Re: [darktable-user] Upgrading to GTK 3.20 ruins all menus (at least in darkroom)

[praeriehund]

I just downgraded manually to version 3.18.9-1 on ArchLinux. Darktable is now 
fine for me. But this shouldn't be a long term solution.

On Friday, April 15, 2016 12:38:51 PM CEST Marc Cousin wrote:
> Or simply install downgrade : https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/downgrade
> 
> On 15/04/2016 11:36, Tuấn Kiệt Hồ wrote:
> > You could try downgrading to GNOME 3.18 by setting your mirror to Arch
> > Linux Archive on April 8th 2016 (more info:
> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_Archive)
> > 
> > On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 4:27 PM,   wrote:
> >> Hi guys,
> >> 
> >> any updates on this topic. Working on ArchLinux with latest Gtk and
> >> darktable is more or less unusable with the broken appearance.
> >> 
> >> Regards
> >> Karsten
> >> 
> >> On Monday, April 11, 2016 9:01:25 PM CEST Normand Fortier wrote:
> >>> Of course, silly me, I do not get the warnings after correcting the css
> >>> file... So no more warnings but appearance does not change.
> >>> 
> >>> Le 2016-04-11 20:47, Owen Mays a écrit :
>  I get the warnings when I launch darktable (no options) from the
>  command line. The warnings show up in the terminal window.
>  
>  -Owen
>  
>  On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Normand Fortier
>  
>  > 
wrote:
>  A silly question, but how did you get the warnings? I just
>  upgraded to gtk 3.20 (archlinux), if I start darktable with -d all
>  I do not get the warnings as part of the output. Anyway I tried
>  modifying /usr/share/darktable/darktable.css to correct the
>  warnings, but the appearance of darktable does not change (still
>  has the large buttons on top).
>  
>  Normand
>  
>  Le 2016-04-10 14:23, Owen Mays a écrit :
>  I would be happy to work on a solution if someone could point
>  me to a gtk/css reference or guide. I found this:
>  https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkWidget.html#GtkWidge
>  t--> > s-wide-separators but all it says is
>  
>  "|GtkWidget:wide-separators| has been deprecated since version
>  3.20 and should not be used in newly-written code. Use CSS
>  properties on the separator elements to style separators; the
>  value of this style property is ignored."
>  
>  Can anyone tell me what the buttons on the top of each module
>  are called? (the on/off, presets menu, and reset buttons). It
>  looks like their size has been expanded and is pushing
>  everything else too large.
>  
>  Thanks,
>  
>  Owen
>  
>  On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Pascal Obry      
>  >> wrote:
>  Le dimanche 10 avril 2016 à 12:40 -0500, Owen Mays a écrit 
:
>  > I have created an issue in redmine:
>  http://redmine.darktable.org/issu
>  
>  > es/10990
>  > Let me know if there is more information that would be
>  
>  helpful,
>  
>  or if
>  
>  > there is anything else I can test.
>  
>  Nothing more until either someone with Gtk 3.20 step in or
>  my
>  GNU/Debian sid move to 3.20 :)
>  
>  --
>  
>    Pascal Obry /  Magny Les Hameaux (78)
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Re: [darktable-user] Darktable GUI language

[praeriehund]

LC_ALL should not be set, output of locale:

LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=

Regards
Karsten

On Friday, April 15, 2016 2:37:17 PM CEST Ari Makela wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> do you have LC_ALL set? It overrides other locale environment variables.
> I.e. what does command "locale" print out?
> 
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:58 PM,  wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> > 
> > I know that this was already discussed but I am still struggling settings
> > the
> > language of the darkatble GUI via commandline.
> > The installation of my ArchLinux is more or less complete English but I
> > would
> > like to start a few applications in German language.
> > 
> > I'm using a script to start darktable with following content:
> > #!/bin/bash
> > 
> > ln -s /home/karsten/.config/darktable_on-location /home/karsten/.config/
> > darktable
> > ln -s /data/symlinks/mipmaps-darktable-on-location  /home/karsten/.cache/
> > darktable
> > export LANG=de_DE
> > darktable
> > rm /home/karsten/.config/darktable
> > rm /home/karsten/.cache/darktable
> > 
> > I tested with
> > LANG=de
> > LANG=german
> > LANG=de_DE.utf8
> > 
> > Always the GUI is English. The output of locale -a shows me that the
> > german
> > locale is available:
> > C
> > de_DE
> > de_DE@euro
> > de_DE.iso88591
> > de_DE.iso885915@euro
> > de_DE.utf8
> > deutsch
> > en_US
> > en_US.iso88591
> > en_US.utf8
> > german
> > POSIX
> > 
> > Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
> > 
> > Thanks an regards
> > Karsten
> > 
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Re: [darktable-user] Upgrading to GTK 3.20 ruins all menus (at least in darkroom)

