Re: [darktable-dev] Re: RAW presets get applied to JPG, PNG and TIF
Am Donnerstag, 26. Mai 2016, 09:00:00 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > Am 24.05.2016 um 07:18 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > > I will do more testing the next days. > > After a few more tests it is clear that I can not change the basecurve > preset "test" after it is created. This is true not only for the format > value, but also for the filter when it should be applied. The preset is > writeprotected. > > This bevahour is different from any other module presets, like for the > sharpen module for example. I can edit those presets just fine. Only > basecurve presets are affected. We have some ideas what might be going on. Please file a bug report, I will add my thoughts there. Fixing it won't be that easy, it's a limitation of how we handle presets internally. But that doesn't mean it's not a bug of course. > Matthias Tobias signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [darktable-dev] Re: RAW presets get applied to JPG, PNG and TIF
Am Freitag, 20. Mai 2016, 18:14:30 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > Am 20.05.2016 um 12:10 schrieb Tobias Ellinghaus: > > echo 'select name, format, autoapply from presets where > > operation="basecurve";' | sqlite3 ~/.config/darktable/library.db [presets] That doesn't look suspicious. Just to reiterate: - Which of those presets gets applied? - When editing that preset, is any change done to the auto-apply settings remembered? Maybe even try restarting darktable (that shouldn't matter, but who knows what edge cases there are). Note that we are talking about the settings for auto-apply, NOT for the images to show the preset for! - What version of darktable is this exactly? Please show the output of darktable --version Tobias PS: Is anyone else having similar problems? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [darktable-dev] Re: RAW presets get applied to JPG, PNG and TIF
Am Freitag, 20. Mai 2016, 07:32:41 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > Am 20.05.2016 um 07:14 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > > Am 19.05.2016 um 19:30 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > >> Am 19.05.2016 um 19:03 schrieb Tobias Ellinghaus: > >>> and finally those where format is "7", i.e., every image: > > meine Canon 6D|basecurve|7 > > Eizo FS2331|colorout|7 > > Fuji X100|colorin|7 > > Schärfen aus|sharpen|7 > > Sony DSC-RX100M3|lens|7 > > Reinhards Sony RX100M3|basecurve|7 > > Fuji X100|lens|7 > > stark|rawdenoise|7 Could you please show the output of echo 'select name, format, autoapply from presets where operation="basecurve";' | sqlite3 ~/.config/darktable/library.db I was unable to reproduce your problem locally, maybe there is something else going on. [...] Tobias signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [darktable-dev] Re: RAW presets get applied to JPG, PNG and TIF
Am Freitag, 20. Mai 2016, 07:32:41 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > Am 20.05.2016 um 07:14 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > > Am 19.05.2016 um 19:30 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > >> Am 19.05.2016 um 19:03 schrieb Tobias Ellinghaus: > >>> and finally those where format is "7", i.e., every image: > > meine Canon 6D|basecurve|7 > > Eizo FS2331|colorout|7 > > Fuji X100|colorin|7 > > Schärfen aus|sharpen|7 > > Sony DSC-RX100M3|lens|7 > > Reinhards Sony RX100M3|basecurve|7 > > Fuji X100|lens|7 > > stark|rawdenoise|7 > >>> > >>> You should go through the list of presets in the preferences and check > >>> those.>> > >> Interesting. But how come? I am only using the GUI. No manipulation of > >> the db with sqllite or such. > >> > >> I tested with the basecurve preset "meine Canon 6D". Only "RAW" is > >> checked as Format but still your sql command shows: > >> > >> meine Canon 6D|basecurve|7 > >> > >> I can make any change to the Format checkboxes including unchecking > >> everything the settings are not change. Next time I start DT only "RAW" > >> is checked and your sql command gives the same result: > >> > >> "|basecurve|7 > >> > >> What is happening here? > >> > >> Matthias > > > > I can not change the format value with the GUI. I did edit the "meine > > Canon 6D" preset with sqlitebrowser to value "2". That helped to prevent > > that the preset ist applied to PNG files. But then, when I change the > > format checkboxes in the GUI, example: checking all three boxes "normale > > Bilder", "RAW" and "HDR", the value stays at "2". That looks like a bug > > to me. Yes, seems so. We will investigate, thank you for reporting it. I fear that all those features us developers don't use ourselves have more bugs than the rest. :-( > > Matthias [...] > When I check with , the > preset "meine Canon 6D" is NOT listed. Because your's is not writeprotected. Those are just the ones shipped by darktable. You can't edit them and they get re-created on every startup so we are easily able to change them in the future. > Matthias Tobias signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [darktable-dev] Re: RAW presets get applied to JPG, PNG and TIF
Am Donnerstag, 19. Mai 2016, 17:41:15 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > Am 19.05.2016 um 11:02 schrieb Tobias Ellinghaus: > > echo "select name, operation, format from presets where autoapply=1;" | > > sqlite3 ~/.config/darktable/library.db There we have it. The format column is ORed from these values: 1: ldr (for example JPEG or PNG) 2: raw 4: hdr So you are forcing ldr images to be treated as sRGB: > sRGB std. (PNG, TIF, JPG)|colorin|1 raw files get some treatment (potentially limited by other auto-apply filters): > Entrauschen - 0,5 std|denoiseprofile|2 > Canon 20D|colorin|2 > Canon 6D|colorin|2 > Schärfen (mittel-3)|sharpen|2 > Canon 6D standard|sharpen|2 > Canon EOS-artig|basecurve|2 > Canon EOS-artig, Alternative|basecurve|2 > Nikon-artig|basecurve|2 > Nikon-artige Alternative|basecurve|2 > Sony Alpha-artig|basecurve|2 > Pentax-artig|basecurve|2 > Ricoh-artig|basecurve|2 > Olympus-artig|basecurve|2 > Olympus-artige Alternative|basecurve|2 > Panasonic-artig|basecurve|2 > Leica-artig|basecurve|2 > Kodak EasyShare-artig|basecurve|2 > Konica Minolta-artig|basecurve|2 > Samsung-artig|basecurve|2 > Fujifilm-artig|basecurve|2 > Nokia-artig|basecurve|2 > schärfen|sharpen|2 and finally those where format is "7", i.e., every image: > meine Canon 6D|basecurve|7 > Eizo FS2331|colorout|7 > Fuji X100|colorin|7 > Schärfen aus|sharpen|7 > Sony DSC-RX100M3|lens|7 > Reinhards Sony RX100M3|basecurve|7 > Fuji X100|lens|7 > stark|rawdenoise|7 You should go through the list of presets in the preferences and check those. Tobias signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [darktable-dev] Re: RAW presets get applied to JPG, PNG and TIF
