Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-25 Thread Gabriel Rocha

,[ On Mon, Jul 23, at 03:50PM, Black Unicorn wrote: ]--
| Perhaps we should just designate the funds, payable monthly, for every month
| Choate doesn't post anything to the list?
`[ End Quote ]---

Two ideas on this one; it wouldn't be anywhere as much fun as this
thread has been (ok, maybe not everyone sees it that way) and procmail
really is cheaper. --gabe

-- 
It's not brave, if you're not scared.




Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-24 Thread Sampo Syreeni

On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Black Unicorn wrote:

Perhaps we should just designate the funds, payable monthly, for every month
Choate doesn't post anything to the list?

Coase at work, eh?

Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], gsm: +358-50-5756111
student/math+cs/helsinki university, http://www.iki.fi/~decoy/front




RE: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-24 Thread Phillip H. Zakas


i'd front the expense of the test and a cab fare between his home and the
nearest testing facility (not to exceed $50 total cab fare.) but let's make
this interesting:

1.  Choate will receive a $500 bonus if he scores above 97th percentile (eg.
97th percentile loses, but 97.01th percentile wins.) (I'll pitch in $100 in
prize money, the rest from cpunks?)
2.  ETS scores must be presented in original unmodified form to an approved
cpunks reader within 72 hours of Choate's receipt of official test scores.
3.  Choate pays the EFF $500 for any score less than 85 percentile.  Choate
must send this money via an approved cpunks reader to the EFF to verify the
inevitable transfer of funds.
4.  If the ETS scores aren't received by Choate and cpunks within a
reasonable period of time (not to exceed eight weeks from the day of the
test), Choate will not be eligible for the $500 bonus, and Choate must pay
the EFF $250 as per point 4 above.
5.  If Choate does not take the exam by September 30, 2001 he must pay the
EFF $250 as per point 4 above.

phillip

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Declan McCullagh
 Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 3:19 PM
 To: Petro
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER



 By my count, we now have three or four people willing in principle to
 either chip in or refund the ~$100 cost. Depending on details (we'd
 require full disclosure, of course), Choate could make up to $300 on this,
 after expenses.

 That should be sufficient incentive.

 -Declan


 On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 10:23:11PM -0700, Petro wrote:
  At 9:41 PM -0700 7/22/01, Black Unicorn wrote:
  I will personally refund the money to Mr. Choate when he
 presents a valid ETS
  score report for the test to me or Mr. Sandfort.
 
  Willing to make me the same offer?





Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-24 Thread Declan McCullagh

I'll chip in. But can we increase the incentive, perhaps by boosting
the reward if Choate reaches a certain minimum score?  Hmm.

It shouldn't take long for Choate to take it. Just a few hours, I'd imagine.
Not much work, so there's little reason not to do so.

-Declan


On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 09:41:44PM -0700, Black Unicorn wrote:
 I will personally refund the money to Mr. Choate when he presents a valid ETS
 score report for the test to me or Mr. Sandfort.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Sandy Sandfort [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Cypherpunks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 9:07 PM
 Subject: THE INCHOATE LAWYER
 
 
  C'punks,
 
  Here's an excellent opportunity for our favorite resident buffoon to strut
  his lawyer-wannabe chops.  The next LSAT (Law School Aptitude Test) will be
  administered on October 6, 2001.
 
  Jim, PLEASE take the test.  I'd love to see your test score.  And, hey,
  maybe you'll get a high enough score to tempt you to go to law school
  (unlikely, given your illogical thought processes, but even a blind chicken
  finds a seed now and then).
 
  It's only 96 bucks.  Sign up for the test at:
 
  https://www5.lsac.org/reggie/cgi-bin/r.exe?To=tintro.htmfrom=rint.htm
 
 
   S a n d y
  _
 
  If the law of gravity is fundamental, why can't it be changed
  by Constitutional amendment since it's the primary authority?
 
 W W
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  on + -ation.]




Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-24 Thread Black Unicorn

Perhaps we should just designate the funds, payable monthly, for every month
Choate doesn't post anything to the list?

- Original Message -
From: Riad S. Wahby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER


 Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  By my count, we now have three or four people willing in principle to
  either chip in or refund the ~$100 cost. Depending on details (we'd
  require full disclosure, of course), Choate could make up to $300 on this,
  after expenses.

 Make that total $400.  I'm willing to do my part to shut Choate up.

 :-)

 --
 Riad Wahby
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MIT VI-2/A 2002

 5105






Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-24 Thread Riad S. Wahby

Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 By my count, we now have three or four people willing in principle to
 either chip in or refund the ~$100 cost. Depending on details (we'd
 require full disclosure, of course), Choate could make up to $300 on this,
 after expenses.

Make that total $400.  I'm willing to do my part to shut Choate up.

:-)

--
Riad Wahby
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIT VI-2/A 2002

5105




RE: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-23 Thread Sandy Sandfort

J.A. Terranson wrote:

 Fucking trolls

Thank you sir.  May I have another?


