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Inferno: Risks: Rising Vigilantism (fwd)

2003-01-06 Thread Jim Choate 

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 22:53:32 -0600
Subject: Risks: Rising Vigilantism

 From Risks Digest 22.47, [ http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/22.47.html ]

--

Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 08:38:53 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bruce Schneier: Counterattack and vigilantism

Excerpt from
CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2002
   by Bruce Schneier

Counterattack

This must be an idea whose time has come, because I'm seeing it talked
about everywhere.  The entertainment industry floated a bill that would
give it the ability to break into other people's computers if they are
suspected of copyright violation.  Several articles have been written on
the notion of automated law enforcement, where both governments and
private companies use computers to automatically find and target
suspected criminals.  And finally, Tim Mullen and other security
researchers start talking about "strike back," where the victim of a
computer assault automatically attacks back at the perpetrator.

The common theme here is vigilantism: citizens and companies taking the
law into their own hands and going after their assailants.  Viscerally,
it's an appealing idea.  But it's a horrible one, and one that society
after society has eschewed.  ...

http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-0212.html#1

Re: Singularity ( was Re: Policing Bioterror Research )

2003-01-06 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer 
>BTW, I think I read somewhere that when the water gets too hot the frog just 
>leaves. 

Like someone already mentioned, all that is needed for the total collapse of the US 
government is that 90+% of sheeple abstains from TV and newspapers for 30 consecutive 
days (externally induced psychosis needs constant maintenance.) Such detox event would 
be the most dramatic social phenomenon in the last hundred years.

But it's impossible promulgate even that simple idea and therefore the frog stays.


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Singularity ( was Re: Policing Bioterror Research )

2003-01-06 Thread GaryJeffers 
My Fellow Cypherpunks,


   I forgot to mention that the peoples' media is the Internet. When, I want news anymore I just go to http://www.WHATREALLYHAPPENED.com .
There is a surprising number of real news sources on the Internet. - Usually described as conspiracy theory sites. 
Conspiracy theory: Explanations that do not agree with Establishment dogma. The science article overlooked the Internet.



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Singularity ( was Re: Policing Bioterror Research )

2003-01-06 Thread GaryJeffers 



Michael Motyka  writes

>BTW, I think I read somewhere that when the water gets too hot the frog just leaves. It was in print, it must be true
.
Cypherpunks uses a specially bred Platonic Ideal frog that dependable stays in the water until he's cooked.

Tim May writes:

>People,Please don't quote a long article and then bottom-post a few comments. Or top-post a few comments. In fact, the best idea is to only quote enough to >remind other readers what you are commenting on.It's not a matter of bandwidth, it's a matter of relevance and consideration.I plan to plonk anyone who keeps >doing this. (8 list members are in my plonk file right now...I only see their crap through the comments of others, though replies seem to be scarce for all but >one of them, so perhaps others have formed the same opinion as I have.)

   More helpfully, in this instance, you could have put a link to the Cypherpunk's post in the Cypherpunks archieve at:
http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks

   My comment on the science article: There is an Establishment view that is "singular" - one. The mass media, banking industry, big industry,
Christian and Jewish churches, and public education all are just tentacles of the same ruling elite.



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Re: Let there be Blah

2003-01-06 Thread Tim May 
On Sunday, January 5, 2003, at 11:33  PM, Anonymous wrote:


Blah wrote quite an excellent post. In fact, I've met few physics PhDs 
which would have been able to respond so well. So needless to say, my 
curiosity is peaked concerning who Blah is in "the real

Or even piqued.


world".


Weirder still that one of several people who present themselves as the 
fictional "Tyler Durden" would claim to be interested in who the real 
identity of "Blah" is.


 (Tim May, I believe, is trained in physicsist, but there's no way 
someone out of school for so long is going to voluntarily remember 
what's in the last chapter of Schiff. Also, they didn't know a lot of 
this stuff back in the horse-and-buggy days when May was in school...)

Showing a failure on your part. The standard model was pretty well 
standardized when I was still in school.

Not that what I learned in school is what I know now. One must keep up, 
mustn't one?

What I know of modern quantum computation comes from books I've only 
had for the past few years, such as Nielsen and Chuang. Even the 
earliest glimmers, from Bennett, Deutsch, and others, came only in the 
late 1980s. By the time I attended a Crypto conference in 1988, quantum 
ideas were only beginning to appear.

As for Schiff, I skipped it, favoring Dicke and Wittke and the 
peculiarities of Dirac. With a smidgin of Messiah and others, and even 
a tiny bit of Bjorken and Drell (ugh). And De Witt and Graham after 
1973. As for charm, I have none, as many can attest. As for 
confinement, not yet.


