Re: WSJ Encrypted Laptop

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Choate


This sort of stuff will only go on for a few more years until the
distributed process and universal namespace sorts of approaches replace
the current paradigms. When that happens losing a laptop will mean nothing
because it won't have the data 'on it' in the conventional sense.


On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, John Young wrote:

> We've noted here the rise in "lost" and "stolen" laptops
> containing sensitive and classified information. First,
> one or two disappeared while a spook was drunk or
> was left behind in a taxi or taken from an unidentified 
> location.
> 
> Then amazing reports of more losses, the number rising 
> quickly, finally with surveys revealing hundreds of laptops 
> have been lost by spooks, cops, senior officals, nuclear 
> labs, state departments, and so on. Now and then encryption
> is mentioned.
> 
> We can see that the lost laptop, and its recent corollary,
> the discovered laptop, has become as useful for disinformation
> as what is being found in newly revealed secret archives
> like those reported today in the Wash Post, "Spies, Lies and
> the Distortion of History:"
> 
> 
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A55522-2002Feb23.html
> 
> To be sure, the flood of lost laptops both diminishes the
> credibility of what is on the laptops and increases it. One way
> to increase credibility is to claim files are encrypted.
> 
> What we also know is that encrypted files are now a leading
> indicator of credibility, along with the shadowy and enticing
> methods used to decrypt by unidentified parties, and to then
> carefully distribute the decrypted, authenticated thereby,
> if demonized, material.
> 
> Whether there is actually sensitive material in the demonized
> files is hard to determine so long as access to the original
> files, and a credible account of how they were comeby is
> not made available. As with the long history of astonishing
> revelations of secrets, lies and videotapes.
> 
> Moving to a related topic, is the use of the Internet for
> 
> leaking and/or psyopping disinformation, in particular
> the use of honeypots.
> 
> Cryptome is occasionally charged with being a honeypot,
> and it could be, wittingly so if we are succesful in putting
> up lurid material to bring in more luridities. A question 
> though is what information is being gathered by Cryptome 
> honeypot? The access logs, the pattern and content of 
> publication, the receipt of hot material, the distribution 
> of lies and deceptions? And if these are the profits of the 
> honeypot how is the data collection about them being 
> done?
> 
> We dream of being able to watch the honeypot harvestors
> at work, which accounts for admitting to running a honeypot,
> our lost laptop if you will. This hoary rabbit-running practice,
> you being the rabbit, as we see here with several practitioners,
> carries a Daniel Pearl-like risk. You may well lose your head
> to somebody who believes you are a wolf not merely a
> headgames-player.
> 




Re: WSJ Encrypted Laptop

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Choate


On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Aimee Farr wrote:

> I question how well we correlate strike, protest, subversive
> activity/agitation/propaganda, and sabotage/IW inferences these days --
> especially at home, due to domestic constraints. I would think that would
> keep a "war room" quite busy with inference scanning. With today's
> coordination, it's possible to see shadows of influence, instead of "just
> our imagination."

Considering the level of inside agents and provocateurs, not only for
this sort of stuff but tax evasion and monopolies; pretty damn good
I'd guess.

Or are you proposing that the FBI agent who provokes an illegal act is
also working for somebody besides the FBI? Not likely at the scale you
would suggest.

Or perhaps you mean that the people in the unions are being infiltraited
without the FBI knowing? I suspect that when they run the various
background checks they get a clue (assuming they did them and reviewed
them).


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Re: Snitch jamesd outs himself.

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Choate


As an operator of one of the nodes, versus somebody who is just a
subscriber, I'll be happy to state that while clearly a waste of anybody
with a clues time the submissions are not distruptive to the list. Nor or
they spam. They are within the charter of cryptography (and related
technologies), civil liberties, and economics. This includes technical
pieces, speculative pieces, opinion pieces, etc.

I've yet to see a threat. A lot of personal opinion and taunts, but no
threat. Got an example? Something like "Kill the President" is not a
threat.

'The' list is unfiltered, individual nodes may be. Your claim we can't
filter him out is specious; we don't want to filter anyone (do you
understand this point yet? Geesh) that's your(!!!) job (I know you don't
get this one).

To attack somebody through their ISP via false claims of abuse for no
reason other than they piss you off is the epitome of chicken shit
behaviour. It's also another excellent example of what hypocrites the
majority of CACL mouthpieces are.


