Mail-order cat piss (was Re: Trolls)

2000-08-15 Thread David Honig

At 07:03 PM 8/14/00 -0400, Steven Furlong wrote:

I could probably come up with uses for cat pee if I set my mind to it.
I'm having considerable difficulty with the idea of commercially-
available cat pee. Is it sanitized? Are Dept of Health certificates
needed? How on earth can you make a profit selling cat pee by mail?
Who _thought_ of selling cat pee, let alone by mail?

The mind wobbles.

You can buy scents to attract and repel animals, e.g.
for hunting or gardening, respectively.  Since they are not
for internal (or topical, AFAIK) use, they are not regulated.
I don't imagine the market for say estrous deer butt-glands
is huge, but if you need that stuff, it'll cost ya.













  








Mail-order cat piss (was Re: Trolls)

2000-08-15 Thread David Honig

At 09:36 PM 8/14/00 -0400, Eric Murray wrote:
  Horses are much more visual than
anything else

In that case the polihooligans should dress up in strange costumes.  Only
the horses that have worked the SF parades (or certain parts of Hollywood)
would be able to deal with the sights...












  








Mail-order cat piss (was Re: Trolls)

2000-08-15 Thread David Honig

At 12:56 AM 8/15/00 -0400, Reese wrote:
Horse manure accomplishes the same thing, if used instead of cattle manure
as a fertilizer.

Well just as the hoohah got started, someone from PETA dropped
a ton of horse manure on the hotel steps.  Didn't keep the pigs or
horses away. (The activist was dressed in a pig costume, which
made for a nice photo of his arrest.
http://www.latimes.com/news/state/2813/t75982.html)






  








Mail-order cat piss (was Re: Trolls)

2000-08-15 Thread Richard Crisp

This is legitimate, the urine of foxes and bobcats is regularly used to keep
pests out of gardens such as squirrels, moles, voles, and other such
critters. I understand that Skunks can be kept away with such products too.
rdc

Harmon Seaver wrote:

  Heck, you can get some pretty nice scents from ads in the back of
 Fur-Fish-Game, the trapper's magazine. Also any place that sells
 trapping supplies (I know there are some web sites for trap supplies
 now, but don't have an URL) would carry scents. Cat, fox, coyote urine
 and gland scents, skunk, you betcha! And it's amazingly strong. And long
 lasting.





Mail-order cat piss (was Re: Trolls)

2000-08-15 Thread Reese

At 09:48 AM 15/08/00 -0400, David Honig wrote:
 At 12:56 AM 8/15/00 -0400, Reese wrote:
 Horse manure accomplishes the same thing, if used instead of cattle manure
 as a fertilizer.
 
 Well just as the hoohah got started, someone from PETA dropped
 a ton of horse manure on the hotel steps.  Didn't keep the pigs or
 horses away.

The original poster suggested cat piss to keep the deer away, horse manure
does the same trick - with regard to deer.

Reese





Mail-order cat piss (was Re: Trolls)

2000-08-14 Thread anonymous

On Monday, August 14, 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I could probably come up with uses for cat pee if I set my mind to it.
 I'm having considerable difficulty with the idea of commercially-
 available cat pee. Is it sanitized? Are Dept of Health certificates
 needed? How on earth can you make a profit selling cat pee by mail?
 Who _thought_ of selling cat pee, let alone by mail?

IIRC it is used by squishy-centered gardeners who want to keep Bambi away
from their basil.  (I know you can order "Bobcat" for this purpose.  I
don't know if it comes in other flavours.)

Yep:  http://www.critterridders.com/urine.htm offers fox, bobcat, wolf,
and coyote.  Whee!





Mail-order cat piss (was Re: Trolls)

2000-08-14 Thread Eric Murray

On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 07:31:29PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Monday, August 14, 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I could probably come up with uses for cat pee if I set my mind to it.
  I'm having considerable difficulty with the idea of commercially-
  available cat pee. Is it sanitized? Are Dept of Health certificates
  needed? How on earth can you make a profit selling cat pee by mail?
  Who _thought_ of selling cat pee, let alone by mail?
 
