Interesting case?
Interesting looking case coming up soon - an employee (whose motives are probably dubious, but still :) installed a keyghost onto his boss' pc and was charged with unauthorised wire tapping. That isn't the interesting bit. the interesting bit is this is IIRC exactly how the FBI obtained Scarfo's PGP password, waybackwhen - *without* a wiretap warrant. http://www.out-law.com/php/page.php?page_id=keystrokeloggerhit1080217420 be interesting if his lawyer decided to call an FBI expert to explain why this device isn't wiretapping, wouldn't it? :)
Re: Anonymizer employees need killing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 1:01 AM -0600 3/28/04, bgt wrote: you state openly in your policy that you're not to be trusted! Think about it for a second. Anonymizer is set up to prevent *businesses*, stalkers, and small-time crooks like spammers, from seeing your behavior on the net and annoying you there. What's he going to do when uncle Fed shows up with guns? Have a shootout or something? :-) The point to cypherpunks as always been this, folks: Do not rely on *people*, especially people and *laws*, to protect your anonymity from, if you will, national technical means -- guys with guns and rubber hoses. That's what remailers are for, speaking of Lance, the guy who wrote Mixmaster. *Use* them. Build them. Make 'em better. And, if you're upset that you can't *surf* anonymously, sure as hell don't blame Lance. Blame the state of *markets* for such onion-routing services as Zero Knowledge's Freedom, or, even, the lack of interest in the open source community to build an equivalent. Meaning *buy* stuff when it comes on the market, and *use* someone's code when it shows up on sourceforge, or wherever, report bugs, and help *out*, instead of pissing and moaning that a single-hop anonymity service doesn't provide perfect anonymity against national technical means. More important, if you, personally, can do something about it, write code. If not, *hire* someone to write code. And, if you can't do *that*, then quit whining at the people who are actually *doing* something, anything, however small it is, in the right direction. Like Lance. Especially Lance. Certainly, if something you do pisses off the Uncle Fed, he's got the muscle to kick your ass. Live with it. Work around it. Use what's there to keep from getting your ass kicked. Progress is about doing something that hasn't been done before so that you have the *freedom* to do what you want. For example, Julf provided a single-stop remailer with penet. Some church subpoenaed him out of business. Fine. Do something else. Just don't sit there and whine about it. These days, there are *more* and better remailers out there (thanks to people like Lance) than a single hop one in Finland. Could it be better? Sure. So make it better instead of whining about it. And, finally, one last thing. After 5 or 6 years of it from Tim, who started this list, and the original physical meetings, it's no secret I've gotten really tired of the need killing chest-puffing bullshit. Tim was bad enough, but, at least -- and in ever-decreasing usefulness -- he had something substantive to say. Self-reference is a bitch, :-), but people who say other people need killing need killing themselves, and, frankly, deserve everything they get for saying so in otherwise civil discourse. Unpopular opinion is one thing, but bad manners is a mortal offense in my opinion. :-). So, try to act like adults, people. Not like a bunch of 12 year old boys who just found a loaded BAR in the garage. Cheers, RAH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBQGbpFMPxH8jf3ohaEQI2tQCg6ruUCCQ/q15O9Ps75ldDTB9tTWgAn1DD TmCabJz2jSjv7noQeaT0Ncb+ =mX/0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
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Re: Anonymizer employees need killing
On Mar 28, 2004, at 9:05, R. A. Hettinga wrote: Anonymizer is set up to prevent *businesses*, stalkers, and small-time crooks like spammers, from seeing your behavior on the net and annoying you there. What's he going to do when uncle Fed shows up with guns? Have a shootout or something? This is exactly my point. You and I are saying essentially the same things. Anonymizer cannot be trusted with your life liberty. It is the equivalent of kid sister cryptography. Lance, however, does not seem to view it this way. And, if you're upset that you can't *surf* anonymously, sure as hell don't blame Lance. What I'm blaming Lance for is snake-oil marketing. When someone posted Anonymizer revealed the identity of a customer to the FBI, Lance posted Anonymizer would never do such a thing. But *of course* he would, because there's a metaphorical (if not real) gun pointed at his head. I'm not pissing and moaning that a single-hop anonymity service doesn't provide perfect anonymity, I'm calling Lance and Anonymizer on their false claims. Lance and Anonymizer should both be upfront and honest about exactly what level of anonymity Anonymizer /can/ provide. Then I would not have anything to say on this thread. I agree, the service is certainly useful for some things, and the world is better with it than without it. And, finally, one last thing. After 5 or 6 years of it from Tim, who started this list, and the original physical meetings, it's no secret I've gotten really tired of the need killing chest-puffing *I* did not say anyone needed killing, so I'm assuming this part of your rant was targeted at someone else. --bgt
