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Shrubs political and psychological defeat.
Well barr's barred...there may be a god...Washington Retreating on Iraq Aug 19 The Bush administration has begun to back down from plans for a near-term attack on Iraq. The controversial plan was shredding the coalition against al Qaeda, which Washington needs in battling the group. But the Bush administration's retreat from Iraq, although necessary, forces it to manage a political and psychological defeat. RR,don't go there,girlfriend.http://www.stratfor.com/ crypto revisionism Since 1974 much has been written about the cryptographic success achieved at Bletchley Park, and dozens of participants and historians have given their version of what was accomplished. Bennett includes separate short entries for GCCS, GCHQ, Enigma, Bletchley Park and ULTRA, longer ones for Alan Turing, Sir Edward Travis, Alistair [sic] Denniston, and a four page summary under 'United Kingdom'. Evidently the author rightly considers Britain's cryptographic effort to be of some significance, yet his very confused account seriously misdefines some common terms, and consistently refers to the Enigma machine in capitals, as though Enigma is itself a codename. Much the same can be said for Bennett's treatment of VENONA, which is seriously flawed. Suffice to say that his assertion that the Army Security Agency began work on the Soviet intercepts in 1943 is somewhat wide of the mark http://www.cicentre.com/BK/BOOKS_West_Bennett.html
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Re: Bankrupt Digicash Made $481K in 1999
At 12:12 PM 8/20/2002 -0700, Steve Schear wrote: At 12:33 PM 8/20/2002 -0700, you wrote: Digicash 1999 IRS forms: http://cryptome.org/digicash-481k.htm Perhaps its my ignorance, but doesn't this form merely mean DC paid the Chaum Family Trust $481K, not that the company made $481K? (since the PKI market's been in the toilet, I've been learning about taxation) Even that assumes too much - there wasn't necessarily a transfer of money. If, for example (and this is purely hypothetical), Chaum had agreed to work for DC in exchange for 1,000,000 shares of stock, and $481K was the fair market value of those shares, then it would be proper to issue a 1099-MISC with that amount in Box 3 and Chaum would be taxed on that $481K as income, even though he received it as stock instead of cash. (If the circumstances were different, the income might be expected to show up in Box 7, nonemployee compensation; but here it's in Box 3, which should transfer directly either to Line 21 on the 1040 for miscellaneous income, or onto a Schedule C, assuming it's an individual taxpayer, which isn't the case here.) This sort of 1099 is also what you'd expect to see going to the recipient of cash as damages following or related to a lawsuit. If Digicash loaned money to Chaum and later forgave the debt (not unusual, where a founder or other important employee wants to exercise stock options early but doesn't have cash for the exercise), Chaum would be obligated to report the forgiven debt as income but a 1099 would not be required; that doesn't stop people from sending them anyway. -- Greg Broiles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PGP 0x26E4488c or 0x94245961
RE: Seth on TCPA at Defcon/Usenix
At 12:58 AM 08/11/2002 -0700, Lucky Green wrote: BTW, does anybody here know if there is still an email time stamping server in operation? The references that I found to such servers appear to be dead. The canonical timestamping system was Haber Stornetta's work at Bellcore, commercialized at Surety.com. The site is current, has some Digital Notary Service and Secure Email things on it, and something much more amazing - it looks like they received $7M in financing in June :-) There's a nice collection of pointers to timestamping systems at http://saturn.tcs.hut.fi/~helger/crypto/link/timestamping/ though I don't know how current the references are - the page was last updated 14.8.2002. The free PGP-based system http://www.itconsult.co.uk/stamper.htm has a news item from 04-Jun-02, which comments that, although they haven't posted any news items in five years, they've been in continuous operation
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Re: alternate dos pgp client?
I put together a list of openpgp related software at: http://www.cypherspace.org/openpgp/ this includes library only code, and add on software. Not sure about your questions about key versions, but I forwarded it to Ulf Moeller and Len Sassaman (current maintainer of mix3). From what I've seen mix3 (pgptest app) is the closest to providing a command line. There was also Tom Zerucha's reference openPGP code, which is command line but it's alpha level code I think and no longer maintained. Adam On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 09:28:47PM -0500, Anonymous wrote: The latest release of Mixmaster claims to be an OpenPGP enhancement release. I looked at the source more closely, and it seems to contain an entire pgp implementation. I had previously thought it made external calls to either pgp or gnupg. This got me thinking - has anyone tried hacking mixmaster to be a pgp client? I have compiled it under DOS before, so I know that is possible. Does anyone know if mixmaster can use 'non-legacy' RSA keys? Is there any pgp functionality that it lacks? I am looking for a pgp implementation that will run on DOS, but will also be compatible with modern key types.
