Re: ideology

2020-07-25 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 12:24:46PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 06:43:32PM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> > On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 19:22:01 +
> > таракан  wrote:
> > > I read the Cypherpunk manifesto... in other words: "me want privacy"
> > > It's even an idea, as basic as it is. Ecven the Unabomber manifesto has 
> > > more ideas : "me againt technology,m technology bad... cannot say why"
> > 
> > I think kaczynski makes it  clear why technology as it exists today is 
> > bad. He also has a half-psychobable theory about the "power process", 
> > "surrogate activities" etc. Ignoring the psychobable, he's well aware that 
> > people don't control their lives, which is "the" political problem. 
> 
> 
> Now that's a very clear statement of a/the fundamental problem:
> 
>people don't control their lives, which is "the" political problem
> 
> 
> Such clarity is really valuable.  Awesome!
> 
> From this we can ask things like (only half tongue in ckeek) "are there many 
> people who _want_ to control their lives?"
> 
> The responsibility inherent in "yes, I want to control my life" is perhaps 
> not so popular...
> 
> Also from this clear problem statement of "what's needed to control my life?" 
> we can state and discuss possible solutions:
> 
>  - vertical integration - i.e. grow your own food or at least some of it, 
> collect your own water etc
> 
>  - create (or "make real") smaller, more local communities
> 
> and other things up the chain, like maker spaces, energy production, open 
> source cars and other tech that can be made and maintained by communities of 
> a certain size.
> 
> 
> We start from where we are, and I tell you this: I sure as heaven control my 
> dang toothbrush and underwear!  There ain't not no dang hippy bastard gonna 
> "just share" my toothbrush or underwear, or he gonna find his elf a new, if 
> temporary, rationship with the floor :D



   A Lost Year – Where Do You Go From Here?
   Peter R. Quinones via The Liberarian Institute,
   
https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/a-lost-year-where-do-you-go-from-here/
   https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/lost-year-where-do-you-go-here

  ..  If we are to survive this chaotic epoch, it is incumbent upon the 
individual to act, that he or she takes matters into their own hands and become 
as independent from the system as they can. ..

  .. anyone who is paying attention is beginning to realize we are 
somewhere new

  .. in an already insane age where one’s character is judged by whether 
they believe Donald Trump is “literally Hitler,”

  .. It would not be unfair to ask if civility is dead. If people are 
willing to threaten each other’s livelihoods and, in many cases, yell at 
strangers in public for everything from politics to how to handle the CV-19 
crisis, how does one cope?

  .. Samuel Edward Konkin III developed the idea of agorism. Many people 
now call themselves “Agorists” but agorism is something you do. The idea of 
counter-economics, doing business outside of the government approved market is 
nothing new. Sam was just the first to give it a name and develop it as a 
strategy.

  .. In the age of forced government lockdowns and potential shortages of 
bare necessities, the “black” and “gray” markets may become essential for 
survival. Constantly communicating with your local stores is a good idea. If a 
store owner feels like a shortage is coming, they may hold back supply for 
themselves so starting a relationship with them in which they may allow you to 
buy some of that supply for yourself is smart. For those who can access private 
farms the same kind of friendship would be prudent for in the experience of 
this author farmers are more apt to participate in such activities.

  .. numerous employees of Cisco were fired for posting “All Lives Matter” 
on internal message boards
  
https://reclaimthenet.org/cisco-employees-fired-for-all-lives-matter-posts/

  .. At a time when even private companies are bending the knee to the mob 
and destroying people’s livelihoods for having an opinion contrary to an 
incredibly small minority, it has never been more important to start a 
side-hustle outside of your day job

  .. People who live in apartments can grow potatoes in 55-gallon drums on 
their porch and sell them to friends or at the local farmer’s market. Again, 
untaxed income.

  Whatever you come up with just start doing it. Get moving. Protect 
yourself and your family in these extremely uncertain times.

  Counter-Economics and Safety

  Contrary to popular opinion the police are not there to protect you. If 
you are in the process of suffering a home invasion and the closest officer is 
five minutes away, that can be the longest five minutes of your life. Or it 
could be the end for you. The protests that have turned into riots and lootings 
clearly show the police are not only not willing to protect private citizens 

Re: Let Chicongo go

2020-07-25 Thread Zig the N.g
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 12:51:41PM +1000, Zig the N.g wrote:
> There's an exemplary argument to be made to let Chicongo go...
> 
> Most folks, lest they see signs and wonders, do not believe.


   Protests Erupt Across Country; Black Militia Member Accidentally Shoots 
Comrades In Park
   
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/seattle-police-abandon-residents-antifa-uses-twitter-facebook-organize-nationwide

  ..At one point gunshots erupted when one NFAC member accidentally shot 
three of his comrades.


Let Chicongo go

2020-07-25 Thread Zig the N.g
There's an exemplary argument to be made to let Chicongo go...

Most folks, lest they see signs and wonders, do not believe.


Constructive messages

2020-07-25 Thread Zenaan Harkness
A fundamentally constructive message is that folks need to get going in their 
own lives, figuring out (if they have not done so already) what "good" or 
"righteous" means to themselves, and then actually live that; that is, choose 
and do actions which are in support of their own understading and reality of 
right and wrong.

To pick one totally random example, the CIA has systemic or "structural" 
limitations, in that for starters they are meant to support the USA president, 
and so we can imagine that the wildcard "bad orange" president may well not 
survive the November elections, and then those "organs of state" which support 
the president suddenly would have to again "switch gears" so to speak, in that 
case supporting the soon to be gone Biden, likely replaced by Hillary or some 
equally despotic equivalent.

So we must work in a very real sense as individuals, within the limits of our 
capacity and authority, and where we can, expanding those limits.

Plainly, a lot (for the West) obviously hinges on November, and so it's all 
very well for angry little punks to run around throwing the gauntlet down, but 
that by itself does not change reality - we must each do what we can, day by 
day.

Create our world,



   Martenson: We Are On Our Own In The Post-COVID World
   Chris Martenson via PeakProsperity.com,
   https://www.peakprosperity.com/we-are-on-our-own-in-the-post-covid-world/
   https://www.zerohedge.com/political/martenson-we-are-our-own-post-covid-world

  It's time to be our own heroes, because those in charge sure won't be...

  Even before the coronavirus pandemic hit, things weren’t all that great 
for the bottom 90% of households.