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On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, matt taylor wrote:

> Do they WANT me to keep changing my address?Do I have to write to every 
> fuckwit I've beaten in debate when I change ISP's.Fucking stalkers,fuck off 
> and die.This just in...
> 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Youth in Asia CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Someone who appears to be posting from a nex.net.au address
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> keeps posting large volumes of spam,
> obcenity, death threats to random people, mail bombs, and so forth
> to our mailing list. He keeps changing his apparent address, so
> we have difficulty filtering him out.
> His postings were originally merely excessive and of doubtful
> relevance, but have become more and more hostile and harassing.
> 
> On 24 Feb 2002, at 5:29, matt taylor wrote:
>  > Youth In Asia Society: At our last monthly meeting, we discussed all of the
>  > reasons there are not to KILL THE PRESIDENT. We think it is our duty to
>  > inform people of our objection to those who believe it is necessary to KILL
>  > THE PRESIDENT. We also object to people who are constantly running around,
>  > shouting, incessantly, "KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE
>  > PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL
>  > THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT!
>  > KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT!" We think that
>  > this is rude. So we would ask you please not to KILL THE PRESIDENT! We
>  > don't want you to KILL THE PRESIDENT! We think it is inadvisable for you to
>  > KILL THE PRESIDENT! We certainly hope that you won't KILL THE PRESIDENT! We
>  > hope that no one you know decides to KILL THE PRESIDENT! We are dedicated
>  > in our efforts to convince people not to KILL THE PRESIDENT! We think that
>  > we will be successful in our efforts to convince people not to KILL THE
>  > PRESIDENT! We don't ask to be thanked for advising people not to KILL THE
>  > PRESIDENT! Nor do we expect to be thanked for advising people not to run
>  > around incessantly screaming "KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL
>  > THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT!
>  > KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE
>  > PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL
>  > THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT!
>  > KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE
>  > PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT! KILL THE PRESIDENT!" That's why we post
>  > anonymously. We're humble.
>  >
> I responded...
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Youth in Asia Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> This particular message is a copy from the archives of this list,not only 
> was it relevant to a recent thread RE list censorship being taken on by 
> self elected list cops but it belongs to a collection I'm gathering for an 
> article I'm planning.
> I'm an entertainment journalist.jamesd is a notorious liar having an entire 
> website devoted to that topic.http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9879/jamesd.html
> He admits to spending 6 years in Maoist and Trotskyist lying,violent 
> subversive parties,that, I can believe.
> (He is entertaining though) Please 
> don't contribute to the closure of a once vigorous debating forum.Thanks.
> 
> 
> 




(ADV) OTCBB: XCNT A Company On The Rise

2002-06-12 Thread industrynews20022002
Title: Untitled Document





  

 The Wall Street Stockwatch
  

  

 THE COMPANY: XENICENT INC. (OTCBB: XCNT)
  

  

 SYMBOL:XCNT

 
  
  

 52 WEEK HIGH: $2.50

 *INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGY COMPANY
  
  

 52 WEEK LOW: $0.15

 *LED DISPLAY SYSTEMS
  
  

 MARKET CAP: $7.5M

 *STRATEGIC MERGERS & ACQUISITIONS
  
  

 APPROX. FLOAT: $.4M

 
  
  

 RECENT PRICE: $0.50

 
  

  

 Company Background
  
  

 Dear Investors, Traders, and Speculators:


XENICENT INC. (OTCBB: XCNT) IS UNDER OUR RADAR THIS
WEEK. The Company, develops, invests in, and operates technology
and land development related companies within the US, China,
and Taiwan. XCNT's immediate strategy is to accelerate
the success of its technology division by acquisitions and development.


XCNT recently announced the signing of a definitive agreement
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"By joining forces with Giantek, we will accelerate our
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Said CEO Duane Bennett of Xenicent. As a result of this important
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$2 million in revenues for 2001, has approximately $3 million
in assets and currently employs a workforce of 30 employees.
  

  

 XCNT Growth Strategy
  
  

 IN THE NEAR FUTURE, management will announce
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 Conclusion
  
  

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Re: [Reformatted] Eugene Leitl want to ban thoughtcrime,

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Choate


On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, Declan McCullagh wrote:

> This is the last mattd post I'll see for a while, I expect, since I've
> updated my kill.rc file. But the prospect of a cypherpunks subscriber
> threatening to send 2 MB attachments to the list is not a pleasant one.

