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Re: Putting the NSA Data Overwrite Standard Legend to Death... (fwd)

2003-02-10 Thread David Howe
at Monday, February 10, 2003 3:20 AM, Jim Choate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] was seen to say:
 On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Sunder wrote:
 The OS doesn't boot until you type in your passphrase, plug in your
 USB fob, etc. and allow it to read the key. Like, Duh!  You know,
 you really ought to stop smoking crack.
 Spin doctor bullshit, you're not addressing the issue which is the
 mounting of an encrypted partition -before- the OS loads (eg lilo,
 which by the way doesn't really 'mount' a partition, encrypted or
 otherwise - it just follows a vector to a boot image that gets dumped
 into ram and the cpu gets a vector to execute it - one would hope it
 was the -intended- OS or fs de-encryption algorithm). What does that
 do? Nothing (unless you're the attacker).
indeed. it usually boots a kernel image with whatever modules are
required to get the main system up and running;

 There are two and only two general applications for such an approach.
 A standard workstation which isn't used unless there is a warm body
 handy. The other being a server which one doesn't want to -reboot-
 without human intervention. Both imply that the physical site is
 -secure-, that is the weakness to all the current software solutions
 along this line.
The solution is only applicable to cold or moderately tamper-proofed
systems, to prevent analysis of such systems if confiscated. It can only
become a serious component in an overall scheme, but this is universally
true - there is no magic shield you can fit to *anything* to solve all
ills; this will add protection against the specified attacks and in fact
already exists for windows (drivecrypt pluspack) - it is just
non-windoze platforms that lack a product in this area.




Re: Putting the NSA Data Overwrite Standard Legend to Death... (fwd)

2003-02-10 Thread David Howe
at Monday, February 10, 2003 3:09 AM, Jim Choate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] was seen to say:
 On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Dave Howe wrote:
 no, lilo is. if you you can mount a pgpdisk (say) without software,
 then you are obviously much more talented than I am :)
 Bullshit. lilo isn't doing -anything- at that point without somebody
 or something (eg dongle) being present that has the -plaintext- key.
 Without the key the disk isn't doing anything. So no, lilo isn't
 mounting the partition. It -is- a tool to do the mount.
I don't understand why this concept is so difficult for you - software
*must* perform the mount; there is absolutely no way you could
personally inspect every byte from the disk and pass decrypted data to
the os at line speed yourself.  lilo is the actor here.  If you gave a
program spec to a programmer and said write this you wouldn't be able
to claim you wrote the code yourself, no matter how good or essential
the program spec was.

 As to mounting the disk without software, not a problem it could be
 done all in hardware. Though you'd still need the passphrase/dongle.
you couldn't *mount* a disk in hardware; you *could* decrypt on-the-fly
and make the physical disk look like a unencrypted one, but you would
still need non-crypto software to mount it.

 for virtual drives, the real question is at what point in the boot
 process you can mount a drive - if it is not until the os is fully
 functional, then you are unable to protect the os itself. if the
 bootstrap process can mount the drive before the os is functional,
 then you *can* protect the os.
 No you can't. If the drive is mounted before the OS is loaded you can
 put the system into a DMA state and read the disk (screw the OS)
 since it's contents are now in plaintext.
no, you can't. data from the hardware is *still* encrypted; only the
output of the driver is decrypted, and a machine no longer running
bootstrap or os is also incapable of decryption. you *could*, if good
enough, place the processor in a halt state and use DMA to modify the
code to reveal the plaintext, but it would be a major pain to do so and
would require both physical access to the machine *while powered up and
without triggering any anti-tamper switches* after the password has been
supplied. This is actually a weakness in firmware cryptodrives (as I
have seen advertised recently) - once the drive is unlocked it can
usually be swapped over to another machine and the plaintext read.

 You can also prevent the
 default OS from being loaded as well.
Indeed so, yes. however, usually that decision has to be made before the
password would be entered - so making more awkward. you *could* finangle
the bootstrap though; there must *always* be part of the code outside
the crypto envelope (but of course this can be removable media such as
the usb drive mentioned, and stored securely when not in use)

 Clue: If you own the hardware, you own the software.
indeed so. however, if that applied to machines not already running, the
police wouldn't be so upset when they find encrypted files on seized
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:03:43 GMT
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THANKS

2003-02-10 Thread Joseph Mobutu Sese-Seko
Good   Day,
 You may be suprise to receive this email since you do not know me.
I am the son of the late president of Democratic Republic Of
Zaire,President Mobutu Sese Seko, ( now The Republic Of Congo, under
the leadership of the son of Mr. Laurent Kabila ). I presume you are aware
there is a financial dispute between my family ( THE MOBUTU ) and the present 
civilian Government. This is based on what they believe as bad and
corrupt governance on my late father's part. May his soul rest in perfect
peace.As you might have heard how a lot of my father's bank account in
Switzerland and North America have been frozen.
Following the above named reasons, I am soliciting for your humble and
confidential assistance to take custody of THIRTY Million United States
Dollars ( US$30,000,000.00 ), also to front for me in the areas of
business you desire profitable.
These funds have secretly been deposited into a confidential Security
Company, where it can easily be withdrawn or paid to a recommended
beneficiary. The funds will be released to you by the Security Company,
based on my recommendations, on that note, you will be presented as my
partner who will be fronting for me  and my family in any subsequent ventures.
Myself and my mother have decided to give 20% to you if you are able to
help us claim this consignment.We have also decided to give you any money
spent on phone calls or travelling expenses in the course of this transaction 
at the end of the transaction.
Please, I need your entire support and co-operation for the success of
this transaction, your utmost confidentiality and secrecy is highly
required, due to my family's present predicament.
I sincerely will appreciate your willingness to assist us as soon as possible.
I am presently in the refugee camp here in the Netherlands under the
united nations refugee camp in Netherlands and I can be reached on
phone number +31-645-238-205 for for more information on how we can
proceed in this transaction.
Please indicate your interest by sending your telephone and fax numbers
or call me up at anytime. I sincerely will appreciate your acknowledgement
as soon as possible.
Warmest regards,
Joseph Mobutu Sese-Seko   


Attack on Union backfires.

2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
'We're Solid': Union Renewal on the Pilbara
Bradon Ellem* charts the history of the Pilbara dispute, and finds a 
revitalised grass-roots unionism challenging BHP's individual contracts 
bulldozer
On Monday 2 July, the Western Australian Industrial Relations Commission 
began to hear a union claim for a new award for iron ore workers employed 
at BHP's Pilbara operations. This, of course, is no ordinary hearing. The 
company found itself in a place it had been determined to avoid, 
confronting a collective it had tried to crush over the previous twenty months.
In 1999, BHP Iron Ore set out to break the unions on the Pilbara. On 11 
November, BHP offered the members of its Pilbara iron ore workforce a 
considerable wage increase and massive cash pay-outs on accrued 
entitlements if they would walk away from collective bargaining and sign 
individual contracts, Western Australian Workplace Agreements, officially 
know as WPAs but colloquially referred to, along with those who signed 
them, as 'woppas' (or perhaps 'whoppers'). Later, company executives would 
be quite clear about their motivation, one telling the Federal Court that 
the key aim was 'the removal of the needs to negotiate change with union 
representatives'. The existing enterprise agreement was undesirable 
precisely because it required such negotiation.