  The median household was barely scraping by with ultra-low financial 
reserves, meager retirement savings and high levels of debt. All while being 
relentlessly crushed by cost of living inflation running far higher than the 
blatantly fraudulent government statistics offered up by the BLS.

  Even more infuriating, the economic pie was preferentially handed to the 
top 10% — well, more specifically, to the top 1%. And even more dramatically to 
the top 0.1%.  Don’t even get me started on the 0.001%…

  While often presented in the media as a puzzling thing without any root 
cause, both the income and wealth gaps are the direct result of Federal Reserve 
policies and actions Helped, of course, by lobbyists for the elites influencing 
Congressional tax legislation.

  ...



Re: communicating with police officers, narratives, discrimination

2020-07-25 Thread Zig the N.g
May be if you don't limit it to cops, but include any "unnecessary use of 
violence", then it could be more likely to garner omni partisan support, rather 
than be seen by one particular as a direct attack on them - which seems counter 
productive.

To this end, you could call it "moron watch".

As soon as partisanship shows it's ugly troll face, you will lose supporters, 
you lose the moral high ground, and you turbo charge the divisions that are 
happening that some people like to deny...

Choose wisely,



On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 06:13:07PM -0400, Karl wrote:
> Punk, would you be interested in helping preserve videos of police
> violence?  Copwatch projects are hard to maintain because they can be seen
> as counter to the local authorities.
> 
> Comments below.
> 
> -
> 
> K
> 
> There is proof inside many peoples' electronics.  Proof that a marketing
> group would contract development of a frightening virus.  A virus that
> responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what
> people see on their devices.  A virus that alters political behavior en
> masse, for profit.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2020, 5:31 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0  wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 14:48:04 -0400
> > Karl  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I've bumped into some really nice police officers.
> >
> > there is no such thing.
> >
> 
> Well police officers do have blaming, endangering, and harming people as
> their job right now, under the label of serving and protecting other people.
> 
> > It seems highly unfortunate they direct people to prisons instead of
> > mediation.
> >
> > so you're acknowledging that your 'nice' worthless pieces of shit
> > do very un-nice things eh? See, when you put two flatly contradictory
> > sentences side by side like you did, you should realize your reasoning is
> > (pretty) flawed.
> >
> 
> What's most important is handling what actually happens, yes, but I
> differentiate between who people are, and what harm they are one of the
> causes of.  For example, it is kind of you to defend those of us who have
> been severely harmed by a cop, but to cops it is an un-nice thing to
> express worthlessness around them.  I do not take sides in the end.  I
> still have experiences I am passionate about.
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > >
> > > it may be in your personal interest to keep in mind that many police
> > > > officers at least originally joined the police because they either
> > wanted
> > > > to make a positive difference in their community,
> >
> > false
> >
> 
> What's your knowledge?  We all seem to come from different countries, for
> one thing.
> 
> >


Re: ideology

2020-07-25 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 06:43:32PM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 19:22:01 +
> таракан  wrote:
> > I read the Cypherpunk manifesto... in other words: "me want privacy"
> > It's even an idea, as basic as it is. Ecven the Unabomber manifesto has 
> > more ideas : "me againt technology,m technology bad... cannot say why"
> 
>   I think kaczynski makes it  clear why technology as it exists today is 
> bad. He also has a half-psychobable theory about the "power process", 
> "surrogate activities" etc. Ignoring the psychobable, he's well aware that 
> people don't control their lives, which is "the" political problem. 


Now that's a very clear statement of a/the fundamental problem:

   people don't control their lives, which is "the" political problem


Such clarity is really valuable.  Awesome!

>From this we can ask things like (only half tongue in ckeek) "are there many 
>people who _want_ to control their lives?"

The responsibility inherent in "yes, I want to control my life" is perhaps not 
so popular...

Also from this clear problem statement of "what's needed to control my life?" 
we can state and discuss possible solutions:

 - vertical integration - i.e. grow your own food or at least some of it, 
collect your own water etc

 - create (or "make real") smaller, more local communities

and other things up the chain, like maker spaces, energy production, open 
source cars and other tech that can be made and maintained by communities of a 
certain size.


We start from where we are, and I tell you this: I sure as heaven control my 
dang toothbrush and underwear!  There ain't not no dang hippy bastard gonna 
"just share" my toothbrush or underwear, or he gonna find his elf a new, if 
temporary, rationship with the floor :D


Re: Red Bull - Official Drank o' The Alt-Freakin-Right - "you know you love 'em Ossie sheilas"

2020-07-25 Thread Zig the N.g
On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 07:41:49PM +, jim bell wrote:
>  On Saturday, July 25, 2020, 11:38:06 AM PDT, Shawn K. Quinn 
>  wrote:
>  
>  On 7/21/20 19:46, this fell into my inbox:> Oh yeah, the BLM awareness
> 
> raising campaign is starting to bear fruit, grape drank fruit to be
> precise :D> > I ain't sure Red Bull does grape drank, but it looks like
> it on day agenda now muffaduckas ;)[etc]
> 
> >Welp, looks like Coca-Cola Energy it is for now, if I should be in the
> mood. Though I'm trying to cut the sugar/carbs and caffeine as much as
> circumstances allow, anyway...
> 
> Jim Bell's comments:I discovered Coke Zero a few years ago.  It's a 
> reasonably good copy of Coke.  I had to change, I was diagnosed as Type 2 
> diabetic 18 years ago.  

Oh wow, good move!  It's great that you've changed away from sugary Coke to 
sugar free Coke ... 18 years after your diabetes diagnosis ;)


> I remember when they announced "New Coke" in 1985.  Alone, that wasn't a 
> threat.  The threat was that they were intending to CANCEL old-Coke.  I 
> seriously considered renting a storage unit and buying a lifetime supply of 
> old-Coke.  Never actually did that, because I couldn't imagine how they could 
> be so flaming STUPID as to force everyone onto a newer (and worse) product.  
> Turns out I was right.But I also discovered, within the last few years, that 
> cans of pop are NOT hermetically-sealed:  They WILL lose their carbonation 
> after a couple years, at least some of them.  
>           Jim Bell
> 
> 
> 
>   


Re: communicating with police officers, narratives, discrimination

2020-07-25 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 02:48:04PM -0400, Karl wrote:
> How does this expression land for this being a cryptoanarchist list?
> 
> 1 in line reply below.
> 
> -
> 
> K
> 
> There is proof inside many peoples' electronics.  Proof that a marketing
> group would contract development of a frightening virus.  A virus that
> responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what
> people see on their devices.  A virus that alters political behavior en
> masse, for profit.

