Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits

2005-01-28 Thread Tyler Durden
That's an interesting point. They seem to be attacking at precisely the 
correct rate to forcibly evolve P2P systems to be completely invulnerable to 
such efforts.

Hum. Perhaps Tim May works for MPAA? Nah... he wasn't THAT bright, was he?
-TD
From: Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:59:15 +
 http://news.com.com/2102-1030_3-5551903.html?tag=st.util.print

 Hollywood studios filed a second round of lawsuits against online
 movie-swappers on Wednesday, stepping up legal pressure on the 
file-trading
 community.

As much as I'd like to be upset, they are driving innovation of p2p
software.
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Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits

2005-01-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 10:16:44AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:

 That's an interesting point. They seem to be attacking at precisely the 
 correct rate to forcibly evolve P2P systems to be completely invulnerable 
 to such efforts.

Not really. The P2P assm^H^H^H^H architects are reissuing new systems with
holes patched reactively. There's no reason for a P2P system designed in 1996
to be water-tight to any threat model of 2010. (Strangely enough, they had
IP nazis and lawyers back then, too).
 
 Hum. Perhaps Tim May works for MPAA? Nah... he wasn't THAT bright, was he?

I think he was primarily one thing: frustrated. It's hard to see the idiots
win, year after year.

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RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder

2005-01-28 Thread Steve Thompson
Speaking of mistakes I seem to have pasted the wrong message text when
I sent my reply to Mr. Trei.  I regret the unfortunate duplication and
consequent waste of list bandwidth.

---

 --- Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
[mistake rate]
 If, in a capital case, where the money to pay public defenders
 is usually maximally available, and the appeals process, checks,
 and cross-checks are the more thorough than in any non-capital
 prosecution, you STILL get at least a 33% error rate, then what
 is the wrongfull conviction rate in non-capital cases, where there
 are far fewer appeals, and public defenders are paid a pittance?

I couldn't say, but it is well known that people who are accused
of a crime are given rather large incentives to plead guilty in
order to avoid the lengthly trial process.  This is, of course, a
major point.  However, there isn't much discussion about the 
lack of accountability for people (police, judicial officials,
etc.) who themselves run afoul of the law and who are rarely
punished at all.  And of course there's the lucrative prison
system with it's large union and bureaucracy.  Plus, many people
know about the recruiting facet of that industry in which some
individuals are groomed and incentivised to become agents of 
the state, in one capacity or another, in exchange for freedom
or lesser sentences.

Insofar as the intel community is concerned, it seems from my
perspective that there is no effective deterrent for violent
crime since you've pretty much got to do something really 
stupid before they'll prosecute: like cut off your wife's head
and store it in your freezer, or something equally gregarious.
For people in SpookWorld, fraud, larceny, perjury, and murder 
are merely the tools of the trade.

And don't get me started on about the cartels.


Regards,

Steve


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Scientists Work on Software to Scan Arabic

2005-01-28 Thread R.A. Hettinga
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/technology/AP-Arabic-Software.html?oref=loginpagewanted=printposition=

The New York Times

January 27, 2005

Scientists Work on Software to Scan Arabic
 By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


 Filed at 8:09 a.m. ET

BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- Computer scientists are developing software to scan
Arabic documents, including handwritten ones, for specific words and
phrases, filling a void that became apparent following the Sept. 11.
attacks.

Besides helping with intelligence gathering, the software should expand
access to modern and ancient Arabic manuscripts. It will allow Arabic
writings to be digitized and posted on the Web.

``The whole Internet is skewed toward people who speak English,'' said Venu
Govindaraju, director of the Center for Unified Biometrics and Sensors at
the University at Buffalo, where the software is being developed.

Govindaraju fears that if optical character recognition software isn't
developed for a particular language, ``then all the classic texts in that
language will disappear into oblivion.''

Bill Young, an Arab language specialist at the University of Maryland, said
the software could help scan through masses of typed pages for specific
names or words, though he cautioned that handwritten Arabic presents
serious challenges for computers.

For instance, the word mas'uul, meaning responsible, can be written in more
than one way, he said. So the software would have to be given instructions
about possible variations.

Govindaraju, who helped develop software to recognize handwritten addresses
in English, said the Arabic software would take into account the fact that
characters may take different forms depending on where within a word they
appear, and that Arabic vowels are pronounced but often not written.