[johannes hanika]

hi

On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Michael Below  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm just a simple user, but I feel it would be a wrong direction for 
> darktable to focus on widget-writing. IMHO this is an issue of proper 
> packaging: If darktable right now depends on GTK <= 3.18, a distribution 
> shouldn't do the upgrade to GTK 3.20 without warnings that something might 
> break.
>
> I think the widget design got a lot better in the transition to GTK 3. Making 
> good widgets takes a lot of effort, and that doesn't pay off in a single 
> program. Instead of specific widgets I'd like to see more development in 
> stuff that is photography-specific, be it dual monitor setups (maybe have all 
> the darkroom tabs show on the small monitor side by side and the image on the 
> big one?), 30bit color,

funny you should mention 30 bit in this context. using opengl + glfw +
https://github.com/memononen/nanovg should have 30-bit out of the box
and gpu accelerated drawing. we're only using a tiny subset of
widgets, and the ones we really need we draw ourselves already
(tonecurve, equalizer, etc). at some point it just becomes a question
of what is less work for us in the long run.

-jo

> or cool image processing algorithms like the perspective correction.
>
> Cheers
> Michael
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: johannes hanika [mailto:hana...@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. April 2016 11:31
> An: praerieh...@kako-media.de
> Cc: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
> Betreff: Re: [darktable-user] Upgrading to GTK 3.20 ruins all menus (at least 
> in darkroom)
>
> hi,
>
> i guess you could bother the gtk guys about that, but i doubt it would do 
> anything. i'm tempted to say that doing it the blender way and just writing 
> our own widgets may be a good idea and less work in the long run.
>
> -jo
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:27 PM,   wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> any updates on this topic. Working on ArchLinux with latest Gtk and
>> darktable is more or less unusable with the broken appearance.
>>
>> Regards
>> Karsten
>>
>> On Monday, April 11, 2016 9:01:25 PM CEST Normand Fortier wrote:
>>> Of course, silly me, I do not get the warnings after correcting the
>>> css file... So no more warnings but appearance does not change.
>>>
>>> Le 2016-04-11 20:47, Owen Mays a écrit :
>>> > I get the warnings when I launch darktable (no options) from the
>>> > command line. The warnings show up in the terminal window.
>>> >
>>> > -Owen
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Normand Fortier
>>> >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > A silly question, but how did you get the warnings? I just
>>> > upgraded to gtk 3.20 (archlinux), if I start darktable with -d all
>>> > I do not get the warnings as part of the output. Anyway I tried
>>> > modifying /usr/share/darktable/darktable.css to correct the
>>> > warnings, but the appearance of darktable does not change (still
>>> > has the large buttons on top).
>>> >
>>> > Normand
>>> >
>>> > Le 2016-04-10 14:23, Owen Mays a écrit :
>>> > I would be happy to work on a solution if someone could point
>>> > me to a gtk/css reference or guide. I found this:
>>> > 
>>> > https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkWidget.html#GtkWidget--> > 
>>> > s-wide-separators but all it says is
>>> >
>>> > "|GtkWidget:wide-separators| has been deprecated since version
>>> > 3.20 and should not be used in newly-written code. Use CSS
>>> > properties on the separator elements to style separators; the
>>> > value of this style property is ignored."
>>> >
>>> > Can anyone tell me what the buttons on the top of each module
>>> > are called? (the on/off, presets menu, and reset buttons). It
>>> > looks like their size has been expanded and is pushing
>>> > everything else too large.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Owen
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Pascal Obry >> >  >> >
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > Le dimanche 10 avril 2016 à 12:40 -0500, Owen Mays a écrit :
>>> > > I have created an issue in redmine:
>>> > http://redmine.darktable.org/issu
>>> >
>>> > > es/10990
>>> > > Let me know if there is more information that would
>>> > be
>>> >
>>> > helpful,
>>> >
>>> > or if
>>> >
>>> > > there is anything else I can test.
>>> >
>>> > Nothing more until either someone with Gtk 3.20 step in or my
>>> > GNU/Debian sid move to 3.20 :)
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> >   Pascal Obry /  Magny Les Hameaux (78)
>>> >
>>> >   The best way to travel is by means of imagination
>>> >
>>> > http://v2p.fr.eu.org
>>> > 