Your sig fills ~10 extra lines in every email you send.

Again you keep sending me 2 copies of almost every email you reply to me, and 
accasionally an extra email apologising.


> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 12:44 PM Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> 
> > Some people seem to like to direct their anger at external authorities, or
> > treat certain other humans with disdain because they've had a bad
> > experience with someone else of the same profession/job/ race/ sex/
> > whatever.
> >
> > There are bad apples around, but
> 
> 
> Here you begin treating people with disdain ("bad apples") which you
> criticize doing in the paragraph prior.


Are you saying that there are no "bad apples" around?




Re: Red Bull - Official Drank o' The Alt-Freakin-Right - "you know you love 'em Ossie sheilas"

2020-07-25 Thread таракан
> From a non-US perspective, these things like BLM movement means absolutely 
> nothing for us. Some sort of marketing stunt indeed for sodas or similar 
> brands.
>
> Here we have 'Donbass lives matter'... actually no, they don't really matter 
> to anyone.
>
> Anyway a minimum of 100k death outside the USA killed by a Nazi army trained 
> by the US military isn't really to be put in balance with a dozen of Black 
> people, US citizens, killed by US police... proof that all this is just pure 
> hypocrisies like always.

Re: Red Bull - Official Drank o' The Alt-Freakin-Right - "you know you love 'em Ossie sheilas"

2020-07-25 Thread jim bell
 On Saturday, July 25, 2020, 11:38:06 AM PDT, Shawn K. Quinn 
 wrote:
 
 On 7/21/20 19:46, this fell into my inbox:> Oh yeah, the BLM awareness

raising campaign is starting to bear fruit, grape drank fruit to be
precise :D> > I ain't sure Red Bull does grape drank, but it looks like
it on day agenda now muffaduckas ;)[etc]

>Welp, looks like Coca-Cola Energy it is for now, if I should be in the
mood. Though I'm trying to cut the sugar/carbs and caffeine as much as
circumstances allow, anyway...

Jim Bell's comments:I discovered Coke Zero a few years ago.  It's a reasonably 
good copy of Coke.  I had to change, I was diagnosed as Type 2 diabetic 18 
years ago.  
I remember when they announced "New Coke" in 1985.  Alone, that wasn't a 
threat.  The threat was that they were intending to CANCEL old-Coke.  I 
seriously considered renting a storage unit and buying a lifetime supply of 
old-Coke.  Never actually did that, because I couldn't imagine how they could 
be so flaming STUPID as to force everyone onto a newer (and worse) product.  
Turns out I was right.But I also discovered, within the last few years, that 
cans of pop are NOT hermetically-sealed:  They WILL lose their carbonation 
after a couple years, at least some of them.  
          Jim Bell



  

Re: Gaynor: Free Speech update: Garry Burns is bankrup

2020-07-25 Thread Karl
I don't understand: isn't antidiscrimination needed to prevent eventual
violent rebellion from people who are discriminated against?

-

K

There is proof inside many peoples' electronics.  Proof that a marketing
group would contract development of a frightening virus.  A virus that
responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what
people see on their devices.  A virus that alters political behavior en
masse, for profit.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 5:49 AM Zenaan Harkness  wrote:

> Awesome news folks, the New South Wales Anti-Discrimination Board (in
> NSW, Australia) "is on the verge of a catastrophic defeat"!!!
>
> Fan, freaking, tastic, BatMan!
>
> Not quite there yet on this front, but thousands have contributed from
> their wallets, from their prayers, and from their moral support to
> Bernard and his family - they went through some really tough times,
> even before Covid tought us the meaning of "tough" <:D>.  Seriously,
> Gaynor is a trooper and so many have played their small part.
>
> It ain't over yet either!  Cancel culture might have just taken a hit,
> but there's a metric tonne to go yet.  Stay the course!
>
> Pray, muffas!
>
> Pray for righteousness, for justice to prevail, and for those good men
> under attack to find the strength within to stay the course of truth
> and justice.
>
> Peace,
>
>
>
>
> - Forwarded message from Bernard Gaynor
>  -
>
> From: Bernard Gaynor 
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 08:15:42 +
> Subject: Free Speech update: Garry Burns is bankrupt
> X-Mailer: MailChimp Mailer - **CID932b777af0761ea41511**
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>
> Garry Burns has filed for bankruptcy
>
> View this email in your browser
> (https://mailchi.mp/bernardgaynor/u9ceet3738-840822?e=761ea41511)
>
>
> https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa1558f96210=b43916ea37=761ea41511
> Dear Zenaan,
>
> Garry Burns is bankrupt.
> (
> https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa1558f96210=633bd15bb2=761ea41511
> )
>
> This does not mean that his complaints against me are over. There is
> still a process to unfold. But it does mean that they could end soon.
> Then the work of holding the New South Wales Anti-Discrimination Board
> to account will begin.
>
> I have written some thoughts about Burns' bankruptcy here
> (
> https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa1558f96210=590de169f0=761ea41511
> )
> .
>
> And this piece highlights
> (
> https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa1558f96210=11012f85df=761ea41511
> )
> the important victories that we have achieved since this farcical saga
> first began. You will not hear about these victories in the mainstream
> media.
>
> When we take stock, it is clear that the New South Wales
> anti-discrimination industry is on the verge of a catastrophic defeat.
>
> These victories are proof that conservatives can win. They are also
> proof that those who attack us have complete disregard for the law.
>
> However, there is still work to be done. I still have legal costs to
> pay and still face proceedings in the NSW Civil and Administrative
> Tribunal, NSW Local Court, NSW Supreme Court and High Court of
> Australia. If you wish to assist, please donate here.
> (
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>
> I have also commenced action to examine Garry Burns' financial
> affairs. I have reason to believe that this may be an explosive
> process. Stay tuned.
>
> On Tuesday night at 8pm I will be appearing on Pellowe Talk to discuss
> these matters.
>
> Tune in online by visiting
>
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> latest podcast which focuses on the attack on free speech and 'cancel
> culture'.
>
> You can view this by clicking below:
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>
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> and generosity. These victories would not be possible without you.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Bernard Gaynor
> Christus Rex!
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Re: redux -- Re: USA status check

2020-07-25 Thread Karl
Our voices are not threatening your civilization.  We ask only for free
speech around how we are hurt and what we can do to act on it.