Management confidence
The management of the company was entitled to be confident about the likely 
uptake of these contracts. After all, the rest of the Pilbara had long been 
deunionised following the high profile successes of employers at Robe River 
in the 1980s and Hammersley Iron in the early 1990s. And the Pilbara itself 
is isolated and, many would say, utterly different from the rest of the 
country. The BHP sites were spatially diverse: from the mine at Newman to 
the treatment plant and shipping facilities at the coast 450 kilometres 
away at Port Hedland. As if these sorts of physical problems were not 
enough, the unions themselves were divided, engaged in increasingly bitter 
disputes with each other over coverage.
The company's management played its cards pretty well. Wage negotiations 
had been stalled for some time and it was clear that management was trying 
to edge out of collective negotiations. The company was reducing employment 
levels, introducing workplace change, cutting back on union access and 
stringing out the enterprise agreement talks. There were visits from 
American management gurus and 'hug and tug' sessions to introduce the 'new 
BHP' to the workforce.
Then came the contract offers, smartly packaged, posted to the workers' 
homes just six weeks out from Christmas. At first sight they seemed 
attractive, with huge pay-outs of sick leave and an apparent wage increase 
of up to $20 000. These agreements would run for five years and, of course, 
contained no provisions for union representation or defence.
As with other companies trying to de-unionise the workforce, BHP's devil is 
in the detail. Union members argued that once bonuses and overtime rates 
disappeared, the apparent wage increases would evaporate. Most importantly, 
terms and conditions - and changes in them - would be governed by the Staff 
Handbook, not the agreement itself. One train driver, John Radford, said 
that you didn't need to be Einstein to work out what the WPAs meant: work 
as directed, work when, where and how - and hope the company looks after 
you. Of course, the WPA did not explicitly forbid unionism - that would be 
quite illegal - but it excluded the union from any of the formal procedures 
and in fact, just about excluded the employee from any say either!
Over the Christmas holidays, as many workers went away, the company's offer 
began to bite. Workers started to drift away from the unions while new 
starts were confronted with a stark choice: 'sign the WPA or look somewhere 
else for a job'. Tensions between friends rose, community associations 
became divided, families too began to split. The children of union 
loyalists signed on to the contracts, desperate for a job. Like all 
long-running disputes, there were immense personal as well as public costs; 
workers for whom unionism was an article of faith wondered what they had 
done to 'let down' the next generation. When 45 per cent of the workforce 
signed contracts over the summer of 1999-2000, the union cause looked doomed.
Yet, after that there was little movement away from what those remaining 
were now calling 'the collective'. In April 2001 when the company made a 
further round of offers, with still more enticements to quit the union, 
there was almost no uptake. Quizzed by ACTU officers in Melbourne, Ross 
Kumeroa, one of the mining union convenors, assured them there would be no 
further losses: 'We're solid'. By the middle of this year, the trend seemed 
to have been turned right around - so much so that non-union workers from 
the other Pilbara mine sites were holding meetings to begin their own union 
revival. 

Re: The Space Shuttle's Secret Military Mission

2003-02-10 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 http://www.aci.net/kalliste/columbia_spectral.htm

I love conspiricy theory!  Take totally unrelated stuff, mix it together
and voila - instant evil!  The problem with this article is that it uses
a reference (to a really cool idea BTW) for a nuclear *rocket engine*
and then claims that this is an *actual* power supply!  It's totally
bogus dude.

But thanks for the reference to the rocket engine, I need to read that
paper!

Patience, persistence, truth,
Dr. mike





The killer application of the internet.

2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
...Sometimes people forget that the simple things often work best and get 
distracted by sophisticated and complex solutions. On the web this can be 
very much the case. In recent times there has been a sober recognition that 
email, a technology pre-dating the web by a decade, is the killer 
application of the internet...

http://workers.labor.net.au/features/200213/c_historicalfeature_mcgrath.html

We must make the world safe for
poverty
Without dependence on government.
— John Cage



Mark Shields must be happy.

2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
Ten killed as buildings collapse in Cairo
Ten people were killed and 19 injured as two apartment blocks collapsed in 
poor districts of the Egyptian capital, a government newspaper reported 
Monday.
Mark was bloviating on PBS last friday about how the PRNK was flogging 
missiles to 'the scum of the earth,Libya,Yemen,EGYPT,etc...
Mark is the 'balance' for far right puppet,David Brooks.Some fucking balance.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/
You are some sick country,but you will pay,you will pay.



RE: Forced Oaths to Pieces of Cloth

2003-02-10 Thread Trei, Peter
 Bill Frantz[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
[...]
 Unfortunately having started to question the relation between the pledge
 and the ideals of the country, I started to wonder why I was pledging to
 the flag, instead of the country.  So over the years, I have a somewhat
 edited version (removed parts in brackets):
[...]

One interesting variation  {and a suggestion of an alternative) comes from
naval diplomacy.

When there's an official US/UK naval dinner, toasts are drunk (at least on 
shore or on British ships - I think US ships are dry). The Americans
always toast the British Monarch. The Brits in return propose a toast
to the US Constitution.

While I have a lot of problem with the Pledge in any form, I think it
would be greatly improved if it were made to the Constitution, rather
than the flag.

Peter Trei




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Welcome to my hometown

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fund transfer

2003-02-10 Thread kalu ume
Dear Sir,



My name is Kalu Ume,

Presently,I work for the government of my country in West Africa.

I got your contact via the internet and felt you may be willing to pursue this with me.

This proposal may sound strange to you or probably you may even think it is a 
joke,because of lots of funny mails circulating over the internet .Well if you do,I 
really understand,but honestly my freind,I am really handicaped,because this is the 
only means available to me to cominicate to you.

Honestly ,I think you should give me a trial,I need your assistance and the deal is 
good.


The deal involves the transfer of $45million,safely into your account, and for this 
you are to receive 15% of the fund.

If you are intereted in pursuing this further please contact me via e-mail so that I 
can furnish you with the relevant detail about the origin of the fund and the 
modalities for the deal.

Please send your response to my  e-mail address.

Kalu.











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Re: Patriot II would outlaw encryption

2003-02-10 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer
 actually..noit isn't my bust.  it is yours.

 it says:

 knowingly and willfully uses
 encryption technology to conceal any incriminating
 communication relating to a federal crime that they're
 committing, or attempting to commit.

 Thus, after the fact.I can send you an ecrypted email detailing my
 crime and I won't be upping the ante another five years.

Sure you will. The ongoing conspiracy (an agreement to commit 
a felony) continues after various events. For example, if Ted 
and Alice have an ongoing implicit understanding that they will 
meet in the shed behind her house occasionally to tend the five 
marijuana plants growing there, that is an ongoing conspiracy to 
commit a federal felony. So if, a week after Ted's last visit, 
Alice sends him an encrypted email saying Come over and watch a 
video, or whatever, the prosecutor can clearly use that (if he 
can decrypt it) as 5 more years in prison, since it used 
encryption technology and concealed an incriminating 
communication (the crime being conspiracy) that they are 
commiting (ongoing). The prosecutors can get Ted's passphrase by 
granting him immunity (probably ONLY immunity from the 
encryption enhancement penalty, or best case, from that and 
conspiracy, still nailing him for the pot felony, or getting 
Alice to roll over on him for the whole deal) and forcing 
him to disclose it having eliminated his 5th amendment defenses. 
Then they have Alice for the pot felony, conspiracy, and the 5 
year encryption booster. Of course, they will simply hang all of 
this draconian punishment over her head, her attorney will say 
they can fight for $75,000 and 2 years, during which she is in 
jail, or they can plead it out and become a felon with few 
further rights of citizenship.

And if you detail a crime after the event in an encrypted 
communication, you've essentially included another person in the 
knowledge of a past crime in the expectation that such 
disclosure will remain secret from law enforcement. That is 
conspiracy to avoid prosecution and probably obstruction of 
justice. Conspiracy and obstruction are crimes, you've just used 
encryption in a federal felony, 5 year enhancement. Bye.