 S a n d y




RE: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-23 Thread Sandy Sandfort

Petro wrote:

   Willing to make me the same offer?

No thanks, you're neither a horse's ass nor an intellectual lightweight like
Jimbo.  No fun there.  :-D


 S a n d y




RE: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-23 Thread Jim Choate


On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:

 And I'll match that amount if Inchoate's LSAT score exceeds mine.  Put up 
 or shut up, Jimbo.

Why? I couldn't give a shit less what your score was on any test. Don't
care what your IQ is either.

What's my motivation? Yours and the black horse petootie clearly have
nothing more than a ad hominim.

You got nothing I want.


 --


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God said, Let Tesla be, and all was light.

  B.A. Behrend

   The Armadillo Group   ,::;::-.  James Choate
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Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-23 Thread Petro

At 9:41 PM -0700 7/22/01, Black Unicorn wrote:
I will personally refund the money to Mr. Choate when he presents a valid ETS
score report for the test to me or Mr. Sandfort.

Willing to make me the same offer? 




RE: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-23 Thread Jim Choate


On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:

 Chicken?

No thanks, I had Pork Chops for dinner.


 --


Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night:
God said, Let Tesla be, and all was light.

  B.A. Behrend

   The Armadillo Group   ,::;::-.  James Choate
   Austin, Tx   /:'/ ``::/|/  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   www.ssz.com.',  `/( e\  512-451-7087
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RE: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-23 Thread Sandy Sandfort

Inchoate blurted:

 I couldn't give a shit less what
 your score was on any test. Don't
 care what your IQ is either.

Of course you do Jimbo, but I guess you already know your limits.

 What's my motivation?

$96 bucks and a good har har on poor old Sandy and arrogant young BU.

 Yours and the black horse petootie
 clearly have nothing more than a
 ad hominim.

 You got nothing I want.

Except a better understanding and use of the English language.  ;-D

The test is on October 6 at the University of Texas at Austin and
Huston-Tillotson College.

The LSAT (Law School Admission Test)
is a half-day standardized test
required for admission to all 197
law schools that are members of the
Law School Admission Council (LSAC).
It provides a standard measure of
reading and verbal reasoning skills...

Reading and verbal reasoning?  Why it should be a walk in the park for a
smart cookie like Jimbo.  [Irony alert.]


 S a n d y




RE: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-23 Thread Sandy Sandfort

Black Unicorn wrote:

 I will refund your registration
 fee in exchange for your valid
 ETS score report.
 ...
 No cost to you.  Put up or shut up.

And I'll match that amount if Inchoate's LSAT score exceeds mine.  Put up or
shut up, Jimbo.


 S a n d y




Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-23 Thread Jim Choate


How bad do you two drones want it? I don't work for free (as any
self-respecting C-A-C-L should respect).

3 months, at say $10k/month sounds fair to stroke your egos.

When I get the check with cash up front you got it.

Put up, or shut up.

(and no, I wouldn't become a fucking lawyer under any circumstances. I got
 more self respect.)

On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Black Unicorn wrote:

 I will personally refund the money to Mr. Choate when he presents a valid ETS
 score report for the test to me or Mr. Sandfort.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Sandy Sandfort [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Cypherpunks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 9:07 PM
 Subject: THE INCHOATE LAWYER
 
 
  C'punks,
 
  Here's an excellent opportunity for our favorite resident buffoon to strut
  his lawyer-wannabe chops.  The next LSAT (Law School Aptitude Test) will be
  administered on October 6, 2001.
 
  Jim, PLEASE take the test.  I'd love to see your test score.  And, hey,
  maybe you'll get a high enough score to tempt you to go to law school
  (unlikely, given your illogical thought processes, but even a blind chicken
  finds a seed now and then).
 
  It's only 96 bucks.  Sign up for the test at:
 
  https://www5.lsac.org/reggie/cgi-bin/r.exe?To=tintro.htmfrom=rint.htm
 
 
   S a n d y
  _
 
  If the law of gravity is fundamental, why can't it be changed
  by Constitutional amendment since it's the primary authority?
 
 W W
 \*\ /*/
 The Road Kill Group |*| |*|
/*|*\ |\-
   (|\((x)\
 -==-||---:
   (|/((x)/
\*|*/ |/-
 |*| |*|
 /*/ \*\
 M M
 
  verbigeration (vuhr-bij-uh-RAY-shun) noun
 
 Obsessive repetition of meaningless words and phrases.
 
  [From Latin verbigerare, to talk, chat, from verbum word + gerere, to carry
  on + -ation.]
 
 


 --


Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night:
God said, Let Tesla be, and all was light.

  B.A. Behrend

   The Armadillo Group   ,::;::-.  James Choate
   Austin, Tx   /:'/ ``::/|/  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   www.ssz.com.',  `/( e\  512-451-7087
   -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-





Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-23 Thread Dr. Evil

 On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
 
  Chicken?
 