-

K

There is proof inside many peoples' electronics.  Proof that a marketing
group would contract development of a frightening virus.  A virus that
responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what
people see on their devices.  A virus that alters political behavior en
masse, for profit.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 11:46 PM Zenaan Harkness  wrote:

> There are no shortage of facts of doom and gloom in the West.  To avert
> destruction and the violent power grab and subsequent enslavement that
> would immediately follow (or run parallel to) this quite possible collapse,
> we must begin the process of living a higher ethic.  Choose wisely.
> Catalyze and precipitate that which we need.  Amplify the higher ethics.
>
>Doug Casey On Why This Election Could Be The Most Important Since The
> US Civil War
>InternationalMan.com,
>
> https://internationalman.com/articles/why-this-election-could-be-the-most-important-since-the-us-civil-war/
>
> https://www.zerohedge.com/political/doug-casey-why-election-could-be-most-important-us-civil-war
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 03:29:39AM +1000, Zig the N.g wrote:
> > For those who care, a quick status check on the USA; it's quite
> precarious:
> >
> >A Stress Test For A Straining Superpower
> >Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org,
> >
> https://buchanan.org/blog/stress-test-of-a-straining-superpower-138961
> >https://www.zerohedge.com/political/stress-test-straining-superpower
> >
> >   ...
> >
> >   From the protests, riots, rampages and statue-smashing of the last
> two months, it is apparent that millions of Americans detest our history
> and heroes. Though nowhere in recorded time have 42 million people of
> African descent achieved the measures of freedom and prosperity they have
> in the USA, we are daily admonished that ours is a rotten and sick society
> whose every institution is shot through with “systemic racism.”
> >
> >   ...
> >
>


Re: Foundations for Action

2020-07-25 Thread Karl
Zenaan, it sounds like you are interested in talking, which is so wonderful.

Could you trim it down into a few sentences for us confused people?

What do you need from those among us available to reply?

-

K

There is proof inside many peoples' electronics.  Proof that a marketing
group would contract development of a frightening virus.  A virus that
responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what
people see on their devices.  A virus that alters political behavior en
masse, for profit.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 1:14 PM Zenaan Harkness  wrote:

> For those who missed the memo, we're in a conversation.
>
> Right now in the West this is a community wide conversation as we face
> certain critical junctures in history.
>
> It is not only poignant and important but literally game changing, and an
> urgent last minute call to higher principles.  For example Kek's meme army
> memed "the orange man" into the presidency (along with a lot of prayer from
> those who pray, and certain great sacrifices).
>
> Feel free to join this conversation - we will share the outcome, either
> chaos and rapid destruction, or a steady recovery and rebuild of
> relationships.  Breaking habits can be tough, with withdrawals, headaches,
> occasional relapses and drying out periods, but with a stern father figure
> and guiding hand (Putin) we can get through this; we must!
>
> Let's also remind ourselves that we are all human.
>
> Where possible in this conversation try to help your "opponent" to
> understand his own words when your "Stupid O Meter" highlights for you how
> stupid his words are; consider responding with a sentence beginning with
> "Did you mean ..." or "Are you trying to say that ..."
>
> It is convenient to use the "royal we" that is to use "we" (or "our" etc)
> to refer to either our whole community or any subset - if the true meaning
> is unclear to you, that's an opportunity to join the convo and ask for
> clarification.  When the royal "we" is used, it often is not meant to imply
> that the writer is necessarily included in the group referred to.
>
>
>
> Example 1: Pragmatism
> ---
>
> Pragmatism has its place, but it often has its price!
>
> Pragmatism is in many circumstances a reasonable "default fallback", e.g.
> when in doubt.
>
> Pragmatism also appears to be the dominant old school modality for our
> trusted deep state allies - yes, we use the word "trusted" in a generous
> way as not only a figure of speech, but as a prayer for a future for our
> children of peace between nations; let's call it a pragmatic choice :)
>
> The problem with pragmatism is its limits - without the higher guiding
> principles, "pragmatism" justifies torture, murder, and for example the
> revolving turnstyle in Iran of regime change de-installing one leader and
> system for another, followed by later de-installing your new "puppet" and
> re-installing the old, just to later turn around and do it all again in
> repeated reversing repetition; and the obvious result is a cluster-check of
> distrust, instability, international condemnation, and generally fear.  All
> in the name of pragmatism.  And this has of course been repeated all over
> the place including Iraq, Turkey and Libya.
>
> Given the West's regime change antics, it is no wonder we are on the
> precipice of the same sword.  The will to use evil on another, justifies
> that evil befalling ourselves - karma or "do unto others that which you
> would have them do unto you".
>
> Despotic pragmatism has so universally dominated the CIA that the CIA's
> present Director Gina Haspel has reportedly engaged in / authorized /
> upheld / publicly supported, torture (named by the despotic euphemism
> "enhanced interrogation techniques").  One wonders what happened to Ms
> Haspel in her younger years…
>
> Torture must be forever taken off the table, and publicly renounced,
> unambiguously, and permanently.
>
> The Western regime is on the precipice of destruction.  We must repent of
> our evils.  We must cast evil from our "toolbox" of foundations for
> action.  We must stop justifying all manner of evils as the means to reach
> "the 'good' ends".
>
> For starters, "our deep state buddies" must actually renounce, and
> actually refrain from, certain evils including:
>
>- torture
>- extrajudicial killing aka murder
>- violent regime change of client (or "enemy") states
>
> (Feel free to add other evils which we must cast from the West!)
>
> Without actually renouncing, denouncing and refraining from, torture (for
> one example), no mandate from heaven can be in operation (duh!) and instead
> the wrath of heaven must descend, and if that's hard to understand, pray
> you be guided as to why righteous humans would uphold, or destroy, a nation.
>
> If "you" (CIA, FBI, employees, etc) struggle to find righteous foundations
> for action within yourself or within your department, you are in urgent
> need of crowdsourcing some righteousness 

Re: USA status check

2020-07-25 Thread Karl
Reply in line below signature.

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K

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responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what
people see on their devices.  A virus that alters political behavior en
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On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 1:30 PM Zig the N.g  wrote:

> For those who care, a quick status check on the USA; it's quite precarious:
>
>A Stress Test For A Straining Superpower
>Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org,
>https://buchanan.org/blog/stress-test-of-a-straining-superpower-138961
>https://www.zerohedge.com/political/stress-test-straining-superpower
>
>   ...
>
>   From the protests, riots, rampages and statue-smashing of the last
> two months, it is apparent that millions of Americans detest our history
> and heroes. Though nowhere in recorded time have 42 million people of
> African descent achieved the measures of freedom and prosperity they have
> in the USA, we are daily admonished that ours is a rotten and sick society
> whose every institution is shot through with “systemic racism.”
>

This is a government biased article and nothing about the USA is precarious
yet.  Everything is developing very slowly and the rich are still in
charge.  We got them to notice again, which is great.


