Re: WTC Photos
Agreed that reduced-size images are desirable. One or more of the mirrors are offering those, Parrhesia for example. We elected to initially offer the full size to not limit what can be offered by others and to feed those with terabyte maws. When image downloads jam shut Cryptome, which seems likely soon, we'll de-PATRIOT the bloat. And if I was *nix-savvy what would I need this suck-palace for. Declan wrote: Not sure how *nix-savvy you are, John, but you may want to try out convert. Wrapped in a simple perl or shell script, it'll take care of resizing to some reasonable level. 768x512 is sufficient for most casual viewing purposes, at least until monitor size/quality increases.
Re: WTC Photos
Not sure how *nix-savvy you are, John, but you may want to try out convert. Wrapped in a simple perl or shell script, it'll take care of resizing to some reasonable level. 768x512 is sufficient for most casual viewing purposes, at least until monitor size/quality increases. -Declan On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 11:06:59PM -0700, John Young wrote: We're now tranferring the 72 WTC photos to Cryptome at full resolution, each about 1 MB. Due to the size we would appreciate a few mirrors being set up before we announce to ease the load on our new finicky server. If anyone can handle a collection of about 76MB, send me a message and I will provide a URL for the package when it is ready -- probably in an hour or two. Then the mirrors will be listed with the intro when announced. Brace for a long download of the set unless you got a T1. The intro explains how the crime scene was snapped. The photographer is not named, thank you for not fingering to whoever might be probing. Guiliani is very vindictive about leaks of info about his secret project.
Re: WTC Photos
At 08:53 AM 10/4/2001 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: Not sure how *nix-savvy you are, John, but you may want to try out convert. Wrapped in a simple perl or shell script, it'll take care of resizing to some reasonable level. 768x512 is sufficient for most casual viewing purposes, at least until monitor size/quality increases. I built a thumbnail page leading to reduced-JPG-quality images from John's files; that's online at http://www.parrhesia.com/wtc100301/, with a temporary mirror at http://daisy.parrhesia.com/wtc100301/. That was finished last night, but my mails back forth with John to coordinate the mirror were delayed by the need for some sleep. I left the image size alone because I couldn't find a good way to get convert or mogrify to do height/width-proportional scaling; maybe my fast read of the man page failed. -- Greg Broiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have found and closed the thing you watch us with. -- New Delhi street kids
Re: WTC Photos
Virtually everyone who visits the WTC site reports the same effect: they are astonished by the scale of the devastation, utterly beyond from what they have seen in photos and on TV. Then they take pictures, and guess what: they are no different from anyone else's pictures. Pictures show a tiny window into the scene; but you have to be there in 360 degree reality to get the full impact. John seems to have experienced the same thing. His memories are overlayed onto the photos, making them for him part of a larger reality. But to a viewer, they are no different from what we have seen from the other news media. They just show broken metal. You can get the same thing at the local junkyard.
WTC photos - broken metal, broken hearts
At 11:34 AM 10/4/01 -0500, you wrote: Virtually everyone who visits the WTC site reports the same effect: news media. They just show broken metal. You can get the same thing at the local junkyard. not if you ever lived in new york, ate lunch innumerable times in the courtyard below the towers, watched the pink and blue sunrise reflect off them as you took a dawn ferry with your lover, watched the city glisten from a quarter-mile up in the sky, felt your stomach flutter in vertigo at the sheer size of the towers against the clouds standing at the base looking up ... We are in tears looking at the cracked city. You were never there, or you have no soul.
Re: WTC Photos
John was busy playing war tourist, and as any journalist who has covered a conflict will tell you, war tourists are some of the lower forms of life one can encounter. Think pornographer with a flack jacket. John shouldn't have been walking inside the crime scene. The cops treated him better than they should have. JDII John seems to have experienced the same thing. His memories are overlayed onto the photos, making them for him part of a larger reality. But to a viewer, they are no different from what we have seen from the other news media. They just show broken metal. You can get the same thing at the local junkyard. Insert the usual disclaimer here. Key ID: 0x8EF048F5 4093 Bit DH/DSS Fingerprint: CC8F 8D2C E1A3 6555 7438 B456 D00E A83C 8EF0 48F5
RE: WTC Photos
John Doe Number Two wrote: John shouldn't have been walking inside the crime scene. Why not? The cops treated him better than they should have. How should they have treated him? S a n d y
Re: WTC Photos
Dr. Evil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : This brings to mind something which would be a very cool project: Have a digital camera that public key encrypts the photos before storing them. Obviously the private key would be stored in some other safe place, so if the camera is stolen, no one can see what the photographs are. I'm sure Canon will never add this feature, but someday soon these things may be running Linux and may be hackable. Anyway, I can't wait to see the photos. Most of these things are SOCs based on standard 32-bit CPU's with specialized peripherals for CCD, LCD, pixel processing. Often they're using conventional RTOSes like VxWorks, pSOS, Nucleus. Most of them include some mechanism for updating the application SW in FLASH. That's where you might start disassembly. If the camera of interest is using an SOC that is not proprietary you can probably get data sheets from the Si manufacturer. They're definitely hackable. The BIG PROBLEM as with everything else is how to find the time to do the fun stuff? I think it would be cool to have a high quality CCD front end that could be used as an add-on to an iPAQ. Use a microdrive for storage, store everything in Bayer format(fast), do the post pocessing later or in the background. An iPAQ could handle the control of a front end and you could do whatever you want with the files. Mike
Re: WTC Photos
,[ On Thu, Oct 04, at 12:51PM, John Doe Number Two wrote: ]-- | John was busy playing war tourist, and as any journalist who has covered a | conflict will tell you, war tourists are some of the lower forms of life one | can encounter. John was playing someone who was in the area and was mesmerized by the destruction. | Think pornographer with a flack jacket. By and by, not what John seems to have been doing, I dont see John going out of his way to get pictures in a war zone. I do see John going into the area, because he was told he couldnt and he saw a clear oportunity to go in with little hassle (as far as going in goes) on his part) | John shouldn't have been walking inside the crime scene. The cops treated | him better than they should have. The Cops(tm) should have actually done their job and guarded the crime scene effectively, that they failed to do so is not John's problem. Arresting him for picture taking, when it is not a crime in the book is a tad preposterous in my book, have they arrested any of the people who took pictures and sold them to CNN? I think not... How about the amateur camera men who sold their tapes to the networks and even got to go on TV as talk show guests? And how about destroying the pictures? Hey, if he was going to be arrested, why destroy the evidence of the crime? If the arrest was truly legitimate, wouldnt it make sense to simply keep the memory card as evidence ? It was simple harrassment, they know the photo ban wont stand a try at court... --Gabe PS- this is the shit, I wasnt there anyway, so my opinions are just that line -- It's not brave, if you're not scared.
WTC Photos
We're now tranferring the 72 WTC photos to Cryptome at full resolution, each about 1 MB. Due to the size we would appreciate a few mirrors being set up before we announce to ease the load on our new finicky server. If anyone can handle a collection of about 76MB, send me a message and I will provide a URL for the package when it is ready -- probably in an hour or two. Then the mirrors will be listed with the intro when announced. Brace for a long download of the set unless you got a T1. The intro explains how the crime scene was snapped. The photographer is not named, thank you for not fingering to whoever might be probing. Guiliani is very vindictive about leaks of info about his secret project.
