if you managed to actually come up 
with half a thought on your own instead of robotically parroting nonsense... 
parroting nonsense like a good 'ex' leftist.   

But then again you *are* a leftist, that is an unthinking idiot. 


>Which gave us science, technology, industrialization, and empire.

notice that's exactly what a 'progressive' socialist would say. 

So the almost complete identity between left and right, or between 
western left-wing fascism and right-wing fascism is divinely embodied in 
fucktard James. 









Re: of elephants and men, and scumbags

2018-11-21 Thread jamesd

On 2018-11-21 17:45, juan wrote:

uh oh. So let's make clear what "the right" means. As Jim B. pointed out, the 
left/right classification comes from the french revolution. What needs to be added is that the 
people who sat on "the right" of the assembly were the 
conservatives/monarchists/theocrats or representatives of the 'ancien regime'.


The ancient regime was theoretically absolute, and in an important sense 
was absolute, but could not conscript, nor alter taxes from traditional 
sense, so in a very important sense far less absolute than the regime 
that replaced it, that wound up flaying bakers for charging more than 
the maximum and committing hyperinflation, after the fashion of 
Venezuela and wiped out entire generation of Frenchmen invading Russia.


The divine right regime of Charles the Second gave us corporate 
capitalism, made the scientific method as called for by Robert Boyle in 
the "Skeptical Chymist" high status and socially enforced, and 
instituted corporate capitalism.


Which gave us science, technology, industrialization, and empire.

So whoever wants to restore civilization against the darkness is going 
to look very like those who sat on the right hand side of the assembly




Re: A third of "dark-web" taken down by hack...

2018-11-21 Thread grarpamp
The fraction was smaller than reported in the media.
Have some...

https://old.reddit.com/r/onions


Re: A third of "dark-web" taken down by hack...

2018-11-21 Thread grarpamp
> I'm guessing that this was a standard shared-hosting privilege escalation.

Like so many before since decades.

https://twitter.com/i_bo0om

This one even claims to have a little bounty...
http://fhostingineiwjg6cppciac2bemu42nwsupvvisihnczinok362qfrqd.onion/


Re: of elephants and men, and scumbags

2018-11-21 Thread juan
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 02:49:31 -0500
Steve Kinney  wrote:

> 
> 
> On 11/20/18 10:41 PM, juan wrote:
> 
> >> http://pilobilus.net/Political.Oritnetation.Grid.png
> > 
> > 
> > I don't think the 2d graph adds much. The assumption that 'economic' 
> > freedom and 'personal' freedom are different things is obviously flawed. 
> > Also, the assumption that 'conservatives' favor 'eonomic' freedom whereas 
> > 'modern' 'liberals' favor 'personal' freedom is flawed as well. In practice 
> > both 'conservatives' and 'liberal' are...fascists =) 
> 
> Not economic vs. personal freedom, but rather, economic (commerce) vs.
> coercive (political) agency:  Concentration of capital and firepower in
> more or less hands.

That would be your X axis? 



> 
> > Nolan came up with his chart because libertarianism doesn't fit the 
> > mainstream left/right classification, BUT the notion that mainstream left 
> > and right are half libertarian is complete bullshit, wishful thinking and 
> > dishonest pandering. In practice, both liberals and conservatives pay some 
> > *lip service* to 'personal' or 'eonomic' freedom while fully supporting 
> > fascism. 
> 
> I was under the impression that Nolan came up with that chart in an
> effort to persuade people dissatisfied with the Left/Right spectrum that
> they "belong in" the Libertarian Party.


I guess that's a related reason. 


> 
> I can't fault his motives:  

It's not that I fault his motives. Rather I think the chart 
misrepresents the nature of left and right. In the nolan chart left and right 
are halfway between libertarian and authoritairan, but in reality they have 
varying degrees of authoritarianism. 



> Before the hostile takeover that converted
> the Libertarian Party to a Radical Conservative a.k.a. Coprporatist org
> back in the late 1990s, the Party had a lot to offer - I was a fan and
> booster.  Today, I can not distinguish Libertarian Party advocates and
> its (rare) candidates for political office from "socially tolerant"
> Republicans.  The Libtards do talk a slightly different game, but I
> could not care less about that:  Performance is my bottom line.


What's your take on this? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Accord

Anyway, my understanding is that the LP was supposed to be a means to 
'educate' people rather than to seize power. It seems to have failed in both 
accounts at any rate. And at times the LP candiates were outright neocons, so, 
self-parody. 



> 
> > Anyway, we can simply have a line (or segment I guess) with anarchists 
> > on one end and authoritarians on the other end. And then we can classify 
> > the whole library accordingly. 
> 
> That's the X axis on the graph...
> 
> > As to the placement of left and right in your graph, seems to me that 
> > both left and right should be at the top since both are authoritarian. And 
> > none of them favor free enterprise either...
> 
> I put the Right near the Anarchist end of the scale, because "Private
> power" vs. "State power" indicates one central State authority vs.
> numerous competitive State-chartered Corporate entities:  Think Soviet
> Union vs. United States, toward the end of the Cold War era.

But state chartered and privileged businesses are hardly anarchist? 
Another interpretation could be that your bottom left quadrant is literally 
"anarcho capitalism", but that's confusing because at least in theory "anarcho 
capitalism' is a synonym for full free enterprise. Though granted more than a 
few self styled 'anarcho capitalists' are 'anarcho' fascists. 