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Re: Chaum's unpatented ecash scheme
Nomen Nescio wrote: David Chaum gave a talk at the Crypto 2002 conference recently in which he briefly presented a number of interesting ideas, including an approach to digital cash which he himself said would avoid the ecash patents. The diagram he showed was as follows: Optimistic Authenticator z = x^s Payer f(m)^a z^b Bank - [f(m)^a z^b]^s - m, f(m)^s - It's hard to figure out what this means, but it bears resemblance to a scheme discussed on the Coderpunks list in 1999, a variant on a blinding method developed by David Wagner. See http://www.mail-archive.com/coderpunks@toad.com/msg02323.html for a description, with a sketch of a proof of blindness at http://www.mail-archive.com/coderpunks@toad.com/msg02387.html and http://www.mail-archive.com/coderpunks@toad.com/msg02388.html. In Chaum's diagram it is not clear which parts of the key are private and which public, although z is presumably public. Since the bank's action is apparently to raise to the s power, s must be secret. That suggests that x is public. However Chaum's system seems to require dividing by (z^b)^s in order to unblind the value, and if s is secret, that doesn't seem possible. In Wagner's scheme everything was like this except that the bank's key would be expressed as x = z^s, again with x and z public and s secret. f(m) would be a one-way function, which gets doubly-blinded by being raised to the a power and multiplied by z^b, where a and b are randomly chosen blinding factors. The bank raises this to its secret power s, and the user unblinds to form f(m)^s. To later deposit the coin he does as in the third step, sending m and f(m)^s to the bank. For the unblinding, the user can divide by (z^b)^s, which equals z^(b*s), which equals (z^s)^b, which equals x^b. Since x is public and the user chose b, he can unblind the value. Maybe the transcription above of the Chaum scheme had a typo and it was actually similar to the Wagner method. Sounds like it. Chaum commented that the payer does not receive a signature in this system, and that he doesn't need one because he is protected against misbehavior by the bank. This is apparently where the scheme gets its name. Note that the scheme as described (and corrected) is vulnerable to marking by the bank, and so is not anonymous. This is discussed and fixed in my paper on Lucre (http://anoncvs.aldigital.co.uk/lucre/theory2.pdf). Cheers, Ben. -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.thebunker.net/ Available for contract work. There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit. - Robert Woodruff
Discouraging credential sharing with Mojo
Some credential issuing schemes, such as those from Brands as well as from Camenisch Lysyanskaya, try to avoid credential sharing by embedding into the credential some secret which is important and valuable to the credential holder. Then if the credential is shared, the recipient learns the important secret, to the detriment of the person sharing the credential. So he won't do it. The problem is that there don't seem to be any secrets that will work well in discouraging sharing. The most obvious is a credit card number, but this has a number of problems: some people don't have credit cards; people could cancel their credit cards after receiving the credentia; and underground hackers have access to thousands of stolen credit card numbers that they don't mind sharing. Clearly we need a new approach. Here is a suggestion for a simple solution which will give everyone an important secret that they will avoid sharing. At birth each person will be issued a secret key. This will be called his Mojo. He will also get the associated public key which will assist in protocols which involve commiting to his Mojo. The public key can be revealed but the Mojo should be kept secret at all costs. Then in a credential issuing protocol, the user embeds his Mojo into his credential in a provable way. It is important that the protocol not reveal the Mojo to the issuer, but rather that some kind of zero knowledge proof be used so that the issuer is confident that sharing the credential will reveal the Mojo. Now all that is needed is a simple change to the law so that knowing someone's Mojo makes him your slave. That is, if you know someone's Mojo you own him. You get access to all his money and all his assets. You can force him to work for you and take all he earns. You can mistreat and even kill him. If he tries to escape, the Runaway Mojo Slave act will commit the government to tracking him down and returning him to you. With this small change to the law, everyone will be gifted with an important secret which they can use to bind and commit themselves in a variety of protocols. By embedding their Mojo into their secret credentials, they can assure the credential issuer that the credential won't be shared. Mojo can also serve as an is a person credential and allow for secure electronic voting and other protocols where each person should only participate once. Please join me in supporting this important reform. Just say, I want my Mojo!
