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Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders

2002-06-03 Thread jet

Last I knew, TiVo ran a customized Linux base OS, the source of most of which was 
publicly available. The recording app is proprietary, though, I think.

modified linux kernel + some other bits for booting.  Anything interesting is probably 
proprietary.  sources available from http://www.tivo.com/linux
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Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders

2002-06-03 Thread jet

At 0:24 -0700 2002/06/02, Marc wrote:
To be honest, the complaints about this are excessive. The problem
isn't that the TiVo recorded a promotional show, it's that it recorded a
show that has some semi-adult content in it and parental controls don't
restrict promotional recordings.

...and they did this at the request of the BBC who paid them to do it.

yeesh.  I don't think anyone came out of this looking good.


UltimateTV surprisingly is less intrusive, it doesn't have to use the
phone at all (except for standard DirecTV PPV calls) and uses the
downstream from the dish to verify subscriptions.

making it easier to bypass paying for service than it is on the TiVo, just activate 
the right tier and presto, UTV service.

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URGENT ASSISTANCE NEEDED

2002-06-03 Thread MRS MARIAM SESE SEKO

Dear friend,

I am Mrs. Sese-seko widow of late President Mobutu
Sese-seko of Zaire, now known as Democratic Republic
of Congo (DRC). I am moved to write you this
letter. This was in confidence considering my present
circumstance and situation. I escaped along with my
husband and two of our sons Solomon and Basher out of
Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) to Abidjan, Cote
d'ivoire where my family and I settled, while we later
moved to settled in Morroco where my husband later
died of cancer disease.

However, due to this situation we decided to change
most of my husband's billions of dollars deposited in
Swiss bank and other countries into other forms of
money coded for safe purpose because the new head of
state of (Dr) Mr Laurent Kabila has made arrangement
with the Swiss government and other European countries
to freeze all my late husband's treasures deposited in
some european countries. Hence, my children and I
decided laying low in Africa to study the situation
till when things gets better. Like now that
president Kabila is dead and the son taking over
(Joseph Kabila). One of my late husband's chateaux in
Southern France was confiscated by the french
government, and as such I had to change my identity so
that my investment will not be traced and confiscated.

I have deposited the sum Thirty Million United State
Dollars (US$30,000,000,00.) With a security company
for safe keeping. What I want you to do is to indicate
your interest that you can assist us in receiving the
money on our behalf, so that I can introduce you to my
son (Solomon) who has the out modalities for the claim
of the said funds. I want you to assist in investing
this money, but I will not want my identity revealed.
I will also want to acquire real/landed properties and
stock in multi-national companies and to engage in
other safe and non-speculative investments as advise
by your good self.

May I at this point emphasize the high level of
confidentiality, which this upcoming project demands,
and hope you will not betray the trust and
confidence, which I repose in you.In conclusion, if
you want to assist us, my son (Benson) shall divulge
to
you all briefs regarding this project, tell you where
the funds are currently being maintained and also
discuss remuneration for your services.For this reason
kindly furnish us your contact information,that is
your personal telephone and fax number for validation
purpose and acknowledge receipt of this mail using the
above email address.

Yours sincerely,

Mrs. Mariam M. Seseseko.





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URGENT ASSISTANCE NEEDED

2002-06-03 Thread MRS MARIAM SESE SEKO

Dear friend,

I am Mrs. Sese-seko widow of late President Mobutu
Sese-seko of Zaire, now known as Democratic Republic
of Congo (DRC). I am moved to write you this
letter. This was in confidence considering my present
circumstance and situation. I escaped along with my
husband and two of our sons Solomon and Basher out of
Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) to Abidjan, Cote
d'ivoire where my family and I settled, while we later
moved to settled in Morroco where my husband later
died of cancer disease.

However, due to this situation we decided to change
most of my husband's billions of dollars deposited in
Swiss bank and other countries into other forms of
money coded for safe purpose because the new head of
state of (Dr) Mr Laurent Kabila has made arrangement
with the Swiss government and other European countries
to freeze all my late husband's treasures deposited in
some european countries. Hence, my children and I
decided laying low in Africa to study the situation
till when things gets better. Like now that
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Southern France was confiscated by the french
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Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug analog hole, regulate A-D

2002-06-03 Thread Mike Rosing

On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Dave Emery wrote:

   And telling the public that they face serious jail time if they
 don't turn in that Creative Soundblaster from the old PC in the attic
 closet isn't going to fly.   The sheeple may be sheep but even they
 aren't going to accept that kind of nonsense from Hollywood or any
 corrupt congress.

