Re: [darktable-user] Collect images not working as expected

[Johann Spies]

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 at 23:17, Patrick Shanahan  wrote:

> * Johann Spies  [07-20-19 17:11]:
>


> 
> one must assume you count yourself among those.  will you step up and
> provide the code to accomplish such?  or hire someone to do so?  or just
> continue to utilize the efforts of others rather than be bothered.
> 
>

That was unnecessary.  I was asking a question and then answered your
question.

It might in the future investigate the possibility to contribute to the
code.

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Re: [darktable-user] Collect images not working as expected

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Johann Spies  [07-20-19 17:11]:
> On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 at 20:30, Pascal Obry  wrote:
> 
> > Le samedi 20 juillet 2019 à 20:20 +0200, Johann Spies a écrit :
> > > Is there any hope that we would be able to use PostgreSQL in the
> > > future -  a proper database?
> >
> > Serious? And you expect every user to install a PostgreSQL database
> > server?
> >
> 
> At least as an option for those who want to use it.  The others can use
> SQLite.


one must assume you count yourself among those.  will you step up and
provide the code to accomplish such?  or hire someone to do so?  or just
continue to utilize the efforts of others rather than be bothered.



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Re: [darktable-user] Collect images not working as expected

[Johann Spies]

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 at 20:30, Pascal Obry  wrote:

> Le samedi 20 juillet 2019 à 20:20 +0200, Johann Spies a écrit :
> > Is there any hope that we would be able to use PostgreSQL in the
> > future -  a proper database?
>
> Serious? And you expect every user to install a PostgreSQL database
> server?
>

At least as an option for those who want to use it.  The others can use
SQLite.

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Re: [darktable-user] Collect images not working as expected

[Pascal Obry]

Le samedi 20 juillet 2019 à 20:20 +0200, Johann Spies a écrit :
> Is there any hope that we would be able to use PostgreSQL in the
> future -  a proper database?

Serious? And you expect every user to install a PostgreSQL database
server? AFAIK, there is no embedded PostgreSQL server. And last, this
is probably not an SQLite database issue but a bug in the way the
collect module used to record the boolean operations. If this is the
bug I'm talking about a simple delete of darktablerc would have been
sufficient.

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Re: [darktable-user] Collect images not working as expected

[Johann Spies]

I deleted the database again and did the import again.  This time I was a
bit more patient - I only imported one year at a time.

Now the default behaviour is back.  I do not trust SQLite.

Is there any hope that we would be able to use PostgreSQL in the future -
a proper database?

Regards
Johann

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 at 15:56, Johann Spies  wrote:

> No.  The same happens when I choose "All"  or even no star.  Then it
> changes the collection according to the star rating but the filter in the
> left panel is ignored.
>
> Johann
>
> On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 at 15:07, Archie Macintosh 
> wrote:
>
>> Is it because you've got the View set to 'one star' images?
>>
>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 at 13:02, Johann Spies 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Something went wrong.  Since yesterday my filters when using "collect
>> images" stopped giving the correct result.
>> >
>> > As an example: this screenshot
>> >
>> > I took two photo's today (2019:07:20) and imported it.  I only could
>> get to it when I used the date (2006) to get to the imported photo's.
>> Although it shows in the left pane that there are only two photos in this
>> film roll it shows 43908 thumbnails.
>> >
>> > I initially thought that was as the result of a corrupted database.  So
>> I moved my library.db to another name and reimported all the photo's again
>> last night.  No change in the behaviour.
>> >
>> > What is going on?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Johann
>> > --
>> > Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself,
>> > my lips will praise you.  (Psalm 63:3)
>> >
>> >
>> 
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Re: [darktable-user] Collect images not working as expected

[I. Ivanov]

If the filter you are using is selected as a bookmark - try deleting the 
bookmark and select manually. If it works - make a new bookmark.