For arguments re: protections from forced disclosure of keys, see
http://www.rubberhose.org/current/src/doc/sergienko.html




Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-10 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 02:43:22PM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote:
 On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Declan McCullagh wrote:
 
  http://www.dailyrotten.com/source-docs/patriot2draft.html
  terrorism is at least as dangerous to the United States' national security
  as drug offenses
 
 That's a good find!  People sitting around laughing their butts off is
 really a dangerous phenomena!  Just like the killing of 3000 people!
 
 I want the drugs those guys have, there's no view of reality warped quite
 that bad I've ever seen on of my trips!
 
   Probably what they're most scared of are drugs that open the sheeple's
minds. Psychedelics expose the nakedness of the emperor and break open the most
rigid lockstep mentality. 



-- 
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CyberShamanix
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Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-10 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote:

Probably what they're most scared of are drugs that open the sheeple's
 minds. Psychedelics expose the nakedness of the emperor and break open the most
 rigid lockstep mentality.

Yup, leading robots is so much more fun than actually doing
something useful.  At least for 9 year olds anyway :-)

I'm not so sure this emperor could handle psycedelics.  Might
break the robotic connections :-)

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Is Shrub with us or the terrorists?

2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
Regardless of how one views the specifics of the Bush plan, there is wide 
agreement that its purpose is a permanent change in the tax structure and 
not the creation of jobs and growth in the near term, the economists said 
in a statement published by the Economic Policy Institute.
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CDR: Modern Day Xeno: Moore's Law Doesn't Exist

2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
Moores law may or may not exist,much like a certain chowderheads bearer 
bonds but one iron law rocks on regardless...

http://dmawww.epfl.ch/roso.mosaic/dm/murphy.html

I draw particular attention to Murphy's Military Laws
Never share a foxhole with anyone braver than you are.
No battle plan ever survives contact with the enemy.
Friendly fire ain't.
The most dangerous thing in the combat zone is an officer with a map.
The problem with taking the easy way out is that the enemy has already 
mined it.
The buddy system is essential to your survival; it gives the enemy somebody 
else to shoot at.
The further you are in advance of your own positions, the more likely your 
artillery will shoot short.
Incoming fire has the right of way.
If your advance is going well, you are walking into an ambush.
The quartermaster has only two sizes, too large and too small.
If you really need an officer in a hurry, take a nap.
The only time suppressive fire works is when it is used on abandoned 
positions.
The only thing more accurate than incoming enemy fire is incoming friendly 
fire.
There is nothing more satisfying that having someone take a shot at you, 
and miss.
Don't be conspicuous. In the combat zone, it draws fire. Out of the combat 
zone, it draws sergeants.
If your sergeant can see you, so can the enemy.



Munich,Jakarta crowds say BUCK FUSH!

2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
Domestic opposition against a possible U.S.-led war on Iraq reached new 
heights on Sunday when tens of thousands of people rallied in the capital 
in the biggest anti-Iraq war demonstration in the country.

Efforts to thwart the planned war also came from the country's leaders, 
with a number of envoys sent to various countries to seek their support 
against war.

Two separate groups marched onto the streets on Sunday, one organized by 
the Islamic-oriented Justice Party (PK) with tens of thousands of 
protesters, and the other led by the National Awakening Party (PKB) with 
hundreds of people taking part.

Many of the protesters were women wearing traditional Muslim head scarves 
and carrying babies. They marched through downtown Jakarta, waving banners 
that read, Stop War, Save Iraq, No more blood, and No Way for State 
Terrorism.

War is a crime against humanity and the international community should not 
let it happen, Justice Party's president Hidayat Nurwahid told thousands 
of protesters in front of the U.S. Embassy on Jl. Merdeka Selatan, Central 
Jakarta.

Police with riot shields were on hand near the U.S. Embassy, but the crowd 
was peaceful. The protesters dispersed shortly after midday.

On the same issue, hundreds of PKB supporters protested at the Hotel 
Indonesia traffic circle in Central Jakarta.

The protest caused only a slight hitch in the light Sunday traffic in the 
capital.

There are no reasons that can justify a war, PKB Jakarta chief Marzuki 
Usman, a former minister, told the protesters.

PKB claims to be an inclusive political party, but its base comprise 
traditional Muslims from Nahdlatul Ulama, the country's largest Muslim 
organization.

Many religious leaders, politicians and analysts have warned that a U.S. 
attack on Iraq could cause a violent backlash in Indonesia, the world's 
most populous Muslim country, especially if Washington acts without a 
formal U.N. sanction.

The United States, along with Britain, has made repeated efforts to win 
Indonesia's backing for a strike on Iraq.

U.S. Ambassador Ralph L. Boyce and British Ambassador Richard Gozney 
visited Indonesian legislators on Friday to garner support, but many voiced 
their opposition.

The government is unsympathetic towards the U.S. policy on Iraq, as are 
most legislators and Indonesians.

President Megawati Soekarnoputri has made it clear to the U.S. government 
that the United States would not get Indonesia's support in a war with Iraq.

The Indonesian government, nevertheless, promised that it would ensure the 
safety of all foreigners and their interests in the country should there be 
a backlash from Indonesians in response to Washington's possible war.

Indonesia saw daily protests across the country in 2001 when the United 
States attacked Afghanistan, accused of harboring Osama bin Laden, main 
suspect behind the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in the U.S.

Some radical groups even went to Afghanistan to help Afghans in their fight 
against the U.S. attack, while others threatened to expel Americans and 
Europeans from Indonesia.

The chairman of the country's second largest Muslim organization 
Muhammadiyah, Ahmad Syafii Maarif, called on all Indonesians, especially 
Muslims, not to resort to violent acts in expressing their opposition 
against the possible war.

We should remain calm and persistent in trying to prevent war. There is no 
need to harass foreigners here in Indonesia, Syafii was quoted by Antara 
as saying on Sunday in Yogyakarta.

He also warned that Indonesian Muslims should not go to Iraq, even if a war 
started, saying that it would only endanger the lives of the Indonesian 
people.

What we need to do, is to increase our diplomatic efforts to stop the 
war, he said.

Syafii, Cardinal Julius Darmoatmodjo and noted Muslim scholar Nurcholish 
Madjid are slated to travel to the Vatican to meet Pope John Paul II and 
ask him to help stop the war.

Meanwhile, Nahdlatul Ulama chairman Hasyim Muzadi is tasked with traveling 
to Australia to gather support from the anti-war movement there.

At the same time, the Indonesian government's envoy Ali Alatas, previously 
the foreign affairs minister, is slated to travel to the Middle East, also 
to raise diplomatic efforts and prevent a war.
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2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
VOLKEL --- A Dutch woman smashed three satellite dishes with a sledgehammer 
at a NATO airbase in the Netherlands on Sunday in protest against a 
possible U.S. attack on Iraq, a Defence Ministry spokesman said.

The woman entered the airbase at Volkel, in the south of the country, and 
destroyed the dishes before being arrested by Dutch military police.

Nobody was injured and she did not come close to any weapons, the 
spokesman said.

The Dutch branch of activist group Peace Action Camp said Barbara Smedema, 
32, had acted on its behalf to protest against a possible Iraq war and 
against nuclear weapons the group believes are housed at the base.

Barbara used a very large sledgehammer and destroyed at least three dishes 
on top of a communications bunker, Smedema's twin sister Leontine told 
Reuters.

We are trying to send a clear signal that this war against Iraq is wrong. 
We don't agree with the politics of the United States, she added.