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Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits

2005-01-28 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 04:41 PM 1/28/05 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
Not really. The P2P assm^H^H^H^H architects are reissuing new systems
with
holes patched reactively. There's no reason for a P2P system designed
in 1996
to be water-tight to any threat model of 2010. (Strangely enough, they
had
IP nazis and lawyers back then, too).

I was surprised to see that the EFF listed ADCs as endangered tech.
Because
the hollywood nazis regard (and damn rightly so) the analog hole as
real.  That a fairly stead
organization as EFF would regard the desparate death-sounds of hollywood

as a serious threat to such basic tech was astounding.

I've had cross-compiled code (for the MMC2107) identified as a virus
(and
therefore erased) by an antivirus program on a PC.  This only lost an
hour or two of work.
Imagine that your medical measurements, or kids'
performances, happen to match an ADC's copy protection codes.

Imagine that all your silicon belongs to us, us=hollywood=congress.

Imagine that all your printing presses belong to the State, for the
protection of
the commercial merde.

--

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60th anniversary
of Auswitz, coming to a goverment center near you

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'No Place to Hide': Nonstop Scrutiny, as Orwell Foresaw

2005-01-28 Thread R.A. Hettinga
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/25/books/25kaku.html?8bu=pagewanted=printposition=

The New York Times

January 25, 2005
BOOKS OF THE TIMES | 'NO PLACE TO HIDE'

Nonstop Scrutiny, as Orwell Foresaw
 By MICHIKO KAKUTANI


 NO PLACE TO HIDE
By Robert O'Harrow Jr.
 348 pages. Free Press. $26.

icture Minority Report combined with Orwell's 1984 and Francis Ford
Coppola's Conversation: in an effort to prevent future crimes and predict
what certain individuals are likely to do, the government has begun working
with high-tech titans to keep tabs on the populace.

 One company has come up with a digital identity system that has tagged
every adult American with a unique code. Another company is intent on
gaining control of all records - including state and local files, financial
information, employee dossiers, DNA data and criminal background checks -
that define our identity. In addition to iris scanners, voice analyzers and
fingerprint readers, there now exist face recognition machines and cameras
that can identify an individual by how he or she walks. One government
group is working on infrared detectors that could register heat signals
around people's eyes, indicating an autonomic fight or flight response;
another federal agency has floated a proposal to assess risk by examining
airline passengers' brain waves with noninvasive neuro-electric sensors.

This surveillance state is not a futuristic place conjured in a Philip K.
Dick novel or Matrix-esque sci-fi thriller. It is post-9/11 America, as
described in Robert O'Harrow Jr.'s unnerving new book, No Place to Hide -
an America where citizens' right to be let alone, as Justice Louis
Brandeis of the Supreme Court once put it, is increasingly imperiled, where
more and more components of our daily lives are routinely monitored,
recorded and analyzed.

 These concerns, of course, are hardly new. Way back in 1964, in The Naked
Society, Vance Packard warned about encroachments on civil liberties and
the growing threat to privacy posed by new electronic devices, and in 1971,
in The Assault on Privacy, Arthur R. Miller warned that advances in
information technologies had given birth to a new social virus -
'data-mania.'  The digital revolution of the 1990's, however,
exponentially amplified these trends by enabling retailers, marketers and
financial institutions to gather and store vast amounts of information
about current and potential customers. And as Mr. O'Harrow notes, the
terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, reignited and reshaped a smoldering
debate over the proper use of government power to peer into the lives of
ordinary people.

Some of the material in No Place to Hide is familiar from news coverage
(most notably, the author's own articles about privacy and technology for
The Washington Post), from a recent ABC News special (made in conjunction
with Mr. O'Harrow's reporting) and from recent books like Jeffrey Rosen's
Naked Crowd: Reclaiming Security and Freedom in an Anxious Age and
Christian Parenti's Soft Cage: Surveillance in America From Slavery to the
War on Terror.

 Still, Mr. O'Harrow provides in these pages an authoritative and vivid
account of the emergence of a security-industrial complex and the
far-reaching consequences for ordinary Americans, who must cope not only
with the uneasy sense of being watched (leading, defenders of civil
liberties have argued, to a stifling of debate and dissent) but also with
the very palpable dangers of having personal information (and in some
cases, inaccurate information) passed from one outfit to another.

