Re: Disease Vectors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Measl wrote: Truth is seldom funny. Oh? I'm not so sure, actually. Ever hear of Schopenhauer's incongruity theory? He says that humor arises when the seemly and logical abruptly dissolves into the low and absurd--the amused response is a recognition of incongruity between representation and a concept; we encounter a situation where a particular representation is thought through a concept which is in every other respect incongruous with it. Thus, the sudden apprehension of the unexpected incongruity produces an amused response. Another interesting observation from Schopenhauer that Nietzsche took and ran with: humor as the only divine quality of man. Read what he had to say about the Spirit of Gravity...here's another bit from Zarathustra: I bade them laugh at their great masters of virtue and saints and poets and world-redeemers. I bade them laugh at their gloomy sages and at whoever had at any time sat on the tree of life like a black scarecrow. For in laughter all that is evil comes together, but is pronounced holy and absolved by its own bliss. Something to think about. ;) ~Faustine. *** To be self-sufficient, to be all and all to oneself, to want for nothing is assuredly the chief qualification for happiness. - - Arthur Schopenhauer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: Hush 2.1 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com wl4EARECAB4FAjxLWGYXHGZhdXN0aW5lLkBodXNobWFpbC5jb20ACgkQGwpHwwWoj8X8 YgCfYMevUrgJRNOAGGhk2FWxBwfJf6oAnj3JQtETrjzBPIOSYQi4Ttxp8cOZ =60eB -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Disease Vectors
On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bade them laugh at their great masters of virtue and saints and poets and world-redeemers. I bade them laugh at their gloomy sages and at whoever had at any time sat on the tree of life like a black scarecrow. For in laughter all that is evil comes together, but is pronounced holy and absolved by its own bliss. Something to think about. ;) Just not too much. If any of these guys had that much better grasp on what and why we wouldn't be talking about it. -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
RE: Disease vectors.
Anonymous wrote: Agent Farr wrote: I'm sure you think that's really funny. This place has turned into a disease vector for anti-intelligence propaganda. Some of you are carriers. Governments opposed to the re-invigoration of our intelligence capabilities and American spheres of influence are planting some of this crap. The Russians made some direct threats of relative measures after the Pasko protests (aimed at the FSB), citing the involvement of U.S. diplomats. Do you have any evidence to support this wild claim? I bet I can get her to fish that up *rolls eyes* [1] http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2002/01/15/014.html [2] 2002-01-14 15:20 MSK - NOTE OF PROTEST SENT TO US EMBASSY MOSCOW - The Foreign Ministry of the Russian Federation sent a diplomatic note of protest to the US Embassy in Moscow and expressed its discontent with activities of the US consulate in Vladivostok, diplomatic sources in Moscow reported to RosBusinessConsulting today. The reason for sending the note was the participation of the US Consul General and the US Consul for political and economic affairs in a demonstration near the department of the Federal Security Service in the Primorye region and the court of the Pacific Fleet and the Military Prosecutor's Office. The demonstration was arranged by the public committee in the support of military journalist Grigory Pasko on January 10. The Foreign Ministry of Russia declared the participation of the US officials in this event a serous violation of international rules, which may cause relative measures in response from Russia. - RBC Observations: Post 9/11, the policy actions in Russia resemble maneuver warfare, not deliberative politics. Not just changes in regard to foreign policy, but internal structural changes. Putin has been very busy in speaking to other countries, and the press has been busy signaling diplomatic and economic alliances: France, Poland, China, Germany, India, Vietnam, Brazil, Japan (He looks like that super-hero guy in the red outfit with the lighting rods on his ears. The fast guy. Every day, he's had a visit or a phone conversation with another country.) A few weeks back, we had Russian generals going ballistic. (actual English words, in case you might miss the undertone) This week, big headline: our missile endeavors are going to ensure U.S. technological hegemony FOREVER! In just a few months, Russia repositioned itself. They have OODA-loop politics. (That sort of policy speed is probably on par with what military might used to be.) They are restricting foreigners, going through spy/treason mania, gagging the press, they even have a new law against desecrating the national anthem. Their new senate consists of powerful people nominated to represent small regions from which they have no connection whatsoever. (None of this has made the Washington Post, or I haven't seen it.) 75% of their politicians take bribes, and the old KGB runs the country. I don't mean to mirror-image, but it's disturbing -- it's like they *COPIED* our anti-dissent statutes c. 1917, and right before we entered the Cold War. (Espionage Sedition Acts, Smith Act, etc) Russia is talking about re-nationalizing Soviet intellectual property and making lists, with punitive measures, forcing intensive RD (Russian word for espionage), especially in the military and oil sectors. (No more silly embassy games for them, they will task their criminal networks.) Japan stole entire industry sectors inside of 10 years. While terrorism is mostly put forth as a dirty tool of policy, it strikes at the heart of the social contract. Our response: When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Terrorism makes us hit our own people and focus on perimeter defenses, which gives subnational groups cohesion and loads our defensive orientation. It would seem to offer a situation that other countries can take advantage of in numerous ways. I hope our War on Terrorism isn't masking the advent of another kind of warfare. They want to undermine public opinion of our intelligence agencies, because they are after our throat. ~Aimee
RE: Disease vectors.
Agent Farr wrote: I'm sure you think that's really funny. I have no idea, it apparently struck a nerve. Do you have any evidence to support this wild claim? I bet I can get her to fish that up *rolls eyes* [1] http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2002/01/15/014.html The Moscow Times? Now that is funny, since the claim was about this list being a vector for anti-intelligence propaganda and Russian threats.
RE: Disease vectors.
[1] http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2002/01/15/014.html The Moscow Times? Now that is funny, since the claim was about this list being a vector for anti-intelligence propaganda and Russian threats. http://www.russianstory.com Extortion is the polite term, it was just an easy source to Google up.
RE: Disease Vectors
Tim: But I must say that we are a pale imitation of our role in 1993-95, when we published the RC-R cipher, blew the whistle on the NSA's proposal to have Jim Bidzos run over in his parking lot, provided the Stealth fighter blueprints, published the home address of notorious killer and FBI agent Lon Horiuchi, and generally sought ways to undermine the NSA, DIA, CIA, and other intelligence agencies operating in support of America's New World Order. I recognize that in the eyes of some, that might be a public service. Agent Farr, it is possible you will survive the upcoming trials and executions. If you do, reflect on your sins. I'll go reflect now. ~Aimee Do not let your opponent see your spirit. -- Miyamoto Musashi
Re: CDR: RE: Disease vectors.
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Aimee Farr wrote: Anonymous wrote: Agent Farr wrote: I'm sure you think that's really funny. Truth is seldom funny. They are restricting foreigners, going through spy/treason mania, gagging the press, they even have a new law against desecrating the national anthem. Their new senate consists of powerful people nominated to represent small regions from which they have no connection whatsoever. (None of this has made the Washington Post, or I haven't seen it.) 75% of their politicians take bribes, and the old KGB runs the country. I don't mean to mirror-image, but it's disturbing -- it's like they *COPIED* our anti-dissent statutes c. 1917, and right before we entered the Cold War. (Espionage Sedition Acts, Smith Act, etc) This is also a description of today's United States. So, given that you [appear to] believe this kind of behaviour is evil, what are *you* doing to rectify our national attitude problem? ~Aimee A black rose [agent] by any other name will still smell as rank... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