   I'd even venture to say that if this issue breaks out into
 the big time and the public really is faced with crippled devices
 that don't work and mandatory obselescence of existing expensive
 computer and entertainment systems with potential jail time for
 use of old equipment that the backlash will be so intense that
 raw public votes will control over Hollywood money.

I think that's what boils down to the bottom line.  Because there are
so many units in place that can do the bypass, there will be enough time
to create a backlash.  There's already a backlash on protected CD's,
mostly by consumers who can't play them on older CD players.  It's just
not gonna fly with the public, so that may be all it takes to stomp
hollywood on this one.  Time will tell I guess.

Patience, persistence, truth,
Dr. mike





RE: 2 Challenge Gun Cases, Citing Bush Policy

2002-06-03 Thread Ed Stone

At 07:17 PM 6/2/02, Lucky Green wrote:
In United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1876), the Supreme Court
held that:

...

The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is
it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The
second amendment means no more than that it shall not be infringed by
Congress, and has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the
national government.

 the 2nd Amendment solely
constrains Congress from infringing upon the right to keep and bear arms
while leaving the Executive free to infringe upon this right, or deny
its exercise entirely, at will.

The Executive is part of the national government that Cruikshank says is 
restricted by the 2nd amendment, yes?

Under Cruikshank, Congress may not pass a bill infringing on the right
of the citizens to keep and bear arms, but a Presidential Executive
Order that all private citizens are to turn in their guns tomorrow
passes Constitutional muster.

Then Cruikshank didn't mean to include the President as part of the 
national government that it found to be restricted by the 2nd amendment?

ten years later in Presser v.
Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886).

The provision in the Second Amendment to the Constitution, that 'the
right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed,' is a
limitation only on the power of Congress and the national government,
and not of the States.

Again, Presser says the 2nd amendment restricts the president from such an 
executive order, yes?




European Data Retention and Encryption for Dummies

2002-06-03 Thread Tom

Hi everyone, I've been on this list before, but didn't have time for it
for a while. Now I'm back because I need some input:


You probably heard that the EU is currently passing data retention
laws. One part of them would require that ISPs keep logs of customer
traffic. It isn't entirely clear what exactly they need to store, but
the discussion goes into URL storage (i.e. what file on which virtual
host) and even full data storage (i.e. copies of the IP packets).

Obviously, at least the later is bullshit. However, it is absolutely
possible that it's just a smokescreen and the usual compromise will
be that the ISPs don't have to store the data except on request...


Enter a simple idea to solve the obvious privacy problem, at least in
parts. We do have the infrastructure in place to achieve end-to-end
encryption for the by far most-often-used web services, all we need is
to use it. I am, of course, talking about HTTPS and SMTPS.

Setting up apache so that it does HTTPS instead of HTTP, and all
requests to HTTP pages are redirected to a page pointing to the HTTPS
equivalent and explaining why is trivial.
Getting the various MTAs to use SMTPS isn't too difficult, either.

The problem with both is the need of SSL certificates. So I was
thinking of setting up a Joe Doe's CA. A simple webpage where you can
request a certificate. It would do two check:

a) check if IP you are using is identical to the IP you are requesting
for, i.e. you'll have to ssh into your webserver and use lynx from
there.

b) the certificate will be mailed to the admin-c of the domain you
requested it for (whois lookup).



This is not 100% secure, but then again how much checking does Verisign
really do on certificates? I believe this is good enough in that it
establishes a reasonable safety that you are talking to the right site,
at least much better than regular HTTP can offer.

The purpose of this is to get as many sites to switch to using HTTPS
and SMTPS as possible. Therefore, the required work must be kept
minimal. Once considerable parts of the internet traffic are encrypted,
they can pass as many data retention laws as they please.


Any comments? What did I miss? Where does this idea come apart? Does it
make sense at all?



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RE: 2 Challenge Gun Cases, Citing Bush Policy

2002-06-03 Thread Ed Stone

And in 1908 in Twining, the USSC found that the 5th amendment was similarly 
a limitation upon the national government, not the state governments, i.e., 
the states are not required by the fifth amendment to abstain from 
requiring a defendant to incriminate himself in testimony. But the first 8 
amendments have been progressively extended to the states by application of 
the 14th amendment.

For example, the fifth circuit, just eight months ago, finds the invididual 
model prevails not only over the national government, but also the states, 
and it declares that Cruikshank fails to establish any principle governing 
any of the issues.. regarding the 14th amendment's extension of the Bill 
of Rights to limit the power of the states.

