Re: spam blacklists and lne CDR

[Roy M. Silvernail]

On Wednesday 27 August 2003 11:52, Eric Murray wrote:
> Hi.  The last couple days I've gotten a lot of mail bounces from cpunks
> subscribers who are blocking lne.com because it's on the osirusoft spam
> "blacklist".  There is no way to get off this list; in fact the site
> appears to be down. 

Down, indeed.  In fact, it's gone.

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/27/0214238&mode=nested&tid=111&tid=126

This caused me to have to polish my SpamAssassin rules a bit to remove the 
Osirusoft contribution to scoring.  Gotta love email.  Monday, I had to add 
an alternate port to my hosted mailserver to get around the new Fuse.net 
policy of blocking outbound port 25.  I just hope they don't start blocking 
inbound 22.  That would be bad.

earthstation 5

[Major Variola (ret.)]

>>Ras says that once the privacy features are fully utilized by the
end-use then no one in the world can figure out who you are.<<

Right.  And I bet you can get a good deal on a Hamas leader's used
cell-phone...


>>Despite what Ras might say about ES5, there is a large element in the
P2P community that question the claims made by Ras. Some even go as far
as to suggest conspiracy theories about the reason for ES5's existence.
Ras's view is that he understands why people may view a middle eastern
company in this light, given the current political climate in that area,
but was obviously quick to dismiss any hidden motive. <<

"Trust us"

If you wanted to plant a trojan on a lot of machines, wouldn't free
movies be
a great way to do so?

They could open source their code, and still have a biz model, since
they
run central servers (until the MPAA DoS's them).

Either they are naif, or they are clever and exploiting others naivite

--
"A person may act psychotic to 'protect' himself from the conscious
awareness that he really is psychotic" ---Charles V Ford, MD
CNS News Aug 2003 p 51

spam blacklists and lne CDR

[Eric Murray]

Hi.  The last couple days I've gotten a lot of mail bounces from cpunks
subscribers who are blocking lne.com because it's on the osirusoft spam
"blacklist".  There is no way to get off this list; in fact the site
appears to be down.  Lne.com doesn't send spam; I don't know why we are on
this list.  My guess is that it's becase we're listed on a couple other
"extreme" blacklists that blacklist entire networks that are owned by
ISPs that the list operator does not like.

If you or your ISP uses this blacklist, I have no choice but to drop
you from the lne cdr lest my mailbox drown in reject messages.

I have mixed feelings about blacklists-- I've had to implement one
here so we didn't drown in spam and it seems to work reasonably well.
But lists that 1) don't let you get off and 2) list sites to pressure
them to change ISPs don't get much respect from me, and neither do the
ISPs that blindly use them.

Eric

Re: [cta@hcsin.net: Re: CNN: 'Explores Possibility that Power Outage is Related to Internet Worm']

[Sunder]

Indeed:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0334/barrett.php
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0334/mondo1.php
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0334/cotts.php


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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Ben Laurie wrote:

> Yeah, ridiculous. So who remembers what caused the last major power
> outage in NY? (Hint: it wasn't _one_ lightning strike).

Re: Slashdot | Florida Proposes Taxing Local LANs (fwd)

[Bill Stewart]

At 08:54 AM 08/26/2003 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote:
>   I don't get it -- exactly what do they think they would be taxing?
>9% of what? The bits and bytes that flow thru? 
>The owners already paid a sales tax on the hardware, 
>or is this like a yearly property tax?
>Bizarre!

The standard joke about how you tell a computer salesman
from a used car salesman is that the car salesman
knows when he's lying.  These incompetents like taxing things,
but if they don't know what they technology is about,
they *really* *really* shouldn't propose special taxes 
on it until they know how to count the objects they want to tax.

A LAN isn't just hardware (which as you say the
purchasers buy sales tax on), it's also the labor
involved in installing it (which they've already
charged income tax on, if it was explicitly paid for)
and the labor involved in operating it
(which also gets income tax collected on it.)
And the prices of any of the hardware except the wire
keeps dropping rapidly.  In the last 15 years,
we've gone from $2000 1-megabit 1baseT hubs
to $20 100-meg hubs, and $1500 VAX and VME cards
to $59 GigE cards and $5 100baseT cards.

And how do you count the interface cards that are
built in to most PCs these days?
And does Wireless count as a LAN?  
And if it does, can you add a directional antenna
and make it a WAN to avoid the tax?

