Re: Freematt's review of "A State of Disobedience" By Tom Kratman

2004-02-23 Thread Tyler Durden
Well, yeah...there's been a lot of good to come out of the Christian world, 
including the notion of "unalienable human rights".

But it's a worthwhile topic to troll about for a while. If you make a 
calculation of the number of humans made miserable by greater Christendom 
(to use a Kierkegaardian term), it probably dwarfs a similar calculation 
made for other religions, including Stalinism. On the other hand, the 
Christians learned how to make precise-bore gunpowder weapons earlier than 
anyone else, so maybe it's just an historic accident.

However, fundamentalist forms of Christianity seem to be at the heart of a 
lot of this Administration's shenannigans (see that Vanity Fair article on 
Orrin Hatch and you'll be pretty upset...)

-TD


From: "Pete Capelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Pete Capelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Freematt's review of "A State of Disobedience" By Tom Kratman
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 12:06:48 -0500
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>And if you look back, it's clear that 99% if not all repression
> in the US comes from exactly that basis -- all the sex laws, porn
> laws, drug laws -- the intolerant, hate-filled christian mindset that
> says sex is bad, mental freedom is bad, pleasure is bad, the wilderness
> is bad and must be tamed, subjegated, and "civilised", that the
environment
> is for humans alone to exploit, that other religions and cultures are
> evil and must be suppressed and "rehabilitated" and re-educated as they
> did with the Indians.
>Isn't it time for freedom loving people to wake up and start dealing
> with the basic problem in the world and especially the US -- 
christianity?
>

(You left out cancer, AIDS, and supersized happy meals)

Intolerant hate filled christian mind set?  How does this 
differentiate
christians from the muslims, jews, native americans (I can't believe you
were so insensitive as to call them Indians) or even atheists?

Perhaps we should all give in to the fun-loving stalinist's.  They got
rid of God, and it worked out well for them (and for human rights,
economics, etc etc).
-p


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Re: Freematt's review of "A State of Disobedience" By Tom Kratman

2004-02-23 Thread Pete Capelli
Message flagged as -1 (Troll)

>And if you look back, it's clear that 99% if not all repression
> in the US comes from exactly that basis -- all the sex laws, porn
> laws, drug laws -- the intolerant, hate-filled christian mindset that
> says sex is bad, mental freedom is bad, pleasure is bad, the wilderness
> is bad and must be tamed, subjegated, and "civilised", that the
environment
> is for humans alone to exploit, that other religions and cultures are
> evil and must be suppressed and "rehabilitated" and re-educated as they
> did with the Indians.
>Isn't it time for freedom loving people to wake up and start dealing
> with the basic problem in the world and especially the US -- christianity?
>

(You left out cancer, AIDS, and supersized happy meals)

Intolerant hate filled christian mind set?  How does this differentiate
christians from the muslims, jews, native americans (I can't believe you
were so insensitive as to call them Indians) or even atheists?

Perhaps we should all give in to the fun-loving stalinist's.  They got
rid of God, and it worked out well for them (and for human rights,
economics, etc etc).

-p




Re: Freematt's review of "A State of Disobedience" By Tom Kratman

2004-02-23 Thread Anonymous
Tyler Durden wrote:

> Damn. I'd say "that's the most intolerant hate-filled garbage I ever..."
>
> But shit. It's basically true. Or at least the fundamentalists in charge of   
> the government these days seem to equate their two-dimensional cartoon view
> of the world with reality, and that's dangerous because their guns are
> real"Let God sort 'em out" seems to be the basic philosophy.

   And if you look back, it's clear that 99% if not all repression
in the US comes from exactly that basis -- all the sex laws, porn
laws, drug laws -- the intolerant, hate-filled christian mindset that
says sex is bad, mental freedom is bad, pleasure is bad, the wilderness
is bad and must be tamed, subjegated, and "civilised", that the environment
is for humans alone to exploit, that other religions and cultures are
evil and must be suppressed and "rehabilitated" and re-educated as they
did with the Indians.
   Isn't it time for freedom loving people to wake up and start dealing
with the basic problem in the world and especially the US -- christianity?



Re: Freematt's review of "A State of Disobedience" By Tom Kratman

2004-02-23 Thread Tyler Durden
Damn. I'd say "that's the most intolerant hate-filled garbage I ever..."

But shit. It's basically true. Or at least the fundamentalists in charge of 
the government these days seem to equate their two-dimensional cartoon view 
of the world with reality, and that's dangerous because their guns are 
real"Let God sort 'em out" seems to be the basic philosophy.

As it so happens I saw 'Malcom X' on cable last night

-TD


From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Freematt's review of "A State of Disobedience" By Tom Kratman
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 20:45:05 +0100 (CET)
   Yes, unfortunately most of the literature of this type
fails to recognize the basic problem in the US -- that what
really is needed to ensure freedom for the rest of us is
to round up all the christians and put them some place where
they can no longer bother anyone. Preferably a gas chamber.
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