13. In United States v. Cruikshank, 23 L.Ed. 588 (1875), the Court held 
that the Second Amendment is one of the amendments that has no other 
effect than to restrict the powers of the National Government.

Id. at 592. In Presser v. Illinois, 6 S.Ct. 580, 584 (1886), the Court, 
reaffirming Cruikshank and citing Barron v. Baltimore, 8 L.Ed.
672 (1833), held that the Second amendment is a limitation only upon the 
power of congress and the national government, and not upon that of the 
state. And, in Miller v. Texas, 14 S.Ct. 874 (1894), the Court held, with 
respect to the second and fourth amendments that the restrictions of 
these amendments operate only upon the federal power, and have no reference 
whatever to proceedings in state courts, citing Barron v. Baltimore and 
Cruikshank. As these holdings all came well before the Supreme Court began 
the process of incorporating certain provisions of the first eight 
amendments into the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, and as 
they ultimately rest on a rationale equally applicable to all those 
amendments, none of them establishes any principle governing any of the 
issues now before us.

http://laws.lp.findlaw.com/5th/9910331cr0.html




RE: FC: Hollywood wants to plug analog hole, regulate A-D

2002-06-03 Thread Trei, Peter

 Dave Emery[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 
 
 On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 08:59:43PM -0500, Neil Johnson wrote:
 
  Remember it only requires ONE high-quality non-watermarked analog to
 digital 
  copy to make it on the net and it's all over.
 
   And that is what this whole nonsensical scheme founders on.
 
   There are probably 300-500 million existing sound cards out
 there and at least millions of existing NTSC analog capture cards.  
 Many if not most can do acceptable fidelity conversion of analog audio
 and video to digital formats if programmed correctly. And there are even
 a few tens of thousands (or more) of new generation PCI cards that
 capture ATSC digital video (including HDTV) direct to disk in the clear.
 
   The MPAA cannot will these out of existance.  
 
The MPAA does not have to 'will them out of existance', or even make
them illegal.  They plan to change the broadcast standard so they are 
not supported.

At least, this is my interpretation:

The FCC has mandated a change to all-digital formats over the
next 5 years or so. After that, analog (NTSC) transmission will
be phased out. There is currently a lot of work being done within
the BPDG (Broadcast Protection Discussion Group) to provide
watermark checking, cryptographic and physical protection of 
digital video and audio data all the way to the display device, and 
forbid 'complying devices' from having accessible unencrypted 
outputs or busses. There are even proposals that if a 'complying 
device' is found to be hackable, that there should be a backdoor to
enable the manufacturer to modify or disable it remotely.

Until these standards are settled one way or the other, anyone
buying digital video equipment (HDTV or otherwise) runs a 
very substantial risk of finding themselves with a set of expensive
and otherwise useless doorstops.

Progress and innovation in electronics will occur only
at the whim (and in the interest) of the entertainment industry.

Check out the BPDG documents at
http://bpdg.blogs.eff.org/archives/cat_bpdg_drafts.html

Peter Trei
Disclaimer: The above is my opinion only, and should not
be misconstrued to represent the opinions of others.




Slashdot | Data Quality Act (Is this evil?)

2002-06-03 Thread Jim Choate

http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/03/0455210.shtml?tid=103
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Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug analog hole, regulate A-D

2002-06-03 Thread Joseph Ashwood


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 On Sunday 02 June 2002 08:24 pm, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
 
  The MPAA has not asked that all ADCs be forced to comply, only that
those
  in a position to be used for video/audio be controlled by a cop-chip.
While
  the initial concept for this is certainly to bloat the ADC to include
the
  watermark detection on chip, there are alternatives, and at least one
that
  is much simpler to create, as well as more benficial for most involved
  (although not for the MPAA). Since I'm writing this in text I cannot
supply
  a wonderful diagram, but I will attempt anyway. The idea looks somewhat
  like this:
 
  analog source --ADC--CopGate-digital
 
  Where the ADC is the same ADC that many of us have seen in undergrad
  electrical engineering, or any suitable replacement. The CopGate is the
new
  part, and will not be normally as much of a commodity as the ADC. The
  purpose of the CopGate is to search for watermarks, and if found,
disable
  the bus that the information is flowing across, this bus disabling is
again
  something that is commonly seen in undergrad EE courses, the complexity
is
  in the watermark detection itself.
 
  The simplest design for the copgate looks somewhat like this (again bad
  diagram):
 
  in|---buffergatesout
  CopChip-|
 
  Where the buffer gates are simply standard buffer gates.
 
