RE: [Brinworld] Car's data recorder convicts driver
Googling on (event data recorders automobiles) will give a lot of hits. For example: http://wpoplin.com/EventDataRecordersAutomotiveBlackBoxes.pdf These devices are a byproduct of the introduction of airbags - the airbag processor stores the data which led it to deploy the bag. This can include delta v vehicle speed engine speed brake use throttle position driver seatbelt use The cited report claims they only store the most recent 5 seconds of data, snapshotted at 1 second intervals. It notes that the data can thus be confusing - for example, if a wheel leaves the ground the speed reported can be way off, and if the driver pumps the brakes, the 'brake use' data is ambiguous. It's not clear whether they store data continuously, or just when the airbag deploys. OTOH, I seem to remember reports of drivers of high-end cars (Audis? BMWs?) getting their warranties invalidated because the main car computer noted that they had exceeded certain speeds during the break-in period. Its not just the airbag computer that can narc you out Peter
Destroying government computers
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/wed/business/ news_1b18hatch.html June 18, 2003, WASHINGTON - The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said yesterday he favors developing new technology to remotely destroy the computers of people who illegally download music from the Internet. If that's the only way, then I'm all for destroying their machines. If you have a few hundred thousand of those, I think people would realize the seriousness of their actions, he said. If Orrin Hatch proposes such a thing, we can propose technologies which identify those from .gov or .mil or other Congress/Gov't. domains and send lethal viruses and suchlike back to them to destroy their machines if they illegally connect to our machines. (A simple warning that government stooges, lawyers, judges, clerks, and any GS-xx employees are not allowed to connect should suffice. After that, if they connect, fuck their machines dead.) --Tim May Ben Franklin warned us that those who would trade liberty for a little bit of temporary security deserve neither. This is the path we are now racing down, with American flags fluttering.-- Tim May, on events following 9/11/2001
Re: Destroying computers
On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 07:41 AM, Major Variola (ret) wrote: At 01:07 AM 6/19/03 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: Methinks Mr Hatch is not a very bright man. A Southern senator. Need I say more? Except Utah is not in the South by anybody's definition. Of course, that astronomy Professor Usher would be pretty bummed when his research was toasted by an RIAA killbot, but then the Prof employs a provocatory surname, no? Collateral damage -hey, he could change his name, after all. Maybe to David Nelson :-) I was going to mention Prof. Usher in a follow-up I was mentally planning a few minutes ago. For those who may not have heard about him, he's a retired astronomy prof. who included a .MP3 of one of his own songs on his Web site. The record company conglomerate representing the negro minstrel named Usher somehow found his site, found that it had .MP3 files, and made the assumption the site was pirating the minstrel Usher's music. They fired off threatening letters and demanded action. Had Orrin Hatche's seek and destroy software been available, his site would have been toast. When the record company was informed of the truth, they proposed to send him a free Usher t-shirt. Just what a retired white astronomy prof wants, the t-shirt of a negro rap crapper. --Tim May
Re: Destroying government computers
We must not wait while dangers gather. They are either with us on computer security, or they are with the terrorists. We know they have these weapons for mass communications destruction and disruption and they have used them before. Preemptive actions are insufficient. Preventive actions are a right of self- defense. Isn't that the current world view legitimized by the US government? We don't sit still when a would-be attacker moves toward the cockpit, and there is no need to sit still waiting for our BIOS to be overwritten with nulls. Taking away offensive capabilities when potential attackers enter the concourse or trespass upon the chattel of our computers seems only reasonable and fully supportive of national security and public policy. Since we can't know whether it is our friends and heroic protectors, or terrorists, who are trying to destroy our communications, kill all the dangerous, evil machines that connect and let God sort them out. On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 01:07:49 -0400, you wrote: The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said yesterday he favors developing new technology to remotely destroy the computers of people who illegally download music from the Internet. Well, even if they COULD develope such a technology, wouldn't it only work for about a day or two before a patch was made to block it? Sounds awfully Dilbert-like. Methinks Mr Hatch is not a very bright man. If Orrin Hatch proposes such a thing, we can propose technologies which identify those from .gov or .mil or other Congress/Gov't. domains and send lethal viruses and suchlike back to them to destroy their machines if they illegally connect to our machines. Why wait? And of course, such an act would be our patriotic duty, because if we didn't, then The Terrorists certainly would when we were least prepared for it. -TD From: Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Destroying government computers Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:16:57 -0700 http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/wed/business/ news_1b18hatch.html June 18, 2003, WASHINGTON - The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said yesterday he favors developing new technology to remotely destroy the computers of people who illegally download music from the Internet. If that's the only way, then I'm all for destroying their machines. If you have a few hundred thousand of those, I think people would realize the seriousness of their actions, he said. If Orrin Hatch proposes such a thing, we can propose technologies which identify those from .gov or .mil or other Congress/Gov't. domains and send lethal viruses and suchlike back to them to destroy their machines if they illegally connect to our machines. (A simple warning that government stooges, lawyers, judges, clerks, and any GS-xx employees are not allowed to connect should suffice. After that, if they connect, fuck their machines dead.) --Tim May Ben Franklin warned us that those who would trade liberty for a little bit of temporary security deserve neither. This is the path we are now racing down, with American flags fluttering.-- Tim May, on events following 9/11/2001 _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: [NTLK] OT: Dictatorial Powers (fwd)
Nice (offtopic to that list) discussion over on the NewtonTalk mailing list :) --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :25Kliters anthrax, 38K liters botulinum toxin, 500 tons of /|\ \|/ :sarin, mustard and VX gas, mobile bio-weapons labs, nukular /\|/\ --*--:weapons.. Reasons for war on Iraq - GWB 2003-01-28 speech. \/|\/ /|\ :Found to date: 0. Cost of war: $800,000,000,000 USD.\|/ + v + : The look on Sadam's face - priceless! [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:56:52 -0500 From: Chip Matteson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NTLK] OT: Dictatorial Powers We nearly got that in Texas last month when the Republicans tried to Jerrymander out the Democrats. The Democrats actually had to go to Oklahoma to squash the quorum on redistricting. The Republican Governor, Rick Perry, sent the Texas Rangers to bring them back. Texas Rangers do not have jursdiciton in OK. It was also reported that Tom Delay, US house Republican, used the special powers granted to fight terrorism to get the Democrats out of Oklahoma. Land of the free! On 6/19/03 1:33 PM, Johannes Spielhagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag, 19.06.03 um 11:33 Uhr schrieb eric engle: What would you say to a constitutional amendment to give the president dictatorial powers? http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/6007732.htm This is a real cool thing. We had such a thing in Germany only a few years ago (around 1933-1945) as well (Notstandsverordnungen) and after that the whole country was not in the state (pun not intended) you would desire to find it. And funny, nobody liked us anymore. Johannes -- Chip Matteson Moonlight Photographics 811-R West Kings Hwy San Antonio, TX 78212 On the web: www.moonlightphoto.net/ E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 210-733-7358 Work 210-733-9982 Fax 210-602-9192 Mobile -- This is the NewtonTalk list - http://www.newtontalk.net/ for all inquiries List FAQ/Etiquette/Terms: http://www.newtontalk.net/faq.html Official Newton FAQ: http://www.chuma.org/newton/faq/
Re: Destroying computers
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 07:41:52 -0700, you wrote: At 01:07 AM 6/19/03 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: Methinks Mr Hatch is not a very bright man. A Southern senator. Need I say more? Yes, a little more. Do you mean southern Utah? Hey, any stereotype in a storm, eh?