Mr. O'Harrow also charts many consumers' willingness to trade a measure of
privacy for convenience (think of the personal information happily
dispensed to TiVo machines and Amazon.com in exchange for efficient service
and helpful suggestions), freedom for security. He reviews the gargantuan
data-gathering and data-mining operations already carried out by companies
like Acxiom, ChoicePoint and LexisNexis. And he shows how their methods are
being co-opted by the government.

The Privacy Act of 1974, enacted in the wake of revelations about covert
domestic spying by the F.B.I., the Army and other agencies, gave
individuals new rights to know and to correct information that the
government was collecting about them, but the government's current
predilection for outsourcing data-gathering to private companies has
changed the rules of the game.

 As Mr. O'Harrow notes: Among other things, the law restricted the
government from building databases of dossiers unless the information about
individuals was directly relevant to an agency's mission. Of course, that's
precisely what ChoicePoint, LexisNexis and other services do for the
government. By outsourcing the collection of records, the government
doesn't have to ensure the data is accurate, or have any provisions to
correct it in the same way it would under the Privacy Act. There are no
limits on how the information can be interpreted, all this at a time when
law 

Re: Scientists Work on Software to Scan Arabic

2005-01-28 Thread Justin
On 2005-01-28T20:03:22-0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
 http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/technology/AP-Arabic-Software.html?oref=loginpagewanted=printposition=
 The New York Times
 January 27, 2005
 Scientists Work on Software to Scan Arabic
  By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
 
 ``The whole Internet is skewed toward people who speak English,'' said Venu
 Govindaraju, director of the Center for Unified Biometrics and Sensors at
 the University at Buffalo, where the software is being developed.

Someone give that man a brain, and a cookie.  I don't live near NY.

The internet has nothing to do with scanning written/printed arabic
texts.

He obviously intended to squeeze a complaint about the internet into an
article about scanning printed/written documents.  The reason the
internet is skewed is because these idiots want others to fix the
internet to accommodate their languages.  As a result, much of the
non-western-language support in software is done by westerners, and so
doesn't work.

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men; some he makes slaves, others free.  --Heraclitus (Kahn.83/D-K.53) 



Le no-no

2005-01-28 Thread R.A. Hettinga
http://www.redherring.com/PrintArticle.aspx?a=11201sector=Industries

RED HERRING | The Business of Technology

Le no-no

The U.S. trips up a simple plan between IBM and Lenovo.
January 28, 2005

Homeland security is a cornerstone of the Bush Administration. But does
halting the IBM-Lenovo deal make the United States any safer? The Committee
on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) has decided to
investigate the threat presented by the sale of IBM's personal computer
business to China's Lenovo Group.

Industry observers want to know what it is about this deal that irks the
feds. I don't know, says Jeff Moss, CEO of Black Hat, a computer security
consulting firm. It could be the loss of any manufacturing technology, any
kind of proprietary technology that IBM had; but the Chinese could take a
laptop apart themselves, too.

Besides, most personal computers are already made in China-PC production is
extremely commoditized, perhaps as much as transistors. It is quite a
stretch [to say] that the sale of the PC business to Lenovo would threaten
American security, says Baizu Chen, a professor at the University of
Southern California's Gordon S. Marshall School of Business. Some senators
want to make a noise. Eventually, this will pass. It's just transfer of
ownership.

One concern may have to do more with location than technology. The
Washington Post quoted a member of the U.S.-China Economic and Security
Review Commission-a Congressional panel created to watch commercial
relations between the U.S. and China-as saying that Chinese computer
experts could use an IBM facility in North Carolina as a base for
industrial espionage.

While the U.S. Treasury Department wouldn't confirm or deny the launch of
the 45-day probe, IBM, which will still hold an 18.9 percent stake in the
business, says it has filed the required notice with the committee and is
cooperating fully. The company is confident in the process and outcome. One
would hope so, given that the deal is worth $1.75 billion in cash, equity,
and assumed debt.

Where are the red flags? The U.S. government must demand action if a deal
impacts domestic production needed for projected national defense
requirements, or the capacity of domestic industries to meet national
defense requirements, or the control of domestic industries by foreign
citizens. The sale of IBM's money-losing PC unit doesn't quite cut it.

It could be an issue of pride, say some-or perhaps cryptographic chips, say
others. Some of the IBM laptops have built-in cryptographic chips, says
Pete Lindstrom, research director for Spire Securities. Mr. Lindstrom
points out that if the intellectual property associated with cryptography
is sold to a foreign country, one could potentially transfer a strong
cryptographic capability to another country.