The Defence Ministry declined to comment on whether nuclear weapons are at 
the base.
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2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
I see my auntie Edna has been pointing out your irony deficiency...pay no 
attention to the man behind THAT curtain.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2742191.stm

You want to take on the world? It's late evening in America if you do that.

Liberty is no more than an empty shell when one class of
men is allowed to condemn another to starvation without
any measures being taken against them.  equality is also
an empty shell when the rich, by exercising their economic
monopolies, have the power of life or death over other
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Re Awaiting Your Response Please

2003-02-10 Thread Barrister Danjuma Sule
Dear Sir, madam


PROVISION OF BANK ACCOUNT TO DEPOSIT FUNDS

I am Barrister Danjuma Sule, Principal Attorney to Engr. Tony Douglas A Director, 
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Capigia Mallismo.

2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
Where does this stupid,scrag get off calling Noam Chompsky 'anti-american'?
He is a fucking professor at an American University with well known links 
to the military-entertainment complex.Also if the US actually listened to 
the man it wouldn't be in this ridiculous corner its' painted itself 
into.Iran would be about to attack Iraq.
Carpigia is so fucking dumb she thinks Israel is a fucking democracy,yeah 
right,like South Africa was you ugly hairy little bitch.Are they getting 
degrees out of cornflakes packets over there? Here is a fucking academic of 
some benighted sort calling for a return of adult govt superstition.Well 
reading the entrails of a chook COULD be easier than a Capigia essay on the 
semiotics of Madonna's,'like a virgin.Carpigia certainly seems touched but 
probably not for the first time.
...I've been a longtime admirer of Condoleezza Rice...
...She's got a military mind. I love her steeliness,...
Several speakers were good, but most of them tried to drag all sorts of 
extraneous issues into it --
  ...calling Bush a moron, accusing America of imperialistic 
ambitions, No blood for oil -- all these clichés...
...I look at America in a very positive, celebratory way. So I'm reluctant 
to become part of this easy chorus of anti-Americanism.
I also don't want to do anything to undermine national morale, if we are 
indeed going to war. It's wrong to be divisive when families have parents 
or children in danger on the front lines...
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2003-02-10 Thread Eric Cordian
Mike Rosing writes:

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life of 150 years, and decays through isomeric transition.  

It looks like disinformation trawled under the nose of
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US the world's leading arms merchant sows the wind.

2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
The world's biggest arms exporter has reported record sales to developing 
countries, particularly nuclear-armed rivals Pakistan and India.
The latest Military Expenditures and Arms Transfers report, for the years 
1999 and 2000, said developing countries had increased spending by 18% to 
$245bn in the ten years to 1999.
India and Pakistan had the highest average annual growth rate of any 
region in the decade, with five percent, the State Department report said.
The US is the world's leading arms merchant, accounting for almost 65% of 
the all weapons sales in 1999, the report said.
The United States ... is likely to dominate the world arms market in the 
near future, it said.
MORE ON...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2735389.stm



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2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=235528
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The Sun also sets.

2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
http://news.com.com/2100-1001-983913.html?tag=fd_lede2_hed

Thief and depraved lunatic Scott McNeally bullshitted and bluffed and 
bought some time,time that's now rapidly running out for this deeply 
profoundly corrupt fucked company.Whit Diffies only chance to redeem 
himself is to upload as much secret files as he can before blowing the 
whistle.Sayonara SUN,it was fun.

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Reply

2003-02-10 Thread Mr. Bashir Dalhatu
FIRST BANK NIGERIA PLC,
MARINA, LAGOS, 
NIGERIA

FROM: Mr. Bashir Dalhatu
POSITION: Director, Bill  Exchange Dept.



Dear Friend,

I am MR Bashir Dalhatu, Director, Bill  Exchange Dept of the First  
Bank of Nigeria Plc, Lagos 

Nigeria. I got your contact during my personal search on people's 
profile in your country. I have urgent and very confidential business proposition 
for you.

On June 6, 1999, An American mining consultant/contractor with the 
National mining corporation, MRS ANN BARBARA MYERS made a numbered time (fixed) 
Deposit 
for twelve (12)calendar months, valued at US$31,000,000.00 (THIRTY-ONE MILLION 
USDOLLARS) in
my branch. Upon maturity, I sent a routine notification to her 
forwarding address but got no reply. After a month, we sent a reminder and finally we 
discovered from 
her contract employers, the National Mining Corporation that MRS ANN BARBARA MYERS 
died from an
automobile accident. On further investigation, I found out that she died without 
making a (WILL)and all 

attempts to trace her next of kin was fruitless. I therefore made further
investigation and discovered that MRS ANN BARBARA MYERS did not declare any kin or 
relation in her official documents, including her Bank deposit paper work in my Bank. 

This sum US$31,000,000.00 is stillsitting in my Bank and the interest is
being rolled over with the principal sum at the end of each year. 
According to our National Law, at the expiration of 5(five) years, the 
money will revert to the ownership of the bank as unclaimed bills if nobody applies to 
claim the
funds. Consequently, my proposal is that I would like you to stand in as the next of 
kin to MRS 
ANN BARBARA MYERS so that the fruits of this old woman's labour will not be 
confiscated by the 
bank officials. This is simple, I will like you to provide immediately your full name 
and address so that an Attorney will prepare the necessary documents and affidavits 
which will 
put you in place oF the next of kin. We shall employ the service of an accredited 
Attorney 
for the swearing of the affidavit of next of kin on your behalf, and obtain the 
necessary 
clearance from the Federal High Court in your favour for the transfer. 
A bank account in any part of the world which you will provide will then facilitate 
the transfer 
of this money to you as the beneficiary/next of kin. The money will be 
paid into your account for us to share in the ratio of 70% for me and 20% for you and 
10% for 
expenses.

There is no risk at all as the paper work for this transaction will be done by the 
Attorney and 
my position in the bank further guarantees the successful execution of this 
transaction. 
If you are interested, please reply immediately via E-mail. 

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that will help
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and rest assured that this transaction would be most profitable for both of us because 
I
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Awaiting your urgent reply

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Re: Trap guns, black baggers, and Arlington Road

2003-02-10 Thread Tim May
On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 12:00  PM, Eric Cordian wrote:


Tim writes:


With USAPATRIOT and HOMESEC REICHSPROTEKTION acts authorizing black 
bag
jobs, break-ins, planting of evidence, keystroke-logging,
administrative rubber-stamp warrants (no judge, just a GS-8 or higher
saying Go for it!'), it's time to revisit the issue of trap guns and
booby traps.

Coincidentally, the news this morning reports on a home invasion in 
which
a homeowner shot dead two of three members of an assault team that 
smashed
into his condo and began firing.



I hadn't seen this when I sent my piece off.

By the way, this again points to some recurring themes (discussed a few 
times before):

-- how does a property owner authenticate a person or group claiming 
to be cops? Flashing a badge is not enough, as badges for hundreds of 
jurisdictions are for sale by mail order, gun shows, and probably lots 
of other shops. (For the uninitiated, these are _actual_ badges and/or 
nearly perfect replicas...they are absolutely undistinguishable from 
real badges, so say concerned cops.)

-- how is a search warrant authenticated? In an age of laser printers, 
color printers, scanners, etc., and in an age when nobody can recognize 
the signature of the Sheriff (unlike, maybe, the situation in a small 
villlage a century ago), how does one know a search warrant is duly 
signed by a proper judge?

Hundreds of viewings of police raids in movies and television (not 
always reliable, but the common pattern is suggestive of what reality 
is) tell me that residents have no time to check credentials of cops 
carefully and have scarcely more time to look at search warrants.

There seem to be three time regimes: (actually, I've added two more...)

