p2p and asymmetric bandwidth (Re: Fear and Futility at CodeCon)

2002-02-18 Thread Adam Back

I think the asymmetric up/down speed is not as much a problem for
peer2peer as anonymous fears.  Morpheus has demonstrated that the
approach of having a single request served by multiple servers works
well.  A cable modem users download speed can be merrily supplied by
dozens of even dialup, or other cable modem users thin pipe uploads
speeds.

Morpheus seems to be able to tunnell through even to corporate
firewalls with the approach (I presume) that the firewalled /
unreachable host maintains a connection to the super-node, and when
someone wants to connect to it and can't they connect to the
super-node and the super-node tells the unreachable node over the
already open connection to connect back to the connecting machine.

Of course this can't work (without moving data via the super-node)
between two unreachable machines, but the balance seems to be
sufficiently in favor of reacable machines that I don't see it
currently presents a problem.

Adam

Anonymous writes:
 Few impressions after just closed CodeCon 2002 (http://codecon.org)
 
 - NATing is successfully choking P2P. All solutions require
 subpoenable and destroyable proxies. Address space is owned by whoever
 owns the network. If you have no address you can't publish.
 
 - It is to be expected that ISPs will further limit upload bandwidth.
 Even 50:1 download/upload max bandwidth ratio will not affect bona
 fide commercial apps and will fuck all P2P big time. This is trivial
 to do. Upload will become more and more expensive and in some
 juristictions subject to licensing (WHY DO YOU NEED 20 TEDDY BEARS?)




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Re: p2p and asymmetric bandwidth (Re: Fear and Futility at CodeCon)

2002-02-18 Thread Sampo Syreeni

On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Adam Back wrote:

and when someone wants to connect to it and can't they connect to the
super-node and the super-node tells the unreachable node over the
already open connection to connect back to the connecting machine.

Of course, that approach could be extended do the point where there is no
essential difference between a proxy (here, the supernode) and a usual
client.

Of course this can't work (without moving data via the super-node)
between two unreachable machines, but the balance seems to be
sufficiently in favor of reacable machines that I don't see it currently
presents a problem.

Yes, we still need one of the machines to be outside a firewall. I think
what anonymous is describing is the situation when each and every
non-corporate customer is behind a firewall owned by an ISP, corporations
shield their employees behind one of their own, where making a profit on
non-firewalled connectivity and/or proxies opens one up to expensive
lawsuits and where non-firewalled connectivity is too expensive to be
widely bought just for non-profit use. A balkanized Internet -- it's a
bleak prospect, and the signs are that's what we're slowly sliding
towards, at least at the moment.

Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], tel:+358-50-5756111
student/math+cs/helsinki university, http://www.iki.fi/~decoy/front
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Primate Research Says Competition Not Driving Force

2002-02-18 Thread James Choate


http://unisci.com/stories/20021/0218021.htm




WHY DO YOU NEED 20 TEDDY BEARS?

2002-02-18 Thread Optimizzin Al-gorithym

Upload will become more and more expensive and in some
juristictions subject to licensing (WHY DO YOU NEED 20 TEDDY BEARS?)

Because I like to keep one next to every firearm :-)




proxies and supernodes

2002-02-18 Thread Optimizzin Al-gorithym

At 02:37 PM 2/18/02 +0200, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Adam Back wrote:

and when someone wants to connect to it and can't they connect to the
super-node and the super-node tells the unreachable node over the
already open connection to connect back to the connecting machine.

Thanks for the explanation Adam.


Of course, that approach could be extended do the point where there is
no
essential difference between a proxy (here, the supernode) and a usual
client.

SS: every Morpheus app is both client, server, and supernode, by
default.
The latter two can be turned off, and the upload bandwidth can be
limited
as well.

Amazingly good download engine.




Re: Protection of the Righteous Act applies to Whole World, Say Prosecutors

2002-02-18 Thread Faustine

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Tim wrote:

2001 is misleading. I got my copy in July 1989 (so my copy says), and 
the copyright is 1985/86. She added a few items, but basically the book 
the book is very, very dated. 

There's nothing dated about the new chapters on events leading up to Sept.
11th. How much has scholarship on the history of the periods adressed changed
since 1989, anyway? If you know of a comparable work that's more current and a
better introduction to the subject, I'm sure a lot of people here would be
interested to hear of it. Ian Lesser's Countering the New Terrorism (which I
read when it came out in 1999) was another good, quick read which comes to
mind, but really more tactical than historical. Tonight, I was planning on
reading Albert Hourani's far more comprehensive History of the Arab
Peoples. Any other suggestions would be welcome. 