  This overall design is beneficial for the manufacturer because the ADC
does
  not require redesign, and may already include the buffergates. In the
event
  that the buffer needs to be offchip the gate design is well understood
and
  commodity parts are already available that are suitable. For the
consumer
  there are two advantages to this design; 1) the device will be cheaper,
2)
  the CopChip can be disabled easily. In fact disabling the CopChip can be
  done by simply removing the chip itself, and tying the output bit to
either
  PWR or GND. As an added bonus for manufacturing this leaves only a very
  small deviation in the production lines for inside and outside the US.
This
  seems to be a reasonable way to design to fit the requirements, without
  allowing for software disablement (since it is purely hardware).
  Joe


 Bz! Wrong Answer !

 How do you prevent some  hacker/pirate (digital rights freedom fighter)
from
 disabling the CopGate (by either removing the CopChip, finding a way to
 bypass it, or figure out how to make it think it's in, Government Snoop
 mode ) ?

To quote myself the CopChip can be disabled easily, last paragraph
sentence begins with For the consumer . . .  as has been pointed out by
numerous people, there is no solution to this. With a minimal amount of
electrical engineering knowledge it is possible for individuals to easily
construct a new ADC anyway.


 Then the watermark can be removed.

Which can and should be done after conversion.

 Remember it only requires ONE high-quality non-watermarked analog to
digital
 copy to make it on the net and it's all over.

You seem to be of the mistaken opinion that I believe this to be a good
thing, when the design I presented was designed to minimize cost, of design,
manufacture, and removal. I am of the fundamental opinion that this is not a
legal problem, this is a problem of the MPAA and anyone else that requires a
law like this to remain profitable is advertising incorrectly. The Hollywood
studios have already found the basic solution, sell advertising space
_within_ the program. In fact some movies are almost completely subsidized
by the ad space within the movie. By moving to that model for primary
revenue it is easy to accept that a massive number of copies will be made
since that improves the value of the ad space in your next movie/episode. Of
course I'm not involved with any studio so they don't ask my opinion.
Joe




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Anthrax, barbed wired gags, stinkin' in Tennessee

2002-06-03 Thread Major Variola (ret)

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RE: European Data Retention and Encryption for Dummies

2002-06-03 Thread Lucky Green

Tom wrote:
 The problem with both is the need of SSL certificates. So I 
 was thinking of setting up a Joe Doe's CA. A simple webpage 
 where you can request a certificate. It would do two check:
 
 a) check if IP you are using is identical to the IP you are 
 requesting for, i.e. you'll have to ssh into your webserver 
 and use lynx from there.
 
 b) the certificate will be mailed to the admin-c of the 
 domain you requested it for (whois lookup).

I have been meaning to set up a similar CA for years now, but never
found the time. While you are at it, you might want to configure your CA
to offer S/MIME certs subject to an email ping. (Which is what exactly
what Thawte (a.k.a. VeriSign) is using to authenticate their free S/MIME
certs). Make sure that your CA will only sign sufficient size keys,
responding with a meaningful error message if a smaller key is
submitted.

There is a commercial SSL cert provider with roots in the browsers that
uses just authentication method b) that you propose.

However, for your CA, I would recommend doing away with b) since that
will limit even legitimate (whatever that would mean in this context)
users of your CA. Do a whois on cypherpunks.to to see why b) won't work
for everybody. If you don't care about serving users of some CCTLD's,
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RE: 2 Challenge Gun Cases, Citing Bush Policy

2002-06-03 Thread Lucky Green

Ed wrote:
 At 07:17 PM 6/2/02, Lucky Green wrote:
 In United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1876), the 
 Supreme Court 
 held that:
 
 ...
 
 The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; 
 neither is 
 it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its 
 existence. The 
 second amendment means no more than that it shall not be 
 infringed by 
 Congress, and has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the 
 national government.
 
  the 2nd Amendment solely
 constrains Congress from infringing upon the right to keep and bear 
 arms while leaving the Executive free to infringe upon this 
 right, or 
 deny its exercise entirely, at will.
 
 The Executive is part of the national government that 
 Cruikshank says is 
 restricted by the 2nd amendment, yes?

One might read the decision this way, if the Supreme Court had not
specifically written that The second amendment means no more than that
it shall not be infringed by Congress.

The national government is simply mentioned in the decision because the
question at bar was if the 2nd applied to the States via the 14th. Under
Cruikshank, the Supreme Court ruled that it does not. The Court held
that the 2nd only constrained the national government, not the States,
and of the national government, only Congress.