Re: [darktable-user] Upgrading to GTK 3.20 ruins all menus (at least in darkroom)

[Marc Cousin]

Or simply install downgrade : https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/downgrade



On 15/04/2016 11:36, Tuấn Kiệt Hồ wrote:
> You could try downgrading to GNOME 3.18 by setting your mirror to Arch
> Linux Archive on April 8th 2016 (more info:
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_Archive)
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 4:27 PM,   wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> any updates on this topic. Working on ArchLinux with latest Gtk and darktable
>> is more or less unusable with the broken appearance.
>>
>> Regards
>> Karsten
>>
>> On Monday, April 11, 2016 9:01:25 PM CEST Normand Fortier wrote:
>>> Of course, silly me, I do not get the warnings after correcting the css
>>> file... So no more warnings but appearance does not change.
>>>
>>> Le 2016-04-11 20:47, Owen Mays a écrit :
 I get the warnings when I launch darktable (no options) from the
 command line. The warnings show up in the terminal window.

 -Owen

 On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Normand Fortier

 > wrote:
 A silly question, but how did you get the warnings? I just
 upgraded to gtk 3.20 (archlinux), if I start darktable with -d all
 I do not get the warnings as part of the output. Anyway I tried
 modifying /usr/share/darktable/darktable.css to correct the
 warnings, but the appearance of darktable does not change (still
 has the large buttons on top).

 Normand

 Le 2016-04-10 14:23, Owen Mays a écrit :
 I would be happy to work on a solution if someone could point
 me to a gtk/css reference or guide. I found this:
 
 https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkWidget.html#GtkWidget--> >  
s-wide-separators but all it says is

 "|GtkWidget:wide-separators| has been deprecated since version
 3.20 and should not be used in newly-written code. Use CSS
 properties on the separator elements to style separators; the
 value of this style property is ignored."

 Can anyone tell me what the buttons on the top of each module
 are called? (the on/off, presets menu, and reset buttons). It
 looks like their size has been expanded and is pushing
 everything else too large.

 Thanks,

 Owen

 On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Pascal Obry  >> wrote:
 Le dimanche 10 avril 2016 à 12:40 -0500, Owen Mays a écrit :
 > I have created an issue in redmine:
 http://redmine.darktable.org/issu

 > es/10990
 > Let me know if there is more information that would be

 helpful,

 or if

 > there is anything else I can test.

 Nothing more until either someone with Gtk 3.20 step in or my
 GNU/Debian sid move to 3.20 :)

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[darktable-user] Darktable GUI language

[praeriehund]

Hi guys,

I know that this was already discussed but I am still struggling settings the 
language of the darkatble GUI via commandline.
The installation of my ArchLinux is more or less complete English but I would 
like to start a few applications in German language.