Why? They make 80G drives now for very cheap. Got a little pipe, get a
bigger one. The only persons who should shudder at 2M attachments are the
node operators. They have to deal with n*2M of traffic as compared to your
measly 2M.

Quite your whinning.

> (I suspect that majordomo will refuse to send anything above its default
> setting, which I'm not going to name since it'll encourage the mattd troll
> to hit that size and nothing above. But Still.)

40 bytes maximum. The current maximum that has been agreed too
informally (it's in the archives if you want to look) is 1M. SSZ is
currently set to bounce any emails over 1M (and it's detailed on the
homepage).


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Re: [Reformatted] EuroNazis want to ban thoughtcrime

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Choate


On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, Eugene Leitl wrote:

> Let's recapitulate. We have a downunder nutcase who's using this public
> resource for private dumping ground, while posting *a lot* (including
> profanity and casual death threats, iirc) and constantly changing his
> email address, thus avoiding filtering.
> 
> I don't propose the list policy to be changed, this particular forum
> should be unmoderated. However, complaining to Matt's ISP (whose terms
> he's clearly in violation with) and some grassroot pressure (if there are
> 100 people on his list willing to send back each of his messages 10x, he's
> dealing with a 1000x amplification factor on each and single of his
> messages) seems to be in order.
> 
> Does anyone see anything wrong with this plan?

Yes, a major problem.

Why are you to decide what is or is not relevant to the other list
members? Why is it that instead of managing your own mailbox, and in the
process promoting general peace (which you seem to be promoting by
homogenizing the discussion in this forum), instead you feel it is better
than your belief of what is or isn't relevant should be applied to all of
us? It is clear you are not willing to allow us to reciprocate and decide
what goes in your mailbox?

So much for CACL individualism...

The CACL Cypherpunk Contengent (CACL-CC ?) are a funny bunch. They promote
freedom of speech and action based around individual choice. Yet when put
in a position of conflict they use the same old 'force it all into one
mold' strategies that they (supposedly) rail against. Why is it this
contengent is the first to call for banning and filtering en masse?

How odd.


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Slashdot | Live via Satellite: NATO Aerial Surveillance Video (Encryption, Bandwidth)

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Choate

http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/13/028213.shtml?tid=172
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Of interest to many of you.

2002-06-12 Thread measl


>From an LEO friend:


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:08:51 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sgt. Kevin Miller of the Detroit Police department has a plan for preventing
violence. He wants school officials to ask kids what kinds of guns their
parents keep at home and how they are stored, and he thinks that some parents
should be reported to Child Protective Services based on these interrogations
of minors without their parents' knowledge. Read about it at The Detroit Free
Press site, http://www.freep.com/news/metro/nriley2_20020602.htm


-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...



-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:08:51 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FC: How to patent a Harvard scientist (his parents' idea) (fwd)

Sgt. Kevin Miller of the Detroit Police department has a plan for preventing
violence. He wants school officials to ask kids what kinds of guns their
parents keep at home and how they are stored, and he thinks that some parents
should be reported to Child Protective Services based on these interrogations
of minors without their parents' knowledge. Read about it at The Detroit Free
Press site, http://www.freep.com/news/metro/nriley2_20020602.htm




Re: Pentagon OSI.

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Choate


On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Aimee Farr wrote:

> Great bloodshedding that "never happened" -- due to diplomacy and deception.
> War is the means, not the ends.

No, it's diplomacy by other means. War is only one means, not 'the' means
as this would indicate.

> Americans seem to confuse the two -- a Code Duello Culture.

Well their political leaders do anyway. Not sure if it's consistent to
equate the American people with their leaders.

> The objective is to get the enemy to do our will.

There is usually no single objective. Further, if your goal is anything
other than peaceful co-existance any distinction between you and the enemy
is specious.

> "The enemy" is just an antagonistic interest, not "a country," as we have
>  been conditioned to think.

Specious distinction. The agent pursuing the 'antagonistic interest' is a
country in most cases (at least at the scale you are speaking of).

> That embodies a range of choices, but perception
> management, even if it involves deception, should be preferred to battle.

Yeah, it's called politics.

Stating the obvious again.


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Re: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-12 Thread Peter Gutmann

Greg Newby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Some electronic journals, some conferences and some print journals now let
>authors retain copyright or, if they keep copyright, allow authors to do what
>they please with their work.