Am Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2016, 21:30:27 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > Am 18.05.2016 um 21:08 schrieb Tobias Ellinghaus: > >>> Please open src/libs/metadata_view.c in a text editor and make sure that > >>> SHOW_FLAGS is defined as 1 (around line 39). Then recompile/install and > >>> check the image information of the PNG. There should be a line "Flags" > >>> now. What does it say for the PNG? > >> > >> It says: Flags 0..l...ap... > >> The same flags are shown for the TIF. > >> > >> Both, PNG and TIF, have been created by DT. > > > > That means that darktable doesn't think those are raw files. So it must be > > something else. Could you upload a sample image exported from darktable > > that shows the wrong behaviour please? > > Here is a small example PNG (800x534) : > https://www.dropbox.com/s/b7t6pufeym70b3q/IMG_4339-800.png?dl=0 That image doesn't make darktable apply any unusual modules for me. So it must be something else. Please run the following command (it's one line): echo "select name, operation, format from presets where autoapply=1;" | sqlite3 ~/.config/darktable/library.db and show the output > Matthias Tobias signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [darktable-dev] Re: RAW presets get applied to JPG, PNG and TIF
Am Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2016, 20:39:41 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > Am 18.05.2016 um 11:05 schrieb Tobias Ellinghaus: > > Am Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2016, 08:05:35 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > >> Am 17.05.2016 um 22:44 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > >>> Am 17.05.2016 um 10:36 schrieb Tobias Ellinghaus: > Am Samstag, 14. Mai 2016, 15:34:41 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > > Hi, > > > > I am struggling with my presets (DT 2.0.4). I have a basecurve preset > > that > > is applied to all my RAW (CR2). Unfortunately the same preset is also > > applied to the exported PNG, JPG and TIF when I import them. How can I > > prevent that? > > > > I found this issue report https://redmine.darktable.org/issues/9540 > > which is describing exactly my problem. It is from 2013 and the last > > comment is that it is fixed. But I can not find it. > > > > My basecurve presets are always applied. The attached screenshot shows > > the > > preset dialog. I have only selected "Format: RAW" but that does not > > help. > > It might be that the exported files look like a raw to darktable for > some > reason, maybe because of embedded metadata copied over from the > original > file. > > Do you have a way to compile darktable yourself? That would make it > easier to find out what is happening. > >>> > >>> I do compile myself. > >>> > >>> Matthias > >> > >> What should I test? > > > > Please open src/libs/metadata_view.c in a text editor and make sure that > > SHOW_FLAGS is defined as 1 (around line 39). Then recompile/install and > > check the image information of the PNG. There should be a line "Flags" > > now. What does it say for the PNG? > > It says: Flags 0..l...ap... > The same flags are shown for the TIF. > > Both, PNG and TIF, have been created by DT. That means that darktable doesn't think those are raw files. So it must be something else. Could you upload a sample image exported from darktable that shows the wrong behaviour please? > Matthias Tobias signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [darktable-dev] Re: RAW presets get applied to JPG, PNG and TIF
Am Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2016, 08:05:35 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > Am 17.05.2016 um 22:44 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > > Am 17.05.2016 um 10:36 schrieb Tobias Ellinghaus: > >> Am Samstag, 14. Mai 2016, 15:34:41 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I am struggling with my presets (DT 2.0.4). I have a basecurve preset > >>> that > >>> is applied to all my RAW (CR2). Unfortunately the same preset is also > >>> applied to the exported PNG, JPG and TIF when I import them. How can I > >>> prevent that? > >>> > >>> I found this issue report https://redmine.darktable.org/issues/9540 > >>> which is describing exactly my problem. It is from 2013 and the last > >>> comment is that it is fixed. But I can not find it. > >>> > >>> My basecurve presets are always applied. The attached screenshot shows > >>> the > >>> preset dialog. I have only selected "Format: RAW" but that does not > >>> help. > >> > >> It might be that the exported files look like a raw to darktable for some > >> reason, maybe because of embedded metadata copied over from the original > >> file. > >> > >> Do you have a way to compile darktable yourself? That would make it > >> easier to find out what is happening. > > > > I do compile myself. > > > > Matthias > > What should I test? Please open src/libs/metadata_view.c in a text editor and make sure that SHOW_FLAGS is defined as 1 (around line 39). Then recompile/install and check the image information of the PNG. There should be a line "Flags" now. What does it say for the PNG? > One more important info regarding this problem: > > It is only the basecurve preset which is applied to PNG/TIF files. Presets > like for denoise and sharpening are not applied automatically although they > have a similar filter. > > See the two screenshots. History stack was removed before opening the > pictures in darkroom: (1) Modules applied to PNG file (2) Modules applied > to CR2 files > > > Matthias > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