Regards,

B

On 2019-07-20 06:56, Johann Spies wrote:
No.  The same happens when I choose "All"  or even no star.  Then it 
changes the collection according to the star rating but the filter in 
the left panel is ignored.


Johann

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 at 15:07, Archie Macintosh > wrote:


Is it because you've got the View set to 'one star' images?

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 at 13:02, Johann Spies mailto:johann.sp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Something went wrong.  Since yesterday my filters when using
"collect images" stopped giving the correct result.
>
> As an example: this screenshot
>
> I took two photo's today (2019:07:20) and imported it.  I only
could get to it when I used the date (2006) to get to the imported
photo's.  Although it shows in the left pane that there are only
two photos in this film roll it shows 43908 thumbnails.
>
> I initially thought that was as the result of a corrupted
database.  So I moved my library.db to another name and reimported
all the photo's again last night.  No change in the behaviour.
>
> What is going on?
>
> Regards
> Johann
> --
> Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself,
> my lips will praise you.  (Psalm 63:3)
>
>

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Re: [darktable-user] Collect images not working as expected

[Johann Spies]

No.  The same happens when I choose "All"  or even no star.  Then it
changes the collection according to the star rating but the filter in the
left panel is ignored.

Johann

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 at 15:07, Archie Macintosh  wrote:

> Is it because you've got the View set to 'one star' images?
>
> On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 at 13:02, Johann Spies  wrote:
> >
> > Something went wrong.  Since yesterday my filters when using "collect
> images" stopped giving the correct result.
> >
> > As an example: this screenshot
> >
> > I took two photo's today (2019:07:20) and imported it.  I only could get
> to it when I used the date (2006) to get to the imported photo's.  Although
> it shows in the left pane that there are only two photos in this film roll
> it shows 43908 thumbnails.
> >
> > I initially thought that was as the result of a corrupted database.  So
> I moved my library.db to another name and reimported all the photo's again
> last night.  No change in the behaviour.
> >
> > What is going on?
> >
> > Regards
> > Johann
> > --
> > Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself,
> > my lips will praise you.  (Psalm 63:3)
> >
> >
> 
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[darktable-user] Collect images not working as expected

[Johann Spies]

Something went wrong.  Since yesterday my filters when using "collect
images" stopped giving the correct result.

As an example: this screenshot >

I took two photo's today (2019:07:20) and imported it.  I only could get to
it when I used the date (2006) to get to the imported photo's.  Although it
shows in the left pane that there are only two photos in this film roll it
shows 43908 thumbnails.

I initially thought that was as the result of a corrupted database.  So I
moved my library.db to another name and reimported all the photo's again
last night.  No change in the behaviour.

What is going on?

Regards
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Re: [darktable-user] Collect Images, geotagging ...

[Jack Bowling]

Another vote for at least the capability of the map function to only 
plot photos in the current collection. If you want all historical plots, 
then that should also be selectable.


Jack

On 2019-06-05 11:50 a.m., jys wrote:

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, at 10:58, Shawn wrote:


I did say I was a newer DT user, but also long time Linux user, so yes,
I will look into using exiftool.

Newer users are likely to have the most perspective on little bits of missing 
functionality like this, I would think. I'm not sure where the alarm is coming from, but 
it should be pointed out that all that's being discussed is making a couple of data 
fields that already exist per image usable in the filtering syntax just like any of the 
other ones already there... hardly a case of "feature-itis". :D

The image organization aspect of darktable is a part of why some people use it, 
it's already there, and always has been. Included in this are some nice 
features for adding geotagging to images. Until recently, that data wasn't even 
added to the XMP files, only stored in the database, and some people don't even 
use XMP files. This means using external Exif tools isn't always a solution. 
I'm really bewildered that adding a couple of filter properties is being met 
with this response, especially considering the incredible amount of overhauling 
being done on the 2.7 dev version currently. That's just weird.