Usenix is really good with this.  You agree not to re-publish anything for a
period of one year (to cover their print distribution), although you're allowed
to put a copy on your home page.  After that, you're free to do what you like.
They also make all their stuff available online at no charge after a year. This
is why I preferentially submit papers to Usenix rather than ACM or IEEE, I want
to get the information out there where it does some good, not have it locked up
in a copyright prison for all eternity.  I can't imagine that the ACM is going
to make much (if anything) from the reprint rights of a ten-year-old article on
distributed search algorithms, but by locking it up, very few people ever have
access to it.

(Hmm, I wonder if it can be argued that making stuff intended for public
 distribution inaccessible violates the creator's moral rights?  I know that
 doesn't apply in the US, but in other countries it might work.  Moral rights
 can't be assigned, so no publisher can take that away from you.  Any lawyers
 out there?).

>It's far more typical, though, for the journal to get all rights, except
>perhaps classroom use (aka "fair use") by the author.

That's more traditional for publishers like IEEE and ACM.  OTOH they seem to
turn a blind eye to people making papers available on their home pages, even if
the publishing agreement says you shouldn't do that.  I suspect the backlash
would be too strong if they tried to clamp down on this, although I wish it'd
be formalised in some way rather than leaving it as a grey area.

Peter.




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From the recent past of Homeland defense

2002-06-12 Thread Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_2033000/2033324.stm


A new book reveals the 22-year effort by FBI director J Edgar Hoover to get Albert 
Einstein arrested as a political subversive or even a Soviet spy.

Uncovered FBI files are revealed in a book by Fred Jerome who says it was a clash of 
cultures - Einstein's challenge and change with Hoover's order and obedience.

>From the time Einstein arrived in the US in 1933 to the time of his death, in 1955, 
>the FBI files reveal that his phone was tapped, his mail was opened and even his 
>trash searched. 


(if only they had Osama)




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kuro5hin.org || Abu Sayyaf - Where did they come from? (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Choate


http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/6/11/141643/563


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Study offers a rare view of how species interactions evolve (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Choate


http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2002-06/uoc--soa061002.php


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The Register - Credit card hackers stung with bogus IIS exploit (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Choate


http://theregister.co.uk/content/55/25692.html


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Slashdot | What Is Public Domain? (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Choate


http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/02/06/12/1648222.shtml?tid=156


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Scientific American: Light's Information-Carrying Capacity Doubles (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Choate


http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000E7D49-4ADD-1D06-8E49809EC588EEDF&catID=1


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Scientific American: URLs in Urdu? (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Choate


http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=0005D6A3-3B91-1CDC-B4A8809EC588EEDF&catID=2


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Slashdot | Will Cable Unplug the File Swappers? (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Choate


http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/12/1331252.shtml?tid=95


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Sniffer rats stand up to smuggling (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Choate


http://www.nature.com/nsu/020603/020603-12.html


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FT.com Home US - US demands jeopardise Milosevic's war trial (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Choate


http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1023676035253&p=1012571727088


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CNN.com - Lawyer: 'Dirty bomb' suspect's rights violated - June 12, 2002 (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Jim Choate


http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/06/12/dirty.bomb.suspect/index.html


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Re: What's with all the spam?...

2002-06-12 Thread Eric Murray

On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 10:15:37AM -0700, Tim May wrote:
> 
> I like the LNE node, but a lot of junk still seems to get through. If 
> Eric is only passing through the posts of subscribers, does this mean 
> this person "houshen2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" is a list subscriber?

[chinese spam deleted]

No, that was an error on my part, typing over a high
latency connection.

Eric




Re: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-12 Thread Tim May

On Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 10:04  AM, Anonymous wrote:

> T.C. May writes:
>
>> Anyone here who has not already done so should immediately type
>> "xxx.lanl.gov" into their browser. (No, the "xxx" is not a typo, nor is
>> it a porn site.)
>>
>> This is where physics papers are getting published. The print journals
>> are surviving, barely, but I think the handwriting is already on the
>> wall. As libraries balk at paying $6000 per year for "Journal of
>> Advanced Aptical Foddering" and as the referee system goes online as
>> well (*), the print journals will financially fail. Maybe no one will
>> notice.
>>
>> As John Baez has pointed out, most of the grad students he deals with
>> never visit the campus library. All papers of interest in cosmology,
>> quantum physics, solid state, etc. are being published on the arXhive
>> sites. In the last few months, I've been using this system extensively,
>> and have downloaded about 2500 pages of PDF files. I know how many 
>> pages
>> because I've printed out most of the papers. Five reams of paper
>> later
>
> Brilliant suggestion as usual.  This completely un-edited, un-reviewed
> archive site accepts submissions from anyone in the world.

