Re: [darktable-dev] Geotagging module not working with dates < 1970-01-01

2021-11-13 Thread Peter Harde

Hi Philippe,

here are the results of the pending tests :

 * darkroom -> pattern for image information line :
   $(EXIF_DAY).$(EXIF_MONTH).$(EXIF_YEAR)    •
   $(EXIF_HOUR):$(EXIF_MINUTE):$(EXIF_SECOND)   •   $(FILE_NAME) •  
   $(MAKER) $(MODEL)   •   $(LENS)   •   $(EXIF_EXPOSURE) s •  
   f/$(EXIF_APERTURE)   •   $(EXIF_FOCAL_LENGTH) mm   •   ISO
   $(EXIF_ISO)   •   Sterne: $(RATING_ICONS)   •   Breite/Höhe:
   $(SENSOR_WIDTH) x $(SENSOR_HEIGHT) px   •   Crop: $(CROP_WIDTH) x
   $(CROP_HEIGHT) px   •   OpenCL : $(OPENCL_ACTIVATED) gives the
   result shown in the attached screenshot.
 * ligthtable -> export to
   .../$(EXIF_YEAR)/$(ROLL_NAME)/$(SEQUENCE)-$(FILE_NAME) is working as
   expected, folder "1961" correctly created
 * checked exif information of exported jpeg : "DateTimeOriginal" is
   correct, modifications done with geotagging module correctly considered

so for me it looks like there are no more issues. I support your idea to 
introduce a variable $(EXIF_MSEC) for the use case of images taken in 
burst mode. I agree with you that considering microseconds is not necessary.


Hava a nice day

Peter

Am 13.11.21 um 12:23 schrieb Philippe Weyland:

Hi Peter,
Thanks for testing.
In the import process, exif time reading may suffer some limitation 
due to epoch 0 as well. Do have your source images such old datetimes ?

Thanks
Philippe



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Re: [darktable-dev] Geotagging module not working with dates < 1970-01-01

2021-11-13 Thread Peter Harde

Am 13.11.21 um 21:34 schrieb Coding Dave:
darktable will never change the raw file but you might want to change 
the date taken exif information.
I absolutely agree, darktable should never change the raw file. That's 
the reason why I use exiftool to rough adjust "DateTimeOriginal" of the 
raw files to the day the original (analog) image was taken *before* 
importing into darktable.
So you might spend huge amount of work with darktable to correct the 
exif data and expect this to have a permanent effect. Now imagine you 
open the raw data with another program, then your tuning of date taken 
exif information does not show up. So it looks like you've lost the work.

I'm aware of this situation.
You will realize that you might have intended to change the exif in 
the image, not the sidecar information.
That's exactly what I'm doing (see above). Where it is reasonable 
darktable is used only to fine tune the *time* information of 
"DateTimeOriginal".


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Re: [darktable-dev] Geotagging module not working with dates < 1970-01-01

2021-11-13 Thread Coding Dave
I believe this is the right approach: darktable will never change the raw
file but you might want to change the date taken exif information. So you
might spend huge amount of work with darktable to correct the exif data and
expect this to have a permanent effect. Now imagine you open the raw data
with another program, then your tuning of date taken exif information does
not show up. So it looks like you've lost the work. You will realize that
you might have intended to change the exif in the image, not the sidecar
information.

Peter Harde  schrieb am Sa., 13. Nov. 2021,
16:07:

> Hi Philippe,
>
> yes, but I never had problems at import until now. The images of interest
> here are reproductions of negatives or slides, reproduced with a Sony DSLR.
> Of course they have "DateTimeOriginal" of the reproduction date/time
> (2019-2021). Then :
>
>- batch processing with exiftool, changing "DateTimeOriginal" of all
>images originally taken at the same day to -MM-DD 12:00:00 of this day
>- importing images into darktable (all images have "DateTimeOriginal"
>smaller linux epoch 0 at import)
>- selecting / processing / sorting / geotagging (if possible)
>- fine tuning time with geotagging module (if reasonable)
>
> exiftool handles dates before linux epoch 0 without problems and for the
> import module of dt I observe the same.
>
> Best regards
>
> Peter
> Am 13.11.21 um 12:23 schrieb Philippe Weyland:
>
> Hi Peter,
> Thanks for testing.
> In the import process, exif time reading may suffer some limitation due to
> epoch 0 as well. Do have your source images such old datetimes ?
> Thanks
> Philippe
>
>
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Re: [darktable-dev] Geotagging module not working with dates < 1970-01-01

2021-11-13 Thread Peter Harde
After replying to your mail I Just read your feature request 
https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/10398. As said, no 
problems at import, dates before linux epoch 0 show correct 
"OriginalDateTme" in "image information" module just as in the sidecar 
file. For the variables like $(EXIF_YEAR) I don't know. Unfortunately 
I'm not at my computer with the images at the moment, so I can't test. 
Will do this tomorrow and report to you.


Am 13.11.21 um 12:23 schrieb Philippe Weyland:

Hi Peter,
Thanks for testing.
In the import process, exif time reading may suffer some limitation 
due to epoch 0 as well. Do have your source images such old datetimes ?

Thanks
Philippe


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Re: [darktable-dev] Geotagging module not working with dates < 1970-01-01

2021-11-13 Thread Peter Harde

Hi Philippe,

yes, but I never had problems at import until now. The images of 
interest here are reproductions of negatives or slides, reproduced with 
a Sony DSLR. Of course they have "DateTimeOriginal" of the reproduction 
date/time (2019-2021). Then :


 * batch processing with exiftool, changing "DateTimeOriginal" of all
   images originally taken at the same day to -MM-DD 12:00:00 of
   this day
 * importing images into darktable (all images have "DateTimeOriginal"
   smaller linux epoch 0 at import)
 * selecting / processing / sorting / geotagging (if possible)
 * fine tuning time with geotagging module (if reasonable)

exiftool handles dates before linux epoch 0 without problems and for the 
import module of dt I observe the same.


Best regards

Peter

Am 13.11.21 um 12:23 schrieb Philippe Weyland:

Hi Peter,
Thanks for testing.
In the import process, exif time reading may suffer some limitation 
due to epoch 0 as well. Do have your source images such old datetimes ?

Thanks
Philippe



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[darktable-dev] Help translate the User Manual!

2021-11-13 Thread Mica Semrick

It'd be awesome to have a few more languages translated for the 3.8 release!

The web app we use to translate is here: 
https://weblate.pixls.us/projects/darktable/dtdocs/


Thank you to all translators!

-m

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