In answer to is this a non-core, file-management feature:
I would agree completely, save for the fact it seems DT already has the
ability to filter on every other EXIF value. Why leave out geotag.

Exactly. It's an omission, one that might seem odd to somebody coming to 
darktable from somewhere else,  and all you did was point it out.


So far as complexity of code, I'd be perfectly happy entering a SQL like
query [LAT between a and b AND LON between c and d]. The complex part is
telling DT not to enumerate every existing LAT/LON w/ count of images to
place in a select-list.

I don't think it's complex, exactly, just a different case than what's already 
there, and might take a little thinking about how best to handle a special case 
that might be used in conjunction with the already implemented properties. 
There are plenty of smart people doing harder things than that in git master 
lately. Just sayin'.



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Re: [darktable-user] Collect Images, geotagging ...

[jys]

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, at 10:58, Shawn wrote:

> I did say I was a newer DT user, but also long time Linux user, so yes, 
> I will look into using exiftool.

Newer users are likely to have the most perspective on little bits of missing 
functionality like this, I would think. I'm not sure where the alarm is coming 
from, but it should be pointed out that all that's being discussed is making a 
couple of data fields that already exist per image usable in the filtering 
syntax just like any of the other ones already there... hardly a case of 
"feature-itis". :D

The image organization aspect of darktable is a part of why some people use it, 
it's already there, and always has been. Included in this are some nice 
features for adding geotagging to images. Until recently, that data wasn't even 
added to the XMP files, only stored in the database, and some people don't even 
use XMP files. This means using external Exif tools isn't always a solution. 
I'm really bewildered that adding a couple of filter properties is being met 
with this response, especially considering the incredible amount of overhauling 
being done on the 2.7 dev version currently. That's just weird.

> In answer to is this a non-core, file-management feature:
> I would agree completely, save for the fact it seems DT already has the 
> ability to filter on every other EXIF value. Why leave out geotag.

Exactly. It's an omission, one that might seem odd to somebody coming to 
darktable from somewhere else,  and all you did was point it out.

> So far as complexity of code, I'd be perfectly happy entering a SQL like 
> query [LAT between a and b AND LON between c and d]. The complex part is 
> telling DT not to enumerate every existing LAT/LON w/ count of images to 
> place in a select-list.

I don't think it's complex, exactly, just a different case than what's already 
there, and might take a little thinking about how best to handle a special case 
that might be used in conjunction with the already implemented properties. 
There are plenty of smart people doing harder things than that in git master 
lately. Just sayin'.

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Re: [darktable-user] Collect Images, geotagging ...

[Shawn]

--David V.:
Would a lua script that simply opens an independent exif-tool gui 
provide answers to such questions.


--Christian K.:
if I can do that anyway with exiftool as a front end to DT scripting, 
why do I need to integrate it into DT?


--Anton A.:
assumption that the images contain the geotaggng.
DT NOT as image processing but, as file management.

All Great Answers. Thank You!
I did say I was a newer DT user, but also long time Linux user, so yes, 
I will look into using exiftool.


In answer to is this a non-core, file-management feature:
I would agree completely, save for the fact it seems DT already has the 
ability to filter on every other EXIF value. Why leave out geotag.
So far as complexity of code, I'd be perfectly happy entering a SQL like 
query [LAT between a and b AND LON between c and d]. The complex part is 
telling DT not to enumerate every existing LAT/LON w/ count of images to 
place in a select-list.


Regardless of the outcome, I greatly appreciate the suggestions. I'm 
sure I can do what I want with exiftool.


Thank you all!

Shawn


Thank You,

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Re: [darktable-user] Collect Images, geotagging ...

[David Vincent-Jones]

Would a lua script that simply opens an independent exif-tool gui 
provide answers to such questions.


On 2019-06-05 6:51 a.m., Charlie Goodwin wrote:

Anton Aylward says,  "...why do I need to integrate it into DT?"