No, it does not.

>
> As usual, readers are cautioned to take Tim May's "brilliant insights"
> with a very generous grain of salt.
>

As usual, "Anonymous" is careless in his claims.

>
--Tim May
"Ben Franklin warned us that those who would trade liberty for a little 
bit of temporary security deserve neither. This is the path we are now 
racing down, with American flags fluttering."-- Tim May, on events 
following 9/11/2001




Re: What's with all the spam?...

2002-06-12 Thread Tim May

On Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 09:41  AM, Eric Murray wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 07:58:49AM +0200, Tom wrote:
>>
>> speaking of unfiltered - I subscribed to ssz exactly because I don't
>> want to have anyone moderating for me. however, the spam volume is
>> deafening.
>
> The LNE node isn't moderated.
> All posts from list subscribers, to any CDR, plus
> any post from a non-subscriber that isn't spam, get sent to
> LNE subscribers.


I like the LNE node, but a lot of junk still seems to get through. If 
Eric is only passing through the posts of subscribers, does this mean 
this person "houshen2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" is a list subscriber?

--Tim

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Re: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-12 Thread Anonymous

T.C. May writes:

> Anyone here who has not already done so should immediately type 
> "xxx.lanl.gov" into their browser. (No, the "xxx" is not a typo, nor is 
> it a porn site.)
>
> This is where physics papers are getting published. The print journals 
> are surviving, barely, but I think the handwriting is already on the 
> wall. As libraries balk at paying $6000 per year for "Journal of 
> Advanced Aptical Foddering" and as the referee system goes online as 
> well (*), the print journals will financially fail. Maybe no one will 
> notice.
>
> As John Baez has pointed out, most of the grad students he deals with 
> never visit the campus library. All papers of interest in cosmology, 
> quantum physics, solid state, etc. are being published on the arXhive 
> sites. In the last few months, I've been using this system extensively, 
> and have downloaded about 2500 pages of PDF files. I know how many pages 
> because I've printed out most of the papers. Five reams of paper 
> later

Brilliant suggestion as usual.  This completely un-edited, un-reviewed
archive site accepts submissions from anyone in the world.  One might
as well learn physics from Jim Choate.  I wonder if Tim May's extensive
archive of printed papers includes such gems as these from xxx.lanl.gov:

http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/physics/0205055
  This one explains that general relativity is all wrong to attribute
  gravity to curved spacetime, and cosmological red-shift to expansion.
  It shows how to get these effects from a flat spacetime geometry.

http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/quant-ph/0204008
  "We found a fundamental principle, the law of statistical balance
  in nature, that specifies quantum statistical theory among all other
  statistical theories of measurements. This principle plays in quantum
  theory the role that is similar to the role of Einstein's relativity
  principle."

http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/hep-th/0201115
  This astonishing paper tells what happens before the Big Bang.  During
  the pre-universe the vacuum evolves through four stages before producing
  the universe we see.  "The periodic table of elementary particles is
  constructed to account for all elementary particles and their masses
  in a good agreement with the observed values."  This is the holy grail
  of modern physics - a theory that explains the subatomic particle zoo!
  Definitely a must-have for Tim May's collection.

Clearly every one of these results would be shattering to the modern
physics paradigm, if true.  Tim May's advice puts readers at risk of
accepting the most absurd theories without any way of evaluating their
accuracy.

There is a reason why the peer review process and the academic journals
are still needed.  Online preprint archives are useless for the layman.
Only experts can use these archives with safety; they are able to sift
the wheat from the chaff.

As usual, readers are cautioned to take Tim May's "brilliant insights"
with a very generous grain of salt.




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Re: What's with all the spam?...

2002-06-12 Thread Eric Murray

On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 07:58:49AM +0200, Tom wrote:
> 
> speaking of unfiltered - I subscribed to ssz exactly because I don't
> want to have anyone moderating for me. however, the spam volume is
> deafening.

The LNE node isn't moderated.
All posts from list subscribers, to any CDR, plus
any post from a non-subscriber that isn't spam, get sent to
LNE subscribers.

> is there a fee available that is filtered, but only for spam?

LNE qualifies.