But IBM is a multinational company, with employees across the globe. Would
it really be so hard for someone to access such information? In the end, it
all comes down to whom you trust. Legend Holdings owns the majority stake
in Lenovo, and the Chinese government controls a large chunk of Legend. A
few years ago, Global Crossing wanted to sell its telecommunications
network to Hong Kong-based Hutchison Whampoa. It almost did-until the CFIUS
stepped in. But that's a story IBM executives would rather not think about.

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Lawsuit alleges 'online currency' scam

2005-01-28 Thread R.A. Hettinga
http://news.com.com/2102-1030_3-5553141.html?tag=st.util.print

CNET News

 Lawsuit alleges 'online currency' scam

 By Declan McCullagh

 Story last modified Thu Jan 27 08:47:00 PST 2005



A lawsuit claiming that a gold backed Internet currency scheme bilked
investors out of more than $250 million can proceed against a bank
implicated in it, a federal judge has ruled.

At the height of its popularity, the OSGold currency boasted more than
60,000 accounts created by people drawn to promises of high yield
investments that would provide guaranteed monthly returns of 30 percent to
45 percent.

 But around July 2002, the eve of the maturity date for the investment
program, the company that offered the accounts suddenly ceased payouts.
David Reed, who had founded the company called One Groupe International,
eventually was discovered to have relocated from the United States to
Cancun, Mexico.

 Concluding they had been fleeced, a group of OSGold investors banded
together to sue Reed and 19 other defendants including two Latvian banks
that allegedly lent their imprimatur to the project. It was fronted by the
sale of a nonexistent gold-backed Internet currency and was fueled by a
mammoth 'Ponzi' scheme disguised as a guaranteed high-yield investment
program, the OSGold investors say in court documents.


U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan ruled on Friday that the lawsuit could
proceed against the Latvian Economic Commercial Bank (Lateko), which had
attempted to dismiss the charges. Kaplan, in New York, dismissed some
charges against Lateko, including breach of fiduciary duty, but permitted
the rest to stand.

 Lateko's apparently false denials to a possibly important business
partner and its continued cooperation with (Reed and other defendants) even
after the scheme suspiciously began to collapse tend to show conscious
disregard or recklessness and give rise to a strong inference of fraudulent
intent, Kaplan wrote.

 Lateko's involvement began in December 2001, when it allegedly inked a
deal with Reed and other defendants to provide anonymous debit cards that
could be used to withdraw money from OSGold accounts from ATMs linked to
the Cirrus network. Lawyers for Lateko in the New York offices of Baker 
McKenzie did not respond to an interview request.

 Suspecting something odd was going on, some companies involved in
providing gold-backed Internet currencies tried to distance themselves from
OSGold early on. In May 2001, the Gold and Silver Reserve (responsible for
the e-gold currency) announced it would no longer link to companies that
did business with or make reference to OSGold.

 A Ponzi scheme is an illegal pyramid scheme in which some early investors
are paid off with money from later investors in an attempt to make the
system look legitimate. But when later investors demand their money, the
fraud collapses. This type of scheme is named for 1920s-era swindler
Charles Ponzi, who promised investors a 40 percent return in 90 days.

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Unintended Consequences

2005-01-28 Thread R.A. Hettinga
http://www.securityfocus.com/printable/columnists/293

 SecurityFocus  COLUMNISTS 293

Columnists

 http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/293 

Unintended Consequences

By Scott Granneman Jan 19 2005 01:11PM PT
 Back in the 1970s, long before the revolution that would eventually topple
him from power, the Shah of Iran was one of America's best friends (he was
a dictator who brutally repressed his people, but he was anti-communist,
and that made him OK in our book). Wanting to help out a good friend, the
United States government agreed to sell Iran the very same intaglio presses
used to print American currency so that the Shah could print his own high
quality money for his country. Soon enough, the Shah was the proud owner of
some of the best money printing machines in the world, and beautiful
Iranian Rials proceeded to flow off the presses.

 All things must come to an end, and the Shah was forced to flee Iran in
1979 when the Ayatollah Khomeini's rebellion brought theocratic rule to
Iran. Everyone reading this undoubtedly knows the terrible events that
followed: students took American embassy workers hostage for over a year as
Iran declared America to be the Great Satan, while evidence of US
complicity in the Shah's oppression of his people became obvious, leading
to a break in relations between the two countries that continues to worsen
to this day.