 An interesting sidenote: when Terry Anderson was being held hostage, the 
 1985 edition of this book was one of the few things his captors gave 
 him to read. 
Confirming my point about how old it is. It tells us nothing 
libertarians didn't already know: butt out. Or, in Washington's 
paraphrased words, avoid foreign entanglements. 


Sure. But just because one knows foreign meddling is likely to lead to disaster
doesn't mean the particular disasterous consequences of a given policy aren't
worth learning about. And learning from.  

~Faustine.



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He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from
oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that
will reach to himself.

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NYT: The Great Unwatched

2002-02-18 Thread Steve Schear

Surveillance is in the saddle. Responding to the latest Justice Department 
terror alert, Washington police opened the Joint Operation Command Center 
of the Synchronized Operations Command Complex (S.O.C.C.). In it, 50 
officials monitor a wall of 40 video screens showing images of travelers, 
drivers, residents and pedestrians.

These used to be the Great Unwatched, free people conducting their private 
lives; now they are under close surveillance by hundreds of hidden cameras. 
A zoom lens enables the watchers to focus on the face of a tourist walking 
toward the Washington Monument or Lincoln Memorial.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/18/opinion/18SAFI.html




Re: NYTimes.com Article: U.S. Companies File in Bermuda to Slash Tax Bills

2002-02-18 Thread Bill Stewart

At 12:06 AM 02/18/2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This article from NYTimes.com
has been sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I find it difficult to see why citizens should be treated any different 
then corporations whe it comes to their ability to shelter offshore income 
from the IRS.  Some in fact engage in buy-back transactions but they 
must be very careful at tax time.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

That's simple - corporations are fictitious persons.
If you, as a real person, want to stop being a US citizen and move 
somewhere else
that doesn't have an income tax, you can, but it's somewhat difficult and
may be a bigger change in your lifestyle than you want.
But if a US corporation wants to dissolve and sell its assets to a Bermuda
corporation, and have the Bermuda corporation operate in the US as a foreign
corporation, while its fictitious person is lying on the beach in the islands,
it'll keep a bunch of lawyers and accountants busy for a little while
they learn new tricks, but it's not too much more trouble than being a
Delaware corporation instead of a California corporation.

So what can _you_ do if you want to shelter _your_ income by having it 
emigrate?
If you're a direct employee of a US corporation, like I am,
you won't be able to do much about your wages, but if you're a contractor
or consultant, you may already own a corporation you're using to bill your 
customers
and pay your business expenses and pay you, so you could replace that with a
tax-haven corporation, whether that's Anguillan, Bermudan, Caymans, etc.

But you can also create a non-US corporation and use it for your investments.
You can't simply put your money in a Caymans bank and have the interest be 
tax-exempt,
because it's still income to you, so the Feds can tax it.
But you if you invest your money in a corporation, chartered in some 
appropriate
country, and that corporation put the money in a bank, and earns interest,
there's no US connection even though you own the corporation,
so until you tell it to pay you dividends, you're not getting taxed,
and the interest can compound at full rate instead of after-taxes,
which can be a big win if you're getting much interest.
Similarly, if the corporation invests in things that make capital gains,
those aren't taxable - only the dividends that you as a stockholder get paid
are taxable.  That doesn't help directly if you've got one winning investment -
but if you're in the more typical situation where some of your investments win
and some of them lose, and they don't conveniently do so in the same tax year,
you're still able to balance them out instead of doing the US lame 
carryover-loss.

All of this is perfectly legal tax avoidance, assuming you do it properly.
It used to be more difficult than it is today - but there's now a decent
communications infrastructure, and you can do things like get a Visa card
on the tax-haven bank account so you don't have to wire money around
when you want to spend it, and while it may be more expensive to set up
some of these corporations than your typical $50 Delaware Corporation,
it's not too expensive compared to the amount a typical Silicon Valley 
investor of
3-5 years ago could save on tax-sheltering.  On the other hand,
if all your money is invested in businesses that are losing their shirts,
it's a bit less help :-) though it can still be useful for stretching your 
losses
to cover future capital gains.

Of course, there are other aspects of overseas corporations as an investment,
such as illegal tax evasion, sheltering assets where they're hard to reach
in lawsuits and other court judgements, laundering money for Bad People,
running scams where the victims' money ends up in your hard-to-reach
overseas corporation, ripping of your country's money when you're a politician,
scamming people to pay the up-front money to collect the money your relatives
allegedly ripped off when they were live politicians, and then the
also-occasionally popular sports of running banks or investment 
corporations
in tax-haven countries that fold up and disappear, ripping off their investors.
It's much more difficult to get money back in those cases,
since you're forced to deal with courts that are far away and may be corrupt,
but most of the popular tax-haven countries are good at protecting investors
because they want lots of repeat business (or if they're not,
they cease being popular pretty fast...)




