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Apparently artwork depicting the horror war is just to disconcerting a backdrop for Ambassador Negroponte as he rallies the troops. http://www.artdaily.com/noticiaframe.asp?not=11fnot=2/2/2003 http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/9820/guernica.htm (the painting in question) We don't want war presented as anything but whoesome entertainment. j
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[Htech] WP: Leave-Us-Alone Democracy (fwd)
A rather unsurprising observation, given the latest evidence. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 17:13:40 -0600 (CST) From: Premise Checker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Htech] WP: Leave-Us-Alone Democracy Leave-Us-Alone Democracy http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A8766-2003Jan31?language=printer Unconventional Wisdom from the Outlook section Sunday, February 2, 2003; Page B05 Ask some political reformers to offer a cure-all for what ails politics, and they'll prescribe some version of the '60s bromide Power to the People! Well, it turns out that the people don't want more political power -- and many would prefer less, say University of Nebraska political scientists John R. Hibbing and Elizabeth A. Theiss-Morse. Based on the results of a national survey, the researchers concluded that nearly half of us would prefer that the government's most significant decisions were made by experts or business leaders rather than by politicians or -- heaven forbid -- the average citizen. The two professors found that democracy alternately bores people silly or upsets them in a fingernails-across-the blackboard, cellophane-crinkling sort of way. They want democracy -- they just don't want to see it, Hibbing said. They don't want to see debate. They don't want to see compromise. They don't want to see multiple issues dealt with at the same time. What most Americans say they want is an unobtrusive, well-behaved, low-demand brand of politics that these researchers call stealth democracy, which is also the title of their newly published book (Cambridge University Press) summarizing the results of a Gallup national survey and eight focus groups that Hibbing and Theiss-Morse conducted. In both the survey and group discussions, most people expressed no desire to learn more about the issues, to get involved themselves or be kept more abreast of these issues, Hibbing said. They're happy to turn it over to others. (There are, of course, a few exceptions -- the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks or war with Iraq among them, he said.) In the poll, respondents were asked if the country would be better off if decisions were left to successful business people, and one-third agreed. Then the respondents were asked if the country would be better off if political decisions were left to unelected experts, and again, a third agreed. All told, nearly half -- 48 percent -- said yes to one or both of these items, which suggested to us a less than committed attitude to accountability and representative democracy, Hibbing said. The professors also found that most of those surveyed hate it when the two major political parties go after each other on major issues -- sort of the political equivalent of children's aversion to seeing their parents argue. In one study Hibbing cited, participants were divided into three groups. One read a description of a heated political debate; the second read a description of a pleasant debate between politicians, and the third group read a description of a political discussion in which the politicians weren't disagreeing. Of course people preferred the pleasant debate to the heated one. But even more significant was that most preferred no debate at all, Hibbing said. People prefer their politics to be neat, clean and nonvisible. But wait a minute. Didn't he and his research partner also find that 84 percent of those interviewed had said the people want to claim more power for themselves through initiatives and referendums? Well, yes, Hibbing said. What they told us is that they still wanted those mechanisms to be there, in case there is a major issue that affects their lives. But until then, politicians shouldn't bother knocking. We are not taking the line that people are incapable of engaging in politics, Hibbing said. The truth is, they don't want to. [snip]
Never plead guilty.
Japan's tough justice BROADCAST: 31/05/2001 If you are unfortunate enough to be arrested for a crime in Japan be prepared to be convicted. Japan's justice system works without juries, and judges find a staggering 99.8 per cent of people guilty. Like the US, Japan has also maintained the death penalty. But as ABC correspondent Peter Martin reports, there's growing pressure for a review. [ AUDIO, TRANSCRIPT] http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/archives/LatelineIssuesIndex_Law.htm
Reagan State of the Union PR Stunt Caused the 1986 Challenger Crash.
U.S. Race to Militarize Space Poses Many Dangers While the world media covers the shuttle Columbia?s tragic crash over northeast Texas, little is said about the ambiguous and deepening relationship between NASA and the military especially under the leadership of NASA's new chief, Sean O?Keefe, a Dick Cheney prot? who served as Secretary of the Navy during the first Bush Administration. The Space Shuttle, for instance, has been used in recent years for everything from repairing the Hubble Telescope to studying the effects of weightlessness on tiny insects to deploying global positioning satellites that provide signals for most of today?s precision-guided ?smart? bombs. On Monday, there was a small protest outside the opening of the 20th Annual Symposium on Space Nuclear Power Propulsion in Albuquerque, New Mexico. NASA hopes to carry out tests for the Pentagon?s ?Space Based Laser? by 2016 or 2017, according to Bruce Gagnon, director of Global Network against Weapons and Nuclear Power in Space. Under the Bush Administration, it is also looking to develop a new generation of nuclear reactors that could not only propel interplanetary spacecraft but provide the enormous power projection capability needed to keep laser battle stations orbiting above the Earth. The weaponization of space is forbidden by the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, which the U.S. signed. The United Nations re-affirmed its supported for that treaty in Nov. 2000 by a vote of 160-0 with the U.S., Israel and Micronesia abstaining. NASA also envisions mining colonies on the Moon, Mars, and asteroids that would be powered by nuclear reactors. All of the above missions would be launched from the Kennedy Space Center in Florida on rockets with a historic 10% failure rate. And, while NASA pours billions into military-related projects, basic maintenance of the space shuttle fleet has been neglected according to a leading British paper. This reports contrasts with The Washington Post?s fawning coverage of NASA?s leadership in the aftermath of Saturday?s events. [ Indymedia Readers Speak Out | Feb. 3 Democracy Now Coverage | How a Ronald Reagan State of the Union PR Stunt Caused the 1986 Challenger Crash ] http://www.indymedia.org/
Taser love.
On November 7, 2002, at ten minutes before three in the afternoon, Stephen Edwards was leaving the Bayview Thriftway with his wife Cindy Edwards. As they walked into the parking lot, a man dressed in dark clothes accosted Stephen, and a struggle began between the two men. By ten minutes after three, Stephen was blue in the face, and was soon being rushed to the hospital in an ambulance. He was declared dead at the hospital less than an hour later. The accounts later published in the Daily Olympian would claim that Stephen was an overweight, out of control, armed shoplifter who was subdued by Olympia Police Officers to protect themselves and the public from his firearm. Those same accounts would claim that he died of 'natural' causes from a heart arrhythmia, or abnormal heartbeat, brought about by his struggle. The use of four 26 watt jolts of 50,000 volts each would be unlikely to have anything to do with the heart attack, according to the TASER manufacturer's hired spokespersons. The Thurston County Sheriff's Office and Coroner both signed documents clearing Olympia Police of any wrongdoing and laid the case at the door of the Olympia City Attorney, recommending that Stephen's widow Cindy be prosecuted for third degree theft. Steven Edwards might have had a gun, but this has not been proven. According to an investigative summary completed by the Thurston County Sheriff's Office, the gun was clean of usable fingerprints. Accounts in police reports and the Olympian indicated it was stolen from Indiana in 1997. It was a rusty .38 caliber Smith and Wesson five-shot revolver, S/N 61333 or 81333, with a Hogue Monogrip.(Olympia Police accounts differ from the Thurston County Investigative Summary by the leading digit.) Stephen Edwards had a license to carry a concealed pistol in Washington State in his wallet at the time of his death. A similar gun taken from the Edwards residence the night of November 7th was kept for weeks, yet was not mentioned in the Sheriff's investigative summary. It was the property of Stephen's daughter. No warrant or property receipt was given for the firearm when it was taken from the home, without permission, by Thurston County Sheriff's Detective David Haller and his partner, Detective Clark. Haller was the man who signed the case file for review by Prosecutors. He is a Property Crimes unit detective, who usually investigates shoplifts and burglaries. The second gun was later returned. The man who originally accosted Stephen was identified in police reports as the store security guard for Bayview Thriftway. He did not wear a uniform, and he does not hold a license to be employed as a security guard. At the time of the incident he had a pair of handcuffs on his person. He is much shorter and is a thinner build than Stephen was. He might have also been equipped with a firearm. He lives in Yelm. NOTE: (RCW 18.170.020 exempts security guards who work for only one employer and are not an employee of a security company, so this man is either in violation of the law or he is an employee of Stormans Inc. (Owner of Bayiew)). In his interviews with police on the night of the incident, the guard claimed that he noticed a gun in the waistband of Stephen's pants after they had already begun struggling in the parking lot, and after he had already told another store employee to call 911. The 911 call came into CAPCOM, the emergency dispatch center, at 2:51 pm. The caller told the dispatch operator that a fight was ongoing in the parking lot, and that a woman had had some groceries stolen from her. She also said the store security officer had some handcuffs on the subject and that they needed the police to take over the arrest. (The 911 caller was wrong about the woman being a theft victim; the woman was Cindy Edwards. She had returned to the store, as instructed by the security guard, and was trying to offer the clerk her bags for examination. She was under the impression that he had accused her of theft.) Olympia Police Officer Jeffrey Jordan arrived first at the scene. He arrived before 2:55 and radioed CAPCOM that he (had) one at gunpoint at 2:56. By this time he had fired his TASER at Stephen's back and used the trigger another three times (four in all) in less than one minute. Olympia Police Officer Paul Bakala arrived just after the fourth jolt and helped Jordan by standing on Stephen's right hand and punching him in the face. Bakala was cut on his knuckle when other officers arrived at the scene. (In the four minutes between the 911 call and the arrival of the officers, no one saw or heard Stephen mention he was going to arm himself or use the gun he supposedly had carried into the store in his pants. Several times, he tried to reach his vehicle in the parking lot; the guard was worried he would obtain a weapon from the vehicle. Why would he need to do this if he already had one?) Officer Jordan first used his TASER before he
Re: The Statism Meme
