Re: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick

[Steve Schear]

At 03:03 PM 5/21/2002 -0700, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
>NAI is now taking steps to remove the remaining copies of PGP from the
>Internet, not long after announcing that the company will not release its
>fully completed Mac OS X and Windows XP versions, and will no longer sell
>any copies of its PGP software.

Wonder is this will affect pgpi.com?

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Re: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick

[R. A. Hettinga]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

At 11:49 PM -0400 on 5/21/02, Luis Villa wrote, on FoRK:


> Well, yes, but you seem to be implying some sinister motive that
> not all of us are reading between the lines clearly enough to see
> :) I mean, otherwise, this just seems like a fairly garden-variety
> silly use of the DMCA by a large software company. What am I
> missing?

Not much.

A professor at Mizzou once taught us that there were three theories
of history: the conspiracy theory, where people conspire to control
events, succeed, and write history to hide the conspiracy; the
fuck-up theory, where people fuck up, fix it, and write history to
hide the fuck-up, and, the inevitable Hegelian synthesis (this was
the Swinging Socialist '70's after all), the fucked-up conspiracy,
where people conspire, fuck up, and then conspire to write history to
hide them both -- and usually fuck that up too.



So, no, I don't think that someone gave NAI "The Briefing", and then
they got fascist religion or something, compounded by the deaths of
thousands of martyrs at the World Trade Center. Though, frankly,
given how the libertarians were squeezed out by the statists at NAI
(for good marketing reasons, nobody really cares, market wise, about
privacy, much less strong cryptography for anything but their credit
card numbers at the moment), I'm sure the only people left standing
at the bar when they had last call for crypto at NAI were the people
who, before NAI, relied on the Federales for a material, if not
significant, portion of their profit margin.

I just see this as the anti-climax to a giant fucked-up conspiracy to
control crypto, and, in turn, it's the fuck-up that actually *makes*
history, in the form of some poor "copyright compliance" schmuck,
deep in the bowels of a cubicle-farm somewhere...

Cheers,
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Re: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick

[R. A. Hettinga]

At 9:43 AM +0530 on 5/22/02, Udhay Shankar N wrote:


> Does this include the free versions at, e.g, http://www.pgpi.com/ ? If it
> does not, why should this make any great difference, apart from making NAI
> look like even bigger horse's asses than they already do?

There's that, then. I suppose a perusal of the copyright notice for the
"free" version might be in order. Offhand, I don't remember anything about
the license...

Cheers,
RAH


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Re: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick

[R. A. Hettinga]

At 5:41 PM -0700 on 5/21/02, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote on FoRK:


> So what are they trying to do?
> I've totally not been following PGP,
> so I don't understand what they're doing.

O, I don't kno It looks, to *me* at least, like they're trying
to stamp out "unauthorized" copies of PGP on the net by threatening to send
people to jail. What does it look like to *you*?

:-).

Are we having fun yet, boys and girls? Is there an echo in this room? This
must be a closed universe, or something, 'cause I swear, I really do, I can
see my own backside, wy out there in the distance. I must be imagining
things, though. This couldn't be happening again...

Right?

Right?

Sheesh...

Cheers,
RAH

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Re: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick

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--
On 21 May 2002 at 15:03, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
> NAI is now taking steps to remove the remaining copies of PGP
> from the Internet, not long after announcing that the company
> will not release its fully completed Mac OS X and Windows XP
> versions?

Not a problem -- we have too many communication encryption
programs already.  Still a bit weak on disk encryption programs,
and of course, we have no transaction software.

We may suspect that someone is leaning on the big boys not to
provide encryption to the masses, but if so, it is a bit late.


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NAI pulls out the DMCA stick

[Meyer Wolfsheim]

NAI is now taking steps to remove the remaining copies of PGP from the
Internet, not long after announcing that the company will not release its
fully completed Mac OS X and Windows XP versions, and will no longer sell
any copies of its PGP software.

Do we still believe this was a pure cost-cutting measure?


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Re: Regarding maximum period LSFR's

[Mike Rosing]

On Tue, 21 May 2002, gfgs pedo wrote:

> Its regarding maximum period LSFR's (Linear feed back
> shift registers) used for generating
> pseudo random numbers.
> A tap sequence for an LFSR is the xor of certain bits
> in the register.
>
> For eg: I choose a primitive polynomail mod 2
>
> x^32+x^7+x^5+x^3+x^2+x+1 is a primitive polynomial mod
> 2(chosen from a table)
>
> It says for an LSFR to be a maximum  period LSFR,
> the polynomial from a tap sequence plus constant one
> must be a primitive polynomail mod 2

Right so far.

> How ever what is the polynomial formed the tap
> sequence & how is it found,I dont understand.

the tap sequence is just the bits from the polynomial:
x^32 + x^7 is the xor of 2 bits.  + x^5 is the xor of
a 3rd bit, and so on.  So you just do what the polynomial
says, add up the bits!

Then you shift them one place (multiply or divide by x basicly).
The new bit you computed is rotated in, and the ms or ls bit
is lost (depending on which way you shift).

> It further says the degree of the polynomail is the
> length of the shift register.

Yup.

> Here 32 is the degree,hence is a 32 bit shift
> register.
>
> It says a primitive polynomial  of degree n is
> irreducable  polynomial that divides
> (x^2)^(n-1)  +1 but not (x^d)+1 for any d that divides
>  (2^n-1)

Where did you find that?  It's irreducible if it
is a member of x^(2^n) + 1.  I didn't know there was that
simple a test for primitive.

> Now what is the polynomial of degree n?

Your tap sequence.

> I thought I already had  one with degree 32.

Yup, you do.

> which is the primitive polynomial of degree n that
> divides
> (x^2)^(n-1)  +1 but not (x^d)+1 for any d that divides
>  (2^n-1)
> and where did it come from?

It comes from cyclotomic polynomials and finding out that all the
irreducible polynomials combine to form a really simple expression.
Quite amazing really - that's one of those "beautiful" things in math.

I would like to know where you got it too.  Usually you have to test by
brute force if a polynomial is primitive or not.

Patience, persistence, truth,
Dr. mike

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Regarding maximum period LSFR's

[gfgs pedo]

hi,


Its regarding maximum period LSFR's (Linear feed back
shift registers) used for generating
pseudo random numbers.
A tap sequence for an LFSR is the xor of certain bits
in the register.

For eg: I choose a primitive polynomail mod 2

x^32+x^7+x^5+x^3+x^2+x+1 is a primitive polynomial mod
2(chosen from a table)

It says for an LSFR to be a maximum  period LSFR,
the polynomial from a tap sequence plus constant one
must be a primitive polynomail mod 2

so

polynomail from a top sequence+1=  
x^32+x^7+x^5+x^3+x^2+x+1  (as chosen earlier)

How ever what is the polynomial formed the tap
sequence & how is it found,I dont understand.

It further says the degree of the polynomail is the
length of the shift register.

Here 32 is the degree,hence is a 32 bit shift
register.

It says a primitive polynomial  of degree n is
irreducable  polynomial that divides
(x^2)^(n-1)  +1 but not (x^d)+1 for any d that divides
 (2^n-1)

Now what is the polynomial of degree n?

I thought I already had  one with degree 32.

which is the primitive polynomial of degree n that
divides
(x^2)^(n-1)  +1 but not (x^d)+1 for any d that divides
 (2^n-1)
and where did it come from?

Regards Data.


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