Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread grarpamp 
The truth is important.
Which begs at every point in time, which is more valuable?...
Continuing to refine relatively small discontinuities in the
knowledge of a few disciples of truth (verily decentralized
Messiahs might they become), or going forward out to the
masses, now, within one's own lifetime, such that the
sheepledom might begin a much larger, earlier, shift toward
truth, from their starting point of zero before?

Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread juan 
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 18:23:09 -0500
grarpamp  wrote:

> What is your solution?

I don't have any grand central plan, but I do have an
observation. First step in getting solutions is people knowing
the truth. That's why it's so imporant, for instance, to get
rid of jew-kristian anti culture. And of course the same
principle applies to any kind of tyranny and 'authority'.

Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread James A. Donald 

On 12/26/2017 9:23 AM, grarpamp wrote:

What is your solution?


While one should avoid war with outgroups, (rule of acquisition thirty 
five) takes two to avoid war.


Democratic party policy is to hike tribalism up to the max, to have 
integration but resist assimilation.  This is a program bound to end in 
war, democide, and genocide.


Assimilation works, integration does not. If two tribes occupy 
overlapping territories, either war will ensue, or one will rule, and 
the other be second class and forced into submissive posture.  That is 
human nature.


Since tribalism is also human nature, need borders with walls backed by 
men with guns.


The peace of Westphalia is a general formula for peace between Kings, 
nations, peoples, cultures, tribes, and religions.  This social 
technology, one of Chesterton's many abandoned fences, needs to be 
revived and reapplied.


Lacking this, we are seeing increasing incidents of casual violence 
against white males, with those guilty getting away with it, being let 
off by police and judiciary.   This can only escalate.  One tribe must 
rule, one must submit.  The Democratic Party prescription is a 
prescription for genocidal and democidal war, and that war is beginning.



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Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread grarpamp 
What is your solution?

Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread juan 
On Tue, 26 Dec 2017 04:56:16 +1000
"James A. Donald"  wrote:

> On 12/26/2017 2:04 AM, juan wrote:
> > what the fuck are you talking about? The piece of
> > right wing shit james donald is the invader. He and the
> > rest of european shit who invaded america are the invaders.
> 
> The alliance between La Raza, Black Lives Matter, and the Democrats, 

" The 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery, passed in 1865 with
100% Republican support but only 23% Democrat support in
congress."

"The Ku Klux Klan was originally and primarily an arm of the
Southern Democratic Party. Its mission was to terrorize freed
slaves and "nigger-loving" (their words) Republicans who
sympathized with them."


that's your party, you white, joo-kristian, ameri-cunt scum
donald.

Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread juan 
On Tue, 26 Dec 2017 05:56:52 +1000
"James A. Donald"  wrote:

> On 12/26/2017 5:01 AM, juan wrote:
> > a piece of shit like you surely deserves to be beaten to
> > death
> > - as to 'your' stuff, it's not yours since it's the result
> > of anti-free-market looting.
> 
> Pretty sure you have the same evidence that any white person's stuff
> is the result of looting as you have that my stuff is the result of
> looting.
> 

tell me about lysander spooner 





> Also, the Clinton's stuff and Bernie's stuff actually is the result
> of looting, so chances are that the holiness spiral in the Democrats
> will result in you eating the people who are competent to organize
> you to take my stuff.
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Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread James A. Donald 

On 12/26/2017 5:01 AM, juan wrote:

a piece of shit like you surely deserves to be beaten to death
- as to 'your' stuff, it's not yours since it's the result of
  anti-free-market looting.


Pretty sure you have the same evidence that any white person's stuff is 
the result of looting as you have that my stuff is the result of looting.


Also, the Clinton's stuff and Bernie's stuff actually is the result of 
looting, so chances are that the holiness spiral in the Democrats will 
result in you eating the people who are competent to organize you to 
take my stuff.