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Re: Anonymizer employees need killing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 1:53 PM -0600 3/28/04, bgt wrote: What I'm blaming Lance for is snake-oil marketing. Don't be a putz. He's marketing it for what it is. Lance has never made any claims of perfect anonymity. And, finally, one last thing. After 5 or 6 years of it from Tim, who started this list, and the original physical meetings, it's no secret I've gotten really tired of the need killing chest-puffing *I* did not say anyone needed killing, No, I was talking about the original post in this thread, and its resultant title. After watching you blather on, here, though, I'm beginning to regret what *I* said on the matter. :-). In the meantime, try to pry your panties out of the crack in your ass. Cheers, RAH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBQGdc68PxH8jf3ohaEQIwsgCeISV5A+amlSjXGtkAtpFN3Uei3zIAoJj0 YKsGDGoO3pX9qPAjHR/qtprk =TmHg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
RE: Mobile Wifi Backpack (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)
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RE: Sttop Spreading Hatred
OK, I keep getting this shit. Right now, I can't tell if it's anti-agit-prop or simply a well-intentioned but idiotic muslim chick (something about the wording made me assume this was a female). Listen up. Cypherpunks is a cryptography list, and al-qaeda.net is a node. The subscribers to this list may or may not sympathize with the activites of the Real al-qaeda. The name al-qaeda is, I suspect, more or less tongue-in-cheek, and at the least (or perhaps the most) a head-nod at some of the gripes that real organization has with the US government, and those that continue to support it's activites abroad. However, there does not appear to be any regular posters to this list that are involved with al-qaeda the terror network. (Actually, if there are, it would be interesting to hear from them via the remailers.) Cypherpunks is an extremely diverse group of indivduals, that do not appear to agree on a great many number of things. What binds us together (if anything) is the interest in cryptographic techniques that would appear to offer the capability of secure communications, with communications meaning any kind of transaction that can be transmitted by data over electronic or optoelectronic networks. Another thing that seems to bind us (and again bind is probably a poor choice of words) is an extreme tolerance to opinions very different from that of any one subscriber. Therefore please get a fuckin' clue. If you want to discuss the role of Radical Islam in contemporary world politics, I'm sure there are those that would be interested in doing so. Otherwise, please fuck off. Sincerely, Tyler S. Durden From: SSAR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sttop Spreading Hatred Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:01:59 +0500 Subject: Stop Spreading Hatred I think being a Muslim you are not working for peace. You are misguided, mistaken and spreading hatred through disinformation and false accusations, which is resulting in death and miseries for number of innocent people living around the world at the hands of merciless KILLER MUSLIMS and also bringing bad name to MOHAMMED as Founder Of Islam. To save Islam from total extinction, please work for peace and reconciliation and prove to the WORLD through your deeds that MOHAMMED teaches love peace and not Cruelty, Inhumanity and Hatred Killing of the innocent civilians. S.A.R _ All the action. All the drama. Get NCAA hoops coverage at MSN Sports by ESPN. http://msn.espn.go.com/index.html?partnersite=espn
Re: Sttop Spreading Hatred
Ahh, I was wondering why I got that message -- it didn't seem to have anything to do with any list, forgot about the al-queda node. So they must be spamming everyone whose posted with that crap. On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 08:54:12PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: OK, I keep getting this shit. Right now, I can't tell if it's anti-agit-prop or simply a well-intentioned but idiotic muslim chick (something about the wording made me assume this was a female). Listen up. Cypherpunks is a cryptography list, and al-qaeda.net is a node. The subscribers to this list may or may not sympathize with the activites of the Real al-qaeda. The name al-qaeda is, I suspect, more or less tongue-in-cheek, and at the least (or perhaps the