Tim May wrote... Even t.v. commercials are spreading the meme that Big Brother is our friend. Funny he should mention this. This very morning was watching the news and a commerical came on for a local monitored Burglar alarm system. It featured a Customed Superhero Alarmo (I think), going around the neighborhood interrogating garbage men, mailmen, even kids and dogs and crap. Basically, the guy was 'jokingly' depicted to have gone a little nutty and certainly facsist. And in the end there was an old couple looking on that LOOKED horrified but basically called to see if Alarmo could work for them to. That commercial was either written by a real nut or by someone who also doesn't like the way things are headed. -TD From: Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Statism Meme Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:16:05 -0800 OK, so I watch a lot of t.v., or at least have t.v. dramas on a lot. I'm struck by how many of them this year treat civil liberties as gone, either as old-fashioned or as just plain ignorable. * On the episodes of Law and Order (three different versions weekly, often repeated on other nights), the cops routinely roust citizens, shop owners, hotel clerks, etc. Warrants are the exception, and when they are produced, they are merely waved in front of the targets. Whether this represents reality is not the point--the point is that the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments are treated as technicalities to be violated at will. Cops, prosecutors, and judges violating the Constitution are not sanctioned. Those being violated never fight back, whether with shotguns or their own lawyers. * I just watched a new series called Miracles. A planeload of passengers is held without charges, without arrest warrants. One passenger is simply taken away by the NSA because he may have information of use to them someday. Again, maybe not plausible, but this shows the meme Americans are becoming conditioned to accept. * On one often execrable show called Judging Amy, Child Protection workers are shown bursting into homes and apartments, sans warrants of course. One memorable line was Yes, we can enter your home without a warrant...because we're not the police. * Even t.v. commercials are spreading the meme that Big Brother is our friend. G.E. has one such commercial where doctors are told: Wouldn't it be wonderful if you could just type in a name and see every medical treatment your patient has ever received?...with G.E.'s new software, you'll be able to. (paraphrase of their actual commercial) * Hate speech is presented on these cop and lawyer shows as being ipso facto illegal. These people think the Constitution gives them the freedom to spew hate. * Nearly all of the programs present the Internet as a place which needs government control. The lawyers and cops editorialize (actually, the script writers, of course) about how the Wild West atmosphere is a haven for terrorists, gun nuts, pornographers, and Islamic militants. Various plots on the court shows have involved ISPs being forced to spy on customers. * 9/11 changed everything is heard at least weekly. The judges cite it to justify unconstitutional measures, the prosecutors use it to justify warrantless searches and coerced admissions. Yes, I understand this is all fiction. Well, some of the scripts are based on actual events, including coerced confessions, warrantless searches, sneak and peek wiretaps, concentration camps in Cuba, etc. That so many of these popular programs have themes as I've described tells us what to expect. The statism meme is growing under hothouse conditions. --Tim May, Corralitos, California Quote of the Month: It is said that there are no atheists in foxholes; perhaps there are no true libertarians in times of terrorist attacks. --Cathy Young, Reason Magazine, both enemies of liberty. _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Dian Hardison,american freedom fighter.
http://www.politechbot.com/p-04400.html We need more Dian's,many,many more... When Cypherpunks are called terrorists, we will have done our jobs. Font: Daschle-Anthrax-Bold
The Toxic Combination of the CIA and FBI.
So evil are terrorists they will stop at nothing to destroy America. One such example of this hatred for our TV-watching, mall-shopping way of life surfaced recently in a plot uncovered by the FBI. A Minnesota man, Ilyas Ali, stands accused of selling a whole lot of hashish and heroin so he might buy Stinger anti-aircraft missiles and sell them to the dreaded al-Qaeda who would, of course, take out 747s packed with kindergarten children and grandmothers. Ali, a naturalized US citizen born in India, and two Pakistanis will be sent to San Diego to face charges. Maybe a layover at Camp X-Ray is in order? Or maybe a side trip to one of those infamous interrogation dungeons in Jordan, Egypt, or Morocco? Sarcasm aside, Ali says he was set-up by FBI agents. It was a good old-fashioned American ethic that ensnared the hapless Ali -- a greedy and unchecked desire for money. After $100,000 was stolen from his St. Paul, Minnesota, grocery store, Ali was befriended by two men he later identified as FBI agents; one claimed to be a drug dealer and the other a weapons specialist. As the drugs-for-weapons plan matured, Ali told an AP reporter from a jail, the FBI agents paid to fly him twice to Pakistan and once to Hong Kong. The agents said they would finance the whole sordid affair. We just said OK, OK, because we wanted the money, Ali told Dirk Beveridge of AP. He had no drug connections and claims not to know anybody in al-Qaeda. Moreover, he says there is a tape of his conversation with the FBI agents. There is absolutely nothing in that tape, Ali said. We didn't mention the Stingers. The only one who mentioned the Stingers was the federal agent. The case of Ali and the Pakistanis dovetails nicely with the propaganda of the Bushites (since terrorism and drugs are twin evils threatening the good people of America). John Ashcroft has characterized the case as a reminder of the toxic combination of drugs and terrorism and the threats they can pose to our national security. It may eventually turn out to be a toxic combination dreamed up by scheming FBI agents and conniving bureaucrats in the Justice Department. Since there seems to be little if any al-Qaeda activity threatening Our Way of Life presently -- even though we are warned every few weeks of imminent (and unsubstantiated) attack by tenebrous doers of evil -- the FBI may need to stimulate threats in lieu of the real McCoy. The FBI wouldn't do that, would they? Sure they would. During the heyday of COINTELPRO, the FBI routinely used entrapment against members of the civil rights and antiwar movements. In a later and much publicized case known as Abscam, the FBI (at the behest of the Justice Department) used agents posing as Arab businessmen to contact various public officials for the purpose of offering bribes in return for political favors. Before the Abscam sting against members of Congress in 1980, writes Alan Ehrenhalt, the idea of inventing crimes and using them to tempt public officials was virtually unheard of in this country. If the FBI and Justice Department have no problem using Gestapo-like tactics in orchestrated witch hunts against public officials, what do you think they would do to unknown Indian grocers from Minnesota, especially now with USA PATROIT on the books and the courts rolling over like trained dogs on writs of habeas corpus? The specter of terrorism (especially terrorism created in CIA-funded Afghan camps) gives the FBI and CIA a perfect excuse to return to the good old days of COINTELPRO/Operation CHAOS-like operations. In fact, with a spooky merging of CIA and FBI operations (increased cooperation between the two agencies has resulted in at least one CIA officer at each of the 56 FBI field offices, according to Associated Press reporter John J. Lumpkin), we can likely expect more spurious terror scams, entrapment scenarios, heavy-handed surveillance of political targets, and who knows what else (even assassination attempts were permitted, or at least not punished, under COINTELPRO [see Ward Churchill and Jim Vander Wall, The COINTELPRO Papers, South End Press). But setting people up is not limited to John Ashcroft's Justice Department and Robert Mueller's FBI -- the Pentagon wants to get in on the action with something called P2OG, or Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group. P2OG would roll together CIA and military covert ops personnel (a robust, global cadre of retirees, reservists and others who are trained and qualified to serve on short notice, including expatriates) who will work to stimulate reactions among those deemed terrorists by the Bushites. After setting up so-called terrorists the US military would counterattack, i.e., kill them (no messy extradition or legal procedures required; think Kamal Derwish, a US citizen, killed in Yemen by the judge, jury, and executioner of a CIA-launched Hellfire missile for the crime of riding in a car with Qaed Salim Sinan al-Harethi, supposedly the mastermind behind the alleged
CIA wants to focus.
The CIA has started a new advertising campaign to recruit Chinese-Americans as spies and analysts, as part of an effort to improve its operations against China. Beginning this week, some Asian-oriented publications and newspapers in cities with large Chinese-American communities will run CIA advertisements, which call on Americans of Asian descent to help the agency to stay true to our global focus. Timed to coincide with the Chinese New Year, which began Saturday, the ad features a painting of a ram and the Mandarin characters for Happy New Year. It says: Just as the Year of the Ram is centered on a strong and clear motivation for peace, harmony, and tranquility during challenging times, we are equally intent on our mission to safeguard America and its people. You, too, can play a key role in this important responsibility. The agency also tells Chinese-Americans they can serve the nation instead of working for a private company. Applicants for the job must be U.S. citizens and must be willing to take a lie-detector examination, the ad says. Agency spokesman Mark Mansfield said the CIA hopes the advertisements will attract candidates for analyst jobs as well as for case officers for the clandestine service, as the espionage branch is called. It's an opportunity to reach some Chinese-Americans who otherwise might not consider a career in CIA, Mr. Mansfield said. We're certainly looking for more people with area expertise, cultural knowledge and language skills, he said. CIA has long focused on China and Asia as a whole. Attracting and hiring people in this area continues to be a very high priority. After criticism that its China-intelligence capabilities are weak, the CIA last year received a major funding boost for its China activities. Officials said the boost included tens of millions of dollars to hire more agency analysts and operatives. Differences about how to deal with China remain, however, according to U.S. intelligence officials. Last year, intelligence analysts within the government came under fire from critics who said they were minimizing the national security problems posed by China's growing military and economic power. A draft national intelligence estimate on China's strategic missile forces sought to minimize China's strategic missile buildup, which includes three new types of long-range missiles, including two deployed on hard-to-find road-mobile launchers. In 2001, a panel of outside experts that reviewed the CIA's intelligence on China produced a harshly critical report that found the agency suffered from an institutional predisposition to play down Chinese military developments. Larry Wortzel, a member of the congressional U.S.-China Security Review Commission, said the commission has been urging the CIA to develop a greater capacity to work on China. As someone who has worked inside the belly of the beast as an intelligence officer, it's really useful to have ethnic Chinese who can blend in, said Mr. Wortzel, who has been posted in Beijing. Mr. Wortzel said building the CIA's analytical capabilities will probably take six months to a year. Building a more effective clandestine service to operate against China will take years, he said. The advertisement is a good sign that the CIA recognizes the need to improve its China intelligence-gathering efforts, Mr. Wortzel said. It's a long-term commitment to what is clearly a major intelligence problem for the United States, he said. The Organization of Chinese Americans estimates that there are nearly 2 million Chinese-Americans and 10 million Americans of Asian ancestry. New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco are three of the cities where the ad will appear. They all have large Asian-American populations. Back to Nation/Politics
Worthless Currency.