Re: Signing as one member of a set of keys
On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, Anonymous wrote: *** COULD SOMEONE PLEASE FOLLOW THE STEPS ABOVE AND PUT THE ringsig.c, ringsign, ringver, AND sigring.pgp FILES ON A WEB PAGE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN DOWNLOAD THEM WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE STEPS? *** The files are available at: http://www.abditum.com/~rabbi/ringsig/ Also, if you'd like to send me a more detailed blurb for the webpage, I'd be happy to put it up. Otherwise, this will have to do. 9. Please report whether you were able to succeed, and if not, which step failed for you. I just ran into a bunch of errors when trying to compile with OpenSSL 0.9.7beta3. I'm debugging now... --Len.
Re: IETF WG on SMTP feeler...
There has been an awful lot of discussion on this here in CP land, so maybe some responses too? A good place to put forward suggestions to make hard calculations a requirement of delivery or maybe some digicash to pay for it? SMTP will never change, assuming it is a pipe dream. There is no record of basic internet protocol ever being changed away from compatibility (and guess what, spammers won't upgrade.) Looks like desperate dotcommies. If you want to be seen by the world, the world will send you shit. No way around it. = end (of original message) Y-a*h*o-o (yes, they scan for this) spam follows: HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com
The state wants your 'buddy' list
Consider the privacy implications of requiring mothers to list all mates with the State.. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-adopt21aug21005115.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dnation%2Dmanual Florida Wants All the Details From Mothers in Adoption Notices Rule: Law stirs furor as women must publicly list sexual partners before giving up their children. By JOHN-THOR DAHLBURG, TIMES STAFF WRITER MIAMI -- Can a woman be compelled by law to publish details of her sex life in the newspaper, including the names of the men she has been intimate with? In Florida she can, if she is offering her child for adoption. The law, intended to give biological fathers a greater say in the adoption process, has stirred controversy nationwide. Opponents call it a latter-day scarlet letter meant to shame promiscuous women. Even the state senator who championed the measure admits that it has had unintended results. The law is anti-adoption, anti-family, anti-child, anti-woman, contended Nashville attorney Bob Tuke, president of the American Academy of Adoption Attorneys. There is no other law like it in America. Jeffery M. Leving, a Chicago attorney and advocate for fathers' rights, countered: I like the law because it recognizes that fathers are parents too. It recognizes that they should have notice before a child is given away forever. Under the law, if a Florida mother seeks to give up her child for adoption and a search has failed to turn up the father, she is required to publish a legal notice giving her full name, height, weight and coloring--plus the names or descriptions of every possible father and the dates and places of their sexual encounters. The ads are supposed to run once a week for four weeks and must appear in newspapers in any city or county where the child might have been conceived. This is such an intrusion of a woman's privacy and of the privacy of the men who were involved with her, said Charlotte H. Danciu, a Boca Raton, Fla., attorney who specializes in adoptions and has gone to court to challenge the law. And the men named in the newspaper may not even be the father. The goal of the law, which was passed overwhelmingly by the Florida Legislature last year, is to locate as many biological fathers as possible and prevent the bitter, drawn-out battles that can break up adoptive families after children have been placed. But when told of the statute's publication clause, some pregnant women have walked out of Danciu's office and had abortions, the lawyer said. On July 24, in response to a suit brought by Danciu, Palm Beach County Circuit Judge Peter Blanc ruled that the law should not apply to rape victims. The lawyer is representing six clients, including a 12-year-old rape victim, who want to offer their offspring for adoption but haven't been able to locate the fathers or don't know their identities. Danciu plans to appeal to have the law declared unconstitutional for adults and minors alike. Under the judge's ruling, if there was consensual sex, which in the case of one of my clients involves a 14-year-old who slept with numerous men and boys in her school, she would have to put these ads in her hometown newspaper, with their names, plus their descriptions: eye color, hair color, weight, height, Danciu said. It's repulsive. I refuse to do it. The law's chief sponsor was state Sen. Walter Skip Campbell Jr., a Democrat from Broward