most) a head-nod at some of the gripes that real organization has with the US government, and those that continue to support it's activites abroad. However, there does not appear to be any regular posters to this list that are involved with al-qaeda the terror network. (Actually, if there are, it would be interesting to hear from them via the remailers.) Cypherpunks is an extremely diverse group of indivduals, that do not appear to agree on a great many number of things. What binds us together (if anything) is the interest in cryptographic techniques that would appear to offer the capability of secure communications, with communications meaning any kind of transaction that can be transmitted by data over electronic or optoelectronic networks. Another thing that seems to bind us (and again bind is probably a poor choice of words) is an extreme tolerance to opinions very different from that of any one subscriber. Therefore please get a fuckin' clue. If you want to discuss the role of Radical Islam in contemporary world politics, I'm sure there are those that would be interested in doing so. Otherwise, please fuck off. Sincerely, Tyler S. Durden From: SSAR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sttop Spreading Hatred Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:01:59 +0500 Subject: Stop Spreading Hatred I think being a Muslim you are not working for peace. You are misguided, mistaken and spreading hatred through disinformation and false accusations, which is resulting in death and miseries for number of innocent people living around the world at the hands of merciless KILLER MUSLIMS and also bringing bad name to MOHAMMED as Founder Of Islam. To save Islam from total extinction, please work for peace and reconciliation and prove to the WORLD through your deeds that MOHAMMED teaches love peace and not Cruelty, Inhumanity and Hatred Killing of the innocent civilians. S.A.R _ All the action. All the drama. Get NCAA hoops coverage at MSN Sports by ESPN. http://msn.espn.go.com/index.html?partnersite=espn -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
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Re: Liquid Natural Flatulence
At 06:44 PM 3/27/04 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: And, remember again, you have to *enclose* a burning gas to make it explosive first place. Bob, stick with obfuscated economics and playing with boats. Many gases are explosive in certain ratios to air. Gasoline vapor, acetylene, in a wide range of ratios to air. Others have narrower ranges. But within these ranges you don't need enclosures. Except maybe for shrapnel. You don't need enclosures for explosive gas mixtures any more than you need an enclosure to get a boom from nitro. (This is the diff between a brisant, like nitro, RDX, PETN, TNT, even NI3, etc and something that merely burns fast like black powder or smokeless, which indeed must be enclosed to explode.) PS: if a diesel vehicle is tailgating, acetylene will nicely stop its engine in a rather expensive way. Can you say predetonation? A pound of calcium carbide and some water makes a nice vehicle stopper BTW, the .mil has looked into it. The non-exploding fireball from a refinery or storage facility will be sufficient to destroy the facility, and make nice video, which is sufficient. If Allah smiles, maybe you get a big bang too. The trick is to do more than one place in the same day, so it can't be written off as an industrial accident.
Re: Official notice for all e-gold users
the all your dinars turn to toilet paper attack on folks who have lots of cash. Ie, exchange your old currency for new (or check your egold account). Meanwhile these transactions are *monitored*, providing the IRS and DEA (etc) with new leads. Or in the case of egold, traceable IP routes. At 09:52 PM 3/28/04 +, e-gold ltd wrote: Dear e-gold user. At 28-th of March, 2004 the e-gold company has blocked a number of accounts
RE: Sttop Spreading Hatred
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: Another thing that seems to bind us (and again bind is probably a poor choice of words) is an extreme tolerance to opinions very different from that of any one subscriber. U... like ...and in a flame war bind them? /me hides
Court Opens Door To Searches Without Warrants