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Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread juan 
On Tue, 26 Dec 2017 04:56:16 +1000
"James A. Donald"  wrote:

> On 12/26/2017 2:04 AM, juan wrote:
> > what the fuck are you talking about? The piece of
> > right wing shit james donald is the invader. He and the
> > rest of european shit who invaded america are the invaders.
> 
> The alliance between La Raza, Black Lives Matter, and the Democrats, 


except the americunt "democrats" are exactly the same kind of
right wing nazi you are. Only a monkey like you would fail to
understand the fact that the US is ruled by One Party. Or would
be stupid enough to pretend that he's not 99% in agreement with
the "democrats" - remember fucktard, the 'democrats' are the
pro-slavery southern party - your party. 






> resembles the alliance between the Populares and the Samnites.
> 
> The Populares and the Optimates were political parties in Roman
> Empire, "Populare" meaning "People's party"  The Populares
> corresponded to today's Democrats, the coalition of the fringes,
> weirdoes versus normal people, minorities versus the majority, the
> coalition of high and low against middle.
> 
> The Populares wanted to give the Samnites (equivalent to today's La 
> Raza) a fairer deal within the Roman Empire.
> 
> The Samnites wanted to level the walls of Rome, kill all male Romans, 
> and enslave all Roman women.
> 
> When civil war between the political parties, between the Optimates
> and the Populares ensued, the alliance between Populares and Samnites
> proved less than entirely helpful.
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Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread juan 
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 13:47:13 -0500
grarpamp  wrote:

> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs
> 
> > then you need to add the ... then you need to add millions
> > of ... and the millions of cunts from ...
> > then you need to add all the...
> 
> Yes, the entire world is infested with vermin and retards,


so why do you post factually wrong garbage? 



> including the self proclaimed special ones making up the tiny dots.
> What is your solution to that problem?

Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread juan 
On Tue, 26 Dec 2017 04:18:05 +1000
"James A. Donald"  wrote:

> On 12/26/2017 2:04 AM, juan wrote:
> 
> > what the fuck are you talking about? The piece of
> > right wing shit james donald is the invader. He and the
> > rest of european shit who invaded america are the invaders.
> 
> Which implies that you, having some South American Indian blood,
> should kill us and take (back) our stuff.


a piece of shit like you surely deserves to be beaten to death
- as to 'your' stuff, it's not yours since it's the result of
  anti-free-market looting. 

but that's not really the point here - the point is that you
scum are the invaders. 

a related point is : why does an utter anti-libertarian fascist
like you pose as even pseudo 'libertarian' 'cpunk'? Your
natural habitat is the KKK.
 




> 
> Before we came, your ancestors were eating each other.  You did not
> have the wheel, you failed to domesticate the sheep, the goat, or the
> buffalo.
> 
> You don't actually have the competence or social cohesion to cause us 
> problems, except that the democrats have created a alliance of low
> and high against middle, and alliance of far against near, and this
> alliance is run by white people, as is obvious from photographs of
> the "hispanics" exercising power in that alliance.  When you take
> over that alliance, when high gets full of people affirmative
> actioned into positions of power, you will wind up eating the people
> who organized your alliance, eating those few remaining (mostly
> Jewish) democrats who are still competent.   Brown Berniedette will
> eat the Clintons and Bernie.
> 
> When the decadent Spanish let south America go, it fell apart, and
> order was restored by the power of the USA, and to a lesser extent by
> Soviet power.  If the confederacy had won the war of Northern
> Aggression, it then would have replaced the Spaniards in South
> America.
> 
> All wars are white on white wars.  Whites fight over other peoples,
> not with them.  Only the East Asians are competent in war, and they
> are still nowhere near as good at it as whites.  The Vietnam war was
> not really whites versus East Asians, it was really the blue empire
> of the consulates versus the red empire of the bases.  The Vietnamese
> were Soviet proxies, and the Soviets were blue empire proxies.
> Without Soviet backing, State Department backing, and Democratic
> Party backing, the Vietnamese would have been toast.
> 
> So bring it on.  It will end the way it did last time.
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Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread James A. Donald 

On 12/26/2017 2:04 AM, juan wrote:

what the fuck are you talking about? The piece of
right wing shit james donald is the invader. He and the rest of
european shit who invaded america are the invaders.