I have been reading this, and any number of other threads and asking 
myself these same kinds of questions. Many requests would turn 
Darktable into a Swiss army knife that can do everything. I just 
wonder if it would be as good at the core functions. I also wonder if 
it is wise to scatter the developer's time in many directions.


 
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[darktable-user] Collect Images, geotagging ...

[Charlie Goodwin]

Anton Aylward says,  "...why do I need to integrate it into DT?"

I have been reading this, and any number of other threads and asking myself
these same kinds of questions. Many requests would turn Darktable into a
Swiss army knife that can do everything. I just wonder if it would be as
good at the core functions. I also wonder if it is wise to scatter the
developer's time in many directions.


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Re: [darktable-user] Collect Images, geotagging: anyone have example query syntax that will select images based on range of GPS location?

[Christian Kanzian]

Am 2019-06-05 12:59, schrieb Anton Aylward:

On 04/06/2019 12:04, Shawn wrote:
new user here, though I have already scoured the web and turned up 
nothing.



Next I learned about Collect Images.  I see there is parameter 
'geotagging', but

nothing (other than '%') seems to work as a query.
I want a collection containing all images
  with geotagging coordinates:
image-Latitude Between 45.84 and 45.88
 and
image-Longitude Between -84.60 and -84.65



[...]


Which begs the question: if I can do that anyway with exiftool as a 
front end to

DT scripting, why do I need to integrate it into DT?


Because there is a LUA API and you can use it like in this example:
https://github.com/darktable-org/lua-scripts/blob/master/contrib/geoToolbox.lua

You can access image information like longitude, latitude and elevation 
via LUA API

https://www.darktable.org/lua-api/types_dt_lua_image_t.html#types.dt_lua_image_t.longitude

So someone could write its own lighttable module for doing that exactly 
asked feature.

No need for any other single external tool.

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Re: [darktable-user] Collect Images, geotagging: anyone have example query syntax that will select images based on range of GPS location?

[Anton Aylward]

On 04/06/2019 12:04, Shawn wrote:
> new user here, though I have already scoured the web and turned up nothing.
> 
> First I thought the Map view would help me, but I don't see any way to create 
> a
> Collection of all images shown on a given Map display.
> 
> Next I learned about Collect Images.  I see there is parameter 'geotagging', 
> but
> nothing (other than '%') seems to work as a query.
> I want a collection containing all images
>   with geotagging coordinates:
> image-Latitude Between 45.84 and 45.88
>  and
> image-Longitude Between -84.60 and -84.65

There is the implicit assumption that the images contain the geotaggng
information in the EXIF record  That depends entirely on the camera hardware.
many of us use equipment other than phones :-)

I do have GPS on one of my cameras but leave it turned off for a brace of
reasons.  At the best of time it consumes a lot of battery power and it consumes
even more indoors.

As I've observed before, being a Linux user I'm used to using Linux tools.
In this case I can use the scripting capability of 'exiftool to determine if a
specific photograph does have geotagging and what its value is, perhaps if it
fits in a range of values.

Really, what we're discussing here is not about DT as image processing but DT as
file management.  And to be frank, that bothers me to a degree as these are
distinct functions.  Yes, they relate, but they are also distinct.  In other
contexts, dealing with other files, I have separate tools to manage files, view
the file, print the file.  Integrating all these into one package leads to
BigCode and complexity and the risk of untoward interactions and the temptation
on the part of the coders to take short-cuts rather than stick to defined
interface protocols.  As Yoda would point out, this leads to bugs and
pernicious, complicated and hard to track down bugs.  This potentiality bothers
me and it should bother you too.

DT has scripting capability as well; if you're not using it, if you're only
using the GUI mode, they you are missing out on a very powerful capability.
Obviously it is relevant for batch processing, but it is relevant elsewhere, and
relevant for single images.

IF DT did have the ability to determine geotags by value, you could script for
that, and it would be easier to specify ranges to a precision and a set of
commands and possibly other qualifications such as time-of-day to control the
processing.