What's a Few Zeroes Among Friends? by EDWARD J. STEELE You load sixteen tons, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store --Sixteen Tons, Merle Travis So you support the impending war against Iraq, eh? Ok. That will be $2,500, please. Don't worry about sending a check just yet. We will payroll deduct. Oh, and that's just for this year. Then we have to rebuild Iraq, of course. Though we will need another $15,000 from you for that effort, the good news is that it will be spread out over the next decade or so. For now, we'll just add it to your share of the national debt, which is - let's see now - about $387,500 as of today. And then there will be interest on the debt, of course. That totals $19,375 per year on your share of the current balance, assuming 5% interest. As usual, we won't be bothering you to pay off any of the principal for the foreseeable future. What? You don't have it? You didn't budget for it? Don't worry. After all, we don't. In the immortal words of Joe Black, these things have a way of working themselves out. The US population totals 290 million. Though there are 98 million taxpayers, there are 80 million households. Each household consists of 3.63 people. The figures quoted above are per household, a more realistic way of looking at things, I think, since my thirteen-year-old girl simply doesn't generate much in the way of tax revenue. Simply saying the war on Iraq will cost $200 billion has no impact on any but the most inveterate policy wonk. It's really tough to relate to a billion, you see. When I was a kid, pennies counted. Nickels and dimes were money. Dollars were the province of grownups. Of course, then you could send a letter for 3 cents and get a double-scoop ice cream cone for a dime (real scoops, too, not the puny things peddled for a buck apiece today). New cars cost $400...tax included. The only reason we had a concept about millions back then was due to John Beresford Tipton, whose minion each week delivered that sum, tax free, to some poor schmuck whose life subsequently became wrecked by an endless stream of mansions, yachts, servants and hangers-on. That was Fifties TV's The Millionaire. Billion became a concept during the Sixties, thanks to Viet Nam. Of course, most of us know that the world population has doubled recently, to about 6 billion people, most of whose little fingers are hard at work right now, churning out snorkels and snowsuits for Wal-Mart. I honestly don't recall when trillion came into usage. Sometime in the Seventies, I think. It's in full vogue now, however. US gross domestic product (GDP) totals $10 trillion, fully a third of the entire world's GDP (though we number only 5% of the world population). The stock market declined $7 trillion over the past two years (your household's share was $87,500, by the way). It will cost $1.2 trillion to rebuild Iraq, just about half the US national budget each year. What's the next level? Had to stop and think, didn't you? I suppose it is quadrillion, but I'm not certain about that. I still have trouble with millions, to tell the truth. That's why it's easier to think in terms of these national and world figures after they have been boiled down to my share. Mind you, the space shuttle that just blew up cost your household only $32 ($2.1 billion to build plus $470 million for a single launch), but that doesn't include the loss of life. Of course, the $17,500 you will spend knocking down Iraq and then picking it back up doesn't include the cost of human suffering, either. What is your son worth to you, if he is over there right now? What about all the Iraqis about to die? $600 billion budget deficit for 2003? Huh? Well, I can clearly understand that figure when I realize that my little economic unit (household) is responsible for $7,500 of it. Of course, add in the $200 billion Iraqi war and the $100 billion economic stimulus package that Bush the Second is pushing, and my share of the deficit (and yours) grows to $11,250. And that doesn't include interest. Or the billions to fight AIDS in Africa. Or all that other stuff Bush outlined the other night. Now, I don't know about you, but I would have trouble if I spent $11,250 more than I earn each and every year. Things are different when you get to print the money, of course. It helps when you are the world's only superpower, too. You might be thinking that lots more is being spent on your household's account than you personally pay in taxes, so you're ahead of the game. Tax on, MacDuff! We be making out. You would be wrong. Sure, some pay more and some pay nothing, but the average American household is right in there on these figures. Especially those to whose eyes these words are phosphorescing out right now. You see, a goodly amount gets siphoned off before you ever get a chance to fork it over via
Costs socialized, benefits privatized. That is the reality of the 'free market'
Oil and War by MILAN RAI Is the projected war on Iraq intended to reinforce US domination of the energy resources of the Middle East? This explanation has such force that the Daily Telegraph featured a rebuttal by a former speechwriter for President Bush, David Frum. Frum, now a resident fellow at American Enterprise Institute, argued in late October that 'Those Americans who worry most about oil tend to oppose action against Saddam, because they worry about the effects an Iraq war would have on Saudi Arabia.' The former editor of the Wall St Journal went on: 'Listen to the retired officials and distinguished public servants who have criticised President Bush's Iraq policy--the Brent Scowcrofts and the James Bakers, the Anthony Zinnis and the Laurence Eagleburgers--and you will hear that word 'stability' over and over again. 'Stability' means oil.' Frum dismissed the arguments that the war on Iraq would be for 'access to oil': 'America can already freely purchase all the oil it wants. There has not been a credible threat to access to oil supplies since the Arab embargo of 1973-74 and there is no credible threat to access today. Saddam wants to sell more oil, not less.' The war would not be 'for cheaper oil'--'a $12-$15 price [per barrel of oil] would close down the larger part of America's domestic production and drive the country's dependence on oil imports up from 50 per cent toward the two thirds or three quarters mark'. So far Frum is persuasive. He begins to wobble in the closing stages of his argument, however, when he argues that the war would not be 'for oil contracts'. The speechwriter asks rhetorically, 'why would any government--and especially one as cynical as Mr [Alan] Simpson [MP] believes America's to be--fight a war widely expected to cost $100 billion to gain contracts worth $40 billion'. $40bn being Frum's estimate of the value of the Iraqi oil contracts currently held by Russian oil companies. $40 billion is 'only a little more than half the gross state product of Arkansas,' Frum points out. Does Alan Simpson MP 'really imagine that any president, no matter how inebriated, would risk the lives of American soldiers--and his own political future--for that?' There are two issues here--the value of Iraqi oil to US corporations, and the question of imperial cost/benefit analysis. Taking the second question first, throughout history imperial powers have expended more in wars of conquest and subjugation than could be earned from the colonies acquired or subdued. The US wars in Indochina are a staggering example of how disproportionate economic costs can be relative to perceived material benefits. The costs of empire are borne by society as a whole, while the benefits of empire are enjoyed by the influential few. Therefore, in general, for those who make policy--who share interests and viewpoints with those who hold domestic power--it is entirely rational to use the resources of society to secure the interests of the wealthy and powerful, even if expenditure far exceeds projected returns. Costs are socialised, benefits are privatised. That is the reality of our 'free market' economy. Turning to the question of material benefit, there is one significant omission from Frum's article: Iraq's oil reserves. Iraq possesses the second largest proven oil reserves in the world after Saudi Arabia. The world's proven oil reserves are roughly 1,000bn barrels of oil. Iraq's proven reserves total 112bn barrels, over a tenth of all known oil supplies. As the Economist pointed out a few days before Frum's article, 'The big prize is control of the country's oil reserves.' While UN sanctions forbid foreigners from investing in the oilfields, 'that has not stopped firms rushing to sign contracts in the hope of exploiting fields when sanctions are lifted.' Oil companies from France, China, and India, even Royal Dutch/Shell have signed deals with Baghdad. 'Lukoil, a Russian giant, has an enormous field holding down over 11 billion barrels of oil; the firm plans to invest $4 billion over the lifetime of the field to develop it.' The contracts are generous: analysts at Deutsche Bank estimate that plausible rates of return are 'of the order of 20%'. Oil from the North Sea costs $3 to $4 a barrel to produce. According to John Teeling, 'head of one of the few western companies to admit to working in Iraq', Iraqi oil could cost as little as 97 cents per barrel to produce: 'Ninety cents a barrel for oil that sells for $30--that's the kind of business anyone would want to be in. A 97% profit margin--you can live with that,' says Teeling. The Economist remarks, 'All of this must be bad news for those excluded from the party: the Americans.' Figures in the US oil industry insist that a new regime would tear up existing contracts, while the head of the Iraqi National Congress, an umbrella opposition group, has openly declared that 'American companies will
Re: Say goodbye to the ISS
From: Malcolm Carlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 16:42 I was shocked to learn Saturday that NASA had not a mechanism to adequately inspect the exterior of the shuttles for damage before the return to earth. The reasons given seem to imply that NASA's ability for EVAs was very limited and did not generally include on most flight the possibility of such examinations. Further there was no effective ground or ISS-based observation method either. Weird. I recall when the shuttles first began flying, reading about how the bottom of at least some the ships (certainly the first) were being examined for damage remotely, by telescope from the ground. Further, I distinctly recall reading an article that described, and I believe had one or more photos of, a tile repair kit for use in space. What happened to all of these things, I wonder? I must admit it also seems very strange that the shuttle couldn't have been examined while docked to the ISS. The reports I've read say that the shuttle couldn't dock with the ISS because it didn't have the appropriate docking mechanisms. Ever lovable and always scrappy, kawaii Julius Caesar extinguished himself on the battlefields of Gaul. The Ides of March murdered him because they thought he was going to be made king. Dying, he gasped out: Tee hee, Brutus.