[...]
 ten years later in Presser v.
 Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886).
 
 The provision in the Second Amendment to the Constitution, 
 that 'the 
 right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be 
 infringed,' is a 
 limitation only on the power of Congress and the national 
 government, 
 and not of the States.
 
 Again, Presser says the 2nd amendment restricts the president 
 from such an 
 executive order, yes?

Under Presser, such an executive order by the President would likely be
considered unconstitutional.

FYI, the Supreme Court has since revisited, and overturned itself, in
just about every aspect of Cruikshank, *except* that the 14th does not
extend the 2nd to the States. Which was the issue that Steve Schear
inquired about and to which I responded with my post.

--Lucky




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Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug analog hole, regulate A-D

2002-06-03 Thread Mike Rosing

On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Dave Emery wrote:

   And telling the public that they face serious jail time if they
 don't turn in that Creative Soundblaster from the old PC in the attic
 closet isn't going to fly.   The sheeple may be sheep but even they
 aren't going to accept that kind of nonsense from Hollywood or any
 corrupt congress.

   I'd even venture to say that if this issue breaks out into
 the big time and the public really is faced with crippled devices
 that don't work and mandatory obselescence of existing expensive
 computer and entertainment systems with potential jail time for
 use of old equipment that the backlash will be so intense that
 raw public votes will control over Hollywood money.

I think that's what boils down to the bottom line.  Because there are
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to create a backlash.  There's already a backlash on protected CD's,
mostly by consumers who can't play them on older CD players.  It's just
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RE: 2 Challenge Gun Cases, Citing Bush Policy

2002-06-03 Thread Ed Stone

At 07:17 PM 6/2/02, Lucky Green wrote:
In United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1876), the Supreme Court
held that:

...

The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is
it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The
second amendment means no more than that it shall not be infringed by
Congress, and has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the
national government.

 the 2nd Amendment solely
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while leaving the Executive free to infringe upon this right, or deny
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The Executive is part of the national government that Cruikshank says is 
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Order that all private citizens are to turn in their guns tomorrow
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Then Cruikshank didn't mean to include the President as part of the 
national government that it found to be restricted by the 2nd amendment?

ten years later in Presser v.
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The provision in the Second Amendment to the Constitution, that 'the
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and not of the States.

Again, Presser says the 2nd amendment restricts the president from such an 
executive order, yes?




Re: BBC hijacks TiVo recorders

2002-06-03 Thread jet

At 0:24 -0700 2002/06/02, Marc wrote:
To be honest, the complaints about this are excessive. The problem
isn't that the TiVo recorded a promotional show, it's that it recorded a
show that has some semi-adult content in it and parental controls don't
restrict promotional recordings.

...and they did this at the request of the BBC who paid them to do it.

yeesh.  I don't think anyone came out of this looking good.


UltimateTV surprisingly is less intrusive, it doesn't have to use the
phone at all (except for standard DirecTV PPV calls) and uses the
downstream from the dish to verify subscriptions.

making it easier to bypass paying for service than it is on the TiVo, just activate 
the right tier and presto, UTV service.

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Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug analog hole, regulate A-D

2002-06-03 Thread Dave Emery

On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 08:59:43PM -0500, Neil Johnson wrote:

 Remember it only requires ONE high-quality non-watermarked analog to digital 
 copy to make it on the net and it's all over.

And that is what this whole nonsensical scheme founders on.

There are probably 300-500 million existing sound cards out
there and at least millions of existing NTSC analog capture cards.  
Many if not most can do acceptable fidelity conversion of analog audio
and video to digital formats if programmed correctly. And there are even
a few tens of thousands (or more) of new generation PCI cards that
capture ATSC digital video (including HDTV) direct to disk in the clear.

The MPAA cannot will these out of existance.  Sure some are
obselete ISA based designs, but there are certainly enough reasonably
current boards around so that it will be a long long while before 
the population of working systems capable of performing analog to
digital conversion of either watermarked audio or video reaches 
insignificance.   And without that point being reached, anything else
seems pretty ineffective as per your point above.

And telling the public that they face serious jail time if they
don't turn in that Creative Soundblaster from the old PC in the attic
closet isn't going to fly.   The sheeple may be sheep but even they
aren't going to accept that kind of nonsense from Hollywood or any
corrupt congress.

I'd even venture to say that if this issue breaks out into
the big time and the public really is faced with crippled devices
that don't work and mandatory obselescence of existing expensive
computer and entertainment systems with potential jail time for
use of old equipment that the backlash will be so intense that
raw public votes will control over Hollywood money.


