Re: Apple Talks Shit About Privacy at CES
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 03:56:48PM -0300, Punk wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 22:38:13 +1100 > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 06, 2019 at 07:14:34PM -0300, Punk wrote: > > > On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 15:56:17 -0500 > > > grarpamp wrote: > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > Apple's focus on privacy is nothing new - > > > > > > please, spare us such retarded vomits. > > > > I guess folks round here might read it as: Apple's focus on providing > > just enough 'privacy' feels to encourage maximum product purchases, > > whilst staying 'compliant' with NSA + Co. > > > It's funny how the most 'successful' 'heroes' of the 'free market', > companies like apple, microsoft, google, facebook and the like do not provide > any value at all and have never ever produced a single 'innovation'. But but but, but Apple --invented-- privacy, yes? :D > microsoft's 'market cap' is 70 millions? THat's 70 of DESTROYED > value. > > I guess all those companies follow the coca-cola model. Build an empire > selling sugary water. Indeed :(
Re: Apple Talks Shit About Privacy at CES
On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 14:50:47 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote: > I would describe that episode as a publicity stunt cooked up by the FBI > and DoD contractor Apple. If I recall correctly, Apple claimed it > "could not" unlock the device in question; but after public attention > started to die down, a 3rd party forensics shop did unlock it. > > Meanwhile, back in the network security world, Declan Mccullagh reported: > > https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-deluged-by-police-demands-to-decrypt-iphones/ > > > "ATF says no law enforcement agency could unlock a defendant's iPhone, > but Apple can 'bypass the security software' if it chooses. Apple has > created a police waiting list because of high demand." plus https://www.yahoo.com/news/iphone-security-six-digit-pass-153539020.html "apple shitPhones protected by a six-digit pass code 'may' no longer be safe thanks to a cheap tool being marketed to police that can unlock a smartphone in just days." https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-ios-passcode-crack-revealed-234705097.html "A shitPhone can be unlocked with a virtual keyboard pretending to type lots of passcodes, a security researcher revealed Friday" > > :o) > > > > > > >
Re: Apple Talks Shit About Privacy at CES
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 02:50:47PM -0500, Steve Kinney wrote: > > > On 1/6/19 3:56 PM, grarpamp wrote: > > https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/05/apple-ces-2019-privacy-advertising/ > > https://www.engadget.com/2016/02/18/fbi-apple-iphone-explainer/ > > https://www.android.com/security-center/ > > https://source.android.com/security > > https://apple.com/privacy > > > > "What happens on your iPhone, stays on your iPhone." > > > That privacy priority came > > into clear focus three years ago when Apple refused to assist the FBI > > in unlocking an iPhone that belonged to a suspected terrorist in San > > Bernardino, CA. > > I would describe that episode as a publicity stunt cooked up by the FBI > and DoD contractor Apple. If I recall correctly, Apple claimed it > "could not" unlock the device in question; but after public attention > started to die down, a 3rd party forensics shop did unlock it. > > Meanwhile, back in the network security world, Declan Mccullagh reported: > > https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-deluged-by-police-demands-to-decrypt-iphones/ > > > "ATF says no law enforcement agency could unlock a defendant's iPhone, > but Apple can 'bypass the security software' if it chooses. Apple has > created a police waiting list because of high demand." They've also significantly decreased the security of their devices with face ID and fingerprint ID, both of which can be faked with relative ease, the easiest way being simply manhandling a persons hand or face into position be LEO (or other nefarious actor). https://www.macrumors.com/2018/12/16/3d-printed-head-android-face-id/ https://www.macrumors.com/2017/11/27/face-id-iphone-x-fooled-by-mask/ > > :o) > > > > > > > -- GPG fingerprint: 17FD 615A D20D AFE8 B3E4 C9D2 E324 20BE D47A 78C7 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Apple Talks Shit About Privacy at CES
On 1/6/19 3:56 PM, grarpamp wrote: > https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/05/apple-ces-2019-privacy-advertising/ > https://www.engadget.com/2016/02/18/fbi-apple-iphone-explainer/ > https://www.android.com/security-center/ > https://source.android.com/security > https://apple.com/privacy > > "What happens on your iPhone, stays on your iPhone." > That privacy priority came > into clear focus three years ago when Apple refused to assist the FBI > in unlocking an iPhone that belonged to a suspected terrorist in San > Bernardino, CA. I would describe that episode as a publicity stunt cooked up by the FBI and DoD contractor Apple. If I recall correctly, Apple claimed it "could not" unlock the device in question; but after public attention started to die down, a 3rd party forensics shop did unlock it. Meanwhile, back in the network security world, Declan Mccullagh reported: https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-deluged-by-police-demands-to-decrypt-iphones/ "ATF says no law enforcement agency could unlock a defendant's iPhone, but Apple can 'bypass the security software' if it chooses. Apple has created a police waiting list because of high demand." :o) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Apple Talks Shit About Privacy at CES
On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 22:38:13 +1100 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Sun, Jan 06, 2019 at 07:14:34PM -0300, Punk wrote: > > On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 15:56:17 -0500 > > grarpamp wrote: > > > > . > > > > > > Apple's focus on privacy is nothing new - > > > > please, spare us such retarded vomits. > > I guess folks round here might read it as: Apple's focus on providing > just enough 'privacy' feels to encourage maximum product purchases, > whilst staying 'compliant' with NSA + Co. It's funny how the most 'successful' 'heroes' of the 'free market', companies like apple, microsoft, google, facebook and the like do not provide any value at all and have never ever produced a single 'innovation'. microsoft's 'market cap' is 70 millions? THat's 70 of DESTROYED value. I guess all those companies follow the coca-cola model. Build an empire selling sugary water. > > :)
Re: Apple Talks Shit About Privacy at CES
On Sun, Jan 06, 2019 at 07:14:34PM -0300, Punk wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 15:56:17 -0500 > grarpamp wrote: > > . > > > > Apple's focus on privacy is nothing new - > > please, spare us such retarded vomits. I guess folks round here might read it as: Apple's focus on providing just enough 'privacy' feels to encourage maximum product purchases, whilst staying 'compliant' with NSA + Co. :)
Re: Apple Talks Shit About Privacy at CES
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 15:56:17 -0500 grarpamp wrote: . > > Apple's focus on privacy is nothing new - please, spare us such retarded vomits.