Which begs the question: if I can do that anyway with exiftool as a front end to
DT scripting, why do I need to integrate it into DT?

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Re: [darktable-user] Collect Images, geotagging: anyone have example query syntax that will select images based on range of GPS location?

[Shawn]

On 6/4/19 7:11 PM, David Vincent-Jones wrote:
And, in reverse  just look at the map and you should see all of 
the images within your defined area. Isn't the the whole point of 
geo-tagging?


Perhaps I'm using the map wrong, but I tried that:  I zoomed the map to 
a ~1/4 sq mile around my home. The result is hundreds of thumbnails, 
mostly stacked on top of each other, and lighttable (filmstrip) below 
the map still shows images not on map. Seems only thing possible with 
the thumbnails shown on map is a) double-click to edit, or b) drag to 
move.  Is there a way to create and browse a collection based on a map view?




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Re: [darktable-user] Collect Images, geotagging: anyone have example query syntax that will select images based on range of GPS location?

[jys]

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019, at 16:10, Ricardo Kozmate.Net wrote:
> Em 04/06/19 23:13, Shawn escreveu:
> > This Feature:  Collect Images where geotagging LAT is between a and b 
> > AND geotagging LON is between c and d
> 
> and/or within R radius of point (lat,lon).

I would say both are potentially useful in different use cases.

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Re: [darktable-user] Collect Images, geotagging: anyone have example query syntax that will select images based on range of GPS location?

[David Vincent-Jones]

And, in reverse  just look at the map and you should see all of the 
images within your defined area. Isn't the the whole point of geo-tagging?


On 2019-06-04 3:59 p.m., jys wrote:

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019, at 15:18, Shawn wrote:

What's the best way to suggest?

Probably by creating an enhancement request here:

  https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues


Hope we can get this added.
Seems 99% of the code is already there, just need to create query
language for geotagging field.

Yeah, I took a look at collect.c and realized that while just adding Lat and 
Lon properties wouldn't be too hard, this wouldn't sit too well with the way 
the filtering currently works, for the reasons you describe... but I agree that 
being able to use those with the same operators that work with ISO, etc would 
be great. Potentially a GUI in the form of a bounding box on the map could 
eventually be added.




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Re: [darktable-user] Collect Images, geotagging: anyone have example query syntax that will select images based on range of GPS location?

[Ricardo Kozmate.Net]

Em 04/06/19 23:13, Shawn escreveu:
This Feature:  Collect Images where geotagging LAT is between a and b 
AND geotagging LON is between c and d


and/or within R radius of point (lat,lon).

If needed I may help with the math.

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Re: [darktable-user] Collect Images, geotagging: anyone have example query syntax that will select images based on range of GPS location?

[jys]

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019, at 15:18, Shawn wrote:
> What's the best way to suggest?

Probably by creating an enhancement request here:

 https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues

> Hope we can get this added.
> Seems 99% of the code is already there, just need to create query 
> language for geotagging field.

Yeah, I took a look at collect.c and realized that while just adding Lat and 
Lon properties wouldn't be too hard, this wouldn't sit too well with the way 
the filtering currently works, for the reasons you describe... but I agree that 
being able to use those with the same operators that work with ISO, etc would 
be great. Potentially a GUI in the form of a bounding box on the map could 
eventually be added. 

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Re: [darktable-user] Collect Images, geotagging: anyone have example query syntax that will select images based on range of GPS location?

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Shawn  [06-04-19 18:21]:
> BREIF:  jys: Thank you for confirming my suspicion.
> Collect Images by comparing an expression to geotag value is a feature that
> is overdue.
> What's the best way to suggest?
>  Do dev's monitor here.
>  Do I need to join dev list
>  , or submit via website?