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European Data Retention and Encryption for Dummies

2002-06-03 Thread Tom

Hi everyone, I've been on this list before, but didn't have time for it
for a while. Now I'm back because I need some input:


You probably heard that the EU is currently passing data retention
laws. One part of them would require that ISPs keep logs of customer
traffic. It isn't entirely clear what exactly they need to store, but
the discussion goes into URL storage (i.e. what file on which virtual
host) and even full data storage (i.e. copies of the IP packets).

Obviously, at least the later is bullshit. However, it is absolutely
possible that it's just a smokescreen and the usual compromise will
be that the ISPs don't have to store the data except on request...


Enter a simple idea to solve the obvious privacy problem, at least in
parts. We do have the infrastructure in place to achieve end-to-end
encryption for the by far most-often-used web services, all we need is
to use it. I am, of course, talking about HTTPS and SMTPS.

Setting up apache so that it does HTTPS instead of HTTP, and all
requests to HTTP pages are redirected to a page pointing to the HTTPS
equivalent and explaining why is trivial.
Getting the various MTAs to use SMTPS isn't too difficult, either.

The problem with both is the need of SSL certificates. So I was
thinking of setting up a Joe Doe's CA. A simple webpage where you can
request a certificate. It would do two check:

a) check if IP you are using is identical to the IP you are requesting
for, i.e. you'll have to ssh into your webserver and use lynx from
there.

b) the certificate will be mailed to the admin-c of the domain you
requested it for (whois lookup).



This is not 100% secure, but then again how much checking does Verisign
really do on certificates? I believe this is good enough in that it
establishes a reasonable safety that you are talking to the right site,
at least much better than regular HTTP can offer.

The purpose of this is to get as many sites to switch to using HTTPS
and SMTPS as possible. Therefore, the required work must be kept
minimal. Once considerable parts of the internet traffic are encrypted,
they can pass as many data retention laws as they please.


Any comments? What did I miss? Where does this idea come apart? Does it
make sense at all?



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RE: 2 Challenge Gun Cases, Citing Bush Policy

2002-06-03 Thread Ed Stone

And in 1908 in Twining, the USSC found that the 5th amendment was similarly 
a limitation upon the national government, not the state governments, i.e., 
the states are not required by the fifth amendment to abstain from 
requiring a defendant to incriminate himself in testimony. But the first 8 
amendments have been progressively extended to the states by application of 
the 14th amendment.

For example, the fifth circuit, just eight months ago, finds the invididual 
model prevails not only over the national government, but also the states, 
and it declares that Cruikshank fails to establish any principle governing 
any of the issues.. regarding the 14th amendment's extension of the Bill 
of Rights to limit the power of the states.

13. In United States v. Cruikshank, 23 L.Ed. 588 (1875), the Court held 
that the Second Amendment is one of the amendments that has no other 
effect than to restrict the powers of the National Government.

Id. at 592. In Presser v. Illinois, 6 S.Ct. 580, 584 (1886), the Court, 
reaffirming Cruikshank and citing Barron v. Baltimore, 8 L.Ed.
672 (1833), held that the Second amendment is a limitation only upon the 
power of congress and the national government, and not upon that of the 
state. And, in Miller v. Texas, 14 S.Ct. 874 (1894), the Court held, with 
respect to the second and fourth amendments that the restrictions of 
these amendments operate only upon the federal power, and have no reference 
whatever to proceedings in state courts, citing Barron v. Baltimore and 
Cruikshank. As these holdings all came well before the Supreme Court began 
the process of incorporating certain provisions of the first eight 
amendments into the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, and as 
they ultimately rest on a rationale equally applicable to all those 
amendments, none of them establishes any principle governing any of the 
issues now before us.

http://laws.lp.findlaw.com/5th/9910331cr0.html




Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug analog hole, regulate A-D

2002-06-03 Thread Graham Lally

Mike Rosing wrote:
 On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Dave Emery wrote:
 
  And telling the public that they face serious jail time if they
don't turn in that Creative Soundblaster from the old PC in the attic
closet isn't going to fly.   The sheeple may be sheep but even they
aren't going to accept that kind of nonsense from Hollywood or any
corrupt congress.

  I'd even venture to say that if this issue breaks out into
the big time and the public really is faced with crippled devices
that don't work and mandatory obselescence of existing expensive
computer and entertainment systems with potential jail time for
use of old equipment that the backlash will be so intense that
raw public votes will control over Hollywood money.
 