* Regime 3 (timescale: days) -- Lawyerly: Tim, this is Fred Jones. I 
just talked to the DA and he wants you to either arrange a time to turn 
yourself in at the station or he'll send a squad car out. I can be 
there if you want. Or the search warrant version: Tim, I've looked 
over the search warrant they'll be serving on you and everything looks 
to be in order. Don't say anything, and don't interfere. Just sit down 
and they should be out in a couple of hours.

* Regime 2 (timescale: several minutes)  -- Local cops at the door. A 
knock on the door. A cop or sheriff's deputy, often known to the target 
in various ways, arrives with an arrest warrant, search warrant, etc. 
The target has a reasonable chance to verify that the cops or deputies 
are legit.

* Regime 1 (timescale: tens of seconds to minutes) -- Bangs on the 
door. This is the police! Open up! If the target opens the door and 
the supposed cops are actually home invaders, or rival gang members, 
he's dead. Or the supposed cops may be Feds or narcs without proper 
justification. No time to carefully verify credentials.

* Regime 0 (timescale: seconds, or less) -- Flashbangs and Ninja 
Raiders. They burst through the windows, throw flashbang grenades, 
scream, stomp dogs and cats, and shoot anything that moves. The killing 
of Dr. Scott in his Malibu home is a good example (check Google for 
details). The BATF raids on many drug labs are like this.

* Regime -1 (timescale: negative time) -- Break-ins: They raid your 
house without your knowledge. They plant items, bugs, keystroke 
loggers. Obviously no chance to check credentials, a warrant, etc.

Call me old-fashioned, but I think only Regimes 2 and 3 are valid for 
most arrests and search warrants. In cases of high risk, the 
old-fashioned This is the police. Your house is surrounded. Come out 
with your hands up. is an example of Regime 1. A target inside has 
plenty of time (minutes usually) to decide that the cops are real cops 
(e.g., by seeing several police cruisers outside), and the cops have 
plenty of time to be ready for violence and not to just start shooting.

The argument in the past 30 years for S.W.A.T. Ninja-type flashbang 
through-the-skylights raids has been that some perps (or goblins, 
in Jeff Cooper-speak) will use the seconds of warning to grab their 
rifles and shotguns. Or will flush their drugs down the toilet. Or will 
kill a hostage. Or will trigger a bomb. Etc.

There are very few situations where these last arguments apply. And 
these are usually well-defined hostage or kidnappee-rescue situations.

We would mostly avoid the Regime 0 and -1 clusterfuck scenarios if law 
enforcement was primarily local. A local cop who knows his neighborhood 
is not so likely to call in S.W.A.T. raiders when dealing with people 
he knows, or at least knows of.

A big part of our problems with police raids today has been the entry 
of other jurisdictions--state troopers, DEA narcs, FBI, and, soon, 
HomeSec/Gestapo polizei.

Anyway, this is my analysis. Fairly obvious to most of us, I expect.

--Tim May



Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-10 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 06:31:56PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
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  Arguably, 9/11 was a bad trip, and now we're completely freaking out.
 

 Except that there are so few of those no one has ever been able to
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Quantify bad trips or freaking out?  I've only heard stories (and read
some too) but the first seems to refer to self reference and the latter to
non participants reference.  I would definitly say W is freaking out :-)

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RE:Trap guns, black baggers, and Arlington Road

2003-02-10 Thread Thomas Shaddack
 Black baggers generally have to get in and out quickly with incomplete
 knowledge of your situation. Doing a thorough reverse-engineer of you
 location is usually not an option for them.

Physical security. Litter the area with cameras, possibly in several
mutually independent networks. It is impossible to get physical access to
the computer without being seen. Don't forget battery backups.

A hardware keyboard logger is sometimes a friend, especially if built
right onto the motherboard.

The computer's case can be welded-shut, preventing easy access to the
disks and slowing down the adversaries.

Another measure could be a computer sniffing and logging all communication
to/from the computer over the LAN, into a circular buffer, allowing
forensic analysis of any communication that was potentially improper. This
serves as security camera guarding the network access.

Similarly, the kernel on the protected machine itself can log accesses to
certain parts of filesystems or physical block devices, and prevent
loading of modules that aren't cryptographically signed.


...of course, a shotgun as an active defensive device has its certain
appeal. However, there are usually more blackbaggers than one, and
computer aiming could be unreliable against fast-moving panicking targets,
so a nerve gas should be considered an option. (If you aren't in a killing
mood, a tear gas could do its job too. A device that would pierce a spray
can with a self-defense paralyzer, quickly dispersing it in the room,
could theoretically work nicely too.) A good area denial device could
MAYBE be a device made from teflon and magnesium strips; teflon pyrolysis
products are reportedly pretty toxic; but I am just wildly speculating
here and inviting discussion about the weak sides of my ideas.

The shotgun could also serve as a quick data destruction device; imagine
what a swarm of fast-flying steel balls can do with disk plates spinning
on 10,000 rpm. If the impact primer will be replaced with electrically
controlled one, even better - the system then has no moving parts and gets
inherently more reliable and maintenance-free. The barrel could be
improvised from a piece of a steel pipe, with a suitable length to allow
the payload from the shells to reach suitable velocity to shred the
plates, attached on the disk over its top side which is usually fairly
thin aluminum. If anyone would be willing to test the idea on some
discarded drives (*wink, Tim*) I would be happy to know the results. Would
Lead Wipe be a suitable name for this technology?




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2003-02-10 Thread Harmon Seaver
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Wing?


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the computer company's television commercials, was arrested Sunday 
while
he allegedly attempted to buy marijuana on Manhattan's lower east side.


The pundits are already using the tag line: Dude, you're getting a 
cell!

Of course, he won't do jail time. He'll get diversion and will do 
public service announcements. Dude, this is your brain on pot!

In this age of the War on (Some) Dictators and the War on (Some) Drugs, 
the persecutors have to pick their targets for maximum effect. Hence 
the impending life sentence for the Berkeley guy who committed 
thoughtcrime by writing books and articles about growing marijuana.


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2003-02-10 Thread Harmon Seaver
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Re: Trap guns, black baggers, and Arlington Road

2003-02-10 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:43:26 -0800, you wrote:
 -- how does a property owner authenticate a person or group claiming to be cops?
 Flashing a badge is not enough, as badges for hundreds of jurisdictions are for
 sale by mail order, gun shows, and probably lots of other shops. (For the
 uninitiated, these are _actual_ badges and/or nearly perfect replicas...they
 are absolutely undistinguishable from real badges, so say concerned cops.)

Apart from constitutional considerations, no-knock laws are 
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have respectable laws, and no law is respectable if it 
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the only means they have for determining whether those who seek 
to invade their habitations violently or by stealth are officers 
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Re: Dell Dude Arrested for Pot

2003-02-10 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 4:22 PM -0800 on 2/10/03, Tim May wrote:


 In this age of the War on (Some) Dictators and the War on (Some) Drugs,
 the persecutors have to pick their targets for maximum effect. Hence
 the impending life sentence for the Berkeley guy who committed
 thoughtcrime by writing books and articles about growing marijuana.

Force shits on Reason's back.
--Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack
-- 
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The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/
44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA
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How to blow 18 million dollars.

2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
The Govt just blew 18 million bucks telling us to BE ALERT! A huge mailout 
and propaganda blitz of inane admonitions and idiotic advice.More is 
planned and much will probably be sent back unopened,fridge magnet and all.
Then as PM John Howard left for Washington he mentioned that we were on 
HIGH alert.(We have a three level,non color coded system of ALERTS! )
The acting PM was then asked in Parliament what our current state of ALERT! 
was.
He replied Medium.
So much for 18 million bucks.
Oh it was,'high in places' according to the acting PM.
Places like airports presumably.