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Tiny whiskers make huge memory storage
http://www.upi.com/print.cfm?StoryID=20030131-020248-9059r Tiny whiskers make huge memory storage UPI Science News From the Science Technology Desk Published 1/31/2003 4:07 PM BUFFALO, N.Y., Jan. 31 (UPI) -- New, tiny magnetic sensors could help break a technical barrier to ushering in the next generation of computer disk storage capacity, researchers reported Friday. The sensors, filaments of nickel thinner than a wavelength of visible light, are capable of detecting extremely weak magnetic fields. SNIP Yeah, yeah, yeah, lots of hype about storing terabytes and so on, not worried about that at all. The real question now is this: how effective are these nickel whiskers are recovering erased data off existing platters, or more precisely how many times do we need to overwrite a disk now to wipe the data? The Guttman technique is what, overwrite something 37x with various patterns and random numbers, so how does this discovery change this number? Yes, yes, we've all discussed to death that the best way to wipe a hard disk is to melt it down in a furnace, scatter the ashes in the ocean, etc... but what if you want to reuse it? (The 2nd obvious parallel is to encrypt everything ahead of time too... also discussed to death, see the archives, yadda, yadda) My question is what's a reasonable order of magnitude of overwriting data now, assuming you're not trying to hide data from, say the NSA. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :NSA got $20Bil/year |Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :and didn't stop 9-11|share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ --*--:Instead of rewarding|monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :their failures, we |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :should get refunds! |site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net
Send in the clowns.
Dont send in the Marines. Send in the Libertarians. hear hear...(haha) Tikrit - Corralito's sister city program anyone? http://freedom.orlingrabbe.com/lfetimes/war_weaponbeyond.htm Libertarians have even developed a hilarious process of tossing soft nerf balls at each other to signal when tensions are being caused while giving status to champions of hard to implement or controversial proposals. Methods involve Recognition that SPT and SPT-like processes are a key tool in doing Libertarianism Teaching communications techniques used in SPT to Libertarians Brainstorming Intentional dialog Team-building exercises Measuring support before discussing ideas Consensus building Identification and handling of third-rail issues Developing champions for ideas Replacing factionalism with nerf balls.
Anarchist Law.
Anarchist Law: Some Hard Questions by Keith Preston Many would no doubt find the idea of anarchist law to be an oxymoron. One of the most common objections to anarchism raised by lay people involves the misperception that anarchy would be no more than a free-for-all on the part of brigands and criminals. Informed people know better, although some anarchists do profess opposition to law rhetorically. However, this is simply a matter of semantics. With the possible exception of certain extreme Stirnerites, nearly all anarchists believe that such acts as robbery, rape and murder should be socially disallowed. It is not my aim here to outline a model for an anarchist crime control system, as I have done that elsewhere (1). Instead, I want to address the broader questions of how anarchist legal institutions might be structured and what the content of anarchist law would be, along with the thorny matter of the presence of non-anarchist or non-libertarian ideological or cultural groups in a predominately anarchist society. Unfortunately, the classical anarchists left this area of their respective ideological systems quite underdeveloped. Proudhon, Bakunin and Kropotkin each indicate in their scattered writings that the inviolability of contracts would serve as the basis of an anarchist legal order (2). Each of these classical European anarchists claimed to oppose The Law as an institution. Yet each of them hinted that something similar to common or customary law would replace formal statist legistlation following the demise of the state. Something akin to the modern libertarian notion of the non-aggression axiom is implicit in many of their comments on these matters. It is important to remember that Proudhon, et. al. came out of what was largely a feudal society and were heavily influenced by continental European and, to some degree, classical Greek conceptions of justice, freedom and the like. The Anglo-American notions of individualism were largely absent from their culture. So some of their ideas in this area seem a bit muddled from the perspective of modern North American libertarian sensibilities. Contemporary leftist-anarchists are hardly any help on these matters. The more articulate and thoughtful persons among their ranks generally claim to favor a social system that resembles nothing quite so much as a New England town meeting combined with economic arrangements closer in form to the Israeli kibbutzim than anything else, with a prevailing egalitarian-humanist-multiculturalist-feminist-ecologist-gay liberationist-animal liberationist cultural ethos. I see nothing inherently wrong with this model, although the way it is described it often sounds more similar to old-style British Fabian municipal socialism than any sort of actual anarchism. Anarcho-social democracy, as I call it (3). On one hand an America composed of hundreds of miniature Swedens might well be preferable to the current system (at least World War Three would not be looming) (4). However, given the fractitiousness of left-anarchist groups, I doubt their ideal of consensus-based direct democracy could maintain much of an actual consensus for long. Also, given the infatuation with neo-Leninist political correctness displayed by many in this milieu, I suspect direct democracy would more closely resemble a synthesis of a Maoist self-criticism session and outright mob rule. Perhaps mob rule at the neighborhood level would not be all that pernicious. Not surprisingly, it was the American anarchist Benjamin R. Tucker who had the most well-developed conception of law of any of the classical theorists. His ideas on these matters were quite similar to those of modern free-market anarchists and, indeed, Tucker was a major influence on Murray N. Rothbard. Tucker did not reject law per se and accepted the possibility of prisons, torture and even capital punishment under an anarchist legal system. He seemed to favor something akin to common law juries and regarded what is now called jury nullification as the primary safeguard against potential oppression by legal institutions. Rothbard developed the idea of free market law much more thoroughly and modeled his system on non-statist legal codes from the past-Roman private law, medieval Law Merchant, admirality law and British common law (5). Rothbard's views on the proper application of libertarian law could be rather doctrinaire and the British classical liberal writer Geoffrey Sampson once speculated that Rothbard probably would have considered any deviation from his system to be a form of cryto-statism to be suppressed by force (6). Other anarcho-libertarian legal theorists including David Friedman, Bruce Benson, Randy Barnett, Morris and Linda Tannehill, Jarrett Wollstein, Hans Hermann Hoppe and George H. Smith have attempted to outline models for potential anarchist legal systems. Typically, this will include some scheme where
Anchluss economics.
The Austrian school of economics is very popular in libertarian and anarchist circles today. Part of that school is its methodology which favors building up theories based on axioms of human action. The Austrian school says that these axioms need no empirical verification. I believe any methodology that rejects empirical testing of theories is flawed. Once the scientific revolution reaches the social sciences, any school of thought that denies the empirical method will have to be abandoned just as happened in the physical and biological sciences. If libertarianism and anarchism are bundled together with Austrian economics, our politics will be disgraced along with Austrian economics and we'll receive the same respect as creationism or flat earth geography. Apparently there are economists who call themselves Austrians but are not orthodox in that they accept some empirical testing of their theories. I believe any economic theory must be tested however, not just some peripheral theories, and I will argue for this general rule. When we study economics, we are dealing with observables. The prices of products, exchange rates of different national currencies, and the employment rate are all things we can observe. If we have a theory about how such things work, we can test that theory's predictions with what we observe and tell how good the theory is based on how close our predictions came to reality. A theory about economics will either make predictions about reality that can be observed or it will not. If it does not make any predictions that we can check, it is a useless theory and cannot tell us anything about our world. If this theory does make predictions, it is meaningful because its claims about the world can be found to be true or false. If this theory continuously succeeds at making correct predictions, we say this is a good theory, at least in the situations that we've tested it in. If there are parts of our theory that can be discarded while still retaining all of our theory's predictive power, those parts should be discarded. Of course advocates of the Austrian school have objections to these arguments and insist that the empirical method is not a good one for economics. I emailed one of them following an article of his I saw at mises.org which rejected the empirical method. He replied to what I wrote with these things, which are pretty standard arguments from the Austrians. He started by saying that some things, like the law of demand, are set in stone and that if it wasn't true, then we'd have to throw out all our textbooks because we wouldn't know if the law of demand would be true the next day. But this is bad reasoning because if all our textbooks are wrong, we are best off admitting it frankly and starting anew instead of lying to ourselves to make things easier. Also, if an economic law has passed numerous tests and made many true predictions it is very reasonable to believe it will continue to do so, the very reason we empirically test a theory is to find out how reliable it is. He stated that one of the central tenets of Austrian economics is that the laws of human action are not falsifiable. But falsifiability is an absolute requirement of a scientific theory. If a theory makes predictions about reality, it can be falsified. All we'd have to do is find what predictions it makes, then test if those predictions are true. If a theory makes predictions that turn out to be false, we know our theory is wrong. Our Austrians seem to be saying that if we observe one thing and our theory tells us something else, we should ignore what we just saw and continue believing in our theory. Our theory won't be falsifiable only if it makes no predictions, and if it makes no predictions, it's useless for anything. He later said that the premises for human action come from the long-term observations of human behavior and don't need to be continually tested to see if they're true. So he's saying here that situations have been observed where some law appears to hold, in fact numerous situations have backed up the validity of the law. What's odd then is that he seems to be saying that if some other situation comes up that contradicts this law, we should ignore this because the law has held up in so many situations before this happened. But of course this new situation isn't any less valid than any of the others, it happened and if we're interested in the truth, we can't ignore it. Part of scientific reasoning is that we try to prove our theories wrong instead of right. We put them to all sorts of tests to see if they always make correct predictions, and if they continuously pass our tests, we call them good theories and depend on them, though of course they're always up for more testing in other situations and to be tested more accurately. If we have a theory that passes all of our tests for a long time, but then we find a new situation where the
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Kill Americans,Kill all the brutes.