*some* of the dev's hand in irc, freenode #darktable
submit an enhancement request to github darktable


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Re: [darktable-user] Collect Images, geotagging: anyone have example query syntax that will select images based on range of GPS location?

[Shawn]

BREIF:  jys: Thank you for confirming my suspicion.
Collect Images by comparing an expression to geotag value is a feature 
that is overdue.

What's the best way to suggest?
 Do dev's monitor here.
 Do I need to join dev list
 , or submit via website?

DETAIL:
It seems all the tools are built around helping to populate blank GPS 
metadata.
But even w/o fancy cameras, most users now have nearly ten years of 
smartphone images that are already geotagged.
And for all but the Pro Photographers, these collections are not tagged 
at all, perhaps only organized by folder.


Looking at the other available filters (exposure, camera, aperture...), 
I see we can filter for images shot at 1/732 second (essentially any 
value), and while hovering over the query field shows a Tool-Tip saying 
we can enter a query, it would appear developers insist on providing a 
selectable list, even if that list is 100's of values long. Perhaps 
that's the trouble:  the list of geotags would be tens to hundreds of 
thousands of values long, and nobody would ever want to select one 
specific (very precise) location, but instead look for values near a 
location, or bounded by min/max Lat and Lon.


This Feature:  Collect Images where geotagging LAT is between a and b 
AND geotagging LON is between c and d

would be very helpful to me, and I imagine to a lot of users.
I'm not a Pro photographer, just a very technical amateur.  As such I 
don't get paid for shooting, nor organizing, so did not invest in 
expensive software twenty years ago, meaning virtually none of my images 
are tagged, or even very well organized.


Hope we can get this added.
Seems 99% of the code is already there, just need to create query 
language for geotagging field.


Thank You!
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Re: [darktable-user] Collect Images, geotagging: anyone have example query syntax that will select images based on range of GPS location?

[jys]

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019, at 09:12, Shawn wrote:
> Next I learned about Collect Images.  I see there is parameter 
> 'geotagging', but nothing (other than '%') seems to work as a query.
> I want a collection containing all images
>    with geotagging coordinates:
> image-Latitude Between 45.84 and 45.88
>   and
> image-Longitude Between -84.60 and -84.65

I'm afraid the geotagging filter is simply a boolean (true or false) value... 
it doesn't actually evaluate the location data beyond whether it exists or not. 
It's an interesting idea, though...

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[darktable-user] Collect Images, geotagging: anyone have example query syntax that will select images based on range of GPS location?

[Shawn]

new user here, though I have already scoured the web and turned up nothing.

First I thought the Map view would help me, but I don't see any way to 
create a Collection of all images shown on a given Map display.


Next I learned about Collect Images.  I see there is parameter 
'geotagging', but nothing (other than '%') seems to work as a query.

I want a collection containing all images
  with geotagging coordinates:
image-Latitude Between 45.84 and 45.88
 and
image-Longitude Between -84.60 and -84.65

Thank You,

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Re: [darktable-user] Collect Images: Tag - Sort Order

[Tobias Ellinghaus]

Am Sonntag, 11. Februar 2018, 11:13:23 CET schrieb Ochal Christophe:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm currently using DarkTable version 2.4.1 and I noticed that for some
> reason tags aren't ordered:
> 
> Is there a way to get them to be ordered? I couldn't find it. If not,
> I'll report a bug.

Please do that. It's supposed to be ordered, something seems to be broken 
there.

> With kind regards,
> 
> Christophe Ochal

Tobias

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[darktable-user] Collect Images: Tag - Sort Order

[Ochal Christophe]

Hi,

I'm currently using DarkTable version 2.4.1 and I noticed that for some 
reason tags aren't ordered:


Is there a way to get them to be ordered? I couldn't find it. If not, 
I'll report a bug.