The alliance between La Raza, Black Lives Matter, and the Democrats, 
resembles the alliance between the Populares and the Samnites.


The Populares and the Optimates were political parties in Roman Empire, 
"Populare" meaning "People's party"  The Populares corresponded to 
today's Democrats, the coalition of the fringes, weirdoes versus normal 
people, minorities versus the majority, the coalition of high and low 
against middle.


The Populares wanted to give the Samnites (equivalent to today's La 
Raza) a fairer deal within the Roman Empire.


The Samnites wanted to level the walls of Rome, kill all male Romans, 
and enslave all Roman women.


When civil war between the political parties, between the Optimates and 
the Populares ensued, the alliance between Populares and Samnites proved 
less than entirely helpful.


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Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread grarpamp 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs

> then you need to add the ... then you need to add millions of ...
> and the millions of cunts from ...
> then you need to add all the...

Yes, the entire world is infested with vermin and retards,
including the self proclaimed special ones making up the tiny dots.
What is your solution to that problem?

Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread juan 
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 13:30:42 -0500
grarpamp  wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 1:15 PM, juan  wrote:
> > invaders?
> > mexicans or europeans
> 
> Body counts left in their wake should answer that.


what's wrong with you? don't have the balls to give a straight
answer?

Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread grarpamp 
On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 1:15 PM, juan  wrote:
> invaders?
> mexicans or europeans

Body counts left in their wake should answer that.

Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread juan 
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 12:58:16 -0500
grarpamp  wrote:


> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs
> Too bad they forgot about how to handling the tiny dot.

wow - that's motherfuckinly retarded - can't people THINK
before posting.

grarpamp you've linked yet another piece of garbage 

the people who call themselves "the americunt government" ARE
NOT A TINY DOT. THEY ARE NOT A 'TINY" % of the number of
'taxpayers' at all.

Do your fucking homework and learn how many TENS OF MILLIONS of 
parasites there are. 


here's a start :

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-veterans-numbers/story?id=14928136

Those Who Have Served : 22,658,000 (murdering non-joo-kristian
brwon  children)

Those in Uniform Right Now : 2,317,761

then you need to add the cops, then you need to add millions of
bureaucrats in thousands of 'departments',  and the millions of 
cunts from public 'education'. 

then you need to add all the government 'contractors'. 

et cetera

Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread James A. Donald 

On 12/26/2017 2:04 AM, juan wrote:


what the fuck are you talking about? The piece of
right wing shit james donald is the invader. He and the rest of
european shit who invaded america are the invaders.


Which implies that you, having some South American Indian blood, should 
kill us and take (back) our stuff.


Before we came, your ancestors were eating each other.  You did not have 
the wheel, you failed to domesticate the sheep, the goat, or the buffalo.


You don't actually have the competence or social cohesion to cause us 
problems, except that the democrats have created a alliance of low and 
high against middle, and alliance of far against near, and this alliance 
is run by white people, as is obvious from photographs of the 
"hispanics" exercising power in that alliance.  When you take over that 
alliance, when high gets full of people affirmative actioned into 
positions of power, you will wind up eating the people who organized 
your alliance, eating those few remaining (mostly Jewish) democrats who 
are still competent.   Brown Berniedette will eat the Clintons and Bernie.


When the decadent Spanish let south America go, it fell apart, and order 
was restored by the power of the USA, and to a lesser extent by Soviet 
power.  If the confederacy had won the war of Northern Aggression, it 
then would have replaced the Spaniards in South America.


All wars are white on white wars.  Whites fight over other peoples, not 
with them.  Only the East Asians are competent in war, and they are 
still nowhere near as good at it as whites.  The Vietnam war was not 
really whites versus East Asians, it was really the blue empire of the 
consulates versus the red empire of the bases.  The Vietnamese were 
Soviet proxies, and the Soviets were blue empire proxies.  Without 
Soviet backing, State Department backing, and Democratic Party backing, 
the Vietnamese would have been toast.