Re: Discouraging credential sharing with Mojo
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Anonymous wrote: Clearly we need a new approach. Here is a suggestion for a simple solution which will give everyone an important secret that they will avoid sharing. At birth each person will be issued a secret key. This will be called his Mojo. [snip] Now all that is needed is a simple change to the law so that knowing someone's Mojo makes him your slave. Virtually all cultures have held the mythological belief that all beings with souls have a True Name, and that knowledge of one's true name leads to power over him. (This isn't really surprising, since the True Name concept features prominently in Babylonian mythology, from which the myths of nearly all other civilizations have sprung.) For instance, knowing the True Name of a god could result in one being granted godly powers, or immortality (cf: Isis learning the True Name of Ra in Egyptian mythology). In Greek (and neo-pagan) nature myths, speaking the true name of a landscape object could give the speaker protection or favors from the spirit inhabiting the object. In Hebrew, Essene, and Islamic mythology, as well as Celtic, Pacific Island, and Norse tales, the True Name theme appears repeatedly. Etc. It sounds like you wish to revive this superstition, but instead make it cryptographically enforcable. Trust in the laws of mathematics and men, not of gods? Welcome to the Church of Strong Cryptography. Please join me in supporting this important reform. Just say, I want my Mojo! Sometimes, I wonder if some of these posts are not intended to be as ironic as they appear. -MW-
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For Telecom Workers, Burst Of Bubble Takes Heavy Toll (was: employment market for applied cryptographers?)
[Because of its relevance and since most list members are probably not WSJ subscribers, I've taken the liberty of posting the entire article. sds] From the Wall Street Journal -- For Telecom Workers, Burst Of Bubble Takes Heavy Toll By REBECCA BLUMENSTEIN RICHARDSON, Texas -- Two years ago, J. Michael Dugan spread the word to his fellow optical engineers in North Texas that he was starting a company that could make them all rich. The telecommunications business was hot, and optical engineers were the hottest commodities of them all, commanding big signing bonuses and six-figure salaries. Mr. Dugan, a burly Texan with more than 20 years under his belt at the giant French equipment maker Alcatel SA, was persuasive. So many flocked to his annual summer party in July 2000 to learn more about Latus Lightworks that he ran out of food. The start-up took off quickly, hiring 120 employees as the engineers raced to devise ways to squeeze more data and voice traffic through a hair-thin strand of fiber-optic glass. Then the bubble burst. A few weeks ago, when all those engineers gathered again in Mr. Dugan's backyard, it was to commiserate and swap job leads. Ken Maxham, a cheery 59-year-old who comes from a long line of engineers, was worried about his unemployment benefits running out as his savings dwindle. He had cut back expenses as much as possible, but basic health insurance costs $750 a month and his wife was putting off going to the dentist for a toothache. David Wolf, who at 37 is one of the youngest optical engineers around, was counting the days until his second start-up was due to run out of money. The fresh-faced father of three young children was pruning expenses such as his daughter's gymnastics lessons and worrying about the future. Mr. Dugan, whose work as a temporary consultant was about to end, was contemplating returning to school at age 50. And the party was buzzing about a cruel twist of fate: Two of the former colleagues had just gone head-to-head for one of the few remaining telecom jobs out there. The one in the more precarious financial position didn't get it. When I see someone I haven't seen in a while, my first question is, 'Do you have a job?' said Bruce Raeside, a 46-year-old Michigan native who also worked as a Latus engineer. It's almost like Detroit in the '70s. In many ways, it's worse. Like the massive declines in the nation's steel, oil and automobile industries in decades past, the disintegration of the telecom business is leaving deep wounds in the U.S. work force. But labor historians say telecom stands out for the unprecedented speed of the boom-and-bust cycle. After telecom was deregulated in 1996, it quickly expanded by some 331,000 jobs before peaking in late 2000. Since the downturn started, though, companies have announced layoffs that have wiped out all those new jobs and more -- a total of well over 500,000 workers, according to a tally by