 During the early 90s, counterfeit $100 bills began to flood the Mideast,
eventually spreading around the world. Known as superbills or
superdollars by the US Treasury due to the astounding quality of the
forgeries, these $100 bills became a tremendous headache not only for the
US and its economy, but also for people all over the world that depend on
the surety of American money. Several culprits have been suggested as
responsible for the superbills, including North Korea and Syria, but many
observers think the real culprit is the most obvious suspect: an Iranian
government deeply hostile to the United States ... and even worse, an
Iranian government possessing the very same printing presses used to create
American money.

 If you've ever wondered just why American currency was redesigned in the
1990s, now you know. In the 1970s, the US rewarded an ally with a special
machine; in the 1990s, the US had to change its money because that ally was
no longer an ally, and that special machine was now a weapon used to attack
the US's money supply, where it really hurts. As an example of the law of
unintended consequences, it's powerful, and it illustrates one of the main
results of that law: that those unintended consequences can really bite
back when you least expect them.

 Unprepared and unready

 Sometimes unintended consequences occur from the best of intentions. For
instance, Denny's is known for being open 24 hours a day, every day,
always. The story goes that in 1998, for the first time in 35 years,
Denny's decided to close its doors on Christmas, but there was a big
problem: since Denny's was always open, many stores didn't have locks on
the doors, so they couldn't close.

 Likewise, email was invented in 1971 and was immediately embraced as a
great way to communicate with folks all over the world. Since virtually
everyone on the Net pretty much knew each other at the time, email was
developed without a lot of safeguards. Spoofing the sender? Not a real
issue. False headers? Why in the world would anyone want to do that?
Purposely misspelled words in the subject to get past filters? First of
all, what the heck are filters, and why would someone want to spell
something weird to get past one?

 It was a more innocent age, but that innocence was lost long ago, thanks
to a trickle ... no, a stream ... no, a flood, an absolutely Biblical flood
of garbage, scams, lies, ads, swindles, and just plain crap. In fact, it's
gotten so bad that MX Logic, an antispam vendor, now estimates that 75% of
all email is spam, while in same article Postini Inc. jacks that number up
to 88% of all email. Think about that: only about 1 in 10 emails is
legitimate. That's truly pathetic, almost enraging, and it's finally
leading (slowly, oh so slowly) to necessary changes - not in the legal
system, since the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 seems to have done virtually nothing
to stem the tide - but in email infrastructure, to things like Microsoft's
proposed Sender ID, Yahoo's Domain Keys, and Sender Policy Framework. Of
course, at this time there's no consensus on the solution, and with patents
and other contentious issues of so-called intellectual property acting as
flies in the ointment, we may never reach a unified approach to the problem
of spam. Naturally, that just helps the spammers. But they don't mind -
they're busy helping each other.

 Fast forward from 1971 to 2005. Would the inventors recognize the
monstrosity they innocently unleashed upon the world?

 Making things easier for the bad guys

 Bruce Schneier, in his excellent Beyond Fear, reports that drivers in
Russia have made 

RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder

2005-01-28 Thread Steve Thompson
 --- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
[mistake rate]
 And of course there's the fairly obvious point that lots of those in
 prison 
 correctly are there for drug-related crimes. Said crimes would
 almost 
 completely dissappear and drug usage would drop if many of those drugs
 were 
 legalized and taxed. But God forbid that happen because what would all
 those 
 policemen do for a living? Prison workers? Judges?

Well, pot is bad.  Duh.  


Regards,

Steve


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Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits

2005-01-28 Thread Justin
 http://news.com.com/2102-1030_3-5551903.html?tag=st.util.print
 
 Hollywood studios filed a second round of lawsuits against online
 movie-swappers on Wednesday, stepping up legal pressure on the file-trading
 community.

As much as I'd like to be upset, they are driving innovation of p2p
software.

-- 
War is the father and king of all, and some he shows as gods, others as
men; some he makes slaves, others free.  --Heraclitus (Kahn.83/D-K.53) 



RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder

2005-01-28 Thread Steve Thompson
 --- Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Thompson
  Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:13 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder
  
  
   --- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  [airport security]
   More indications of an emerging 'Brazil' scenario, as opposed to a 
   hyper-intelligent super-fascist state.
  