WASHINGTON--Not long ago, I had dinner with a former military officer who participated in information warfare what-if exercises that the Pentagon and the White House ran in the late 1990s. If Saddam ever attacks the U.S. through the Internet and takes out a telecommunications firm, we'll be in a state of war, my dinner companion told me. All bets are off. The Fourth Amendment is on hold. If EarthLink is attacked, the Army could show up and seize control of their servers. That was news to me. Might a shadowy corps of U.S. hacker-soldiers be ready to defend my e-mail in-box from an angry Saddam Hussein seeking revenge for a strike on Iraq? Would using the military to defend U.S. companies even be legal? Or was this a bad knockoff of a Tom Clancy novel? It turns out that the best thinking about cyberwar remains in flux, even after military wonks and nicely compensated Beltway contractors have spent the better part of a decade noodling over it. The reason: We're still waiting for the first real cyberwar between nations to take place. Public discussions go back at least as far as 1995, around which time Richard Aldrich, an Air Force staff judge advocate, wrote a paper called The International Legal Implications of Information Warfare. Aldrich pointed to how the staid Law of Armed Conflict, formalized in the 1949 Geneva Conventions, doesn't jibe well with communications that are ephemeral, global and difficult to trace. For example, a nation violates international treaties by falsely claiming to surrender. Suppose Iraq sent a bogus e-mail message to low-level (U.S.-led) coalition force commanders in the Gulf purporting to be from the commander of all coalition forces indicating that Iraq has surrendered and all hostilities are to cease immediately, Aldrich wrote. If a commander acted on this message believing it to be real, and suffered heavy casualties from an Iraqi force he thought was surrendering but was actually attacking, would Iraq be guilty of violating the Law of Armed Conflict? Another implication is that it may not be permissible for a nation to deploy blunt offensive tactics like the recent Sapphire worm that snarled Microsoft SQL servers. Unless the creature was crafted to disable only legitimate enemy targets, it might violate international law. Since those early discussions, the Pentagon has done what it does best: It has institutionalized and bureaucratized the study of computer warfare, making it a part of the larger field of information warfare. The Pentagon has institutionalized and bureaucratized the study of computer warfare, making it a part of the larger field of information warfare. The Navy's Fleet Information Warfare Center has, for example, added computer network defense to its charter, and the Naval Postgraduate School conducts red team intrusion exercises for students. The Air Force runs a battlelab that invented early-warning systems to alert operators when a network attack is about to take place and a Software Agent for Operations Security that scours dot-mil sites for classified documents. (Perhaps it works: There has been no verified report of classified files leaking through the Web.) Information warfare has even crept, oddly, into a hazard list compiled by Florida's Division of Emergency Management--alongside civil disorders, riots and various weapons of mass destruction. Kill Americans and you're in trouble, a Defense Department spokesman told me on Friday. Whether it's treated as a felony, an act of terrorism or an act of war, you're in for serious consequences. Of course, behind the scenes, we would be having a spirited policy discussion of the relevant laws before a decision was reached. One serious problem that governments face when responding to electronic assaults is that, because their origin may be unknown, the appropriate response depends on whether the culprit is a malicious hacker, a terrorist network--or the dictator of Iraq keyboarding furiously from a bunker deep below Baghdad. Depending on the source and the intent, the same type of intrusion could be a criminal offense or a declaration of war. It's worth noting here that, as my colleague Robert Lemos has explained, the threat of so-called cyberwarfare may be overhyped: True, it's possible for electronic intruders to damage infrastructure and threaten physical harm, but seizing control of systems from the outside is extremely difficult--often impossible--and typically requires inside knowledge. Remember, it's always easier to bomb a target than to hack a PC. Still, how would the Pentagon respond to a serious electronic attack on U.S. infrastructure? It's yet another one of those issues where you would have to decide what the Internet is like, says Eugene Fidell, president of the National Institute of Military Justice. The law often moves by analogy. Is the Internet like newspapers, like the water supply or like the power grid? Is it like
Comments from 1998 on shuttle
From: http://ltp.arc.nasa.gov/space/ask/landing/Black_tiles_falling_off.txt If more than a few were lost from the same area, though, the heat could get bad enough to cause damage to the aluminum skin. Nobody wants to see what would happen if the wings started to deform like taffy, so the tiles are each pull-tested before each flight to ensure the best possible adhesion. Repairing in orbit would be nearly out of the question. For one thing, adhesives don't work well in space (all the volatiles freeze or evaporate instantly), and for another, the tiles are different shape, so there's no way to carry a spare for everything. The astronauts prefer that everything be gotten right on the ground! And an astronomer from california reported seeing stuff fall off while over his head. It looks like the landing gear area is the place it started. It will be interesting to see if they can figure out what actually happened, but it's clear that even if they knew there was a problem, there's nothing they could have done other than burn up. Bummer. Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
CDR: Re: Gullible Journalists
Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : John Kelsey wrote... For some reason I've never been able to fathom, many journalists seem to be remarkably gullable, when they're told something from the right kind of source, especially a government agency or other official source. The net effect is that by and large journalists have become a cheerleading squad when what is needed is a vigorous and independent critical facility. That is if we are to retain some degree of the of, by and for philosophy. Maybe nobody wants that except for a few malcontents. Chomsky (dig around on http://www.zmag.org/weluser.htm) and others have commented on this quite a bit. What it seems to boil down to is a sort of natural selection. Basically, it works like this: 1) Government is releasing some cool smart-bomb commercials, erh I mean video to a few select news sources. 2) NBC sends a questioning, smart, well-informed dude to said press conference. 3) During said smart-bomb footage notices the Arabic word for Hospital on the top of the smart-bombs target, and asks Is that a hospital? 4) Government takes NBC off list of cool insider info: Can't be trusted, not playing ball 5) NBC, now out in the cold, assigns said informed journalist to covering Ruwanda or other low-profile stuff, and assures military officials that they'll send someone a little more cooperative next time. I'm exagerating for effect here of course...there's possibly not as much conscious decision making, and supposedly this kind of list-making happens for much quieter, insider stuff (not smart bomb footage). But clearly, there's got to be SOMETHING like this happening. -TD It's not entirely one-sided and coercive. I think there is a desire on the part of most people to identify with the winning side. This may induce a similar airheaded cheerleading effect without coercion even being necessary. Simple human nature. The desire to be led. Mike
Re: Encrypted hard drive enclosure for $139
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, 712 Mbit/sec is about 90 MByte/sec, which means if it were doing 3DES, it'd probably be about 30 MByte/sec, which is no longer fast enough to be entertaining. Yes, it is. Despite the disk manufacturers' intentionally misleading spec sheets, most hard disks are not very much faster than 30 MB/s. For example, the new Barracuda V transfers between 23 and 44 MB/s, depending on where on the disk you read from. http://www.storagereview.com/benchimages/ST3120023A_str.png Even if the disk were infinitely fast, the Firewire interface is limited to 50 MB/s. I think this product would be extremely useful, if it is trustable. -- Shields.
Re: mail weirdness
At 01:41 PM 02/03/2003 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:23:58AM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: Do you mean that Steve's posts always do this to you? I've only seen one like that, and I assumed that Steve had simply Bcc:d the Cypherpunks list and some other lists on that posting. I've seen a number of posts from Steve that have the list suppressed but I don't think it was always that way, maybe the last few months? And not sure if they all do it or not. No, they don't all, so I assume it's only when he wants them to, as opposed to Bob Hettinga's practice of copying everything to his usual sets of lists, most of which don't allow replies from non-subscribers. Nope, I'm subbed to lne.com. Did you try doing a group reply on Declan's? And if he isn't on minder.net, that's even weirder. Declan's postings are usually either normal postings to cypherpunks or else posted to his politech list (most of which have Subject: FC something.) I'm subscribed to politech, so I haven't had any weirdness when replying.
Re: Touching shuttle debris may cause bad spirits
Smell that, son? Nothing else in the world smells like that I love the smell of hydrazine in the morning It smells like It's MMH that cooks your goose. Regular hydrazine (smells like fish) ain't that hypergolic with N2O5. incompetence. The press was reporting that some dozens of people went to hospitals after encountering shuttle parts, and about 8 were actually treated for something, between lung or skin problems (presumably chemical burns of some sort.) So it's not totally harmless.