I'm using a script to start darktable with following content:
#!/bin/bash

ln -s /home/karsten/.config/darktable_on-location /home/karsten/.config/
darktable
ln -s /data/symlinks/mipmaps-darktable-on-location  /home/karsten/.cache/
darktable
export LANG=de_DE
darktable
rm /home/karsten/.config/darktable
rm /home/karsten/.cache/darktable

I tested with
LANG=de
LANG=german
LANG=de_DE.utf8

Always the GUI is English. The output of locale -a shows me that the german 
locale is available:
C
de_DE
de_DE@euro
de_DE.iso88591
de_DE.iso885915@euro
de_DE.utf8
deutsch
en_US
en_US.iso88591
en_US.utf8
german
POSIX

Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

Thanks an regards
Karsten

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Re: [darktable-user] Upgrading to GTK 3.20 ruins all menus (at least in darkroom)

[Tuấn Kiệt Hồ]

You could try downgrading to GNOME 3.18 by setting your mirror to Arch
Linux Archive on April 8th 2016 (more info:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_Archive)

On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 4:27 PM,   wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> any updates on this topic. Working on ArchLinux with latest Gtk and darktable
> is more or less unusable with the broken appearance.
>
> Regards
> Karsten
>
> On Monday, April 11, 2016 9:01:25 PM CEST Normand Fortier wrote:
>> Of course, silly me, I do not get the warnings after correcting the css
>> file... So no more warnings but appearance does not change.
>>
>> Le 2016-04-11 20:47, Owen Mays a écrit :
>> > I get the warnings when I launch darktable (no options) from the
>> > command line. The warnings show up in the terminal window.
>> >
>> > -Owen
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Normand Fortier
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> > A silly question, but how did you get the warnings? I just
>> > upgraded to gtk 3.20 (archlinux), if I start darktable with -d all
>> > I do not get the warnings as part of the output. Anyway I tried
>> > modifying /usr/share/darktable/darktable.css to correct the
>> > warnings, but the appearance of darktable does not change (still
>> > has the large buttons on top).
>> >
>> > Normand
>> >
>> > Le 2016-04-10 14:23, Owen Mays a écrit :
>> > I would be happy to work on a solution if someone could point
>> > me to a gtk/css reference or guide. I found this:
>> > 
>> > https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkWidget.html#GtkWidget--> >  
>> >s-wide-separators but all it says is
>> >
>> > "|GtkWidget:wide-separators| has been deprecated since version
>> > 3.20 and should not be used in newly-written code. Use CSS
>> > properties on the separator elements to style separators; the
>> > value of this style property is ignored."
>> >
>> > Can anyone tell me what the buttons on the top of each module
>> > are called? (the on/off, presets menu, and reset buttons). It
>> > looks like their size has been expanded and is pushing
>> > everything else too large.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Owen
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Pascal Obry > >  > >
>> > >> wrote:
>> > Le dimanche 10 avril 2016 à 12:40 -0500, Owen Mays a écrit :
>> > > I have created an issue in redmine:
>> > http://redmine.darktable.org/issu
>> >
>> > > es/10990
>> > > Let me know if there is more information that would be
>> >
>> > helpful,
>> >
>> > or if
>> >
>> > > there is anything else I can test.
>> >
>> > Nothing more until either someone with Gtk 3.20 step in or my
>> > GNU/Debian sid move to 3.20 :)
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >   Pascal Obry /  Magny Les Hameaux (78)
>> >
>> >   The best way to travel is by means of imagination
>> >
>> > http://v2p.fr.eu.org
>> > http://www.obry.net
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Re: [darktable-user] Upgrading to GTK 3.20 ruins all menus (at least in darkroom)

[johannes hanika]

hi,

i guess you could bother the gtk guys about that, but i doubt it would
do anything. i'm tempted to say that doing it the blender way and just
writing our own widgets may be a good idea and less work in the long
run.

