Re: Well, they got what they want...
John Kelsey wrote... I think the reality is a bit different. The random searches won't keep someone who's planning an attack from trying to carry it out, but it may delay their attack, if they made plans based on the old security setup, not the new one. It may also convince them to shift the attack to a new target. --John Well, I think even this is rather optimistic. This morning I took the LIRR into Penn Station, where random searches were being performed (I didn't actually see one). The silly damn thing is that the searches are done -there-, in Penn Station, rather than at the outlying stations. Is that a b-o-m-b, sir? Sure is...KABOOM. And down comes Madison Square Garden and a major transportation hub. And for this silly shit we sacrificed our civil rights?
Re: Well, they got what they want...
sunder wrote: Tyler Durden wrote: In other words, everyone here in NYC knows that we've given up a lot for the sake of the appearence of security, but no one seems to give a damn. I wouldn't say we've given up at all - after all, we've had no choice in the matter. We weren't asked if we wanted to be searched, we weren't asked if we were willing to give up liberty for the appearance of security, we weren't asked if we were ok with atrocities such as the unpatriot act, or the national ID disguised as a standardized driver's license, we weren't asked if we were willing to pay lots of tax dollars to finance more police on every corner and all the toys that they have purchased for these tasks, or the various hollow cement flower pots, and other barricades. Sure we have been asked. We get asked every two years, which means twice already since 9/11. We keep electing the same assholes who gave us the patriot act, and the national ID cards, and the assault weapons ban and all of the Know Your Customer / anti-money-laundering regulations, and the anti-drug laws. We have the power to stop all of this if we choose. GH _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: Well, they got what they want...
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 23, 2005 9:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Well, they got what they want... .. Saw a local security expert on the news, and he stated the obvious: Random earches and whatnot are going to do zero for someone determined, but might deter someone who was thinking about blowing up the A train. In other words, everyone here in NYC knows that we've given up a lot for the sake of the appearence of security, but no one seems to give a damn. I think the reality is a bit different. The random searches won't keep someone who's planning an attack from trying to carry it out, but it may delay their attack, if they made plans based on the old security setup, not the new one. It may also convince them to shift the attack to a new target. --John