>   ...
>
>


Re: Personal Black Box?

2020-07-25 Thread Karl
What's important is that when we use tools to reliably record video, we can
keep things in line by proving what is real.  If more people can do this,
then what is good and right is defended.  It needs to be both easy and
controlled by the user.

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group would contract development of a frightening virus.  A virus that
responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what
people see on their devices.  A virus that alters political behavior en
masse, for profit.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 6:31 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0  wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 20:44:06 + (UTC)
> jim bell  wrote:
>
>
> > https://www.revolver.news/2020/07/antifa-attacks-michelle-malkin-denver/
>
>
> so, now you're linking straight pro-police fascist propaganda. Are
> you out your fucking mind, or what else is your problem?
>
>
> "Peaceful Pro-Police Demonstrators"...
>
> ...are the worst scum on the planet. Also, 'peaceful pro-police'
> is literally a contradiction in terms.
>
>
>
> > In part, my advocacy for making available a device which I call a
> "Personal Black Box" is to allow people to document misbehavior by cops.
> Nevertheless, I think it is equally important for people to be able to
> document misconduct by protestors/rioters.  Above, there is a statement:
> >
> > "The reality is much darker. Antifa functions as a paramilitary force
> for the corrupt ruling class that controls the United States of America."
> >
> > Indeed, there is a historic parallel:  The "Brownshirts".
>
>
> you mean, the police and the military.
>
> as to "the corrupt ruling class that controls the United States of
> America"
>
> those are your beloved technocrats like musk, intel, and company.
>
>


Re: NYT accidentally publishes Ghislaine Maxwell obituary ahead of schedule

2020-07-25 Thread Karl
Zenaan below has bravely quoted a public death threat issued denianly by
the business mafia.  These things are very common.

If you could cut through the deniability and make clear argument that it is
a death threat, it would be the job of the local authorities to stop it,
criminally charge the source of it, and protect the target.  This rarely
happens as far as I am aware of.

Death threats are used when fear is preferred to actual death.

You could make progress on figuring out where the threat came from by
talking with the people who published the article.  Trump and Hillary are
just towing the line, both.

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group would contract development of a frightening virus.  A virus that
responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what
people see on their devices.  A virus that alters political behavior en
masse, for profit.


On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 2:28 PM Zig the N.g  wrote:

>New York Times Accidentally Publishes Ghislaine Maxwell Obituary Ahead
> Of Schedule
>
> https://babylonbee.com/news/oops-ghislaine-maxwell-included-in-list-of-covid-19-deaths
>
>   [cute pic not attached]
>
>   NEW YORK, NY—Oops! The New York Times accidentally included Ghislaine
>   Maxwell in its daily list of New Yorkers killed by COVID-19,
> publishing
>   the socialite's name on its website Tuesday morning.
>
>   The glowing obituary called Maxwell a "generous, loving, austere
>   childcare provider" who "will be missed by many of us elites." ...
>
>
>
>
>
> In other news, NY governor Cuomo is blazing an old new trail:
>
>Ceremony Honoring Governor Cuomo's COVID-19 Response To Be Held At
> Now-Vacant Nursing Home
>
> https://babylonbee.com/news/ceremony-honoring-governor-cuomos-covid-19-response-to-be-held-at-now-vacant-nursing-home
>
>   ALBANY, NY—A ceremony honoring Governor Cuomo's fantastic response
> to the
>   coronavirus pandemic will be held at a convenient location: a
> now-vacant
>   nursing home upstate.
>
>   Cuomo was awarded the United States Award for Disease Response
> Excellence
>   by Dr. Anthony Fauci at the recently vacated venue.
>
>   "We just had all this free space opened up," said Cuomo. "This is a
> great
>   new space to host all kinds of cool events. They've got a cafeteria,
> lots
>   of available beds for a little shut-eye, and a room to play Bingo. I
>   could get comfortable here."
>
>   ..
>


Re: Whites going ape for Blacks in America -- Re: Soros' BLM _finally_ lifting their image, much to Soros' relief -- Re: surprisingly, Soros now pins US color revolution on Trump

2020-07-25 Thread Karl
Hi Zig,

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 1:28 PM Zig the N.g  wrote:

> Soros must be turning in his grave about now, as Whites are going ape over
> Blacks in America at the moment, as recent poll numbers actually properly
> show
> (a rare day indeed), and it's no surprise, what with Black shootings of
> young
> White mothers, a vicious and


Sorry, could you maybe remind us of a link of this?  Because it looks to me
right now that you are accusing people who are commonly victims of murder,
as causing it, which would spread more _actual_murder_of_Black_people_ and
is likely grounds for criminal charges.

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relentless campaign of destroying our history and
> culture, it's a total surprise to some that we aren't screaming for
> monthly Hug
> A Black days, sheesh! :
>
>
>New Poll Shows More White Americans Now Oppose Black Lives Matter Than
> Support
>(Paul Joseph Watson via Summit News,)
>
> https://summit.news/2020/07/21/new-poll-shows-majority-of-americans-now-oppose-black-lives-matter/
>
> https://www.zerohedge.com/political/new-poll-shows-more-white-americans-now-oppose-black-lives-matter-support
>
>   After enjoying a surge in support following the death of George
> Floyd, a
>   new polls reveals that a majority of white Americans now oppose the
> Black
>   Lives Matter movement.
>   ...
>
>
>
> [Seriously, Paul Joseph Watson is on a freaking  roll  these days!  What a
> trooper!]
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 09:54:53AM +1000, Zig the N.g wrote:
> > Well well, finally BLM has decided to do Soros a favour and actually
> improve their public image, shooting a 24 year old mother of one in an
> ambush under a brigde while she was walking with her friends and fiancée.
> >
> > ... but earlier she did, or at least someone in her group did, respond
> to a black calling out "black lives matter" with the vile, racist,
> abhorrent slogan "all lives matter!"
> >
> > How, just, absolutely!
> >
> >
> >BLM Supporters Ambush, Murder Young White Mother For Saying 'All
> Lives Matter'
> >
> https://www.zerohedge.com/political/blm-supporters-ambush-murder-young-white-mother-saying-all-lives-matter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 08:46:07AM +1000, Zig the N.g wrote:
> > > This might be obvious in hindsight, or I might just be unfortunately
> slow to grasp things, but to this morning's delight, a "blame Trump"
> exercise actually surprises me.  Go figure.
> > >
> > > Presimably feeling the heat, Soros is for some strange reason wanting
> his grand hurrah, the White color revolution being dished out on North
> America for the world to see, to NOT be blamed on Soros!
> > >
> > > It's hard to get over the level's of chutzpah in this one, and really,
> chops to Soros for at least __trying__ to pin the blame on someone as
> Project Veritas and other leaks ongoingly damn him in the public mind ...
> > >
> > > ... I guess "Putin dunnit" was beginning to wear a little thin.. and
> since for 30+ years the oligarchs have been stashing the cash over in their
> favourite Pooh Bear dictatorship, and now they're struggling to get it out,
> they might as well try to turn up the heat on MAGA Man.
> > >
> > > "All's fair in war and color revolutions."
> > >
> > > Quite sophístamicated:
> > >
> > >
> > >Hedge Fund CIO: Trump Is Now Left With Two Darker Options - A
> Domestic Civil Conflict And/Or A Chinese Conflict
> > >
> https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/hedge-fund-cio-trump-now-left-two-darker-options-domestic-civil-conflict-andor-chinese
> > >
>