The Wall Street Journal. By contrast, it took two decades for the ranks of the United Auto Workers to fall to 732,000 from 1.5 million, as the auto industry was forced to become much more efficient in the face of foreign competition. The number of telecom jobs grew faster and has fallen much harder than the overall job market, according to James Glen, an economist with Economy.com, a West Chester, Pa., research firm. He says the 12% drop in telecom jobs is still gaining steam, especially as the rout claims bigger and bigger companies such as Global Crossing Ltd. and WorldCom Inc. And the economic and human cost of the telecom bust far exceeds that of the highly publicized Internet crash, which by and large involved smaller companies. Telecom has turned into one of history's biggest bubbles because so much money poured into the industry during the stock-market boom, creating some $470 billion in debt and a vast glut of capacity. Once a sleepy industry known for its modest growth, telecom took off like a rocket in the late '90s as companies rushed to lace the world with ultra-fast fiber-optic networks to carry an expected onslaught of Internet traffic. But after a frenzy of spending and hiring, it suddenly became clear in mid-2001 that the Internet wasn't growing nearly as fast as the 1,000-fold annual increases originally predicted. The huge run-up has now been replaced by a merciless ride down. Rumors of foreclosures and marital problems have replaced word of the latest IPO. Some laid-off telecom workers are even turning up in local homeless shelters. So much money was spent buying telecom gear during the frenzy that there is now seven years' worth of excess inventory, says Lonnie Martin, chief executive of White Rock Networks, a Richardson start-up that is trying to hang on. He values the excess supply at some $160 billion. That is an awful lot of exuberance to get rid of, he says. There are few places where the hangover is more severe than here in the sun-blasted plains north of Dallas. Back during the boom years,
alternate dos pgp client?
The latest release of Mixmaster claims to be an OpenPGP enhancement release. I looked at the source more closely, and it seems to contain an entire pgp implementation. I had previously thought it made external calls to either pgp or gnupg. This got me thinking - has anyone tried hacking mixmaster to be a pgp client? I have compiled it under DOS before, so I know that is possible. Does anyone know if mixmaster can use 'non-legacy' RSA keys? Is there any pgp functionality that it lacks? I am looking for a pgp implementation that will run on DOS, but will also be compatible with modern key types.
Chaum's unpatented ecash scheme
David Chaum gave a talk at the Crypto 2002 conference recently in which he briefly presented a number of interesting ideas, including an approach to digital cash which he himself said would avoid the ecash patents. The diagram he showed was as follows: Optimistic Authenticator z = x^s Payer f(m)^a z^b Bank - [f(m)^a z^b]^s - m, f(m)^s - It's hard to figure out what this means, but it bears resemblance to a scheme discussed on the Coderpunks list in 1999, a variant on a blinding method developed by David Wagner. See http://www.mail-archive.com/coderpunks@toad.com/msg02323.html for a description, with a sketch of a proof of blindness at http://www.mail-archive.com/coderpunks@toad.com/msg02387.html and http://www.mail-archive.com/coderpunks@toad.com/msg02388.html. In Chaum's diagram it is not clear which parts of the key are private and which public, although z is presumably public. Since the bank's action is apparently to raise to the s power, s must be secret. That suggests that x is public. However Chaum's system seems to require dividing by (z^b)^s in order to unblind the value, and if s is secret, that doesn't seem possible. In Wagner's scheme everything was like this except that the bank's key would be expressed as x = z^s, again with x and z public and s secret. f(m) would be a one-way function, which gets doubly-blinded by being raised to the a power and multiplied by z^b, where a and b are randomly chosen blinding factors. The bank raises this to its secret power s, and the user unblinds to form f(m)^s. To later deposit the coin he does as in the third step, sending m and f(m)^s to the bank. For the unblinding, the user can divide by (z^b)^s, which equals z^(b*s), which equals (z^s)^b, which equals x^b. Since x is public and the user chose b, he can unblind the value. Maybe the transcription above of the Chaum scheme had a typo and it was actually similar to the Wagner method. Chaum commented that the payer does not receive a signature in this system, and that he doesn't need one because he is protected against misbehavior by the bank. This is apparently where the scheme gets its name.