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Anti-Censorship Peek-A-Booty goes public

2002-02-18 Thread matt taylor


Source:
http://www.tomshardware.com/technews/index.html

Peek-A-Booty, cDc's much vaunted anonymity app, is vaporware no more - it went public at the landmark CodeCon conference in San Francisco's DNA Lounge on Sunday. 
Peek-A-Booty is designed to let surfers access sites blocked by government restrictions, and is essentially, a distributed proxy network. It uses a peer-to-peer model, masking the identity of each node. This means the user can route around censorship that blocks citizens' access to specific IP addresses, because the censor doesn't know they're going there. MORE

http://news.openflows.org/article.pl?sid=02/02/18/1944204mode=thread

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Censored cartoonist speaks

2002-02-18 Thread matt taylor

http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=02/02/18/3091691
EXTRACT
Legal charges against Independent Media Center Switzerland aroused some 
questions:
1 - How long will IMC Switzerland remains independent?
2 - Is it really possible to carry on a project of a TRUE independent media?
3 - How to fight external censorship against IMC?
4 - How to fight INTERNAL censorship?
5 - In what is based editorial criteria of IMC to hidden hatred posts?
6 - Is IMC able to determine what is criticism to Israel policy and what is 
anti-Semitism? 




Guide to Closed Circuit Television (CCTV) destruction.

2002-02-18 Thread matt taylor

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2002-02-18 Thread Hahaha

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EZ-Jackster, Assasination Politics, Michael Eisner, Disney: propoganda for impressionable minds

2002-02-18 Thread Optimizzin Al-gorithym

Just caught the very tail of the Disney (TM) cartoon wherein a
prepubescent nigga
loses a prepubescent negress's sugah because he uses EZ Jackster, an
obvious
Napster metaphor.

This was, we think, once mentioned herein.  However this is our personal
first exposure.
Our reaction follows.

We propose that the next generation of invisible, deniable, distributed
P2P apps be named Jackster, or Eisner,
and they they include a Bid-on-Michael-Eisner's-Death-TimeMethod
feature.  Or members
of his family.  This feature should be named APDisney.

Be seeing you

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Slashdot | Americans And Chinese Internet Censorship

2002-02-18 Thread Jim Choate

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RE: Slashdot | Americans And Chinese Internet Censorship

2002-02-18 Thread Aimee Farr

Choate:

Continuing the.no wonder they hate us so much thread.

  http://slashdot.org/yro/02/02/19/0122238.shtml?tid=153 

This is mostly off the top of my head, so I invite others to add
insight/correct mistakes:

Riding the opium and human trade, missionaries and Western influence gave
China a culture shock, which caused the Taiping Rebellion of 1850 -- 40
million dead. Guerrilla activity lasting through 1864. A man named Hung
Hsiu-ch'uan(?) had a religious vision where he was the son of God and the
younger brother of Jesus Christ. They called themselves God Worshippers
and raised a substantial army. It bled China so bad they had to go to the
West for money, because they were fighting Moslem rebels in the North. (As
they are today.) Colonial powers used the weakness and leverage to grab
Burma (U.K.), Vietnam (French), Manchuria (Russia), etc. and so on, looting
the rest of the country. From 1865 on, China was divided up among Western
powers and exploited as a trinket-state. The cultural shock created multiple
rebellions, anti-foreigner attitudes and internal unrest. In 1900, the Boxer
Rebellion slaughtered missionaries. With the 1919 Peking University riots,
China had rejected the West. Then came Kai-shek v. Mao and a war with Japan.
A century of bloodshed caused by outside influence.

I'm not 'making excuses' for China.

~Aimee




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Re: Slashdot | Americans And Chinese Internet Censorship

2002-02-18 Thread Steve Furlong

Aimee Farr wrote:

snip China's problems starting 1850
 In 1900, the Boxer
 Rebellion slaughtered missionaries. With the 1919 Peking University riots,
 China had rejected the West. Then came Kai-shek v. Mao and a war with Japan.
 A century of bloodshed caused by outside influence.

Plus the policy of killing off baby girls. There weren't enough women
for all the young men in the late 1800's. This added to the general
frustration and aggression and let demagogues kick off rebellions and
revolutions.

Relevant today because of PRC's one-child policy.

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