Re: [darktable-dev] Lighttable: Preload / pre-caching of full previews

[Mica Semrick]

Its all or nothing, you can select which ones you want. Adjust the thumbnail 
size to your liking, and then run dark tables generated cache.

-m

On January 3, 2022 11:29:38 AM PST, Christian Birzer 
 wrote:
>Hello,
>
>you are not alone with this request. I also would like to have a easy 
>way to generate the previews. I'd like to select the images I want to 
>generate and then hit a button or menu entry to generate the full size 
>preview for these. Then you could ctrl-a in your last import, start 
>generation, drink a coffee and begin sorting your pictures.
>
>Doing this with an external tool works, but is not so convenient, of 
>course. And I don't know how to select the images that shall be 
>recalculated. It's not required to regenerate all thumbnails, just the 
>last import to work faster with them.
>
>
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>Am 03.01.2022 um 18:30 schrieb Jørn Villesen Christensen:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> First off: Thank you for a great application. I enjoy using darktable 
>> very much, and I feel that (with the latest 3.8) it got both better 
>> and faster on my machine. Thank you! :-)
>>
>> I have a feature request, though. If it is already implemented, then 
>> maybe I need a pointer to a place in the documentation :-D But, the 
>> request is: The ability (within lighttable mode) to enable preload / 
>> pre-caching of full previews.
>>
>> To put some more words on my work situation: When I am culling images 
>> in lighttable mode, I go to full preview mode (shortcut 'w' or 'f') 
>> and flick through the images. Whenever darktable encounters a "new" 
>> image, it takes a second to render a full screen preview (or more if I 
>> have already done some edits). It then caches it so the next time 
>> (within same session) I show that image, it is shown immediately. This 
>> delay, however, is a bit annoying when I flick through the images for 
>> comparison. I therefor often find myself scrolling fast 10 to 20 
>> images ahead, triggering a preview-generation, for then to go back to 
>> "start" and actually viewing the images.
>>
>> I would love it, if i did not have to do the little scroll back and 
>> forth dance, but that darktable would just start generating previews 
>> whenever I went into full preview mode.
>>
>> I know there are some open questions (How many previews to generate? 
>> What happens if the cached images hits the cache limit? What then when 
>> you zoom in on a photo?) which I would be happy to discuss, but first 
>> step would be to check in whether a) I am the only one with this 
>> request? b) Is this already implemented (and I just haven't found the 
>> feature)?
>>
>> BR
>> Jørn
>>
>>
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Fwd: [darktable-dev] Was it always like this?

[Bruce Williams]

Well, don't I just feel like a clown?
Yep, you guys are correct the scroll bar IS actually there. Must have
been having a senior moment. Apologies! :)
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From: Dimitri Gathy 
Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Was it always like this?
To: Bruce Williams 


"to make the vertical scrollbar appear" They are always on the left or on
the right of the Dt windows. They follow what is in the bottom. if it's
with osx, there are problems.

Le lun. 3 janv. 2022 à 11:53, Bruce Williams  a écrit :

> Hi devs,
> I just noticed something and wasn't sure if this behaviour has always
> existed, or if it is something that has slipped through the cracks with 3.8.
> I was in darkroom view, had the filmstrip hidden, and the export module
> expanded.
> See www.understandingdarktable.com/devs/3.8-no-filmstrip.png
> Then, when I activated the filmstrip, the bottom of the export module got
> clipped off (can't see the export button).
> See www.understandingdarktable.com/devs/3.8-with-filmstrip.png
> Is there any way to make the vertical scrollbar appear in such a case, and
> force the modules (whether left or right side is irrelevant) to scroll up a
> bit?
> If this IS a bug, let me know, and I'll open a ticket on github.
> Cheers,
> Bruce Williams
> --
> Shutters Inc podcast , the world's
> best-loved photography podcast
>
> Understanding darktable
>  on youtube
>
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Re: [darktable-dev] Lighttable: Preload / pre-caching of full previews

[Christian Birzer]

Hello,

you are not alone with this request. I also would like to have a easy 
way to generate the previews. I'd like to select the images I want to 
generate and then hit a button or menu entry to generate the full size 
preview for these. Then you could ctrl-a in your last import, start 
generation, drink a coffee and begin sorting your pictures.


Doing this with an external tool works, but is not so convenient, of 
course. And I don't know how to select the images that shall be 
recalculated. It's not required to regenerate all thumbnails, just the 
last import to work faster with them.