Re: "totally normal + non-suspicious" urgent document burning at Houston Chinese consulate - [PEACE]

2020-07-25 Thread Karl
This is an emergency indicating the need to upload important documents to a
blockchain such as with https://bico.media if you can make it work.

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group would contract development of a frightening virus.  A virus that
responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what
people see on their devices.  A virus that alters political behavior en
masse, for profit.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 1:11 PM Zig the N.g  wrote:

> Kek looks on in mild amusement this evening (Ossie time) as a "totally
> normal
> and non-suspicious" urgent document burning in multiple barrels at the
> Houston
> Chinese consulate courtyard are hurried along by little Chinamen darting
> in and
> out of the consulate's offices as the Houston police department look on in
> mirth
> - in case anyone gets burnt I guess ...
>
> ... which by complete and total coincidence is being done immediately after
> Trump ordered the consulate closed "within 72 hours".
>
>"Oh my, what warm courtyards you have their Mister Consul."
>
>
> I thought open fires were hazardous to the health of cotton stuffed
> Winnie The Pooh bears, but what would I know?
>
>
>China Furious After US Abruptly Orders Closure Of Houston Consulate
> Sparking "Unprecedented Escalation"
>
> https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-weighs-retaliation-us-orders-closure-houston-consulate
>
>


Re: communicating with police officers, narratives, discrimination

2020-07-25 Thread Karl
How does this expression land for this being a cryptoanarchist list?

1 in line reply below.

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people see on their devices.  A virus that alters political behavior en
masse, for profit.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 12:44 PM Zenaan Harkness  wrote:

> Some people seem to like to direct their anger at external authorities, or
> treat certain other humans with disdain because they've had a bad
> experience with someone else of the same profession/job/ race/ sex/
> whatever.
>
> There are bad apples around, but


Here you begin treating people with disdain ("bad apples") which you
criticize doing in the paragraph prior.

Let's not treat people with disdain.

I've bumped into some really nice police officers.  It seems highly
unfortunate they direct people to prisons instead of mediation.

I have not found any avenue to mediate with police.  We need police
officers who can break the thin blue wall of silence, to reach
censorship-resistant communication channels.

it may be in your personal interest to keep in mind that many police
> officers at least originally joined the police because they either wanted
> to make a positive difference in their community, and/or they actually
> wanted to see righteousness upheld in their community and the obvious
> corollary, to see unrighteousness be held to account.
>
> Such principles at least in their essence are honourable, and with
> inherent dignity.
>
>
> As many with open eyes can see, there are powerful forces at work today,
> particularly in the USA, which are acting with the intention to bring about
> great chaos in your communities, and one way they do this is by using their
> dogs in the media to try to program the sheeple to see external authorities
> as purely negative and without any redeeming factors.
>
> Such dichotomies or black and white absolutes, are obviousy false even at
> a quick glance, and we do no favour to ourselves, or to those we care
> about, to hold to such black/white bullshit.
>
> When roaming gangs come to the door of you and those you love, a natural
> instinct for many is to immediately seek the support of external
> authorities which at least nominally are intended to be in such a role of
> support.
>
>
> We are all human, with human failings and human tendencies.
>
> We ought consider carefully the "mainstream media" narratives we are fed,
> and the foundation intentions which might be underlying the messages put to
> us.
>
> We each play a role in creating our world, and sitting on the fence "as a
> mugwud bird, with his mug on one side, and his wud on the other side of
> that fence, pretending to be impartial" is an actual choice, and in this
> sense is a very real action, with very real consequences - because you see,
> he might think he is "impartial", but he still shits on one side of the
> fence...
>
>
> Our maker endowed us with some capacity for discrimination, and perhaps
> now is a useful time to get back to using this power of discrimination, to
> actively discriminate between right and wrong, truth and bullshit, good and
> evil.
>
>
>


Re: covid masks, Mikovits, considerations -- Re: give a listening ear to those who might "struggle" -- Fw: Interesting

2020-07-25 Thread Karl
Zen, you're in AU? I'm in US and tend to harmfully assume that others are.

Masks are economically competitive: like shoes, if you can get all your
citizens to wear them then slightly fewer people stop working sometimes due
to a problem from not.

Inhaling CO2 just gets you a little tired etc: it doesn't put you out of
work.