With kind regards,

Christophe Ochal



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Re: [darktable-user] collect images attending to exposure time

[I. Ivanov]

I can see some use of such function if a user shoots long exposures 
mixed with regular speeds. If my understanding is correct - a user may 
want to filter out or select all images with greater than "x" number of 
seconds the image has been exposed. To add to it - some users would 
shoot test shot on high speed and high iso then lower down iso and speed 
for final shot. Organizing these can be quite a task. But on the other 
hand - not everybody uses such mixtures. Hope my understanding is 
correct about the need.


Regards,

B



On 2017-08-04 06:06 AM, Remco Viëtor wrote:

On vendredi 4 août 2017 14:31:12 CEST Marcial wrote:

Hi all,

I use quite a lot the rules to exclude or include the collected images.
I can choose among a lot of criteria, but I miss the option of doing it
attending to the exposure time. Is it possible and I am missing it, or
it's just not feasible? If that's the case, I would like to suggest that
it could be implemented, as it would be very useful.

While such an option might be very useful to *you*, I've literally never felt
the need to filter on exposure time (look up the exposure time for a given
image, yes, selecting images based on exposure time, no).

So for now, I 'd be a bit careful in saying that it would be an option that's
"very useful" for a significant number of users (of course, if a developer
feels it's a useful option, '1' becomes a significant number of users).



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Re: [darktable-user] collect images attending to exposure time

[Remco Viëtor]

On vendredi 4 août 2017 14:31:12 CEST Marcial wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I use quite a lot the rules to exclude or include the collected images.
> I can choose among a lot of criteria, but I miss the option of doing it
> attending to the exposure time. Is it possible and I am missing it, or
> it's just not feasible? If that's the case, I would like to suggest that
> it could be implemented, as it would be very useful.

While such an option might be very useful to *you*, I've literally never felt 
the need to filter on exposure time (look up the exposure time for a given 
image, yes, selecting images based on exposure time, no).

So for now, I 'd be a bit careful in saying that it would be an option that's 
"very useful" for a significant number of users (of course, if a developer 
feels it's a useful option, '1' becomes a significant number of users).



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Re: [darktable-user] Collect images

[Jean-Luc CECCOLI]

Hello,

 

Within the lighttable, expand the Collection filters tab, then select Color 
label, select the color to exclude and then the operator Exclude pictures.

Repeat this for every color you want to exclude.

Then, for each roll you want to see the pictures, select Roll, select the roll 
name and finally select the operator Include pictures.

Thre must be some other / easier way, but that's how I would do.

BTW, can someone confirm whether there is or not an empty line between each 
line in my message ?

 

Regards,

 

J.-Luc

 

 

 

 

> Message du 13/08/16 02:03
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> A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
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> Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Collect images
> 
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 14:45:32 -0700
> "I. Ivanov"  wrote:
> 
> >I would do the following
> >
> >1. Select the folder or location with all images that you filter
> >
> >2. Add a rule narrow down selection. Change it to "except"
> >
> >https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch02s03s02.html.php
> >
> >Look at the bottom - "combining rules"
> >
> >Works for me on ubuntu 14.04 and DT 2.0.5
> >
> >Screenshot is very small
> 
> Yes. My problem is that I need to select multiple folders and then I
> can't make it work
> 
> -- 
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> 
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Re: [darktable-user] Collect images

[darktable]

On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:51:28 -0700
iv3...@gmail.com wrote:

>In my selection - I use images taken 2016:08 (but are not red) and
>also 2016:07 (I noticed it included the reds from July so I excluded
>them again) and after that I excluded the greens from July too.
>
>Then I decided to experiment and selected all taken in 2016 and
>decided to exclude color (but didn't put any color). So in reality -
>it excluded anything that has color label attached. I believe this
>is what you were looking for to start with. Any images in a folder
>that is not color labeled.

Interesting, because I was doing the union first, then trying to
shrink the result.

Thanks. I'll experiment over the weekend.

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Re: [darktable-user] Collect images

[I. Ivanov]

It depends how many folders you need to access. A different approach 
(like date) may be more appropriate. It is possible however to daisy chain.