A talk on Intellectual Property and National Defense
I sent this to my IP list. One of the major points I made here is that secure systems (and I am not calling Palladium a secure system) can host DRM software. So one can have secure systems in which case it will tape either law or strong market pressure to not have DRM else we can not have secure systems in which case DRM will most likely be broken endlessly. Comments? Dave Ps please excuse the inability to hear the questions from the floor, I recorded it will a small digital recorder on the podium. -- Forwarded Message From: Dave Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 03:27:06 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Orig-To: ip [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [IP] Streaming REAL Audio now available of my HCSS speech with introduction by John Seely Brown There is Real audio version of my Distinguished Lecture given at the Hawaii International Conference on System Sciences this Jan in Kona, Hawaii. The introduction was given by John Seely Brown (great intro). The title is Intellectual Property and National Security. http://www.vortex.com/rmf/djf-hicss-2003.ram PowerPoint available on request. Enjoy, Dave -- End of Forwarded Message
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RE: Tiny whiskers make huge memory storage
Sunder[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] writes [..] Yeah, yeah, yeah, lots of hype about storing terabytes and so on, not worried about that at all. The real question now is this: how effective are these nickel whiskers are recovering erased data off existing platters, or more precisely how many times do we need to overwrite a disk now to wipe the data? [...] Each time a more sensitive detector is discoverd, it's used by disk manufacturers to increase storage density. The tracks get finer, the bits and the magnetic forces they generate smaller. I expect this at least partially cancels out the advantage that a more sensitive detector gives the spy. Of course, some sensitive techniques (SQUIDs, etal) are not economic for casual use. Peter
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RE: The Statism Meme
Tim May said: Yes, I understand this is all fiction. Well, some of the scripts are based on actual events, including coerced confessions, warrantless searches, sneak and peek wiretaps, concentration camps in Cuba, etc. That so many of these popular programs have themes as I've described tells us what to expect. The statism meme is growing under hothouse conditions. ... Years ago I asked a group of Libertarians at a meeting what they would do if a particular politican, who was then running for President, won and turned everything into a bona-fide, outright statist state like Russia was at the time. They couldn't adequately answer my question; they couldn't come up with any ideas of how to deal with it, what they would do if they suddenly were faced with having to live with it. Maybe they were just being deliberately obtuse with me. But I was quite serious regarding the need to imagine being in such a situation, surrounded by ideologies and strictures of the kind which suffocate and prevent advancement, which don't recognize any need to respect individuals, and calculating what one could/would do under those circumstances. I saw a segment on TV the other day about North Korea, where a scholar was stating that the reason all those people don't rise up and protest their ill-treatment, is that they have all been brain-washed from childhood to worship their demented leader as a hero, their savior. It's incredible to believe that there would be any bright, intelligent people left there who could think about physics and science. It is these memes which acclimate, which get people used to these ideas of tolerating lower standards of living, which really are more frightening than the threats from politicans. If they do become accepted without conscious understanding of what could be wrong, if the majority feel no discomfort living under them, then this presents a greater - a huge - obstacle and danger not easily overcome. A sad, disturbing prospect to contemplate. Someone on another list remarked that it might become necessary for those in Europe to do some internet-type rescuing of the American people. H. .. Blanc
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RE: The Statism Meme
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RE: The Statism Meme
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Blanc wrote: Years ago I asked a group of Libertarians at a meeting what they would do if a particular politican, who was then running for President, won and turned everything into a bona-fide, outright statist state like Russia was at the time. They couldn't adequately answer my question; they couldn't come up with any ideas of how to deal with it, what they would do if they suddenly were faced with having to live with it. Maybe they were just being You mean no one said, I'd grab the .30-06 and head for the hills? We're not quite there yet. Since no one did it during WWII when the oppression was greater -- 200,000 internees, rationing, travel controls, bans on posession of radio equipment, conscription, etc. -- we have some time to think. DCF
Re: The Statism Meme
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Tim May wrote: I'm struck by how many of them this year treat civil liberties as gone, either as old-fashioned or as just plain ignorable. I love the frequent use of facial recognition systems on TV as well. With, of course, no mention of the fact that they don't work. DCF
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Re: The Statism Meme
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 09:25:22PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Blanc wrote: A sad, disturbing prospect to contemplate. Someone on another list remarked that it might become necessary for those in Europe to do some internet-type rescuing of the American people. H. If things get utterly intolerable, and fighting makes no sense since you're in a minority you can always emigrate. My parents did it more than twenty years ago when leaving Evil Empire; some of my best friends are expats unwilling to go back to Merkinland for political reasons. Don't count on EU, we're just as fucked, albeit with a slight delay. Problem is, where to go? I haven't the slightest desire to move to EU, Canada is looking better all the time in some respects, but there is literally no true freedom of speech/press there, and as nice as Costa Rica looks, they (or any of the South American or Meso-american countries) are not a sure safe place with the Great Satan to the north likely to impose a change of government at whim. If I had the wherewithal, building a large floating farm might be a good choice, although Satan's minions seem to no longer recognize rules of the sea, national ship registry, or anything else these days with US Navy and Coast Guard stopping ships and fishing boats all over the world and searching them. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
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Re: The Statism Meme
On Tuesday, 4 de February de 2003 21:47, you wrote: Don't count on EU, we're just as fucked, albeit with a slight delay. What about Italy? The Italians seem to be remarkably good at ignoring both the vatican as well as their government (which changes every few years and no wonder...do ANY Italians actually pay taxes?). And yet, Northern Italy has as high a standard of living as I've ever seen. You haven't seen Portugal Only the workers pay taxes... in Northern Italy they live close to Switzerland... What more can be said... A car, a suitcase and a weekend in Geneva with a numbered account. André Esteves
RE: The Statism Meme
Duncan Frissell said: You mean no one said, I'd grab the .30-06 and head for the hills? I must correct myself. It was not a Libertarian group, they were Objectivists. Not to put the Os down or start an argument about the difference, but I know that Libertarians *would have* said this, as they tend to be a bit more pragmatic. .. Blanc
RE: The Statism Meme (Roarke, not)
At 02:29 PM 2/4/03 -0800, Blanc wrote: Duncan Frissell said: You mean no one said, I'd grab the .30-06 and head for the hills? I must correct myself. It was not a Libertarian group, they were Objectivists. Not to put the Os down or start an argument about the difference, but I know that Libertarians *would have* said this, as they tend to be a bit more pragmatic. What do you mean? An Objectivist would sit right down and pen a *fine* essay. The funny thing is, from an O perspective, we're already there. Ominous parallels, baby. Frogs, vapor pressure, television. -- Universal Pictures presents Peter Pan, starring Michael Jackson as Pan, Abu Hamza al-Masri as Captain Hook, and Donald Rumsfeld as Tinkerbell
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Re: The Statism Meme
Yaaas, yaass, yyaaasss -- and what about us half-assed libertarians, us leftysized anarchistic earthfirsters, us gunslinging 2nd boys (and WTF is this .30-06 bullshit anyway, we ain't all that ancient?), and other fringe/extremeist ufo/wacko pppeeeples? I mean -- I mean -- WTF do you mean, Blanc, by signifyin' on all us folks thataway? .30-06? geez -- he'd be too old to head fer the hills anyway. On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 02:29:25PM -0800, Blanc wrote: Duncan Frissell said: You mean no one said, I'd grab the .30-06 and head for the hills? I must correct myself. It was not a Libertarian group, they were Objectivists. Not to put the Os down or start an argument about the difference, but I know that Libertarians *would have* said this, as they tend to be a bit more pragmatic. .. Blanc -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
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Re: The Statism Meme
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 06:55:26PM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: Yaaas, yaass, yyaaasss -- and what about us half-assed libertarians, us leftysized anarchistic earthfirsters, us gunslinging 2nd boys (and WTF is this .30-06 bullshit anyway, we ain't all that ancient?), and other fringe/extremeist ufo/wacko pppeeeples? I mean -- I mean -- WTF do you mean, Blanc, by signifyin' on all us folks thataway? .30-06? geez -- he'd be too old to head fer the hills anyway. Uh, I meant fer that to say, too old to head fer the hills anyhow.