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responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what
people see on their devices.  A virus that alters political behavior en
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On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 11:41 AM Zenaan Harkness  wrote:

> If you're frustrated, a bit fearful or even angry, the following discussion
> with the ever informative Leo may assist in getting grounded on the issue
> of
> masks during this covid lock down.
>
> We can't do more than we can do - higher authorities are in play here -
> but we
> do what we can for one another, the Aussie way.  We live in a great
> country of
> great people with big hearts and a larrikin way, and there ain't no need
> to go
> gettin all depressed now, especially when you know you're just one shopping
> trip away from bumping into some amazing legend in their own mind - it's
> uplifting :D
>
> If you're the type who music can be a pick up, perhaps a little country
> music:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjWY9udugZ0 "Thank God I’m a Country Boy
> (Aussie Version)".
>
> The short version of the convo below is this:
>
>"If I am infected, and if I wear a mask when close to others, they
> might be
>a bit less likely to get infected too".
>
> So take heart y'all,
>
>
>
> > > > > On 21/07/2020 10:39 am, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > > > > > Be alert.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the face of extended uncertainty and lack of the truth being
> told
> > > > > > to us, some folks can get a bit stressed out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By reaching out when you get that nudge or "sharing a little
> support"
> > > > > > i.e. you're own groundedness, simple preparations ("hey, a
> little rice
> > > > > > and water can go a long way, right?") and reminders, you may
> lessen
> > > > > > the fright, the shock, and or the "madness" that some folks
> might tend
> > > > > > towards.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Keep it conservative/real, especially for those who are not
> inclined
> > > > > > to "think for themselves" much - you know the sort - sometimes a
> few
> > > > > > simple words like "we'll be right, we're Aussies, and we will
> pull
> > > > > > through this together, like we always have" can be enough to
> lighten
> > > > > > the load.  May be confirm that they have your phone number in
> their
> > > > > > mobile - could make all the difference to their sanity, and if
> they
> > > > > > have a family at home, this might mean a meaningful difference to
> > > > > > their family.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Keep a disposable mask prominently displayed in your shirt
> pocket or
> > > > > > around your neck, not only so you can use it if needed at a
> moment's
> > > > > > notice, but to remind one another that we should look out for
> each
> > > > > > other, that perhaps we ought take our duty of care
> "responsibility to
> > > > > > one another" seriously - and a mask let's people know you're
> thinking
> > > > > > of them, not just yourself!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We do not whow how this virus might mutate into something much
> worse -
> > > > > > this is the big scientific difficulty with viruses, they can
> mutate on
> > > > > > a cycle of a few weeks, making any vaccine from even 6 months
> ago,
> > > > > > less than useful (vaccines are often not harmless, even when
> they are
> > > > > > ineffective).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So let's continue to give our best to each other, look out for
> each
> > > > > > other, this is just another journey.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Stay safe, be prepared, and do what your gut tells you is
> prudent,
> > > > > > moment by moment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you pray, then pray; if you meditate or contemplate, do that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good luck and may God's will prevail,
> > > > > > Zen
>
>
> > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 10:59:01AM +1000, Leo wrote:
> > > > > uuummm About the mask Zen
> > > > >
> > > > > I have the book Plague of Corruption by expert virologist Dr Judy
> Mikovits in
> > > > > the USA, she makes it clear, that once air born it simply mixes
> with oxygen
> > > > > and you inhale it at the same time, mask or no mask. I think
> forcing people to
> > > > > wear masks is more an exercise on population control and getting
> used to
> > > > > orders/directives from "daddy"
> > > > >
> > > > > The damage and weakening effect due to inhaling your own carbon
> dioxide would
> > > > > pose a far greater risk
> > > > > And would they really care about our health? When they poison us
> with toxic
> > > > > vaccinations and GMO food and destroyed diary products etc.

Re: Red Bull - Official Drank o' The Alt-Freakin-Right - "you know you love 'em Ossie sheilas"

2020-07-25 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 7/21/20 19:46, this fell into my inbox:> Oh yeah, the BLM awareness
raising campaign is starting to bear fruit, grape drank fruit to be
precise :D> > I ain't sure Red Bull does grape drank, but it looks like
it on day agenda now muffaduckas ;)[etc]

Welp, looks like Coca-Cola Energy it is for now, if I should be in the
mood. Though I'm trying to cut the sugar/carbs and caffeine as much as
circumstances allow, anyway...

-- 
Shawn K. Quinn 
http://www.rantroulette.com
http://www.skqrecordquest.com


Re: Red Bull - Official Drank o' The Alt-Freakin-Right - "you know you love 'em Ossie sheilas"

2020-07-25 Thread Karl
Hi Zig,

When you say BLM, you mean the recent movement that spawned around black
people being publically killed by police officers without due cause, nor
repercussion, is that correct?

I'm thinking that the people who support such killings would also support
cultures that suppress their discussion.

One more reply below.

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people see on their devices.  A virus that alters political behavior en
masse, for profit.


On Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 8:48 PM Zig the N.g  wrote:

> Oh yeah, the BLM awareness raising campaign is starting to bear fruit,
> grape drank fruit to be precise :D
>
> I ain't sure Red Bull does grape drank, but it looks like it on day agenda
> now muffaduckas ;)
>
> You know you love it...
>
>
>Red Bull Fires "Woke" Diversity Directors Who Tried To Push For BLM
> Support
>Paul Joseph Watson via Summit News,
>
> https://summit.news/2020/07/20/red-bull-fires-woke-diversity-directors-who-tried-to-push-for-blm-support/
>
> https://www.zerohedge.com/political/red-bull-fires-woke-diversity-directors-who-tried-push-blm-support
>
>   Red Bull has fired two ‘diversity directors’ who tried to force the
> company into virtue signaling about Black Lives Matter while also
> dissolving several ‘culture teams’ who were pressuring Red Bull to take a
> more aggressive ‘woke’ political stance.
>
>   Stefan Kozak, its North America chief executive, and Amy Taylor, its
> North America president and chief marketing officer, have both left the
> Austrian drinks company after they tried to create a schism within the


Here the article says the person who, below, is quoted as having worked
continuously on inclusion, "tried to create a schism", while to me it seems
obvious they were struggling to do the opposite.

I'm noticing that creating schisms is what these articles are doing
_themselves_, and the news even reports the people leaving their jobs, very
schismy.  Maybe for the author it was a relief somehow to be able to
mention the community fragmentation behavior stimulating the article itself.

business about its supposed “inaction on the Black Lives Matter movement.”
>
>   According to the Wall Street Journal, “Ms. Taylor had been working
> on diversity and inclusion efforts within the company with Mr. Kozak’s
> support for several years but was met with opposition when she began
> advocating for Red Bull to be more overt in its support of racial justice
> in the last month, according to people familiar with the matter.”
>   https://archive.fo/kW9oK
>
>   ..
>
>
>
>
>
> Now jis lark Biden pullin sum serious poll numbers which be crucifyin'
> Trump's black approval rate-in's, this "dastardly, ebil, nasty muffaducka"
> move by Red Bull is totally gonna crucify dey sales ... or sum.thin ...
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=thank%20god%20i%27m%20a%20country%20boy
>
>   Thank God I’m a Country Boy (Aussie Version)
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjWY9udugZ0
>
>
>
>
> Now here's one for the lads: exactly how you expect to have a good
> relationship with your sheila, if you __don't__ have a good relationhip
> with her fogies?
>
> Riddle me that muffaduckas ;)
>
> Create our world fellow Souls,
>
>
>


Re: end times "games" - tread very carefully, protect those you care about - [PEACE]

2020-07-25 Thread Karl
On Sat, Jul 25, 2020, 2:14 PM Karl  wrote:

> Removing you from "To:".
>

I did not mean to fail to do this, and am frustrated that I failed.  I have
done it now.