 No thanks, I had Pork Chops for dinner.

Wow, finally some entertainment for us on the old c-punk list!  Maybe
they could do a reality TV show based on this.




RE: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-23 Thread Sandy Sandfort

Dr. Evil wrote:

 Wow, finally some entertainment
 for us on the old c-punk list!
 Maybe they could do a reality
 TV show based on this.

Well you know how it is.  Every so often that old case of Schaden-freude
kicks in and I've just gotta tease the monkey.

BTW, do you think poor Jimbo ever gets laid?  (Other than a rare mercy fuck
or when he pays for it, that is).


 S a n d y




Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-23 Thread Steve Thompson


Quoting Dr. Evil ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
  
   Chicken?
  
  No thanks, I had Pork Chops for dinner.
 
 Wow, finally some entertainment for us on the old c-punk list!  Maybe
 they could do a reality TV show based on this.

Yes they could, but who would bother to watch given the amusing side-show in
Italy, for example.


Regards,

Steve

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philosophy of it.  The study of it would belong to abnormal psychology
Religion cannot afford to claim exemption from philosophical enquiry.  If it
attempts to do so on the grounds of sanctity, it can only draw upon itself
suspicion that it is afraid to face the music.''

  -- H. J. Paton, The Modern Predicament




Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-23 Thread measl


On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Petro wrote:

   Willing to make me the same offer? 

Sure.  But you'll have to learn how to read first.

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Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
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THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-22 Thread Sandy Sandfort

C'punks,

Here's an excellent opportunity for our favorite resident buffoon to strut
his lawyer-wannabe chops.  The next LSAT (Law School Aptitude Test) will be
administered on October 6, 2001.

Jim, PLEASE take the test.  I'd love to see your test score.  And, hey,
maybe you'll get a high enough score to tempt you to go to law school
(unlikely, given your illogical thought processes, but even a blind chicken
finds a seed now and then).

It's only 96 bucks.  Sign up for the test at:

https://www5.lsac.org/reggie/cgi-bin/r.exe?To=tintro.htmfrom=rint.htm


 S a n d y
_

If the law of gravity is fundamental, why can't it be changed
by Constitutional amendment since it's the primary authority?

   W W
   \*\ /*/
   The Road Kill Group |*| |*|
  /*|*\ |\-
 (|\((x)\
   -==-||---:
 (|/((x)/
  \*|*/ |/-
   |*| |*|
   /*/ \*\
   M M

verbigeration (vuhr-bij-uh-RAY-shun) noun

   Obsessive repetition of meaningless words and phrases.

[From Latin verbigerare, to talk, chat, from verbum word + gerere, to carry
on + -ation.]




Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-22 Thread Black Unicorn

I will personally refund the money to Mr. Choate when he presents a valid ETS
score report for the test to me or Mr. Sandfort.

- Original Message -
From: Sandy Sandfort [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cypherpunks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 9:07 PM
Subject: THE INCHOATE LAWYER


 C'punks,

 Here's an excellent opportunity for our favorite resident buffoon to strut
 his lawyer-wannabe chops.  The next LSAT (Law School Aptitude Test) will be
 administered on October 6, 2001.

 Jim, PLEASE take the test.  I'd love to see your test score.  And, hey,
 maybe you'll get a high enough score to tempt you to go to law school
 (unlikely, given your illogical thought processes, but even a blind chicken
 finds a seed now and then).

 It's only 96 bucks.  Sign up for the test at:

 https://www5.lsac.org/reggie/cgi-bin/r.exe?To=tintro.htmfrom=rint.htm


  S a n d y
 _

 If the law of gravity is fundamental, why can't it be changed
 by Constitutional amendment since it's the primary authority?

W W
\*\ /*/
The Road Kill Group |*| |*|
   /*|*\ |\-
  (|\((x)\
-==-||---:
  (|/((x)/
   \*|*/ |/-
|*| |*|
/*/ \*\
M M

 verbigeration (vuhr-bij-uh-RAY-shun) noun

Obsessive repetition of meaningless words and phrases.

 [From Latin verbigerare, to talk, chat, from verbum word + gerere, to carry
 on + -ation.]





Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER

2001-07-22 Thread Black Unicorn

I'm not interested in funding your legal education, I'm interested in seeing
your LSAT score.

I will refund your registration fee in exchange for your valid ETS score
report.

What you do with it after that is up to you.

No cost to you.  Put up or shut up.

- Original Message -
From: Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Sandy Sandfort [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER


 How bad do you two drones want it? I don't work for free (as any
 self-respecting C-A-C-L should respect).

 3 months, at say $10k/month sounds fair to stroke your egos.

 When I get the check with cash up front you got it.

 Put up, or shut up.

 (and no, I wouldn't become a fucking lawyer under any circumstances. I got
  more self respect.)