And is this only for LANs in businesses?  
Or also for LANs at home?  

Or is this really an excuse for the 
LAN Tax Police to go around with scanners
trying to detect people who didn't register their LANs
when they were buying that Cat5 cable at the grocery store,
the way the BBC Police used to go hunting for Brits
who hadn't paid their television taxes?
(Probably not - this seems like a clear case of
incompetence rather than malice - but it *is* the state
where Jeb Bush is governor.)

P2P Run out of Palestinian refugee camp

[Tyler Durden]

Interesting story. They're even streaming Terminator3 from their servers, 
which are also supposedly located in the refugee camp.

http://msn.com.com/2100-1105_2-5063402.html?part=msn&subj=ns&tag=nl

-TD

PS: Saw a Muslim woman walking down Wall Street this morning, wearing a Che 
Guevara t-shirt!

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Re: [cta@hcsin.net: Re: CNN: 'Explores Possibility that Power Outage is Related to Internet Worm']

[Ben Laurie]

Eric Murray wrote:
> Food for thought and grounds for further research:
> 
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> It is ridiculous to accept that a lightning strike could knock 
> out the grid, or the transmission system is over stressed. There 
> are many redundant fault, limit and Voltage-Surge Protection 
> safeguards and related instrumentation and switchgear installed 
> at the distribution centers and sub stations along the Power 
> Grid that would have tripped to prevent or otherwise divert such 
> a major outage. 

Yeah, ridiculous. So who remembers what caused the last major power
outage in NY? (Hint: it wasn't _one_ lightning strike).

-- 
http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html   http://www.thebunker.net/

"There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he
doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff

Re: CDR: "domestic terrorism", fat lazy amerikans & ducks

[Sampo Syreeni]

On 2003-08-25, Major Variola (ret.) uttered:

>As expected, animal and environmental activists are now being called
>terrorists.

In many cases, that's an exaggeration. In some, it isn't. Animal rights
activists don't normally resort to the kinds of violence, say,
anti-abortionists do, but they do systematically disrupt certain sectors
of peaceful commerce, like the fur industry. That sort of terror is
focused enough not to cause the wider public to react, but it does hurt
you very, very badly if you've pegged your livelihood to said industry. At
least around these parts some people have actually met personal bankruptcy
because of the interference.

Few sane people would go with the current anti-terrorism legislation, even
when it's meant to counter real terror. Personally I'd rather see some
anti-gun use legislation rolled back, so that you could teach your
friendly ALF representative a lesson if he's dumb enough to meddle with
your foxhouse.
-- 
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student/math+cs/helsinki university, http://www.iki.fi/~decoy/front
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Re: "domestic terrorism", fat lazy amerikans & ducks

[Steve Furlong]

On Tuesday 26 August 2003 05:23, Bill Stewart wrote:

> Nah - who's afraid of Democrats?

Branch Davidians, perhaps. Elian Gonzales's Florida relatives.

Dems themselves tend to be pathetic wankers, but you gotta admit they're 
adept at using the state's monopoly power on force.

-- 
Steve FurlongComputer Condottiere   Have GNU, Will Travel

"If someone is so fearful that, that they're going to start using
their weapons to protect their rights, makes me very nervous that
these people have these weapons at all!"  -- Rep. Henry Waxman

Re: "domestic terrorism", fat lazy amerikans & ducks

[Sunder]

I caught some of that... I think he means suck in the blowjob sense...
i.e. a good form of suck...  the same it's desirable to have an S.O that
does suck. :^)


--Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos---
 + ^ + :25Kliters anthrax, 38K liters botulinum toxin, 500 tons of   /|\
  \|/  :sarin, mustard and VX gas, mobile bio-weapons labs, nukular /\|/\
<--*-->:weapons.. Reasons for war on Iraq - GWB 2003-01-28 speech.  \/|\/
  /|\  :Found to date: 0.  Cost of war: $800,000,000,000 USD.\|/
 + v + :   The look on Sadam's face - priceless!   
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net 

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, R. A. Hettinga wrote:

> Give him *all* of Ben Stein's money...
> 
> :-).
> 
> But then, later on, he says this...
> 
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:45:55PM -0700, John Young wrote:
> >Markets suck, that's what makes them so appealing to
> >bloodsuckers of addled customers, and moreso to
> >vulture investors.
> 
> I'm sooo confused...