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Am 03.01.2022 um 18:30 schrieb Jørn Villesen Christensen:

Hi there,

First off: Thank you for a great application. I enjoy using darktable 
very much, and I feel that (with the latest 3.8) it got both better 
and faster on my machine. Thank you! :-)


I have a feature request, though. If it is already implemented, then 
maybe I need a pointer to a place in the documentation :-D But, the 
request is: The ability (within lighttable mode) to enable preload / 
pre-caching of full previews.


To put some more words on my work situation: When I am culling images 
in lighttable mode, I go to full preview mode (shortcut 'w' or 'f') 
and flick through the images. Whenever darktable encounters a "new" 
image, it takes a second to render a full screen preview (or more if I 
have already done some edits). It then caches it so the next time 
(within same session) I show that image, it is shown immediately. This 
delay, however, is a bit annoying when I flick through the images for 
comparison. I therefor often find myself scrolling fast 10 to 20 
images ahead, triggering a preview-generation, for then to go back to 
"start" and actually viewing the images.


I would love it, if i did not have to do the little scroll back and 
forth dance, but that darktable would just start generating previews 
whenever I went into full preview mode.


I know there are some open questions (How many previews to generate? 
What happens if the cached images hits the cache limit? What then when 
you zoom in on a photo?) which I would be happy to discuss, but first 
step would be to check in whether a) I am the only one with this 
request? b) Is this already implemented (and I just haven't found the 
feature)?


BR
Jørn


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Re: [darktable-dev] Lighttable: Preload / pre-caching of full previews

[Pascal Obry]

Le lundi 03 janvier 2022 à 19:40 +0100, Jørn Villesen Christensen a
écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I did not know that tool, no, but then again... judging from the 
> documentation, it only generates thumbnails. My feature requests 
> concerns full previews.

Full preview is only one kind of thumbnails, just a larger one.

No magic :)

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Re: [darktable-dev] Lighttable: Preload / pre-caching of full previews

[Jørn Villesen Christensen]

Hi,

I did not know that tool, no, but then again... judging from the 
documentation, it only generates thumbnails. My feature requests 
concerns full previews.


Thank you anyway :-)

~Jørn


On 03/01/2022 18.43, thokster wrote:

Do you know:

https://darktable-org.github.io/dtdocs/en/special-topics/program-invocation/darktable-generate-cache/ 





Am 03.01.22 um 18:30 schrieb Jørn Villesen Christensen:

Hi there,

First off: Thank you for a great application. I enjoy using darktable 
very much, and I feel that (with the latest 3.8) it got both better 
and faster on my machine. Thank you! :-)


I have a feature request, though. If it is already implemented, then 
maybe I need a pointer to a place in the documentation :-D But, the 
request is: The ability (within lighttable mode) to enable preload / 
pre-caching of full previews.


To put some more words on my work situation: When I am culling images 
in lighttable mode, I go to full preview mode (shortcut 'w' or 'f') 
and flick through the images. Whenever darktable encounters a "new" 
image, it takes a second to render a full screen preview (or more if 
I have already done some edits). It then caches it so the next time 
(within same session) I show that image, it is shown immediately. 
This delay, however, is a bit annoying when I flick through the 
images for comparison. I therefor often find myself scrolling fast 10 
to 20 images ahead, triggering a preview-generation, for then to go 
back to "start" and actually viewing the images.


I would love it, if i did not have to do the little scroll back and 
forth dance, but that darktable would just start generating previews 
whenever I went into full preview mode.


I know there are some open questions (How many previews to generate? 
What happens if the cached images hits the cache limit? What then 
when you zoom in on a photo?) which I would be happy to discuss, but 
first step would be to check in whether a) I am the only one with 
this request? b) Is this already implemented (and I just haven't 
found the feature)?


BR
Jørn


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Re: [darktable-dev] Lighttable: Preload / pre-caching of full previews

[thokster]

Do you know:

https://darktable-org.github.io/dtdocs/en/special-topics/program-invocation/darktable-generate-cache/



Am 03.01.22 um 18:30 schrieb Jørn Villesen Christensen:

Hi there,

First off: Thank you for a great application. I enjoy using darktable 
very much, and I feel that (with the latest 3.8) it got both better 
and faster on my machine. Thank you! :-)


I have a feature request, though. If it is already implemented, then 
maybe I need a pointer to a place in the documentation :-D But, the 
request is: The ability (within lighttable mode) to enable preload / 
pre-caching of full previews.