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2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
I did my patriotic best today and rang Owen down at the NATSEC 
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asked.Owen replied that he wasn't quite sure and he had to go away and 
check,he did say that he though it might be heightened and that it had been 
that way since Bali but it is best to doublecheck these things as you never 
never know.(Even the PM and acting PM were not on the same page yesterday 
as I told youse.AU is a bit of like Kylies bottom at times...medium in 
parts and High in parts.)
Owen came back in a flash with the confirmation that it was 'heightened' 
indeed and that translated as 'medium' as well and all.
I'd almost forgotten why I rang when the horrid memories flooded back.It 
was only a year ago now but it seemed like yesterday when those two 
obviously fake AFP officers claiming to be from the FBI ruined my 
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Confidentiality without Encryption.

2003-02-10 Thread professor rat

Chaffing and Winnowing
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Poor Mans Cryptome.

2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
It's getting a lot easier to start an online business these days. I've been 
doing market research and industry analysis in the IT industry for 20 years 
and I thought it might be time to branch into something different: 
biotechnology. My new company is called OmegaBio (www.omegabio.com ). I 
have been able to get it operational and do some clever things that would 
have been ridiculously expensive a decade or more ago.

First of all I needed to research my market.

I used Google and a few other search engines, and used all sorts of 
combinations of biotechnology, market research, industry analysis, 
database and so on until I had a pretty good list of the dozen or so 
companies operating in the field around the world. I was able to visit 
their websites and compare my planned products.

I got some good ideas and spotted some gaps. Before the web, that sort of 
research would have taken months.

Next I had to build my infrastructure. I had a few old PCs and laptops and 
I bought a couple more for under $1000 each. Networking PCs is now child's 
play - you just buy a cheap router and plug them all in.
I live outside town and I'm too far from the exchange for ADSL, but Telstra 
and a few others provide two-way satellite. I used an old PC for a proxy 
server and all my networked machines now have a permanent high-speed 
internet connection.

The next step was staffing. I put a job ad on the website of my local 
university and I got dozens of responses within a few days.

Then I had to build my products. The great thing about the information 
industry is that you don't actually have to make anything - you just 
harvest available information, repackage it and add value to it. I got my 
students to work on the net getting all the information I needed to build 
my first few products.

I needed to build a database of every organisation involved in Australia's 
biotech industry. Again, dead simple. Everybody I want to know about has a 
website and there's sufficient information there to build up a decent database.

The net is a notably anarchic place but you can write little software 
routines (one of my students is a whiz at this sort of thing) that go to 
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I needed some publishing software, and some web design software, and some 
security software. Easy: do a search, find something suitable, pay a little 
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Censure Motion Moved against Howard's brown COW.

2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
Move to censure PM in parliament
February 11 2003

Federal Opposition Leader Simon Crean moved to censure Prime Minister John 
Howard and Acting Prime Minister John Anderson for breach of trust of the 
Australian people over the Iraq issue.

Mr Crean told the parliament that Mr Howard and Mr Anderson had not told 
the Australian public the truth.

The government has signed up to a coalition of the willing despite the 
Prime Minister and Acting Prime Minister's assurances to the parliament 
that this is not the case, he said.

US President George W Bush today said he considered Australia to be part of 
his coalition of the willing in his efforts to disarm Iraq.

But Mr Howard told journalists in Washington that comments by Mr Bush did 
not alter Australia's stand that it had made no commitment to join a war on 
Iraq.
Mr Howard and Mr Bush met for 40 minutes at the White House and then 
continued to discuss the Iraqi crisis over dinner.

Mr Crean said comments from Mr Bush today had given the game up for the 
prime minister.

Three words today from the US president gave up the game up for John 
Howard, he said.

Asked directly if he considered Australia part of the coalition of the 
willing Mr Bush said: Yes I do.

What that means is up to John, Mr Bush said.

Mr Crean told the parliament it was a different response to that given by 
government leaders to the Australian public.

Whenever they've been asked that question, their response has been the 
same that no decision has been taken, he said.

Today in those three simple words the US government has nailed the deceit 
of this government.

(It has) nailed the deceit of the prime minister, of our involvement and 
what the prime minister has effectively committed ourselves to in a war on 
Iraq.

http://theage.com.au/articles/2003/02/11/1044927585064.html

(COW? coalition of the willing.)



Fat Cats.

2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
Digital no dilemma for Alston
Good reception isn't a problem for Senator Alston - he received a free, 
deluxe, plasma-screen model at home courtesy of Telstra.

 $16,000 spent on dinner set
Political perks Vote now

Should politicians accept free gifts?
Yes - 9%

No - 72%

Give them back - 16%

Don't know - 0%
http://theage.com.au/articles/2003/02/10/1044725734964.html



I can see cleary now.

2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
Phill took deeply corrupt labor party hack,bob hawkes seat as an independent.

The problem with defending America's 'cause'
February 11 2003
If Saddam is a criminal, then so too was Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson and 
Queen Victoria, writes Phil Cleary.


Pamela Bone, in her column Losing patience with the left last Saturday, 
only confirms how tough it has become to defend America's war plans. Even 
Robert Manne, who could hardly be accused of being from the left, accepts, 
in his column yesterday, that the democratic-humanitarian argument for 
war in Iraq is flawed. Contrary to Bone's assertions, the left's opposition 
to the proposed US war on Iraq has nothing to do with cultural relativism.

In recent times Bone has unearthed some barbaric acts of terror against 
women in fundamentalist Muslim countries and has quite reasonably asked 
whether cultural relativism had been behind the West's refusal to act 
against these governments. And although Saddam Hussein doesn't qualify as 
fanatically Muslim, she can still find an outrage - the alleged public 
beheading of two prostitutes in Iraq - to tug at our heart. Such acts 
should be condemned. But if true, should they help persuade the left to 
support the invasion of Iraq?

If the answer is yes, how do we defend our own legal and political system's 
acquiescence in the family violence now being unearthed in Australia? A 
society doesn't have to behead prostitutes or engage in genital mutilation 
to be a partner in terror against women. Ask the battered women who flee to 
dehumanising refuges or experience humiliation in our criminal justice 
system whether they know terror. Sadly, I hear so many stories that I'm 
past the it only happens in Muslim countries mantra.

If our record on family violence hasn't been bad enough, how do we explain 
the murder and dispossession of indigenous Australians and the stealing of 
their children - something close to Manne's heart - by the state?

I'm no cultural relativist. I'm just conscious of how easy it is to be well 
meaning yet unwittingly practising a mixture of cultural imperialism and 
hypocrisy. And we shouldn't forget that the most vociferous proponents of 
military intervention to free Iraqis from Saddam's terror are often the 
same people who demand that refugees from Iraq should be treated like 
criminals and sent to barbed-wire zoos in the Australian desert.
On the road to democracy, Britain and America were guilty of some of the 
worst crimes against humanity. British government complicity in the Irish 
famine, the grinding poverty and social dislocation of industrialism and 
convict transportation, and barbaric public execution don't belong in 
Britain's dark ages. The slaughter of the American Indian, the enslavement 
and murder of black Americans, the blood-soaked Civil War that brought 
about the union, and the napalming of Vietnamese villages are part of 
America's recent history. Yet the kings and queens and presidents who 
presided over these epochs are treated as heroes in the history books. If, 
as Bone argues, Saddam should be put before the International Criminal 
Court, should presidents Richard Nixon and Lyndon Johnson, and Queen 
Victoria's ancestors, be dealt with posthumously to show we are not hypocrites?