Overall I think the problem in your graph is that your capitalism/free 
enterprise axis should be parallel to the authoritarian/anarchist axis since 
authoritarian systems control all aspects of the lives of the subjects 
including of course economic activity.

However in a cartesian plane the data in te X axis isn't necessarily 
related to the data in the Y axis. The x,y components are independent so you 
can have any combination of x,y and you can have things like "authoritarian 
free enterprise" which is a clearly contradiction. 

here's one possible take. 


https://anonfile.com/v9EdG0l7bf/pol_svg


notice that the area marked in grey repesents "authoritarian 
individualism" which is something that doesn't make sense so even in this case 
teh 2d format isn't optimal.



> 
> Thanks to several generations of full saturation Big Lie propaganda,
> many people believe that Corporate Capitalism "is" Free Enterprise.  

Indeed. 

> But
> in real life the two present as natural enemies:  When an independent
> sole prop or partnership starts cutting into a major corporation's
> market by bringing a superior product to market at a competitive price,
> our Corporate Capitalists use their massive financial reserves to
> destroy the independent enterprise:  

Yes. So perhaps in your 

Re: A third of "dark-web" taken down by hack...

2018-11-21 Thread Mirimir
On 11/21/2018 12:37 PM, John Newman wrote:
> 
> https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2018/11/21/hacker-erases-6500-sites-from-the-dark-web/
> 
> I don't know if the numbers are accurate, but it shows remarkable 
> centralization of hidden services, which seems to (obviously) be a bad 
> idea

Indeed.

See this thread:
https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2018-November/044648.html

Including this from the operator:
https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2018-November/044650.html

Basically, it was shared hosting, and he kept no backups, intentionally.

I'm guessing that this was a standard shared-hosting privilege escalation.

Also see my post:
https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2018-November/044652.html


A third of "dark-web" taken down by hack...

2018-11-21 Thread John Newman

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2018/11/21/hacker-erases-6500-sites-from-the-dark-web/

I don't know if the numbers are accurate, but it shows remarkable 
centralization of hidden services, which seems to (obviously) be a bad idea



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Re: of elephants and men, and scumbags

2018-11-21 Thread grarpamp
> My initial reaction was "fuck y'all." Subsequent
> experience has proved my instinctive anarchist response correct.

> America's real silent majority, our classic Liberals, have no voice

> Meanwhile, thanks to many contributing factors that all come back to
> "make money fast, at any human cost," we remain on track for human
> extinction.  My own informal model, based on 40 years of obsessive
> attention to relevant geophysical data and models, indicates that at
> most single digit millions of humans will survive into the 2200s, with
> full extinction likely to follow within another century.  Setting an
> extinction date presents challenges:  The last humans will live under
> conditions similar to long-stay missions to Mars, but with abundant
> water and relatively convenient air pressure and temperature as major
> advantages.  As on Mars, a few minutes of unprotected exposure "outside"
> will be fatal.  One might wish our future Earth Colonists all the best...
>
> But that's another story: Search on NOVA Mass Extinction, then look for
> a mirror because WGBS no longer hosts that file.  When I'm really in the
> zone, I imagine that plans for Mars missions exist to provide cover for
> technology incubators developing methods for human survival under
> upcoming atmospheric and etc. conditions right here on Sol III Prime.
>
> "Gentlemen, we can not allow a Mine Shaft Gap!"
>
> vs. we can not afford to put off the business of shutting the
> Petrochemicals industry right the fuck down, and fast.  No aboveground
> political faction on the Left or Right, so called, will stand for that;
> they would literally kill you first, in an effort to discourage others.
>  So the final answer is left as a lab exercise... for all the marbles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_extinction


Analysis of ProtonMail Cryptographic Architecture

2018-11-21 Thread grarpamp
Cryptology ePrint Archive: Report 2018/1121

An Analysis of the ProtonMail Cryptographic Architecture
Nadim Kobeissi

Abstract: ProtonMail is an online email service that claims to offer
end-to-end encryption such that "even [ProtonMail] cannot read and
decrypt [user] emails." The service, based in Switzerland, offers
email access via webmail and smartphone applications to over five
million users as of November 2018. In this work, we provide the first
independent analysis of ProtonMail's cryptographic architecture. We
find that for the majority of ProtonMail users, no end-to-end
encryption guarantees have ever been provided by the ProtonMail
service and that the "Zero-Knowledge Password Proofs" are negated by
the service itself. We also find and document weaknesses in
ProtonMail's "Encrypt-to-Outside" feature. We justify our findings
against well-defined security goals and conclude with recommendations.

Category / Keywords: applications / public-key cryptography, pgp

Date: received 18 Nov 2018, last revised 19 Nov 2018
Contact author: nadim at symbolic software
Available format(s): PDF | BibTeX Citation
Version: 20181120:032816 (All versions of this report)
Short URL: ia.cr/2018/1121

https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/1121.pdf


Re: Cryptocurrency Dark Side, Voting, Anarchism, Government with McAfee, Rose, Passio and more

2018-11-21 Thread grarpamp
> "if pigs had win they might fly".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWvevkE0kAI