Eric




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Re: CDR: What's with all the spam?...

2002-06-12 Thread Adam Back

On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 07:58:49AM +0200, Tom wrote:
> speaking of unfiltered - I subscribed to ssz exactly because I don't
> want to have anyone moderating for me. however, the spam volume is
> deafening.
> 
> is there a fee available that is filtered, but only for spam?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

is quite close to that.

The moderation policy is:

- obvious spam gets dropped.
- one-line pointers to news articles will tend to get dropped.
- news articles posted in full without comment will tend to get dropped.
- content will tend to get passed, even if it's off-the-wall
  (eg. Xenix Chainsaw Massacre). 
- submissions from high signal posters will tend to get passed.
- the list is read-only. submissions should go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  or another CDR node.
- [EMAIL PROTECTED] will remain unfiltered and unmoderated.

To subscribe, send the text "subscribe cypherpunks-moderated" to
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it's archived here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/cypherpunks-moderated@minder.net/

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Re:JOINT VENTURE PROPOSAL

2002-06-12 Thread Barrister USTAS YUNUS (esq.)

Ustas Yunus Usman & Associates. 
369 Law House, Victoria Island Lagos.
Tel: 234-803-305-6635,Fax: 873-762-534-331.
provides consumer and business clients with service, information, and Internet links 
on bankruptcy. Servicing estate planning, probate, litigation, real estate, tax and 
employment law clients etc.
 
 Our ref; UYU/ACI/JV/01Your ref;Date; 
12th June 2002

JOINT VENTURE PROPOSAL

Attn: Dir/Ceo,
I am Barrister USTAS Y.USMAN (Esq.). We help clients seeking for the right foreign 
Investor to invest some amount of money to their company or joint estate investment. 
We are committed to providing clients with legal representation of highest quality. 
Unique knowledge of our client's business forms, the foundation for specialized legal 
services we are able to offer. We have been consulted and our services retained by our 
valued client who is interested in investing in your company.
Our client is interested in investing the sum of US$16,500,000.00 in your 
establishment. The interest arose from information obtained about you/your firm's 
efficiency. Details shall be given to you as soon as we confirm your interest. We 
trust that as a trust worthy, efficient and serious minded partner, you will receive 
the funds and filter it into a profitable business venture as our client was highly 
placed in the last military administration in The Federal Republic of Nigeria and will 
therefore desire confidentiality in the transaction. If interested, please do contact 
the undersigned. 
Yours sincerely, 


Barrister USTAS YUNUS (esq.)
Principal Partner. 
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Verba Volant 12-JUN-2002

2002-06-12 Thread Verba Volant

Verba Volant 12-JUN-2002,
Every day a new quotation translated into many languages. 