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Been away from email for a while: Shuttle: Dangerous. I'd like to be in space, but... not 25-year-old tech, and not that way. If there was a Chinese spy satellite captured, might it not have had a nuclear power source, and wouldn't the debris be hot? Railways: Euro railways are better than US - but in at least the UK there is compulsory purchase, when they grab your land and pay you very little for it, in order to build them. And too much government is involved. Cars: Liquid fuel of some kind is needed. It should be liquid at room temperature. Methanol/ethanol is quite good functionally, as is biodiesel for those engines that support it, but - the problem is energy generally, and pollution from greenhouse CO2. And if you reject statism over a point that could kill all our descendants... It's an easy problem to solve tho', except the solution messes up US oil interests (but it's a big-scale project) - grow seaweed in the Pacific. There are millions of square _miles_, not acres, of near-empty ocean, and all you need is a mesh with a few (recyclable) nutrients suspended a few metres below the surface. Convert the biomass to a liquid fuel... Removes CO2 too. Not a new idea. -- Peter Fairbrother
Re: Comments from 1998 on shuttle
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Michael Motyka wrote: Seems kindof like leaving the spare tire, jack, poncho and duck boots out of your car to save weight and space. It's fine except for that one day you get a flat while it's pouring freezing rain and there's 3 or 4 inches of slush on the ground. Overconfidence? Playing the odds rather than playing it safe? Yes, they try to stack the odds in favor of safety (overly so I think), but they had quite a few tile failures that didn't end in this level of catastrophy. One more data point. Bishop, CA wasn't it? That would be maybe 1000 miles or 4-5 minutes away from the catastrophic breakup in E TX. More than enough time to realize you're beyond screwed. Yes. Ground control didn't tell them they noticed something wrong for 2 minutes. I don't know when radio blackout is, I think they had already come thru that part. But by the time the ground knew there was something wrong, it was already way too late. I'm not a fan of the space program but yup, it's a bummer. When it gets privatized, we'll have personal emergency re-entry shields instead of poncho and boots. Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
Re: mail weirdness
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 08:53:58AM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: Declan's postings are usually either normal postings to cypherpunks or else posted to his politech list (most of which have Subject: FC something.) I'm subscribed to politech, so I haven't had any weirdness when replying. Yep. I use Eudora and mutt and haven't changed my mail setup in quite a while. (For Politech, I use majordomo and have had FC: prepended since 1996 or so.) Suspect, self-defensively, that I'm not the source of any weirdness. :) -Declan
RE: The Statism Meme
Harmon Seaver said: Yaaas, yaass, yyaaasss -- and what about us half-assed libertarians, us leftysized anarchistic earthfirsters, us gunslinging 2nd boys (and WTF is this .30-06 bullshit anyway, we ain't all that ancient?), and other fringe/extremeist ufo/wacko pppeeeples? I mean -- I mean -- WTF do you mean, Blanc, by signifyin' on all us folks thataway? . It was Duncan, said this. As for half-assed libertarians, well, they're left to their own devices. But I expect you'd be twisting in the wind just the same. .. Blanc
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Re: mail weirdness
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Re: Duh, transport
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 01:56:22AM +, Peter Fairbrother wrote: Railways: Euro railways are better than US - but in at least the UK there is compulsory purchase, when they grab your land and pay you very little for it, in order to build them. And too much government is involved. Yeah, the same with highways (and airports, for that matter) here. The WI DOT is the states biggest boondogle, with prisons second. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
Transport, the near future
me again. Space transport: I like the two-stage-to-orbit solution for humans, with the booster stage piloted. The maths works well. I don't know about scramjets etc for the booster, but a few rockets would do, with an aero fuselage to take off and land. Using current airline technology mostly. Safe. Cheap. If the second stage isn't reusable as a second stage (or if eg just the engines are) that's okay too. Things like tanks are useful in orbit, hell anything, any mass, is useful there. SSTO is pride, not economics (assuming at least a low-to-medium demand). But there ain't a company anywhere that's going to put up the dosh if NASA and the US insists on being the best... Another I like is tether systems, but not yet. The low-orbit rotating tethers with hypersonic collection (the tip of a rotating tether, whose overall CoG moves at orbital speeds, collects the spacecraft-to-be at mach 10 or so in the upper atmosphere) are a bit fraught, but doable with near-modern-day tech (modern economic materials ok, but patented!). A bit further on you might have a tether that reaches the ground... so a rope falls down from space, you grab on, and it yanks you up to orbit! Yeah!!! And light gas guns for cargo, perhaps with a mag assist. A two-ton payload gas-gun would cost $4bn to $6bn to build, then about $6,000 per ton launched, excluding capital costs. Figures are mine, about 5 years old. I suspect there are those who could do better, but aren't saying. I suppose you could even put one on the Ecuadorean plains, pointing up to the mountains near Quito, and have the needed 300km runup and low-gee for passengers (if it's on the equator you can schedule shots much better, eg every 30 minutes). Personal transport: Cars are okay, but I hate driving unless it's too fast for transport purposes. Suppose we have a mix of trains and cars - even the Stephenson's Rocket trials thought of carrying personal carriages on trains. If there was power and computer control available then people's individual cars could travel on the same lines as trains, but without needing an engine - or a schedule - or a train - or a driver - or a driving lcence - ar road accidents. Great when you're pissed and just want to say Home George (as a kid we actually had a chauffeur called George Cole, but I called him Coley, not George). The macho Tim's of this world could also have fuel tanks on their cars, so thay could go where they liked (and if there was a strike, or the power failed, it wouldn't matter that much. Redundancy. Also you could get to places not on the regular network). Expensive in infrastructure terms, especially in the US. In the EU it might be better, as there are more railways already. But not cheap.
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After much procrastination I recently put the Crypto Gardening Guide and Planting Tips online at http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/crypto_guide.txt, this may be of interest to readers. From the introduction: There has been a great deal of difficulty experienced in getting research performed by cryptographers in the last decade or so (beyond basic algorithms such as SHA and AES) applied in practice. The reason for this is that cryptographers don't work on things that implementors need because it's not cool, and implementors don't use what cryptographers design because it's not useful or sufficiently aligned with real-world considerations to be practical. As a result, security standards are being created with mechanisms that have had little or no security analysis, often homebrew mechanisms or the standards editor's pet scheme. The problem is a lack of communication: Cryptographers often don't seem aware of the real-world constraints that their design will need to work within in order to be successfully deployed. The intent of this document is to cover some of those real-world constraints for cryptographers, to point out problems that their designs will run into when attempts are made to deploy them. Also included is a motivational list of extremely uncool problems that implementors have been building ad-hoc solutions for since no formal ones exist. Peter.
Re: Putting the NSA Data Overwrite Standard Legend to Death... (fwd)
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Re: Transport, the near future
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Mike Rosing wrote: Thanks Eugen, It looks like the IBM TPM chip is only a key store read/write device. It has no code space for the kind of security discussed in the TCPA. The user still controls the machine and can still monitor who reads/writes the chip (using a pci bus logger for example). There is a lot of emphasis on TPM != Palladium, and TPM != DRM. TPM can not control the machine, and for DRM to work the way RIAA wants, TPM won't meet their needs. TPM looks pretty useful as it sits for real practical security tho, so I can see why IBM wants those !='s to be loud and clear. Note while Safford downplays remote attestation in the rebuttal paper, TCPA specs include remote attestation, which seems on the face of it mostly a DRM enabling feature. So I would say that Ross Anderson, Lucky and other detractors have it right despite this attempted rebuttal. It is true that the secure boot, key storage features are largely user beneficial features. He says there is currently no CA, but it is unclear if this is the privacy CA or the endoresement CA. In any case it may just be that early revisions of the software they haven't implemented this feature yet. He also mentions no one asked for it (the privacy CA to issue certificates for use with the remote attestation feature one presumes). He says you can turn of the endorsement feature. The main features of TCPA are: - key storage - secure boot - sealing - remote attestation the first 3 are user focussed features, and the last is DRM focussed. Sealing also interacts with remote attestation, in that it frustrates software only (as opposed to hardware hacking) attempts to later by pass restrictions imposed on download with remote attestation. Palladium is more flexible and secure in what it can enforce because of the ring-1 because it offers smaller attack surface (the TOR) instead of the whole kernel and all device drivers with TCPA. Safford also argues that it's not fair to critize TCPA based on DRM friendly features because it's tech neutral and anything can be used for good and bad (whatever your point of view). However I'd argue remote attestation as designed has no really plausible non-DRM use and could easily be dropped without loss of user functionality. There are other applications for remote attestation -- for example VPN server trying to assure security of client machines. However these types of applications can still be provided in ways that are useless for DRM -- eg retaining remote attestation but allowing the user with user present test to put the device in a debug mode where the bootstrap hashes don't match what is loaded. This kind of thing would be handy for debugging anyway and does not lose user security of remote attestation if it is only configurable via user present test. TCPA doesn't provide user present test (secure path to keyboard and screen as Palladium does), but there is a TCPA bios, and presumably that could have a flag and is (one hopes!) already design to not be software changeable. Similar arguments apply to the Palladium remote attestation function. MS has also made attempts to downplay DRM centric role of Palladium.
Re: Tiny whiskers make huge memory storage
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 09:10:39AM -0500, Sunder wrote: My question is what's a reasonable order of magnitude of overwriting data now, assuming you're not trying to hide data from, say the NSA. This raises a question I've long had. ARE there actual systems for reading overwritten disk data in existance out there ? Are they in daily use or merely laboratory curiosities ? I know, of course, that there are companies that supply disk recovery services, but as far as I have ever heard they mostly work with non overwritten data on disks that have bad electronics, bad motors, bad head actuators, damaged formating, bad servo tracks, bad heads, damaged surfaces and so forth. The most I have ever heard of being routinely done is reading data off a platter with a special external head positioned by special mechanics and servo systems. And of course most of what data recovery companies do is work with disks with corrupt filesystems but largely or entirely intact information content on the platters. This includes partially erased filesystems and file systems with key information blocks that cannot be reliably read or that have been overwritten by garbage. None of this involves reading the ghosts of previous data in sectors that have been overwritten once or multiple times. So what is the actual threat ? Are there any papers describing practical production systems and proven techniques for retrieving overwritten data ? How good are they - what BERs are obtainable for what percentage of data ? Clearly a cryptographer legitimately worries about being able to infer that a particular bit a of key has a slightly greater than 50% chance of being a 1 or 0, but for most users retrieving email or documents with even one or two corrupt characters in them per page may not be very interesting even if it is possible. And good lawyer should be able to plant doubt in the minds of a jury if the data is really garbled, even if it seems incriminating. So it would seem that for most normal recovery purposes (business data recovery and evidence) any multi-layer ghost data recovery would have to be pretty good to be worth investing in. The NSA/CIA, however might be interested in anything at all under some circumstances - without those limitations. So how real is the threat - what does it cost to have it done and how expensive is the gear ? Who actually has working setups in use ? And how many layers down can they really read ? And with what BER ? -- Dave Emery N1PRE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass. PGP fingerprint = 2047/4D7B08D1 DE 6E E1 CC 1F 1D 96 E2 5D 27 BD B0 24 88 C3 18
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Re: Gullible Journalists
Tyler Durden wrote: For some reason I've never been able to fathom, many journalists seem to be remarkably gullable, when they're told something from the right kind of source, especially a government agency or other official source. Chomsky (dig around on http://www.zmag.org/weluser.htm) and others have commented on this quite a bit. If you want to hear it from the horse's mouth, I suggest you read some of Vin Suprynowicz's columns, or his book, _Send In The Waco Killers_. He's been a working journalist for decades, and so can describe first-hand how this process of co-opting journalists works.
Re: CDR: Re: Life Sentence for Medical Marijuana?
