Re: [darktable-dev] cannot desaturate after split toning is used

2020-03-16 Thread Jason Polak
I'm going to agree with this one. It makes a lot of sense to first
desaturation with monochrome and then do split-toning. It's much easier
to feel out what the end result will be in this order.

Jason

On 2020-03-16 6:24 a.m., Pascal Obry wrote:
> Le lundi 16 mars 2020 à 08:43 +, simon brown a écrit :
>> Understood. I can indeed solve the issue by reordering the modules.  
>>
>> I would argue though that if monochrome (and perhaps any of the
>> saturation sliders) doesn't actually desaturate the image then it's
>> going to confuse a lot of users.  
> 
> Well split-toning is to do a "coloration" of light and dark tones from
> a monochrome image (and this well before digital pictures). So I would
> argue that if you don't want colors in your image don't use split-
> toning.
> 
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Re: [darktable-dev] cannot desaturate after split toning is used

2020-03-16 Thread Pascal Obry
Le lundi 16 mars 2020 à 08:43 +, simon brown a écrit :
> Understood. I can indeed solve the issue by reordering the modules.  
> 
> I would argue though that if monochrome (and perhaps any of the
> saturation sliders) doesn't actually desaturate the image then it's
> going to confuse a lot of users.  

Well split-toning is to do a "coloration" of light and dark tones from
a monochrome image (and this well before digital pictures). So I would
argue that if you don't want colors in your image don't use split-
toning.

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Re: [darktable-dev] cannot desaturate after split toning is used

2020-03-16 Thread simon brown
Understood. I can indeed solve the issue by reordering the modules.

I would argue though that if monochrome (and perhaps any of the saturation
sliders) doesn't actually desaturate the image then it's going to confuse a
lot of users.  I think the desaturate process is a fairly well understood,
expected behaviour so changing its semantics is a big step!  Just my
perspective as a new user.

Best wishes

Simon

On Mon, 16 Mar 2020, 07:45 Pascal Obry,  wrote:

>
> Others have already answered about the module ordering.
>
> But to me this issue is in what you want to do. A simple way can be to
> use less saturated colors in split-toning. The other solution is to
> lesser the fusion of the split toning module.
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [darktable-dev] cannot desaturate after split toning is used

2020-03-16 Thread Pascal Obry


Others have already answered about the module ordering.

But to me this issue is in what you want to do. A simple way can be to
use less saturated colors in split-toning. The other solution is to
lesser the fusion of the split toning module.

Regards,

-- 
  Pascal Obry /  Magny Les Hameaux (78)

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  http://www.obry.net

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