 
 I think that's what boils down to the bottom line.  Because there are
 so many units in place that can do the bypass, there will be enough time
 to create a backlash.  There's already a backlash on protected CD's,
 mostly by consumers who can't play them on older CD players.  It's just

And/or indeed, on newer players. In the UK at least 
(http://uk.eurorights.org/issues/cd/docs/celdion.shtml) the new 
generation of anti-theft CDs have been reported to be useless on modern 
DVD players/car stereos, by design. Some older players either lack the 
feature or are less sensitive, I assume, so can be ok. It's just a 
case of matching a technology with the right player...

So not content with limiting public demand for new hardware (a minor 
issue), the extra precautions actively encourage consumers to not buy 
legal content. Woo. Better to get illegal content that you can do what 
you want with.

With regards to the analog[ue]/digital stop-gapping, r o f l m a o. This 
would be just as effective as, ooh, copy-protecting CDs? Oh, humm... 
Chasing down peer-to-peer outfits? Uhh... Trying to ban videos? Oh, wait...

Firstly, in order to prevent widespread ripping of analog signals 
through disabling mass consumer device, there needs to /be/ mass 
consumer ripping. How many people do you know who actually go to the 
trouble of transferring their taped episodes/films onto their PC? It's 
not as simple as grabbing mp3s. As with other such distribution in its 
relevant infancy, the hard work's carried out by a much smaller number 
of people - millions of films may be downloaded every month, but there's 
generally only 2 or 3 versions of each film, from different sources, 
max. Believing that crippling the populace will fill this tiny leak 
is... well, amusing.

Secondly, how much work is going to go into protecting a fading 
technology? This is from both the MPAA's and the consumers' points of 
view. For the former, analog avoidance is only of any use if the content 
is not readily available in digital format already. Most of the analog 
content that I guess the MPAA want to stop conversion of is either 
people in cinemas with cameras, or people with tapes of episodes at 
home. The former is hard to stop through watermarking (I'm unsure of the 
technicalities, but I'd have thought preserving it between screen and 
camera would be tricky? Even without people geting uo and walking past 
the view...), and even then it's only one source of films. The latter 
is, I suspect, more the target of the MPAA's volley. If this doesn't 
move towards digital origins, i.e. through PVRs or cable-streams 
obtained via PC (which are subject to a different smother), then the 
abundance of existing technology, and probable (anonymous) circumvention 
  of new ones anyway renders all actions proposed useless. The question 
then is how much investment do you want to throw away?

Outside the US, I suspect that the circumvention may go the same way as 
DVD region control. Looking at players recently, it was quite hard 
(after checking around, as most people would) to actually _avoid_ 
region-locked DVD players. The only real factor that really keeps 
regions in place is their localised supply to meatspace shops, or the 
boundaries of international postage  packing.

Foolishness, foolishness, and yet more foolishness. Perhaps if we just 
ignore them, then they'll go away eventually :)

.g




Anthrax, barbed wired gags, stinkin' in Tennessee

2002-06-03 Thread Major Variola (ret)

Something stinks in Tenn, and its not the Gores this time:

Among his recent cases was the death of Harvard University biologist Don
Wiley, whose fall from a Memphis bridge in December fueled fears of
terrorist kidnappings. The medical examiner also helped identify the
body of Katherine Smith, 49, who was found burned beyond recognition in
February the day before a hearing on federal charges of helping five
Middle Eastern men obtain fake driver's licenses.

MEMPHIS, Tenn. - Medical examiner O.C. Smith, who has worked on some of
the city's most puzzling deaths, is at the center of another perplexing
case: He was attacked over the weekend, bound with barbed wire and left
with a bomb tied to his body.

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGABCF4U02D.html


The spooks are getting careless in Tenn.   First they do the
car-accident/injection thing with a
anthrax-saavy microbiologist, who floats up 300 mi away, then a
DMV-weenie-roast, now games
with the coroner?   What, was he going to tell?




Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug analog hole, regulate A-D

2002-06-03 Thread Joseph Ashwood


- Original Message -
From: Neil Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Joseph Ashwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug analog hole, regulate A-D


 On Sunday 02 June 2002 08:24 pm, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
 
  The MPAA has not asked that all ADCs be forced to comply, only that
those
  in a position to be used for video/audio be controlled by a cop-chip.
While
  the initial concept for this is certainly to bloat the ADC to include
the
  watermark detection on chip, there are alternatives, and at least one
that
  is much simpler to create, as well as more benficial for most involved
  (although not for the MPAA). Since I'm writing this in text I cannot
supply
  a wonderful diagram, but I will attempt anyway. The idea looks somewhat
  like this:
 
  analog source --ADC--CopGate-digital
 
  Where the ADC is the same ADC that many of us have seen in undergrad
  electrical engineering, or any suitable replacement. The CopGate is the
new
  part, and will not be normally as much of a commodity as the ADC. The
  purpose of the CopGate is to search for watermarks, and if found,
disable
  the bus that the information is flowing across, this bus disabling is
again
  something that is commonly seen in undergrad EE courses, the complexity
is
  in the watermark detection itself.
 