I spent yesterday trying to find a rootable high-end phone but it turns out
> the carrier shops don't sell those.
>


Re: end times "games" - tread very carefully, protect those you care about - [PEACE]

2020-07-25 Thread Karl
Zenaan, thanks for your reply.  I appreciate the way your raise a value of
rational discourse, which is important.

I raise a request for fairness: I have multiple issues from being "targeted
as an activist" myself.  This means you get on lists like the terrorist
watchlist and everything becomes harder, and you get randomly harmed by
groups you've never met who have somehow developed a view of you as
harmful.  You end up both mentally and physically injured, and it worsens.

I have a broken phone, 2 broken computers, and haven't spoken with most of
my friends in years.  Other people frighten me when I see them because of
my history.

Just look to the videos of cops brutalizing and murdering peaceful
protesters in America, for evidence of the situation.  It is _hard_ to
retain and share such evidence, very very hard, but is happening on a large
scale and has been for a long time.

My signature is below but more replies are below it within your quoted
email.

-

K

There is proof inside many peoples' electronics.  Proof that a marketing
group would contract development of a frightening virus.  A virus that
responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what
people see on their devices.  A virus that alters political behavior en
masse, for profit.


On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 10:03 AM Zenaan Harkness  wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 07:47:20PM -0400, Karl wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 1:58 AM Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> >
> > > Tucker Carlson and his children are now on the edge of being targetted
> > > again, this time by the NYT/ New York Times/ Jew York Times (literally
> > > owned
> > > by very wearthy and very well connected, Jews).
> > >
> > > The reckless attemp by a (((certain faction of this one not so little
> > > tribe))) to bring on the destruction of American civil society is an
> > > abomination begetting of great karma, but in the meantime we will all
> pay
> > > the price if they succeed.
> > >
> > > I live in Australia, thus unable to physically help.
> > >
> > > Those who care about good people, where you can, do your bit where you
> are
> > > in assisting in some small way in the protection of those good people
> who
> > > are targetted.
> > >
> > > This war is very real, though hard for many to see.
> > >
> > > The cost of failure is unimaginable to most folks.
> > >
> > > Jews, pull your own into line: Isaacson is clearly a disturbed
> individual.
> > > You may have (collectively) had ~4500 years of repeated success, but
> that
> > > does not mean things can't change.  Beware the wrath of heaven...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Tucker Carlson Livid; Dismantles The New York Times Over Alleged
> Plan
> > > To Dox Him
> > >
> > >
> https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tucker-carlson-livid-dismantles-new-york-times-over-planned-doxing
> > >
> > >   In November of 2018, an organized Antifa chapter known as "Smash
> > >   Racism DC" showed up at the home of Fox News host Tucker Carlson
> -
> > >   ringing his doorbell as their violent co-founder, Michael
> Isaacson -
> > >   who loves dead cops and called for VP Mike Pence's assassination
> -
> > > led
> > >   them in chants such as "Tucker Carlson, we will fight! / We know
> > > where
> > >   you sleep at night!"
> ...
> > >   "Generally speaking, Nazis will only actually attack people if
> they
> > >   strongly outnumber them because Nazis are essentially cowards.
> So if
> > >   it's three of them and a homeless guy, they're going to beat him
> up.
> > >   If it's one of them and like six other people, they're gonna run
> the
> > >   f*ck away," he told the Veritas journalist.
> > >
> > >   Throat punching is just a joke, huh? @lacymacauley seems to
> think
> > >   so, but our footage seems to say differently. What do you
> think?
> > >   pic.twitter.com/jNPUq1rlQQ
> > >   — Project Veritas (@Project_Veritas) January 19, 2017
> > >   https://t.co/jNPUq1rlQQ
> > >
> > >   And now, if the New York Times does indeed dox Carlson - an
> > > unemployed
> > >   Antifa leader with violent
> >
> >  ^-- casting anarchist groups as organized sources of
> > violence with specific leaders is a meme that stems from the authorities
> > hired to shrink their effectiveness
>
> So you say that Antifa is an "anarchist group".
>
> What exectly is "an anarchist group"?
>

I suppose people who collect around valuing non-government i.e. community
freedom.

> Zenaan, you imply you learned this from Fox News?
>
> Did you fail to read the very first link to Zerohedge, and after that, the
> paste of the full Zerohedge story from that link then pasted?
>

Sorry; thinking too quickly.  The Zerohedge article that defends a Fox News
host from a group of people expressing that the host was putting them in
danger, and leaves out what the claimed danger is, appears to randomly
assume that a professor supporting antifa is a cofounder who leads 

IQNets, Tor, "Dumpster Fires"

2020-07-25 Thread Karl
Hi,

Long story short:

A Tor dev "pastly" on OFTC muted me ("remotecontrolledboy") in their off
topic channel relating to asking about an event some years ago with
coderman.  pastly and I also had some positive interactions supporting
users of Tor and did not stop me from slightly raising the bar.

I'm thinking of posting something like this in their main channel:

"pastly, some of our experienced people running an onion host were recently
deanonymized by DHS.  zenaan harkness has collected a number of needed
improvements to Tor to prevent such deanonymization in a project called
IQNets.  we understand that handling this is difficult and are happy to
eventually resolve it ourselves, but things could go a lot better if we
worked together.  The history of the nascent IQNets project is stored in
the on-chain repositories managed by bsv
address 1CQKe1veVPUaxpeYXeqAHnA4SJQpnbfZ2v.  dumpster fires are for staying
anonymous in many different ways.  would you be willing to unmute me in
#tor-offtopic?"

I tried to post the private key to that address when I posted the
exconfidetial repo.  Not attached to it.

If no clear reply is received by me I'll take it as indication to proceed
however I feel.

Thank you.

-

K

There is proof inside many peoples' electronics.  Proof that a marketing
group would contract development of a frightening virus.  A virus that
responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what
people see on their devices.  A virus that alters political behavior en
masse, for profit.