Anyway, I DID want to ask ole' Blah what he thought about the 
following.
(Now Choate, Shaddup and pay attention: "Slap Slap Slap!")

This sounds typically Hettingaesque. If you start nattering about milk 
squirting out your nose (ObBob: "grin grin"), I'll know for sure that 
Tyler Durden is actually the equally cartoonish Bob Hettinga.


(Bustin' chops, takin' names)



More evidence.

Oh, and please don't top-post (complete text of Blah replying to Choate 
elided).

--Tim May

Homeland Security Conversation of the Day

2003-01-06 Thread R. A. Hettinga 
--- begin forwarded text


Status: RO
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 12:29:20 -0800
Subject: Homeland Security Conversation of the Day
From: Jon Callas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Eristocracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sender: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

From: A Reader
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 13:47:10 -0600
Subject: Homeland Security Conversation of the Day

Jon,

I took 's sister to the Amtrak station today where the station
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Amtrak:  How old are you?
Sister:  Seventeen.
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one will know who you are.

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2003-01-06 Thread Jim Choate 


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Re: Singularity ( was Re: Policing Bioterror Research )

2003-01-06 Thread Tim May 
People,

Please don't quote a long article and then bottom-post a few comments. 
Or top-post a few comments. In fact, the best idea is to only quote 
enough to remind other readers what you are commenting on.

It's not a matter of bandwidth, it's a matter of relevance and 
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I plan to plonk anyone who keeps doing this. (8 list members are in my 
plonk file right now...I only see their crap through the comments of 
others, though replies seem to be scarce for all but one of them, so 
perhaps others have formed the same opinion as I have.)


--Tim May

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I am Sharon Rex; the only Daughter of late Mr and
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Singularity ( was Re: Policing Bioterror Research )

2003-01-06 Thread Michael Motyka 
An Metet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
>>
>> On Saturday, December 21, 2002, at 10:07  AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>>
>> http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2002/1217/1
>>
>> Policing Bioterror Research
>>
>> One of science's hottest fields is now becoming one of its most heavily
>> regulated, too. The U.S. government last week unveiled sweeping new
>> bioterror research regulations that will require 20,000 scientists at
>> nearly 1000 laboratories to beef up security--or face hefty fines and jail
>> sentences. The interim rules, due to go into effect early next year, could
>> also force scientists to get prior approval for a growing list of
>> sensitive experiments.
>>
>> And where in the United States Constitution is there provision
>> for controlling which experiments may be done, for what research
>> articles may be published, for what thoughts may be thought?
>
>I regret to inform you that henceforth, the Constitution and 
>derivative laws will be used only in a public relations sense as 
>a symbol of the legitimacy of the government, rather than as a 
>written delineation of the firm limitations on the powers of 
>government.
>
>Previously, the United States Government claimed a monopoly on 
>intimidation and violence within its borders, and it 
>occasionally added other locales such as Latin America, 
>Southeast Asia, etc.
>
>Currently, it is extending that claim of monopoly world wide, 
>and it is adding to its proscribed list any "precursors" that 
>could aid, support, fund, hide, protect or otherwise further any 
>power to intimidate and apply violence other than that of the 
>United States and its surrogates, most notably the UK.
>
>The precursors will include privacy, in any form, particularly 
>encryption (unless its use is deemed a worthwhile flag for 
>focused surveillance); associations with others, such as any 
>loyal following or set of like-minded independent people that 
>might be led in some direction not of Washington's choosing; 
>information about the actions and plans of government, since 
>that enables interference and could damage public acquiescence 
>to necessary national security measures; financial resources, 
>other than those that pass through verified identity 
>gatekeepers; knowledge of the law, and the process of capturing, 
>obtaining intelligence through torture, and imprisoning people, 
>as that gives a balance of power and a sympathetic public forum 
>to targets; and so on.
>
>Intersections of those precursors, such as privacy and financial 
>resources, or information and private associations, will be 
>particularly attacked.
>
>Not even a massive database on Americans designed by a former 
>disgraced National Security Advisor who was convicted of 5 
>felonies involving shipping shoulder fired missiles to Iran, 
>lying to Congress, funding US-supported terrorism in Nicaragua 
>that was prohibited by law, seems to earn any concern from the 
>sheep. Not even the selected suspension of Habeas Corpus draws a 
>crowd in opposition.
>
>It is quite interesting to see how the evisceration of the Bill 
>of Rights is essentially accepted unopposed. No marches in the 
>streets, no demonstrations, no uproar from the liberal media, no 
>effective political opposition as the Democrats and Republicans 
>are competing only in which can be most draconian, as they 
>practiced in setting the imprisonment penalties in the "war on 
>drugs".
>
>The frog is being boiled by upping the thermostat a degree at a 
>time, and it is just happily basking in the warming waters, 
>trusting its attendant to protect its interests, in the name of 
>National Security.
>
>Lest one blame this president or his party, consider that there 
>is no daylight between the parties on these measures.
>
>The only debate we hear among our politicians is whether or not 
>to preemptively do a Pearl Harbor on Iraq with or without a UN 
>stamp of acquiescence. A war must be fought to provide a clearer 
>reason for and distraction from the rise of fascism. If the 
>people can be rewarded with cheaper gas at the pump as a bonus, 
>then the highly-favorable body bag count of an imminently-
>videoable war from 40,000 feet and cheaper energy will ensure a 
>continuing grant of carte blanc to the government.
>
>Have you heard Gore or Kerry or Edwards or Daschle or Gebhardt 
>or others bemoan the designation of Americans as "enemy 
>combatants"? Have the Democrats opposed the "USA Patriot Act"? 
>Have the minority members of intelligence commitees demanded 
>information on how powers of grabbing bookseller and library 
>records is being used? No. This competition is one between free 
>people and government-in-lockstep, and almost all of the people 
>accept the ever-warming impositions of government out of custom, 
>accepting the terrorism fear-mongering and long practice, 
>further advanced by a gross ignorance of history.
>
>We are witnessing the rise of a fascist state unlike any other 
>in history, in that this fascis