_ 
Quotation of the day:
Author -
Sapir
Edward
English - language is an anonymous, collective and unconscious art; the result of the creativity of thousands of generations
Albanian - gjuha është një art anonim, kolektiv dhe i pandërgjegjshëm, fryt i krijimtarisë së mijëra brezash 
Asturian - el llinguaxe ye un arte anónimo, colectivo ya inconsciente, el resultáu de la creatividá de millares de xeneraciones 
Basque - mintzaira arte anonimo, kolektibo eta inkontzientea da; milaka belaunaldiren sormenak izan duen emaitza 
Bolognese - la längua l'é un'èrt ôrba, ed tótt, e che la Zänt i n s in rànnden bSa cånt, al riSultèt dla creativitè ed mièra ed generaZiån 
Brazilian Portuguese - a linguagem é uma arte anônima, coletiva e inconsciente, o resultado da criatividade de milhares de pessoas 
Bresciano - la lèngua l'è 'n art che la gha mia nom, che l'è fada de toch e sensa sail, l' fada de 'l invensiuù de mier e mier de generasiù 
Breton - ar yezh zo un arz diemskiant, stroll ha dianv; bet krouet gant miliadaou a rummadou 
Calabrese - u linguaggiu è 'n'arti 'nonima,cullettiva e 'nconscia,u risultatudi la ginialità di migliaia di ginirazziuni 
Catalan - la llengua és un art anònim, col·lectiu i inconscient; el resultat de la creativitat de milers de generacions 
Danish - sproget er en anonym, kollektiv og ubevidst kunst; resultatet af tusinde af generationers skaberkraft 
Dutch - taal is een anonieme, collectieve en onbewuste kunst; het resultaat van de creativiteit van duizenden generaties 
Esperanto - lingvo estas sennoma, kolektiva kaj senkonscia arto; rezulto de la kreemeco de miloj da generacioj 
Estonian - keel on anonüümne, kollektiivne ja teadvustamata kunst; tuhandete põlvkondade loovuse tulemus 
Ferrarese - al linguaz l'è n'arte anonima, culetiva e inconsia, al risultà dla creatività ad mill'e pasa generazzion 
Finnish - kieli on anonyymiä, kollektiivista, tiedostamatonta taidetta, se on tuhansien sukupolvien luovuuden tulos 
Flemish - taal is een anonieme, collectieve en onbewuste kunst; het resultaat van de creativiteit van duizenden generaties 
French - la langue est un art anonyme, collectif inconscient; le résultat de la créativité de milliers de générations 
Galician - a linguaxe é unha arte anónima, colectiva e inconsciente, resultado da criatividade de milleiros de xeracións 
German - Sprache ist eine anonyme, kollektive, und unbewusste Kunst, das Ergebnis der Kreativität tausendender Generationen 
Hungarian - a nyelv anonim, kollektív és nem tudatos muvészet, több ezer generáció kreativitásának az eredménye 
Italian - il linguaggio è un'arte anonima, collettiva e inconscia, il risultato della creatività di migliaia di generazioni 
Judeo Spanish - el linguaje es un arte anonimo, kolektivo i inkonsiente; el rezultado de le kretividad de miles de djeneransios 
Latin - sermo est ars sine auctore, publica insciaque, exitus fecunditatis seculorum innumerabilium 
Leonese - la llingua ye un arte anónimu, coleutivu ya inconsciente, el resultáu de la creatividá de miles de xeneraciones 
Limburgian - taol ès anonieme, kollêktieve ên onbewuste kins, 't rèzzeltaot van de kreatievighèts van doezende ên doezende gènneraoses 
Lombardo - el lenguagg l'è on'art anònema, collettiva e incònscia, el resultaa della creativitaa de miar de òmmen 
Mantuan - la parlada l’è n’art sensa nom, da tuti e sensa saveral, al risultà da quel chi à fat mila generasion 
Mudnés - al linguagg l'è un'èrt anonima, fàta da tott e sèinza savèrel, al risultèt d'la fantasìa ed mijera ed generaziòun 
Norwegian - språket er en anonym, kollektiv og ubevisst kunst; resultatet fra tusener av generasjoners skaperkraft 
Occitan - lo lengatge es una art sença nom, sença consciéncia e de tuchi, lo resultat de la creativitat de mila e mila generacions 
Papiamentu - idioma ta un arte anónimo, kolektivo i inkonsiente; e resultado di e kreatividat di miles di generashon 
Parmigiano - la lengua l'é n' ärta anónima, colectiva e inconscienta, col che resulta 'd la creativité ad míla 'd generasión 
Piemontese - ël lengagi a l'é n'art anònima, coletiva, ancossienta; ël risultà dla creatività ëd mijé ëd generassion 
Portuguese - a língua é uma arte anónima, colectiva e inconsciente, o resultado da criatividade de milhares de gerações 
Reggiano - la parlèda l'è 'n'erta sèinsa nòm, ch'l'è ed tòtt, che an.s rènd mia còunt ed coll ch'l'ee, l'è al risultèe d'la creativitèe ed mieer ed generasiòun 
Romagnolo - e' linguaz l'è un erta scamped de nom, fiola ad tott e ca ven proima de zervel; quel ca vin fura d'è travaj de na masa ad ginerazioun 
Roman - er linguaggio è 'n'arte anonima, collettiva e 'nconscia, e' risurtato daa creatività de mijaia de generazzioni 
Sardinian - su limbazu est un'arte anònima, colletiva e incussente, su resurtadu de sa creatividade de mizas de zeneratziones 
Spanish - el lenguaje es un arte anónimo, colectivo e inconsciente, el resultad

Thank you for your time and interest HOSQVVZ

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Re: The Register - People chipping company hit by class actions, FDA probe (Oops...) (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread jayh

An interesting point and a serious threat to privacy. Alas I would like to see a more 
reliable source forthcoming than Worldnetdaily.  

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On 11 Jun 2002 at 17:44, Jim Choate wrote:

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>   When I die, I would like to be born again as me.
> 
> Hugh Hefner
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com
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