http://www.theneworleanschannel.com/print/2953483/detail.html?use=print TheNewOrleansChannel.com Court Opens Door To Searches Without Warrants POSTED: 3:55 PM CST March 26, 2004 UPDATED: 4:36 PM CST March 26, 2004 NEW ORLEANS -- It's a groundbreaking court decision that legal experts say will affect everyone: Police officers in Louisiana no longer need a search or arrest warrant to conduct a brief search of your home or business. Leaders in law enforcement say it will provide safety to officers, but others argue it's a privilege that could be abused. The decision was made by the New Orleans-based 5th Circuit Court of Appeals. Two dissenting judges called it the road to Hell. The ruiling stems from a lawsuit filed in Denham Springs in 2000. New Orleans Police Department spokesman Capt. Marlon Defillo said the new power will go into effect immediately and won't be abused. We have to have a legitimate problem to be there in the first place, and if we don't, we can't conduct the search, Defillo said. But former U.S. Attorney Julian Murray has big problems with the ruling. I think it goes way too far, Murray said, noting that the searches can be performed if an officer fears for his safety -- a subjective condition. Defillo said he doesn't envision any problems in New Orleans, but if there are, they will be handled. There are checks and balances to make sure the criminal justce system works in an effective manor, Defillo said. -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
RE: Sttop Spreading Hatred
OK, I keep getting this shit. Right now, I can't tell if it's anti-agit-prop or simply a well-intentioned but idiotic muslim chick (something about the wording made me assume this was a female). Listen up. Cypherpunks is a cryptography list, and al-qaeda.net is a node. The subscribers to this list may or may not sympathize with the activites of the Real al-qaeda. The name al-qaeda is, I suspect, more or less tongue-in-cheek, and at the least (or perhaps the most) a head-nod at some of the gripes that real organization has with the US government, and those that continue to support it's activites abroad. However, there does not appear to be any regular posters to this list that are involved with al-qaeda the terror network. (Actually, if there are, it would be interesting to hear from them via the remailers.) Cypherpunks is an extremely diverse group of indivduals, that do not appear to agree on a great many number of things. What binds us together (if anything) is the interest in cryptographic techniques that would appear to offer the capability of secure communications, with communications meaning any kind of transaction that can be transmitted by data over electronic or optoelectronic networks. Another thing that seems to bind us (and again bind is probably a poor choice of words) is an extreme tolerance to opinions very different from that of any one subscriber. Therefore please get a fuckin' clue. If you want to discuss the role of Radical Islam in contemporary world politics, I'm sure there are those that would be interested in doing so. Otherwise, please fuck off. Sincerely, Tyler S. Durden From: SSAR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sttop Spreading Hatred Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:01:59 +0500 Subject: Stop Spreading Hatred I think being a Muslim you are not working for peace. You are misguided, mistaken and spreading hatred through disinformation and false accusations, which is resulting in death and miseries for number of innocent people living around the world at the hands of merciless KILLER MUSLIMS and also bringing bad name to MOHAMMED as Founder Of Islam. To save Islam from total extinction, please work for peace and reconciliation and prove to the WORLD through your deeds that MOHAMMED teaches love peace and not Cruelty, Inhumanity and Hatred Killing of the innocent civilians. S.A.R _ All the action. All the drama. Get NCAA hoops coverage at MSN Sports by ESPN. http://msn.espn.go.com/index.html?partnersite=espn
Re: Anonymizer employees need killing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 1:01 AM -0600 3/28/04, bgt wrote: you state openly in your policy that you're not to be trusted! Think about it for a second. Anonymizer is set up to prevent *businesses*, stalkers, and small-time crooks like spammers, from seeing your behavior on the net and annoying you there. What's he going to do when uncle Fed shows up with guns? Have a shootout or something? :-) The point to cypherpunks as always been this, folks: Do not rely on *people*, especially people and *laws*, to protect your anonymity from, if you will, national technical means -- guys with guns and rubber hoses. That's what remailers are for, speaking of Lance, the guy who wrote Mixmaster. *Use* them. Build them. Make 'em better. And, if you're upset that you can't *surf* anonymously, sure as hell don't blame Lance. Blame the state of *markets* for such onion-routing services as Zero Knowledge's Freedom, or, even, the lack of interest in the open source community to build an equivalent. Meaning *buy* stuff when it comes on the market, and *use* someone's code when it shows up on sourceforge, or wherever, report bugs, and help *out*, instead of pissing and moaning that a single-hop anonymity service doesn't provide perfect anonymity against national technical means. More important, if you, personally, can do something about it, write code. If not, *hire* someone to write code. And, if you can't do *that*, then quit whining at the people who are actually *doing* something, anything, however small it is, in the right direction. Like Lance. Especially Lance. Certainly, if something you do pisses off