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2003-01-06 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim 
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Anonymous wrote:

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[p2p-hackers] p2p-hackers meeting, this upcoming sunday (fwd)

2003-01-06 Thread Eugen Leitl 
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 12:39:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Bram Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [p2p-hackers] p2p-hackers meeting, this upcoming sunday

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Re: Dossiers and Customer Courtesy Cards

2003-01-06 Thread Todd Boyle 
Somebody said,
> Frankly, if using my card saves me $10 on a roast,
> it's hard for me not to think it's a good exchange..

Hogwash.  It's not saving customers anything at all.

Same gimmick as credit cards.  Take away a percentage
from noncard-holders and give it to the cardholders.

What economic efficiency or productivity could these
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One cannot argue, "Identity cards enable the store to
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the chains have adequate cash register data.

I don't think the cards are achieving *anything* except
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they get a dollar, from day one, by selling our personal
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The rest of the payoff comes from calculating YOUR
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The cards strengthen their pricing power against YOU.
For example, avoid offering discounts for things you
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out you're paying higher prices on bread than the guy
next to you!!   But in the meantime they will jsut use
the data to confuse you to death, changing prices and
unit sizes and locations of everything in the store, so
it's impossible to comparison shop.

Consumers should begin to request our purchase history
(so we can submit it to regional grocery auctions, competing
chains, comparison websites, etc.)   The chains will say
"HELL NO, are you kidding?"   That will show why they
are really installing the cards!   guffaws!

What's needed is a little embedded linux device with a cheap
scanner, where shoppers can pay a dime, insert their receipt,
and receive their shopping list in XML format, by email.  Thise
should be in front of every store, between the pay phone,
the coinstar, photo kiosks, etc.

I believe it would become clear, grocery stores are as much
an information phenomenon as logistical one.  Direct supply
by producers to residences, for some commodities would
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Re: INVESTMENT PROPOSAL

2003-01-06 Thread abu malika 


RE: INVESTMENT PROPOSAL

INTRODUCTION: l am  DR.ABU MALIKA.a Civil servant.
l know this proposal will come to you as a
surprise because we have not met before
either physically or through correspondence.
I have no doubt in your ability to handle
this proposal involving huge sum of money.

THE SUBJECT: My father ALHAJI MALIKA AHMED.
(Now Late) was the Royal Head of my community, ELEME (an oil rich town) in Nigeria. My 
community produces 5.8% of the total crude oil production in Nigeria and 0.5% of the
Dollar value of each barrel is paid to my father
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In his position as the Royal head and Chairman of
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Due to poor banking system in Nigeria and
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THE PROPOSAL: Just before my father died he  called
my attention to the money and charged me to look
for a foreigner who would assist me in the
transfer/investment of the funds abroad. So l
would be very grateful if you could accept to help me
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expenses we may incure during the transaction. To
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2003-01-06 Thread eCapture 
Title: Neo Logic2
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