So bring it on.  It will end the way it did last time.

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Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread juan 
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 12:58:16 -0500
grarpamp  wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 11:04 AM, juan  wrote:
> >> to try physically invading US
> >
> > lawl - what the fuck are you talking about
> 
> You could probably find winning and losing scenaries
> searches like...
> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=invading+america


now  you link a retarded search query? 

again - what *the fuck* is your point

it's quite clear what sort of fascist cunt james donald is, and
it's quite clear that his apology of surveillance and statism
in the 'cpunks' mailing list surpasses even rayzxer's constant,
mind-numbing trolling.

Now, what's *your* reply to the criminally deranged notion that
people who ignore the borders of the american nazi state are
'invaders'?   As far as I can tell you belive, like the fascist
cunt donald does, that some 'mexicans' are 'invading' the US
while ignoring that it's the motherfucking europeans like
donald the ones who invaded america. 

Feel free to clarify your position.



> 
> Doesn't matter, whether due to internal and or external
> reasons, all fail in time. Maybe people will learn. Or not.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs
> Too bad they forgot about how to handling the tiny dot.

Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread grarpamp 
On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 11:04 AM, juan  wrote:
>> to try physically invading US
>
> lawl - what the fuck are you talking about

You could probably find winning and losing scenaries
searches like...
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=invading+america

Doesn't matter, whether due to internal and or external
reasons, all fail in time. Maybe people will learn. Or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs
Too bad they forgot about how to handling the tiny dot.

Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread juan 
On Sun, 24 Dec 2017 23:44:52 -0500
grarpamp  wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 10:40 PM, James A. Donald
>  wrote:
> > One such man is just a criminal, but when he is backed and
> > supported by other men in this common purpose, as he is, and thus
> > enjoys immunity and impunity through this mutual support for
> > violent men engaged in violent acts, he is an invasion, part of an
> > invading army.
> 
> Invaders, as one or many, and unless exceptionally strong, prey
> upon the availability of the weak.


what the fuck are you talking about? The piece of
right wing shit james donald is the invader. He and the rest of
european shit who invaded america are the invaders. 


why is utter right wing scum like james donald promoting
electronic surveillance and the borders of the US nazi state in
an allegdly 'libertarian' 'anarchist' 'cypherpunk' mailing
list? 


> Walls, borders, as single physical
> points perhaps, and certainly leaving multitude holes for easy access
> to the still unstrengthened existing masses of weak lambs / sheeple.


again, what are you talking about 



> However raising the all the weak individually, independantly mutually
> communally, to be self defensive, the raising of such an inhospitable
> environment to successful attack, rendering the first would be
> exploiters back from whence they came with a message of costly odds...
> this has not been tried, and all else has failed (those who claim
> to be your saviours, often aren't, or at least can't or are unwilling
> to prove it).
> 
> The US is an example, another nation state would be batshit insane
> to try physically invading 


lawl - what the fuck are you talking about  - oh wait you are an
apologist of the US nazi state, go figure?


> it due to the distributed prevalence of
> firearms, they only way they could win is to erase it with nukes and
> reboot it, or psyop the sheeple with claims of being their Messiah.
> 
> Here's one link to the case, is it Mexico invading, 


what - the - fuck 




or random
> snaps and issues across and part of all humanity...
> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kate-steinle-trial-jose-ines-garcia-zarate-not-guilty-fatal-pier-shooting/
> 
> What happens when Mexico is "invaded"...

Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-25 Thread grarpamp 
> Surveillance, patrol, walls

May end up operating like centralized egress filters and 1984,
often before those who built them are dead.

https://papersplease.org/
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_world

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Gates_of_Alexander

“The modern Chinese have done what people for centuries were
embarrassed to do and what the invaders could not do, the wall is
being destroyed by the hands of the descendants.”