Do the defenders of war think Nelson Mandela was missing the point when he 
told the world that George Bush couldn't think straight and this war was 
about oil? Was Mandela being a cultural relativist when he asked why no 
one condemned Israel for having nuclear weapons?

Bone provides us with an answer when she says criminal states cannot be 
allowed to have weapons of mass destruction. It's right for Israel, the US 
and Britain to stockpile nuclear weapons, but we can't let those Arabs 
follow suit. Is it any wonder Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad 
likens us to a Western sheriff and Muslims generally believe we are racist? 
Racists could never be accused of cultural relativity.

A war against Iraq won't liberate the people of Iraq or stem the potential 
for terror. And imposing a puppet government won't lead to an improvement 
of human rights or end the jarring infant mortality that cripples Iraq. 
Instead, it will reinforce the view in the Arabic world that Western 
governments are blind to the fabric of their life, but cunning and 
mercenary where their own economic interests are concerned.

The responsibility for regime change in Iraq - as it was when Americans 
embarked on their War of Independence against England, and when Oliver 
Cromwell began the struggle that culminated centuries later in English 
Chartism and the vote - belongs with the sovereign people, not some 
imperial power.

The political arguments aside, I wouldn't follow George Bush into the park 
to play ball let alone into the Gulf to play war. I'd rather sit and listen 
to Nelson Mandela.

Phil Cleary is an author and former independent federal MP. 
www.philcleary.com.au


Bingo! Why Bearer-Settled Recursive Auction Markets will work (was re:[NEC] 2.3: Power Laws, Weblogs, and Inequality)

2003-02-10 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Remember Eric Hughes' institutionalized digital piracy market, and,
before him, the Agoric guys, and their Digital Silk Road stuff?

Remember what I said about how, in such a market, the people who made
the *new* stuff first would make the most money, about the first copy
being the most valuable?

Read this, and then go look at the charts on the web. It's important.

Now, think about a bearer-settled cash auction of the first copies of
new content into a napster-like network.

Remember that each cryptographically-authenticated (I dislike the
word signed, I agree with Perry Metzger and Carl Ellison;
signature doesn't mean what it says) copy is fungible. It's the
same as any other. Thus,  the market, like all commodity markets, is
operating, in an economic terms of art, under perfect competition.


I'd always thought that the price curve in hops from the original
source and, in time from a given product's introduction to the net,
would look like power curves, or maybe a gamma distribution, but, in
Clay's article below, here's proof, or at least as much proof as
we're going to get until we actually do it.

I expect that the propagation rates of these markets are going to be
*very* fast, which follows from the speed with which information
flows through the net. Seen in three dimensions, with the charts laid
on top of each other we get something that looks like what happens
after a water drop hits a smooth pond.


This idea of recursive auction markets across a geodesic network is,
for the most part, a fundamental indictment of the very economic
efficacy of copyright on a geodesic network. In getting what people
want for what they're most willing to pay for it, for the lowest cost
of production and distribution, this kind of market will make more
money, faster, for the *producers* of content, and will adequately
compensate the *distributors* of content (people who continually
resell their copies to the highest bidders, of course :-)), while, at
the same time, not requiring monitoring the entire system by a single
entity.

Like Gilmore said about censorship, if there's cash and an auction
mechanism, the network will finally see copyright as damage and route
around it.

Cheers,
RAH

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NEC @ Shirky.com, a mailing list about Networks, Economics, and
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   Published periodically / # 2.3 / February 8, 2003
Licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution License
   Subscribe at http://shirky.com/nec.html

In this issue:

 - Introduction
 - Essay: Power Laws, Weblogs, and Inequality
(Also at http://www.shirky.com/writings/powerlaw_weblog.html)
 - Reader feedback on The Big Flip: I was wrong
 - The O'Reilly Emerging Technology Conference

* Introduction
===

This issue's essay is on the inevitability of power laws in social
systems, and in particular in the weblog world. I have lived through
a decade of seeing social systems on the internet start small and
egalitarian and grow large and unequal, and every time it has
happened, some of the users of the system have taken it upon
themselves to complain that the the Old Guard had gotten cliquish, or
that the newbies were not living up to what was expected of them, or
[insert psychological explanation here.]

These explanations, focussed as they were on individual behaviors,
never seemed to me to be adequate to describe what was obviously
structural change that happened to all kinds of systems. Recently,
work by Barabasi, Huberman, and Watts have all pointed to ways in
which power law distributions, where the rank of the Nth item is
1/Nth that of the first item, arise in social systems. The structural
inevitability of power laws explain these kinds of inequalities in
social systems far better than any explanation focussed on the
actions of individual members of the system.

One note: the essay includes three figures, accompanying this mail as
attachments, but it may be easier to read on the web, at
http://www.shirky.com/writings/powerlaw_weblog.html.

Also, because inbound spam to the list is now so extreme, I have a
choice between working from home enlarging my genitals with HGH while
waiting for my check from Nigeria to clear, or auto-flushing inbound
mail. Much to the disappointment of Madame Abacha, I am taking the
latter course of action, so if you have a response to something you
read here, please respond to me directly, at clay at shirky dot com.

- -clay

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Re: Putting the NSA Data Overwrite Standard Legend to Death...(fwd)

2003-02-10 Thread Sunder
No shit Sherlock, that's the whole point!  The OS doesn't boot until you
type in your passphrase, plug in your USB fob, etc. and allow it to read
the key.  Like, Duh!  You know, you really ought to stop smoking crack.

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  \|/  :and didn't stop 9-11|share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\
--*--:Instead of rewarding|monitor, or under your keyboard, you   \/|\/
  /|\  :their failures, we  |don't email them, or put them on a web  \|/
 + v + :should get refunds! |site, and you must change them very often.
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On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Jim Choate wrote:

 On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Sunder wrote:
 
  At least with a unixish OS you can mount your crypto file systems up at
  boot time before the OS really starts up (before the system goes to
  multi-user mode for example (at the end of /etc/rc1.d and before the
  rc2.d init starts.)
 
 Which is a blind path since those files -must- be unencrypted and if they
 do mount the disk they have to have access to the key to unencrypt the fs
 hence you're in the same boat as with Winblows.




Re: Putting the NSA Data Overwrite Standard Legend to Death... (fwd)

2003-02-10 Thread David Howe
at Monday, February 10, 2003 3:09 AM, Jim Choate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] was seen to say:
 On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Dave Howe wrote:
 no, lilo is. if you you can mount a pgpdisk (say) without software,
 then you are obviously much more talented than I am :)
 Bullshit. lilo isn't doing -anything- at that point without somebody
 or something (eg dongle) being present that has the -plaintext- key.
 Without the key the disk isn't doing anything. So no, lilo isn't
 mounting the partition. It -is- a tool to do the mount.
I don't understand why this concept is so difficult for you - software
*must* perform the mount; there is absolutely no way you could
personally inspect every byte from the disk and pass decrypted data to
the os at line speed yourself.  lilo is the actor here.  If you gave a
program spec to a programmer and said write this you wouldn't be able
to claim you wrote the code yourself, no matter how good or essential
the program spec was.

