Re: Correction of AP-CIA Disinfo.

2002-12-24 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Dave Howe wrote:

 Not sure about Georgia - must be a fairly common problem though as I found a
 case at Browns Ferry Alabama (1975) where it all went tits up - no radiation

That's it.  I guess everything south of the mason-dixon line is the same
to me :-)  Ooops.

 danger on that one, but they had to manually scram as all the automated
 systems were lost - including the emergency cooling system that they had to
 jury-rig.  Can't find a record of the one I remember on the web anyplace - I
 can find an unrelated note that TMI operators had to go adjust valves and
 take readings in a hot environment, but their exposure badges only showed
 1 REM at worst (with a note that this was approximately three weeks maximum
 allowable intake). Fairly sure it wasn't american though :(
 My references were on paper, not the web, and I *should* still have them. I
 will look about and if I can find them, scan them in for you to take a look
 at :)

Sounds good to me :-)  No new plants have been ordered in the US since
1972, and I think all were completed by 1993 at the latest.  I'd be
suprised if there's any nuke stuff on the web other than French.  They are
way ahead of everyone else!

Patience, persistence, truth,
Dr. mike




Re: Correction of AP-CIA Disinfo.

2002-12-23 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, David Howe wrote:

 It isn't that wildly inaccurate - losing both control rooms would be
 (and has been on at least one occasion) an absolute nightmare. on that
 occasion, technicians had to get a five-year batch of radiation in ten
 minutes by going in, operating *one* valve by hand, then getting the
 hell out before they reached a lethal dose.
 From *that* one they learnt that having two control rooms doesn't do
 jack if you run both sets of wire along the same trays - and have
 flamable insulation on the wires.

If you lose control, the reactor scrams.  A 5 year dose is 7.5 Rem,
about 1/100th the dose of a single chemo treatment.  The only case
of fire on insulation I know of was a reactor in Georgia (USA) where
they were using a candle to find an air leak, and shut down the
reactor because both sets of cables went thru one vent.  1) don't use
candles to measure air flow and 2) don't lay backups in the same tray.
Nobody got any radiation dose from that incident tho.

Patience, persistence, truth,
Dr. mike




Re: Correction of AP-CIA Disinfo.

2002-12-23 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Matthew X wrote:

 The containment vessel may survive a jet impact but the control room and/or
 temporary pools of spent fuel lying outside the containment vessel might
 not survive. A nuclear core without monitored control because everything
 outside the containment vessel is incinerated can cause a modern day China
 Syndrome or Chernobyl disaster.

Bwah haha ha ha heee  China syndrome huh?  go watch jane in
barberella, you'll learn more physics.  This is what i get for bypassing
the kill file :-)  but it is mighty funny!

Patience, persistence, truth,
Dr. mike