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Wall

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment

Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-24 Thread James A. Donald 


On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 10:40 PM, James A. Donald  
wrote:

One such man is just a criminal, but when he is backed and supported by
other men in this common purpose, as he is, and thus enjoys immunity and
impunity through this mutual support for violent men engaged in violent
acts, he is an invasion, part of an invading army.


On 12/25/2017 2:44 PM, grarpamp wrote:

Invaders, as one or many, and unless exceptionally strong, prey
upon the availability of the weak. Walls, borders, as single physical
points perhaps, and certainly leaving multitude holes for easy access


If group A allows group B access, group A will be conquered.  Need to 
police borders.


Chimps patrol their borders.  We need to set up electronic surveillance. 
 And patrol.  And build a wall.


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Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-24 Thread grarpamp 
On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 10:40 PM, James A. Donald  wrote:
> One such man is just a criminal, but when he is backed and supported by
> other men in this common purpose, as he is, and thus enjoys immunity and
> impunity through this mutual support for violent men engaged in violent
> acts, he is an invasion, part of an invading army.

Invaders, as one or many, and unless exceptionally strong, prey
upon the availability of the weak. Walls, borders, as single physical
points perhaps, and certainly leaving multitude holes for easy access
to the still unstrengthened existing masses of weak lambs / sheeple.
However raising the all the weak individually, independantly mutually
communally, to be self defensive, the raising of such an inhospitable
environment to successful attack, rendering the first would be exploiters
back from whence they came with a message of costly odds...
this has not been tried, and all else has failed (those who claim
to be your saviours, often aren't, or at least can't or are unwilling
to prove it).

The US is an example, another nation state would be batshit insane
to try physically invading it due to the distributed prevalence of firearms,
they only way they could win is to erase it with nukes and reboot it,
or psyop the sheeple with claims of being their Messiah.

Here's one link to the case, is it Mexico invading, or random
snaps and issues across and part of all humanity...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kate-steinle-trial-jose-ines-garcia-zarate-not-guilty-fatal-pier-shooting/

What happens when Mexico is "invaded"...

Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-24 Thread James A. Donald 


On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 5:22 AM, James A. Donald  wrote:

I come in and go out by airport, where I already get survielled, so this
does not affect me in the slightest. In only affects people who are
swimming the Rio Grande and suchlike.


On 12/25/2017 1:22 PM, grarpamp wrote:> That's exactly what you and most 
sheeple said about the "law"

that was drafted and enacted to "get you surveilled", and the
"law" before that, and before that, etc.


This law keeps talking about physical locations on the physical border. 
The core thing it does is repeal any existing obstacles to building a 
wall and survieling that physical border.


The reason nation states exist is that people keep invading to help 
themselves to other people's stuff, as for example Jose Zarate, who came 
here to kill people like me and take our stuff, and has proceeded to do 
so with impunity.


One such man is just a criminal, but when he is backed and supported by 
other men in this common purpose, as he is, and thus enjoys immunity and 
impunity through this mutual support for violent men engaged in violent 
acts, he is an invasion, part of an invading army.



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Re: PapersPlease: “Continuous screening” means continuous surveillance and control

2017-12-24 Thread grarpamp 
On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 5:22 AM, James A. Donald  wrote:
> I cannot see how this impairs my rights, or anyone's rights, other than the
> right of invaders who hope to invade, kill me and take my stuff.

Many 'laws" around the world should not be interpreted by what they
claim to do on the tin and for the near term, but by what they can do
when grossly twisted by those who would wield them against you later.
Time and again this holds true. Few have learned that, thus they
continue to lose. It's time for something different.

> I come in and go out by airport, where I already get survielled, so this
> does not affect me in the slightest. In only affects people who are
> swimming the Rio Grande and suchlike.

That's exactly what you and most sheeple said about the "law"
that was drafted and enacted to "get you surveilled", and the
"law" before that, and before that, etc.