  As if.
  
  There already is a kind of intelligent super-fascist state in place
  thoughout much of society.  My bugbears of the moment are the 
  police and
  courts, so you get my take on how they are organised so as to be
  'intelligent' without seeming so -- which further enables a 
  whole lot of
  fraud to masqerade as process and incompetence.  The 
  super-fascist part
  comes about because the system avoids public accountability while also
  somehow evading any sort of reasonable standard of performance.
  
  What's the error rate, that is the false arrest, prosecution, and/or
  conviction rate of a Western countries' judiciary and police 
  divitions? 
  If it's even ten percent, and it's probably much higher, then 
  there is no
  reason to respect the operation and perpetuation of the system.  
 
 One chilling data point. Remember a few years ago the (pro death
 penalty) governor of Illinois suspended all the death sentences in 
 has state? The reason being was that with the introduction of DNA
 testing, 1/3 of the people on death row were found to be innocent.
 
 I don't know how many other innocents the state planned to murder, 
 but presumably there were some cases where DNA evidence was not
 available.
 
 If, in a capital case, where the money to pay public defenders
 is usually maximally available, and the appeals process, checks,
 and cross-checks are the more thorough than in any non-capital
 prosecution, you STILL get at least a 33% error rate, then what
 is the wrongfull conviction rate in non-capital cases, where there
 are far fewer appeals, and public defenders are paid a pittance?
 
 Peter Trei
  

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Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits

2005-01-28 Thread Tyler Durden
That's an interesting point. They seem to be attacking at precisely the 
correct rate to forcibly evolve P2P systems to be completely invulnerable to 
such efforts.

Hum. Perhaps Tim May works for MPAA? Nah... he wasn't THAT bright, was he?
-TD
From: Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:59:15 +
 http://news.com.com/2102-1030_3-5551903.html?tag=st.util.print

 Hollywood studios filed a second round of lawsuits against online
 movie-swappers on Wednesday, stepping up legal pressure on the 
file-trading
 community.

As much as I'd like to be upset, they are driving innovation of p2p
software.
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Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits

2005-01-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 10:16:44AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:

 That's an interesting point. They seem to be attacking at precisely the 
 correct rate to forcibly evolve P2P systems to be completely invulnerable 
 to such efforts.

Not really. The P2P assm^H^H^H^H architects are reissuing new systems with
holes patched reactively. There's no reason for a P2P system designed in 1996
to be water-tight to any threat model of 2010. (Strangely enough, they had
IP nazis and lawyers back then, too).
 
 Hum. Perhaps Tim May works for MPAA? Nah... he wasn't THAT bright, was he?

I think he was primarily one thing: frustrated. It's hard to see the idiots
win, year after year.

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RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder

2005-01-28 Thread Steve Thompson
Speaking of mistakes I seem to have pasted the wrong message text when
I sent my reply to Mr. Trei.  I regret the unfortunate duplication and
consequent waste of list bandwidth.

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 --- Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
[mistake rate]
 If, in a capital case, where the money to pay public defenders
 is usually maximally available, and the appeals process, checks,
 and cross-checks are the more thorough than in any non-capital
 prosecution, you STILL get at least a 33% error rate, then what
 is the wrongfull conviction rate in non-capital cases, where there
 are far fewer appeals, and public defenders are paid a pittance?

I couldn't say, but it is well known that people who are accused
of a crime are given rather large incentives to plead guilty in
order to avoid the lengthly trial process.  This is, of course, a
major point.  However, there isn't much discussion about the 
lack of accountability for people (police, judicial officials,
etc.) who themselves run afoul of the law and who are rarely
punished at all.  And of course there's the lucrative prison
system with it's large union and bureaucracy.  Plus, many people
know about the recruiting facet of that industry in which some
individuals are groomed and incentivised to become agents of 
the state, in one capacity or another, in exchange for freedom
or lesser sentences.

Insofar as the intel community is concerned, it seems from my
perspective that there is no effective deterrent for violent
crime since you've pretty much got to do something really 
stupid before they'll prosecute: like cut off your wife's head
and store it in your freezer, or something equally gregarious.
For people in SpookWorld, fraud, larceny, perjury, and murder 
are merely the tools of the trade.

And don't get me started on about the cartels.


Regards,

Steve


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