Re: Bankrupt Digicash Made $481K in 1999
At 5:59 PM -0700 on 8/20/02, John Young wrote: Robert, WTF you asking? A mere rhetorical question, of course. The doc came from Anonymous, the one and only reliable source. It was ever thus. Inhale, hold it. ffttt... cough! Wow... That's some real thunderfuck, J. Beats the hell out of the stuff you pulled out of your sock last week. I mean, that shit was *foul*, man... Cheers, RAH Damn, I'm hungry. Anybody wanna go in on a pizza? In the meantime, I've got some cheetos stashed around here somewhere... -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
RE: Seth on TCPA at Defcon/Usenix
At 12:58 AM 08/11/2002 -0700, Lucky Green wrote: BTW, does anybody here know if there is still an email time stamping server in operation? The references that I found to such servers appear to be dead. The canonical timestamping system was Haber Stornetta's work at Bellcore, commercialized at Surety.com. The site is current, has some Digital Notary Service and Secure Email things on it, and something much more amazing - it looks like they received $7M in financing in June :-) There's a nice collection of pointers to timestamping systems at http://saturn.tcs.hut.fi/~helger/crypto/link/timestamping/ though I don't know how current the references are - the page was last updated 14.8.2002. The free PGP-based system http://www.itconsult.co.uk/stamper.htm has a news item from 04-Jun-02, which comments that, although they haven't posted any news items in five years, they've been in continuous operation
Re: Bankrupt Digicash Made $481K in 1999
At 12:12 PM 8/20/2002 -0700, Steve Schear wrote: At 12:33 PM 8/20/2002 -0700, you wrote: Digicash 1999 IRS forms: http://cryptome.org/digicash-481k.htm Perhaps its my ignorance, but doesn't this form merely mean DC paid the Chaum Family Trust $481K, not that the company made $481K? (since the PKI market's been in the toilet, I've been learning about taxation) Even that assumes too much - there wasn't necessarily a transfer of money. If, for example (and this is purely hypothetical), Chaum had agreed to work for DC in exchange for 1,000,000 shares of stock, and $481K was the fair market value of those shares, then it would be proper to issue a 1099-MISC with that amount in Box 3 and Chaum would be taxed on that $481K as income, even though he received it as stock instead of cash. (If the circumstances were different, the income might be expected to show up in Box 7, nonemployee compensation; but here it's in Box 3, which should transfer directly either to Line 21 on the 1040 for miscellaneous income, or onto a Schedule C, assuming it's an individual taxpayer, which isn't the case here.) This sort of 1099 is also what you'd expect to see going to the recipient of cash as damages following or related to a lawsuit. If Digicash loaned money to Chaum and later forgave the debt (not unusual, where a founder or other important employee wants to exercise stock options early but doesn't have cash for the exercise), Chaum would be obligated to report the forgiven debt as income but a 1099 would not be required; that doesn't stop people from sending them anyway. -- Greg Broiles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PGP 0x26E4488c or 0x94245961
IETF WG on SMTP feeler...
There has been an awful lot of discussion on this here in CP land, so maybe some responses too? A good place to put forward suggestions to make hard calculations a requirement of delivery or maybe some digicash to pay for it? *** Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 16:12:51 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org This is copy of the message sent to IETF mail list. As subject said, I'd like to organize IETF working group to define new additions to SMTP. As everyone I'm sure have seen on the last why is spam a problem and other similar threads on ietf as well as numerous similar threads on other lists and boards, there is a serious need to do something to limit amount of unsolicited email. While the roots maybe social issue I do not see why we can not work on it from technical point of view. In addition to that during last years, I'v seen real need for new features to be added into SMTP, such as ones for callback, delayed transmission, delivery notification,secure communications, etc, etc and there are in fact several drafts available on some issues. As far as anti-spam mechanisms I do not belive we should force some particular method on everyone but rather built several verification features into protocol and allow server operators to themselve choose if they want to use it. Where the features were use the email would be considered more secure and users can use that to sort out mail (as many do already with special filters). I believe its time we start working within IETF on new version of SMTP that would have more features and be more secure. I'v tried to point this out several times before on nanog and ietf hoping that someone would take the initiave but as this did not happen, I'm willing to do it now. At this point I'm proposing creation of IETF working group that would look into ways to extend SMTP. I'v created website and mailing list to discuss charter of the proposed working group at http://www.smtpng.org Those who agree with me, please subscribe to the mailing list and lets work on this futher in a kind-of BOF. I'm also looking for two co-chairs for the working group with at least one preferablly having been chair of ietf group before. I'm planning on sending final draft for working group charter in about two weeks time and right now I'm going to be contacting several people who have expressed interest in working on SMTP protocol as well as contacting IETF area director on proceeding with this. -- William Leibzon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternate dos pgp client?