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Ken Brown wrote: Tyler Durden wrote: And then there's the PERSISTENT rumors of him actually taking an accidental DEA bust in a Florida airport after landing a fresh new cargo. Supposedly this was a bit of a snafu and they had to let him go on the hush-hush...(And I keep hearing there's video of that bust.) Oh, PERSISTENT rumours eh? So they must be true. The TRANSIENT sort are just a pack of lies. Valid point. Besides, this guy has done enough things that have been *verified*, that no mere rumor is necessary to impeach his moral standing. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: Carter's statement yesterday
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote: Thanks, I found the full text at http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/news/0203/01carter.html I must have been trying too early before, all I could find was partial quotes. The world will be awaiting Wednesday's presentation of specific evidence by Secretary of State Colin Powell concerning Iraq's possession of weapons of mass destruction. Yeah, like I would trust Colin Powell on *anything*. Remember, this is the same guy who denied that My Lai had happened, issuing a public statement that relations between the United States and the South Vietnamese are excellent. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums
On Friday 31 January 2003 12:40, Tim May wrote: On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 07:58 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: (snipped) I understand your politics is lefty...this has been shining through for years. But your analytical skills are lacking. That's redundant in the modern US. Too bad; there needs to be a counterbalance to the right-wing control freaks, but the left just isn't up to it. -- Steve FurlongComputer Condottiere Have GNU, Will Travel You don't expect governments to obey the law because of some higher moral development. You expect them to obey the law because they know that if they don't, those who aren't shot will be hanged. --Michael Shirley
Re: Say goodbye to the ISS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 9:42 PM + on 1/19/03, Malcolm Carlock wrote: I must admit it also seems very strange that the shuttle couldn't have been examined while docked to the ISS. It wasn't docked there. It was in a completely different orbit, and higher up to boot. That's why it came over the Western United States on landing, instead of over, I believe, places like Cancun and the Gulf of Mexico. It's also why people were saying they would have been SOL no matter what happened, and why, if you're conspiracy- -- and bloody- -- minded, it's easy to imagine that someone higher up in NASA figured that they were, heh, cooked, anyway, and decided to stand back and see if a miracle happened. Of course, that probably didn't happen (invoking Pournelle's Law), and, besides, if they *were* that bloody-minded, they would have left it *up* there for an eventual repair and body-recovery mission, sometime in the future. [If you don't think they wouldn't have, memorial or not, remember that two people *died* in the Columbia already, in the wrong place, the cargo bay, at the wrong time, while they were pressurizing it with nitrogen during a mock-launch rehearsal before its inaugural launch.] Flying another shuttle to them while people were still alive would have been impossible, of course, so much for a reusable space-truck on a rapid turnaround, and, even if it wasn't, I don't think they even have an airlock aboard, and, given the cost of the gold-plated one on the ISS, they probably can't afford one on the ground, either. In other words, when you fly on Uncle's Nickle, you pays the tax payer's money, and you takes your chances. Of course, if we'd actually *privatized* space (not had a single-payer HillarySpace program, which is the case now, even though most of the shuttle program is currently privatized -- in the same way that the California power market is privatized), like back in the Nixon administration sometime, when he drew a red-line through NASA's budget the first time because it was leftover Kennedy-cruft that was embarrassing him politically, and made stuff like liquid rocket fuel legal to own (wasn't it someone here, or elsewhere, who said maybe we should sue to make very-high-powered rocketry a constitutional right under second amendment? :-)), among other things, there probably would have been *50* re-entries, or maybe 100, today -- and just that many launches. Today's crash, if it had happened at all, would have been lost in the radar clutter, to be completely brutal about it, and it would have been buried in the place where articles about 7 dead marines at Quantico -- or, more likely 7 dead skiers in the Bugaboos -- go. Oh, well. Maybe China will finally collapse already and some entrepreneur in New Shanghai establish a colony in the Belt someday. Too bad I'll be too old to learn Chinese when it happens. Cheers, RAH Who gave up on any illusions of there ever being an American private space industry in his lifetime -- or any career plans in that regard - -- shortly after the Challenger blew up and a bunch of government employees cancelled *all* manned space flight indefinitely. Same shit, different decade... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBPj8insPxH8jf3ohaEQLODACcDofKm9BtBVOQdGq/lCK9Topwt/YAoOdk NDdomx/bnf0ALLWNuJc13b0p =JY// -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
Re: Shuttle Humor, Risk Estimation
On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 03:01 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote: The biggest question there is why didn't they inspect it? Seems very bizarre, since that's what they did in the past. That's what they _reported_ later that they did in the past...there certainly was no public announcement that Keyhole satellites were being tasked to look at the shuttle tiles. One might assume that they did in fact look at the tiles this time around, noted the damage, reported to Admiral Poindexter the toast conclusion, and that was that. Had the landing gone OK, we would have been hearing about how NASA had verified that little damage had occurred. Now, it's we didn't have a chance to look, but even if we had, there was nothing anyone could do, so we didn't look. (Of course, there is _much_ they could have done, including coming in at a more westerly landing site, either Edwards or White Sands. Or, with about 10 days of advance notice, Atlantis could have been ready for launch and rendezvous to take the crew off, and perhaps even to transfer fuel to let Columbia go into a higher parking orbit until repairs could be arranged.) But the ostrich was strutting and now NASA is dying. --Tim May Dogs can't conceive of a group of cats without an alpha cat. --David Honig, on the Cypherpunks list, 2001-11
Re: Shuttle Humor, Risk Estimation
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 04:28:10PM -0800, Eric Murray wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 05:01:41PM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: The biggest question there is why didn't they inspect it? Seems very bizarre, since that's what they did in the past. All the KH-71s were busy mapping Iraq's oil fields and photographing Saddam's nose hairs. Yeah, but most pilots, if they suspected an even semi-serious breach of their craft's integrity, *AND* had the ability to fairly safely send someone outside to have a looksee, wouldn't hesitate a moment before doing so. They've been delayed by weather in landing far longer than that would take. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums
That's redundant in the modern US. Too bad; there needs to be a counterbalance to the right-wing control freaks, but the left just isn't up to it. Good comment. Indeed, the only thing the Democrats seem to stand for is that they aren't republicans. Meanwhile, the economics of the 'real' left leaves them with a big fat credibility hole right in the center, so no one listens to their politics either. -TD From: Steve Furlong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:31:03 -0500 On Friday 31 January 2003 12:40, Tim May wrote: On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 07:58 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: (snipped) I understand your politics is lefty...this has been shining through for years. But your analytical skills are lacking. That's redundant in the modern US. Too bad; there needs to be a counterbalance to the right-wing control freaks, but the left just isn't up to it. -- Steve FurlongComputer Condottiere Have GNU, Will Travel You don't expect governments to obey the law because of some higher moral development. You expect them to obey the law because they know that if they don't, those who aren't shot will be hanged. --Michael Shirley _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Shuttle Humor, Risk Estimation
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 05:01:41PM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: The biggest question there is why didn't they inspect it? Seems very bizarre, since that's what they did in the past. All the KH-71s were busy mapping Iraq's oil fields and photographing Saddam's nose hairs. Eric
Re: Say goodbye to the ISS
Our messages crossed in the mail, but there's this bit here... At 7:18 PM -0800 on 2/3/03, Tim May wrote: Two crewmen were prepared to to an EVA to fix dislodged cargo/hatch doors, as on every flight to date. The other crew could have transferred in their pressure suits. Ah. Forgot about the pressure suits. Doh. Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
Re: Real Facts and Good Facts
Eric Cordian writes: In another teletext moment on CNN, the shuttle was described as traveling at Mock 18. There was an interesting article in the New York Times (http://tinyurl.com/5b4x) back in Nov 2001 about stenographers working on 9/11--that was an angle I didn't see anywhere else. When these special reports come on--and then go on and on and on--the captioners don't get a break. There are no commercials and they have to keep typing even though the talking heads get to take turns. On 9/11 it was even worse because communications in NY were so screwed up. Y'all are making a big deal about the dangerous debris. As you may have noticed, there were very few real facts to report so they kept repeating the few tidbits they had, whether they made sense or not. The danger may well be overblown, but it is just prudent of NASA to say not to touch it. There were some pretty big pieces that fell and it is plausible they are still dangerous: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/030203/170/36q9q.html http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/030203/168/36jm1.html Good article from 1980 on the boondoggle that is the space shuttle: http://washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/8004.easterbrook-fulltext.html
opportunistic encryption
Are there any reasons why current systems (whether OpenSource or not) don't ship with opportunistic IPsec out of the box? FreeS/WAN is really easy to set up, and such, but why having to do BIND juggling and extra installation steps. What are the reasons, crypto restrictions?
Re: Say goodbye to the ISS
On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 06:17 PM, R. A. Hettinga wrote: Flying another shuttle to them while people were still alive would have been impossible, of course, so much for a reusable space-truck on a rapid turnaround, and, even if it wasn't, I don't think they even have an airlock aboard Incorrect. NASA estimates that Atlantis could have been rushed to launch in 10 days. So, had they initiated the inspection early enough, time enough for a rendezvous. As for there not being an airlock aboard, this is silly. Two crewmen were prepared to to an EVA to fix dislodged cargo/hatch doors, as on every flight to date. The other crew could have transferred in their pressure suits. --Tim May
Re: Shuttle Humor, Risk Estimation
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote: Yeah, but most pilots, if they suspected an even semi-serious breach of their craft's integrity, *AND* had the ability to fairly safely send someone outside to have a looksee, wouldn't hesitate a moment before doing so. They've been delayed by weather in landing far longer than that would take. I heard this afternoon on NPR that NASA reported one of the engines was on full blast attempting to correct for high drag on the left side. Add this to the high wheel temp before sensor loss - the landing gear was down. The Columbia had just gotten the new glass cockpit, all new computers. I bet there was a bug in the code someplace that lowered the landing gear and didn't report it via normal channels. On an airplane lowering your landing gear early isn't that big a deal. But at mach 18 it's pretty serious. No way to inspect for that when your instruments don't report what your equipment is doing. I bet it's a combination of minor problems, with a bit in a rom going bad maybe. As the Major said, chalk one up for Allah. Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