-jo

On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:27 PM,   wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> any updates on this topic. Working on ArchLinux with latest Gtk and darktable
> is more or less unusable with the broken appearance.
>
> Regards
> Karsten
>
> On Monday, April 11, 2016 9:01:25 PM CEST Normand Fortier wrote:
>> Of course, silly me, I do not get the warnings after correcting the css
>> file... So no more warnings but appearance does not change.
>>
>> Le 2016-04-11 20:47, Owen Mays a écrit :
>> > I get the warnings when I launch darktable (no options) from the
>> > command line. The warnings show up in the terminal window.
>> >
>> > -Owen
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Normand Fortier
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> > A silly question, but how did you get the warnings? I just
>> > upgraded to gtk 3.20 (archlinux), if I start darktable with -d all
>> > I do not get the warnings as part of the output. Anyway I tried
>> > modifying /usr/share/darktable/darktable.css to correct the
>> > warnings, but the appearance of darktable does not change (still
>> > has the large buttons on top).
>> >
>> > Normand
>> >
>> > Le 2016-04-10 14:23, Owen Mays a écrit :
>> > I would be happy to work on a solution if someone could point
>> > me to a gtk/css reference or guide. I found this:
>> > 
>> > https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkWidget.html#GtkWidget--> >  
>> >s-wide-separators but all it says is
>> >
>> > "|GtkWidget:wide-separators| has been deprecated since version
>> > 3.20 and should not be used in newly-written code. Use CSS
>> > properties on the separator elements to style separators; the
>> > value of this style property is ignored."
>> >
>> > Can anyone tell me what the buttons on the top of each module
>> > are called? (the on/off, presets menu, and reset buttons). It
>> > looks like their size has been expanded and is pushing
>> > everything else too large.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Owen
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Pascal Obry > >  > >
>> > >> wrote:
>> > Le dimanche 10 avril 2016 à 12:40 -0500, Owen Mays a écrit :
>> > > I have created an issue in redmine:
>> > http://redmine.darktable.org/issu
>> >
>> > > es/10990
>> > > Let me know if there is more information that would be
>> >
>> > helpful,
>> >
>> > or if
>> >
>> > > there is anything else I can test.
>> >
>> > Nothing more until either someone with Gtk 3.20 step in or my
>> > GNU/Debian sid move to 3.20 :)
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >   Pascal Obry /  Magny Les Hameaux (78)
>> >
>> >   The best way to travel is by means of imagination
>> >
>> > http://v2p.fr.eu.org
>> > http://www.obry.net
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Re: [darktable-user] Upgrading to GTK 3.20 ruins all menus (at least in darkroom)

[praeriehund]

Hi guys,

any updates on this topic. Working on ArchLinux with latest Gtk and darktable 
is more or less unusable with the broken appearance.

Regards
Karsten

On Monday, April 11, 2016 9:01:25 PM CEST Normand Fortier wrote:
> Of course, silly me, I do not get the warnings after correcting the css
> file... So no more warnings but appearance does not change.
> 
> Le 2016-04-11 20:47, Owen Mays a écrit :
> > I get the warnings when I launch darktable (no options) from the
> > command line. The warnings show up in the terminal window.
> > 
> > -Owen
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Normand Fortier
> > 
> > > wrote:
> > A silly question, but how did you get the warnings? I just
> > upgraded to gtk 3.20 (archlinux), if I start darktable with -d all
> > I do not get the warnings as part of the output. Anyway I tried
> > modifying /usr/share/darktable/darktable.css to correct the
> > warnings, but the appearance of darktable does not change (still
> > has the large buttons on top).
> > 
> > Normand
> > 
> > Le 2016-04-10 14:23, Owen Mays a écrit :
> > I would be happy to work on a solution if someone could point
> > me to a gtk/css reference or guide. I found this:
> > https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkWidget.html#GtkWidget--> 
> > > s-wide-separators but all it says is
> > 
> > "|GtkWidget:wide-separators| has been deprecated since version
> > 3.20 and should not be used in newly-written code. Use CSS
> > properties on the separator elements to style separators; the
> > value of this style property is ignored."
> > 
> > Can anyone tell me what the buttons on the top of each module
> > are called? (the on/off, presets menu, and reset buttons). It
> > looks like their size has been expanded and is pushing
> > everything else too large.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Owen
> > 
> > On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Pascal Obry  >   > 
> > >> wrote:
> > Le dimanche 10 avril 2016 à 12:40 -0500, Owen Mays a écrit :
> > > I have created an issue in redmine:
> > http://redmine.darktable.org/issu
> > 
> > > es/10990
> > > Let me know if there is more information that would be
> > 
> > helpful,
> > 
> > or if
> > 
> > > there is anything else I can test.
> > 
> > Nothing more until either someone with Gtk 3.20 step in or my
> > GNU/Debian sid move to 3.20 :)
> > 
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