 As to mounting the disk without software, not a problem it could be
 done all in hardware. Though you'd still need the passphrase/dongle.
you couldn't *mount* a disk in hardware; you *could* decrypt on-the-fly
and make the physical disk look like a unencrypted one, but you would
still need non-crypto software to mount it.

 for virtual drives, the real question is at what point in the boot
 process you can mount a drive - if it is not until the os is fully
 functional, then you are unable to protect the os itself. if the
 bootstrap process can mount the drive before the os is functional,
 then you *can* protect the os.
 No you can't. If the drive is mounted before the OS is loaded you can
 put the system into a DMA state and read the disk (screw the OS)
 since it's contents are now in plaintext.
no, you can't. data from the hardware is *still* encrypted; only the
output of the driver is decrypted, and a machine no longer running
bootstrap or os is also incapable of decryption. you *could*, if good
enough, place the processor in a halt state and use DMA to modify the
code to reveal the plaintext, but it would be a major pain to do so and
would require both physical access to the machine *while powered up and
without triggering any anti-tamper switches* after the password has been
supplied. This is actually a weakness in firmware cryptodrives (as I
have seen advertised recently) - once the drive is unlocked it can
usually be swapped over to another machine and the plaintext read.

 You can also prevent the
 default OS from being loaded as well.
Indeed so, yes. however, usually that decision has to be made before the
password would be entered - so making more awkward. you *could* finangle
the bootstrap though; there must *always* be part of the code outside
the crypto envelope (but of course this can be removable media such as
the usb drive mentioned, and stored securely when not in use)

 Clue: If you own the hardware, you own the software.
indeed so. however, if that applied to machines not already running, the
police wouldn't be so upset when they find encrypted files on seized
hardware.




Re: Putting the NSA Data Overwrite Standard Legend to Death... (fwd)

2003-02-10 Thread Jim Choate

On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Dave Howe wrote:

 no, lilo is. if you you can mount a pgpdisk (say) without software, then you
 are obviously much more talented than I am :)

Bullshit. lilo isn't doing -anything- at that point without somebody or
something (eg dongle) being present that has the -plaintext- key. Without
the key the disk isn't doing anything. So no, lilo isn't mounting the
partition. It -is- a tool to do the mount.

Subtle but important distinction.

As to mounting the disk without software, not a problem it could be done all
in hardware. Though you'd still need the passphrase/dongle.

 for virtual drives, the real question is at what point in the boot process
 you can mount a drive - if it is not until the os is fully functional, then
 you are unable to protect the os itself. if the bootstrap process can mount
 the drive before the os is functional, then you *can* protect the os.

No you can't. If the drive is mounted before the OS is loaded you can put
the system into a DMA state and read the disk (screw the OS) since it's
contents are now in plaintext. You can also prevent the default OS from
being loaded as well.

Clue: If you own the hardware, you own the software.


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Re: DOJ quietly drafts USA Patriot II w/crypto-in-a-crime penalty

2003-02-10 Thread Bill Stewart
At 02:13 PM 02/09/2003 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:

On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:36:35PM -0500, Greg Newby wrote:
 Under the new law, running shoes will be classified
 as burgler's tools if their use is not authorized or
 exceeds reasonable levels for leisure activity.

I always thought that breathing during the commission of a crime should
result in an extra five to ten years in prison.


And breathing _heavily_ gets you even more




Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-10 Thread Sunder
My new favorite is how Rumsfeld just said that the Europe Delay to give
the inspectors more time will INCREASE the chance of war  Uh huh...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,78003,00.html

My, my, how the reptiles have evolved the ability to speak out both sides
of their mouth... or more aptly put out of another orifice better fitted
to the application of toilet paper.


--Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos---
 + ^ + :NSA got $20Bil/year |Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\
  \|/  :and didn't stop 9-11|share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\
--*--:Instead of rewarding|monitor, or under your keyboard, you   \/|\/
  /|\  :their failures, we  |don't email them, or put them on a web  \|/
 + v + :should get refunds! |site, and you must change them very often.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net 

On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Declan McCullagh wrote:

 http://www.dailyrotten.com/source-docs/patriot2draft.html
 terrorism is at least as dangerous to the United States' national security 
 as drug offenses




Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-10 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote:

Probably what they're most scared of are drugs that open the sheeple's
 minds. Psychedelics expose the nakedness of the emperor and break open the most
 rigid lockstep mentality.

Yup, leading robots is so much more fun than actually doing
something useful.  At least for 9 year olds anyway :-)

I'm not so sure this emperor could handle psycedelics.  Might
break the robotic connections :-)

Patience, persistence, truth,
Dr. mike




Re: Patriot II would outlaw encryption

2003-02-10 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer
 actually..noit isn't my bust.  it is yours.

 it says:

 knowingly and willfully uses
 encryption technology to conceal any incriminating
 communication relating to a federal crime that they're
 committing, or attempting to commit.

 Thus, after the fact.I can send you an ecrypted email detailing my
 crime and I won't be upping the ante another five years.

Sure you will. The ongoing conspiracy (an agreement to commit 
a felony) continues after various events. For example, if Ted 
and Alice have an ongoing implicit understanding that they will 
meet in the shed behind her house occasionally to tend the five 
marijuana plants growing there, that is an ongoing conspiracy to 
commit a federal felony. So if, a week after Ted's last visit, 
Alice sends him an encrypted email saying Come over and watch a 
video, or whatever, the prosecutor can clearly use that (if he 
can decrypt it) as 5 more years in prison, since it used 
encryption technology and concealed an incriminating 
communication (the crime being conspiracy) that they are 
commiting (ongoing). The prosecutors can get Ted's passphrase by 
granting him immunity (probably ONLY immunity from the 
encryption enhancement penalty, or best case, from that and 
conspiracy, still nailing him for the pot felony, or getting 
Alice to roll over on him for the whole deal) and forcing 
him to disclose it having eliminated his 5th amendment defenses. 
Then they have Alice for the pot felony, conspiracy, and the 5 
year encryption booster. Of course, they will simply hang all of 
this draconian punishment over her head, her attorney will say 
they can fight for $75,000 and 2 years, during which she is in 
jail, or they can plead it out and become a felon with few 
further rights of citizenship.

And if you detail a crime after the event in an encrypted 
communication, you've essentially included another person in the 
knowledge of a past crime in the expectation that such 
disclosure will remain secret from law enforcement. That is 
conspiracy to avoid prosecution and probably obstruction of 
justice. Conspiracy and obstruction are crimes, you've just used 
encryption in a federal felony, 5 year enhancement. Bye.

For arguments re: protections from forced disclosure of keys, see
http://www.rubberhose.org/current/src/doc/sergienko.html




Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-10 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 02:43:22PM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote:
 On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Declan McCullagh wrote:
 
  http://www.dailyrotten.com/source-docs/patriot2draft.html
  terrorism is at least as dangerous to the United States' national security
  as drug offenses
 
 That's a good find!  People sitting around laughing their butts off is
 really a dangerous phenomena!  Just like the killing of 3000 people!
 
 I want the drugs those guys have, there's no view of reality warped quite
 that bad I've ever seen on of my trips!
 
   Probably what they're most scared of are drugs that open the sheeple's
minds. Psychedelics expose the nakedness of the emperor and break open the most
rigid lockstep mentality. 



-- 
Harmon Seaver   
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com




RE: Forced Oaths to Pieces of Cloth

2003-02-10 Thread Trei, Peter
 Bill Frantz[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
[...]
 Unfortunately having started to question the relation between the pledge
 and the ideals of the country, I started to wonder why I was pledging to
 the flag, instead of the country.  So over the years, I have a somewhat
 edited version (removed parts in brackets):
[...]

One interesting variation  {and a suggestion of an alternative) comes from
naval diplomacy.

When there's an official US/UK naval dinner, toasts are drunk (at least on 
shore or on British ships - I think US ships are dry). The Americans
always toast the British Monarch. The Brits in return propose a toast
to the US Constitution.

While I have a lot of problem with the Pledge in any form, I think it
would be greatly improved if it were made to the Constitution, rather
than the flag.

Peter Trei




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