 IIRC it is used by squishy-centered gardeners who want to keep Bambi away
 from their basil.  (I know you can order "Bobcat" for this purpose.  I
 don't know if it comes in other flavours.)
 
 Yep:  http://www.critterridders.com/urine.htm offers fox, bobcat, wolf,
 and coyote.  Whee!


The deer in our yard pretty much ignore the cat piss we leave out
near the rose bushes[1].  There's also cat piss from the wild bobcats, and the
coyote piss from the coyotes.  All the critters follow pretty much the same
path around the house, and those that are wont to do so leave their marks
in the appropriate spots.  The deer don't seem to care.

Having spent a childhood with horses, I don't think that police horses
in the midst of a riot, or even a crowd of people, are going to care
much about a whiff of cat piss.  Horses are much more visual than
anything else, and horses in a crowd of people are going to be paying
full attention to what they're seeing, not what they're smelling.

If it was a horse that's out in the woods, going down a trail under
trees or next to a rock outcrop, and smells mountain-lion pee, it might
pay closer attention or maybe decide to go a different way.

But a police horse, in a crowd of people?  It'd hardly notice the smell.
It could well flinch at the motion of someone throwing something at it,
but for that, water would do just as well.


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Mail-order cat piss (was Re: Trolls)

2000-08-14 Thread Tim May

At 7:03 PM -0400 8/14/00, Steven Furlong wrote:
Anon User wrote:

  On Monday, August 14, 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Maybe there will be guards posted at the kitty litter in the zoos.
   I hope we see "assault scat" discussed on CNN.

  Feline urine can be mail-ordered from a wide number of catalogues.

  "Next on CNN: The new federal feline urine licensing program..."

  Do *you* have your FFUL?

I could probably come up with uses for cat pee if I set my mind to it.
I'm having considerable difficulty with the idea of commercially-
available cat pee. Is it sanitized? Are Dept of Health certificates
needed? How on earth can you make a profit selling cat pee by mail?
Who _thought_ of selling cat pee, let alone by mail?

The mind wobbles.

I'd heard of it before...I believe in connection with it being a 
natural deer repellant.

And why wouldn't it be sold by mail?

As for use during the upcoming festivities in LA, I'm agnostic. WMD 
are more interesting than WED (Weapons of Equine Distraction).


--Tim May
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Mail-order cat piss (was Re: Trolls)

2000-08-14 Thread Harmon Seaver

 Heck, you can get some pretty nice scents from ads in the back of
Fur-Fish-Game, the trapper's magazine. Also any place that sells
trapping supplies (I know there are some web sites for trap supplies
now, but don't have an URL) would carry scents. Cat, fox, coyote urine
and gland scents, skunk, you betcha! And it's amazingly strong. And long
lasting.





Mail-order cat piss (was Re: Trolls)

2000-08-14 Thread Mark Allyn


Hello:

There are people who have a fetish in urine. I know in the gay
community, there is a sub-culture of those who love to urinate
on each other. Its called golden showers. 

I happen to have a fetish in soft clear plastic (making and wearing
clear plastic raincoats); and I had received an unusual request. 
A man requested that I sew together two large piece of soft clear
vinyl to create a sealable sack about the size os a king size bed
mattress. He put it on the top of his bed and then crawled into it.
He would lay there and urinate in it. Sometimes he did this alone and
sometime he did this with a partner. 

These fetish people pay big bucks. The guy literally thrust 200 bucks
into my suprised hand to have me make him the garment. I was lucky
enough to be able to sew.

This goes to show you that there is a market for everything. And,
suprisingly, it could be a lucrative one.

One evening, in Seattle, someone had offered to buy one of my crystal
clear vinyl plastic raincoats off of my back for 80 bucks cash on
the spot!

Mark Allyn