In my selection - I use images taken 2016:08 (but are not red) and also 
2016:07 (I noticed it included the reds from July so I excluded them 
again) and after that I excluded the greens from July too.


Then I decided to experiment and selected all taken in 2016 and decided 
to exclude color (but didn't put any color). So in reality - it excluded 
anything that has color label attached. I believe this is what you were 
looking for to start with. Any images in a folder that is not color 
labeled.


My expectation is that if you combine the 2 methods - daisy chain few 
folder and color selection (without actually selecting a color) or even 
date selection should give you the scope of images that you are looking for.


Regards,

B


On 16-08-12 05:03 PM, darkta...@911networks.com wrote:

On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 14:45:32 -0700
"I. Ivanov"  wrote:


I would do the following

1. Select the folder or location with all images that you filter

2. Add a rule narrow down selection. Change it to "except"

https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch02s03s02.html.php

Look at the bottom - "combining rules"

Works for me on ubuntu 14.04 and DT 2.0.5

Screenshot is very small

Yes. My problem is  that I need to select multiple folders and then I
can't make it work





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Re: [darktable-user] Collect images

[darktable]

On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 14:45:32 -0700
"I. Ivanov"  wrote:

>I would do the following
>
>1. Select the folder or location with all images that you filter
>
>2. Add a rule narrow down selection. Change it to "except"
>
>https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch02s03s02.html.php
>
>Look at the bottom - "combining rules"
>
>Works for me on ubuntu 14.04 and DT 2.0.5
>
>Screenshot is very small

Yes. My problem is  that I need to select multiple folders and then I
can't make it work

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Re: [darktable-user] Collect images

[I. Ivanov]

I would do the following

1. Select the folder or location with all images that you filter

2. Add a rule narrow down selection. Change it to "except"

https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch02s03s02.html.php

Look at the bottom - "combining rules"

Works for me on ubuntu 14.04 and DT 2.0.5

Screenshot is very small

Regards,

B


On 16-08-12 12:22 PM, darkta...@911networks.com wrote:

On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 21:12:27 +0200 (CEST)
Jean-Luc CECCOLI  wrote:


Well, what exactly do you intend to do ?

1- Just display the ones that don't have colour label, or

2- Move the ones with no colour label to another place ?

I'm using the color labels as:

* already used
* black and white
* work in process
...


and I want to exclude them from my search so I can select which images
to tag, which image to process in darkroom...






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Re: [darktable-user] Collect images

[darktable]

On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 21:12:27 +0200 (CEST)
Jean-Luc CECCOLI  wrote:

>Well, what exactly do you intend to do ?
>
>1- Just display the ones that don't have colour label, or
>
>2- Move the ones with no colour label to another place ?

I'm using the color labels as:

* already used
* black and white
* work in process
...


and I want to exclude them from my search so I can select which images
to tag, which image to process in darkroom...


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re: [darktable-user] Collect images

[Jean-Luc CECCOLI]

Hello,

 

Well, what exactly do you intend to do ?

1- Just display the ones that don't have colour label, or

2- Move the ones with no colour label to another place ?

 

J.-Luc

 

 

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> 
> DT 2.0.5 on arch.
> 
> I'm having problem collecting images
> 
> * I have 8 film rolls. All the images related to 1 topic (basically a union). 
> * Now I want to shrink the whole group to only the images that have
> a color label.
> 
> How do I do that?
> 
> How do I add: except the no color label to the whole previous 8
> rolls?
> 
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> 
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[darktable-user] Collect images

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DT 2.0.5 on arch.

I'm having problem collecting images

* I have 8 film rolls. All the images related to 1 topic (basically a union). 
* Now I want to shrink the whole group to only the images that have
  a color label.

How do I do that?

How do I add: except the no color label to the whole previous 8
rolls?

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