I put together a list of openpgp related software at: http://www.cypherspace.org/openpgp/ this includes library only code, and add on software. Not sure about your questions about key versions, but I forwarded it to Ulf Moeller and Len Sassaman (current maintainer of mix3). From what I've seen mix3 (pgptest app) is the closest to providing a command line. There was also Tom Zerucha's reference openPGP code, which is command line but it's alpha level code I think and no longer maintained. Adam On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 09:28:47PM -0500, Anonymous wrote: The latest release of Mixmaster claims to be an OpenPGP enhancement release. I looked at the source more closely, and it seems to contain an entire pgp implementation. I had previously thought it made external calls to either pgp or gnupg. This got me thinking - has anyone tried hacking mixmaster to be a pgp client? I have compiled it under DOS before, so I know that is possible. Does anyone know if mixmaster can use 'non-legacy' RSA keys? Is there any pgp functionality that it lacks? I am looking for a pgp implementation that will run on DOS, but will also be compatible with modern key types.
Re: alternate dos pgp client?
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Anonymous wrote: This got me thinking - has anyone tried hacking mixmaster to be a pgp client? I have compiled it under DOS before, so I know that is possible. Does anyone know if mixmaster can use 'non-legacy' RSA keys? Is there any pgp functionality that it lacks? I am looking for a pgp implementation that will run on DOS, but will also be compatible with modern key types. It is possible to build a simple PGP client with the source you have -- the file pgptest.c offers that, but it's really only for debugging purposes. Run make mpgp in the Src directory to try it. A better interface to the standalone PGP functions shouldn't be hard to write. We can look into that if there is demand for it. Note that Mixmaster has no concept of the web of trust, and doesn't do keychain management. It assumes that if you are placing a key on your keyring, you've determined it is valid. That said, Mixmaster does offer all the basic OpenPGP messaging capabilities, except for verification of clear-signed messages. (This wasn't needed for any of the features Mixmaster provides, so it wasn't added.) We'll be adding this capability soon, however. (The author of the QuickSilver Windows remailer client app has requested it. QuickSilver provides PGP capabilities through the Mixmaster .dll, sans clearsig verification.) Mixmaster does support RSA v4 keys, though it doesn't have Twofish support since it links against OpenSSL for its crypto, and OpenSSL doesn't have Twofish support. If you have OpenSSL 0.9.7, Mixmaster will support AES. (Also, Mixmaster now supports use of the Modification Code Detection packet in OpenPGP messages, which is used to prevent the attack Schneier, et al. recently wrote about.) As far as DOS goes -- I honestly haven't tried compiling for DOS. It should work. Please let me know if you run into any problems. (And, as always, we're in need of developers and testers. If you're interested in working on this project, please join the development mailing list. See mixmaster.sf.net for more info.) --Len.
Re: IETF WG on SMTP feeler...
There has been an awful lot of discussion on this here in CP land, so maybe some responses too? A good place to put forward suggestions to make hard calculations a requirement of delivery or maybe some digicash to pay for it? SMTP will never change, assuming it is a pipe dream. There is no record of basic internet protocol ever being changed away from compatibility (and guess what, spammers won't upgrade.) Looks like desperate dotcommies. If you want to be seen by the world, the world will send you shit. No way around it. = end (of original message) Y-a*h*o-o (yes, they scan for this) spam follows: HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com
Re: Signing as one member of a set of keys
On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, Anonymous wrote: *** COULD SOMEONE PLEASE FOLLOW THE STEPS ABOVE AND PUT THE ringsig.c, ringsign, ringver, AND sigring.pgp FILES ON A WEB PAGE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN DOWNLOAD THEM WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE STEPS? *** The files are available at: http://www.abditum.com/~rabbi/ringsig/ Also, if you'd like to send me a more detailed blurb for the webpage, I'd be happy to put it up. Otherwise, this will have to do. 9. Please report whether you were able to succeed, and if not, which step failed for you. I just ran into a bunch of errors when trying to compile with OpenSSL 0.9.7beta3. I'm debugging now... --Len.