To put some more words on my work situation: When I am culling images 
in lighttable mode, I go to full preview mode (shortcut 'w' or 'f') 
and flick through the images. Whenever darktable encounters a "new" 
image, it takes a second to render a full screen preview (or more if I 
have already done some edits). It then caches it so the next time 
(within same session) I show that image, it is shown immediately. This 
delay, however, is a bit annoying when I flick through the images for 
comparison. I therefor often find myself scrolling fast 10 to 20 
images ahead, triggering a preview-generation, for then to go back to 
"start" and actually viewing the images.


I would love it, if i did not have to do the little scroll back and 
forth dance, but that darktable would just start generating previews 
whenever I went into full preview mode.


I know there are some open questions (How many previews to generate? 
What happens if the cached images hits the cache limit? What then when 
you zoom in on a photo?) which I would be happy to discuss, but first 
step would be to check in whether a) I am the only one with this 
request? b) Is this already implemented (and I just haven't found the 
feature)?


BR
Jørn


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[darktable-dev] Lighttable: Preload / pre-caching of full previews

[Jørn Villesen Christensen]

Hi there,

First off: Thank you for a great application. I enjoy using darktable 
very much, and I feel that (with the latest 3.8) it got both better and 
faster on my machine. Thank you! :-)


I have a feature request, though. If it is already implemented, then 
maybe I need a pointer to a place in the documentation :-D But, the 
request is: The ability (within lighttable mode) to enable preload / 
pre-caching of full previews.


To put some more words on my work situation: When I am culling images in 
lighttable mode, I go to full preview mode (shortcut 'w' or 'f') and 
flick through the images. Whenever darktable encounters a "new" image, 
it takes a second to render a full screen preview (or more if I have 
already done some edits). It then caches it so the next time (within 
same session) I show that image, it is shown immediately. This delay, 
however, is a bit annoying when I flick through the images for 
comparison. I therefor often find myself scrolling fast 10 to 20 images 
ahead, triggering a preview-generation, for then to go back to "start" 
and actually viewing the images.


I would love it, if i did not have to do the little scroll back and 
forth dance, but that darktable would just start generating previews 
whenever I went into full preview mode.


I know there are some open questions (How many previews to generate? 
What happens if the cached images hits the cache limit? What then when 
you zoom in on a photo?) which I would be happy to discuss, but first 
step would be to check in whether a) I am the only one with this 
request? b) Is this already implemented (and I just haven't found the 
feature)?


BR
Jørn


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Re: [darktable-dev] Was it always like this?

[Bernhard]

Hi Bruce,

not a dev, but just tested on Debian 10 and dt 3.8 from OBS: works as expected.
Strg-F to hide/unhide the film strip may hide the export button but the scroll 
bar also shortens and lets me scroll down again to see the export button.

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Bruce Williams schrieb am 03.01.22 um 11:52:

Hi devs,
I just noticed something and wasn't sure if this behaviour has always existed, 
or if it is something that has slipped through the cracks with 3.8.
I was in darkroom view, had the filmstrip hidden, and the export module 
expanded.
See www.understandingdarktable.com/devs/3.8-no-filmstrip.png 

Then, when I activated the filmstrip, the bottom of the export module got 
clipped off (can't see the export button).
See www.understandingdarktable.com/devs/3.8-with-filmstrip.png 

Is there any way to make the vertical scrollbar appear in such a case, and 
force the modules (whether left or right side is irrelevant) to scroll up a bit?
If this IS a bug, let me know, and I'll open a ticket on github.
Cheers,
Bruce Williams
--
Shutters Inc podcast , the world's 
best-loved photography podcast

Understanding darktable 
 on youtube

e-mail  | Twitter  | LinkedIn 
 | Facebook  | Soundcloud 
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[darktable-dev] Was it always like this?

[Bruce Williams]

Hi devs,
I just noticed something and wasn't sure if this behaviour has always
existed, or if it is something that has slipped through the cracks with 3.8.
I was in darkroom view, had the filmstrip hidden, and the export module
expanded.
See www.understandingdarktable.com/devs/3.8-no-filmstrip.png
Then, when I activated the filmstrip, the bottom of the export module got
clipped off (can't see the export button).
See www.understandingdarktable.com/devs/3.8-with-filmstrip.png
Is there any way to make the vertical scrollbar appear in such a case, and
force the modules (whether left or right side is irrelevant) to scroll up a
bit?
If this IS a bug, let me know, and I'll open a ticket on github.
Cheers,
Bruce Williams
--
Shutters Inc podcast , the world's
best-loved photography podcast

Understanding darktable
 on youtube

e-mail  | Twitter  |
LinkedIn  | Facebook
 | Soundcloud 
| Quora 

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