the Uncle Fed, he's got the muscle to kick your ass. Live with it. Work around it. Use what's there to keep from getting your ass kicked. Progress is about doing something that hasn't been done before so that you have the *freedom* to do what you want. For example, Julf provided a single-stop remailer with penet. Some church subpoenaed him out of business. Fine. Do something else. Just don't sit there and whine about it. These days, there are *more* and better remailers out there (thanks to people like Lance) than a single hop one in Finland. Could it be better? Sure. So make it better instead of whining about it. And, finally, one last thing. After 5 or 6 years of it from Tim, who started this list, and the original physical meetings, it's no secret I've gotten really tired of the need killing chest-puffing bullshit. Tim was bad enough, but, at least -- and in ever-decreasing usefulness -- he had something substantive to say. Self-reference is a bitch, :-), but people who say other people need killing need killing themselves, and, frankly, deserve everything they get for saying so in otherwise civil discourse. Unpopular opinion is one thing, but bad manners is a mortal offense in my opinion. :-). So, try to act like adults, people. Not like a bunch of 12 year old boys who just found a loaded BAR in the garage. Cheers, RAH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBQGbpFMPxH8jf3ohaEQI2tQCg6ruUCCQ/q15O9Ps75ldDTB9tTWgAn1DD TmCabJz2jSjv7noQeaT0Ncb+ =mX/0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
Interesting case?
Interesting looking case coming up soon - an employee (whose motives are probably dubious, but still :) installed a keyghost onto his boss' pc and was charged with unauthorised wire tapping. That isn't the interesting bit. the interesting bit is this is IIRC exactly how the FBI obtained Scarfo's PGP password, waybackwhen - *without* a wiretap warrant. http://www.out-law.com/php/page.php?page_id=keystrokeloggerhit1080217420 be interesting if his lawyer decided to call an FBI expert to explain why this device isn't wiretapping, wouldn't it? :)
RE: Mobile Wifi Backpack (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)
Well, we actually discussed a similar configuration in the context of mass demonstration. Such a configuration could prevent a Goonsquad shakedown of data/photos/videos, particularly when the WiFi device is acting like a router, and particularly when this router is one of many in a sea of routers, all forwarding the info-stuff. To my knowledge, Variola cleverly dubbed it eJazeera. -TD From: Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mobile Wifi Backpack (fwd from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:28:35 +0100 - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 26 Mar 2004 23:26:03 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mobile Wifi Backpack User-Agent: SlashdotNewsScooper/0.0.3 Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/26/1841245 Posted by: michael, on 2004-03-26 20:20:00 Topic: wireless, 222 comments from the share-the-love dept. [1]ruzel writes Julian Bleecker's web site [2]TechKwonDo describes [3]a project that is a wifi base station in a backpack. 'WiFi.Bedouin is a wearable, mobile 802.11b node disconnected from the global Internet. It forms a WiFi island Internet challenging conventional assumptions about WiFi and suggesting new architectures for digital networks that are based on physical proximity rather than solely connectivity.' The motivation is essentially subversive but what other uses are there for a device like this? [4]Click Here References 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. http://www.techkwondo.com/ 3. http://www.techkwondo.com/projects/bedouin/index.html 4. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=2683alloc_id=6523site_id=1request_id=6363190op=clickpage=%2farticle%2epl - End forwarded message - -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a __ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net attach3 _ Get tax tips, tools and access to IRS forms all in one place at MSN Money! http://moneycentral.msn.com/tax/home.asp
RE: Sttop Spreading Hatred
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: Another thing that seems to bind us (and again bind is probably a poor choice of words) is an extreme tolerance to opinions very different from that of any one subscriber. U... like ...and in a flame war bind them? /me hides
Re: Anonymizer employees need killing