  The simplest design for the copgate looks somewhat like this (again bad
  diagram):
 
  in|---buffergatesout
  CopChip-|
 
  Where the buffer gates are simply standard buffer gates.
 
  This overall design is beneficial for the manufacturer because the ADC
does
  not require redesign, and may already include the buffergates. In the
event
  that the buffer needs to be offchip the gate design is well understood
and
  commodity parts are already available that are suitable. For the
consumer
  there are two advantages to this design; 1) the device will be cheaper,
2)
  the CopChip can be disabled easily. In fact disabling the CopChip can be
  done by simply removing the chip itself, and tying the output bit to
either
  PWR or GND. As an added bonus for manufacturing this leaves only a very
  small deviation in the production lines for inside and outside the US.
This
  seems to be a reasonable way to design to fit the requirements, without
  allowing for software disablement (since it is purely hardware).
  Joe


 Bz! Wrong Answer !

 How do you prevent some  hacker/pirate (digital rights freedom fighter)
from
 disabling the CopGate (by either removing the CopChip, finding a way to
 bypass it, or figure out how to make it think it's in, Government Snoop
 mode ) ?

To quote myself the CopChip can be disabled easily, last paragraph
sentence begins with For the consumer . . .  as has been pointed out by
numerous people, there is no solution to this. With a minimal amount of
electrical engineering knowledge it is possible for individuals to easily
construct a new ADC anyway.


 Then the watermark can be removed.

Which can and should be done after conversion.

 Remember it only requires ONE high-quality non-watermarked analog to
digital
 copy to make it on the net and it's all over.

You seem to be of the mistaken opinion that I believe this to be a good
thing, when the design I presented was designed to minimize cost, of design,
manufacture, and removal. I am of the fundamental opinion that this is not a
legal problem, this is a problem of the MPAA and anyone else that requires a
law like this to remain profitable is advertising incorrectly. The Hollywood
studios have already found the basic solution, sell advertising space
_within_ the program. In fact some movies are almost completely subsidized
by the ad space within the movie. By moving to that model for primary
revenue it is easy to accept that a massive number of copies will be made
since that improves the value of the ad space in your next movie/episode. Of
course I'm not involved with any studio so they don't ask my opinion.
Joe




RE: 2 Challenge Gun Cases, Citing Bush Policy

2002-06-03 Thread Lucky Green

Ed wrote:
 At 07:17 PM 6/2/02, Lucky Green wrote:
 In United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1876), the 
 Supreme Court 
 held that:
 
 ...
 
 The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; 
 neither is 
 it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its 
 existence. The 
 second amendment means no more than that it shall not be 
 infringed by 
 Congress, and has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the 
 national government.
 
  the 2nd Amendment solely
 constrains Congress from infringing upon the right to keep and bear 
 arms while leaving the Executive free to infringe upon this 
 right, or 
 deny its exercise entirely, at will.
 
 The Executive is part of the national government that 
 Cruikshank says is 
 restricted by the 2nd amendment, yes?

One might read the decision this way, if the Supreme Court had not
specifically written that The second amendment means no more than that
it shall not be infringed by Congress.

The national government is simply mentioned in the decision because the
question at bar was if the 2nd applied to the States via the 14th. Under
Cruikshank, the Supreme Court ruled that it does not. The Court held
that the 2nd only constrained the national government, not the States,
and of the national government, only Congress.

[...]
 ten years later in Presser v.
 Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886).
 
 The provision in the Second Amendment to the Constitution, 
 that 'the 
 right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be 
 infringed,' is a 
 limitation only on the power of Congress and the national 
 government, 
 and not of the States.
 
 Again, Presser says the 2nd amendment restricts the president 
 from such an 
 executive order, yes?

Under Presser, such an executive order by the President would likely be
considered unconstitutional.

FYI, the Supreme Court has since revisited, and overturned itself, in
just about every aspect of Cruikshank, *except* that the 14th does not
extend the 2nd to the States. Which was the issue that Steve Schear
inquired about and to which I responded with my post.

--Lucky