On Mar 28, 2004, at 9:05, R. A. Hettinga wrote: Anonymizer is set up to prevent *businesses*, stalkers, and small-time crooks like spammers, from seeing your behavior on the net and annoying you there. What's he going to do when uncle Fed shows up with guns? Have a shootout or something? This is exactly my point. You and I are saying essentially the same things. Anonymizer cannot be trusted with your life liberty. It is the equivalent of kid sister cryptography. Lance, however, does not seem to view it this way. And, if you're upset that you can't *surf* anonymously, sure as hell don't blame Lance. What I'm blaming Lance for is snake-oil marketing. When someone posted Anonymizer revealed the identity of a customer to the FBI, Lance posted Anonymizer would never do such a thing. But *of course* he would, because there's a metaphorical (if not real) gun pointed at his head. I'm not pissing and moaning that a single-hop anonymity service doesn't provide perfect anonymity, I'm calling Lance and Anonymizer on their false claims. Lance and Anonymizer should both be upfront and honest about exactly what level of anonymity Anonymizer /can/ provide. Then I would not have anything to say on this thread. I agree, the service is certainly useful for some things, and the world is better with it than without it. And, finally, one last thing. After 5 or 6 years of it from Tim, who started this list, and the original physical meetings, it's no secret I've gotten really tired of the need killing chest-puffing *I* did not say anyone needed killing, so I'm assuming this part of your rant was targeted at someone else. --bgt
Re: Sttop Spreading Hatred
Ahh, I was wondering why I got that message -- it didn't seem to have anything to do with any list, forgot about the al-queda node. So they must be spamming everyone whose posted with that crap. On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 08:54:12PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: OK, I keep getting this shit. Right now, I can't tell if it's anti-agit-prop or simply a well-intentioned but idiotic muslim chick (something about the wording made me assume this was a female). Listen up. Cypherpunks is a cryptography list, and al-qaeda.net is a node. The subscribers to this list may or may not sympathize with the activites of the Real al-qaeda. The name al-qaeda is, I suspect, more or less tongue-in-cheek, and at the least (or perhaps the most) a head-nod at some of the gripes that real organization has with the US government, and those that continue to support it's activites abroad. However, there does not appear to be any regular posters to this list that are involved with al-qaeda the terror network. (Actually, if there are, it would be interesting to hear from them via the remailers.) Cypherpunks is an extremely diverse group of indivduals, that do not appear to agree on a great many number of things. What binds us together (if anything) is the interest in cryptographic techniques that would appear to offer the capability of secure communications, with communications meaning any kind of transaction that can be transmitted by data over electronic or optoelectronic networks. Another thing that seems to bind us (and again bind is probably a poor choice of words) is an extreme tolerance to opinions very different from that of any one subscriber. Therefore please get a fuckin' clue. If you want to discuss the role of Radical Islam in contemporary world politics, I'm sure there are those that would be interested in doing so. Otherwise, please fuck off. Sincerely, Tyler S. Durden From: SSAR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sttop Spreading Hatred Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:01:59 +0500 Subject: Stop Spreading Hatred I think being a Muslim you are not working for peace. You are misguided, mistaken and spreading hatred through disinformation and false accusations, which is resulting in death and miseries for number of innocent people living around the world at the hands of merciless KILLER MUSLIMS and also bringing bad name to MOHAMMED as Founder Of Islam. To save Islam from total extinction, please work for peace and reconciliation and prove to the WORLD through your deeds that MOHAMMED teaches love peace and not Cruelty, Inhumanity and Hatred Killing of the innocent civilians. S.A.R _ All the action. All the drama. Get NCAA hoops coverage at MSN Sports by ESPN. http://msn.espn.go.com/index.html?partnersite=espn -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
Re: Anonymizer employees need killing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 1:53 PM -0600 3/28/04, bgt wrote: What I'm blaming Lance for is snake-oil marketing. Don't be a putz. He's marketing it for what it is. Lance has never made any claims of perfect anonymity. And, finally, one last thing. After 5 or 6 years of it from Tim, who started this list, and the original physical meetings, it's no secret I've gotten really tired of the need killing chest-puffing *I* did not say anyone needed killing, No, I was talking about the original post in this thread, and its resultant title. After watching you blather on, here, though, I'm beginning to regret what *I* said on the matter. :-). In the meantime, try to pry your panties out of the crack in your ass. Cheers, RAH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBQGdc68PxH8jf3ohaEQIwsgCeISV5A+amlSjXGtkAtpFN3Uei3zIAoJj0 YKsGDGoO3pX9qPAjHR/qtprk =TmHg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
