Re: What is the current state of installing DateTime?
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 03:56:07AM -0500, Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > > > and DateTime-Locale fails because it uses a passthrough Makefile.PL > > that requires user interaction to download Module::Build. > > (Activestate's build process does check dependencies and would process > > Module::Build first if it were a listed as a dependency, but it's > > not.) This is a fundamental problem with passthrough or small > > compatibility Makefile.PLs, and an excellent reason to not use them. > > They could just install Module::Build once on their machines and be done > with this problem! AFAICT, they do each build in a "clean" environment with only those modules that are listed as dependencies installed. And the ExtUtils::MakeMaker Way of Doing Things is that Makefile.PL has to be run *first* and then dependencies be checked. This makes non-traditional compatibility Makefile.PL's something of a joke, since there is no way for them to be compatible under automated build tools. > I did nag an ActiveState person about this at OSCON and he said that > someone was working on re(writing|factoring) the auto-PPM tool. One thing you can do is add build_requires: Module::Build to META.yml. Don't know if their tool even checks this file, but it seems to me incorrect to not have it listed.
Re: What is the current state of installing DateTime?
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > and DateTime-Locale fails because it uses a passthrough Makefile.PL > that requires user interaction to download Module::Build. > (Activestate's build process does check dependencies and would process > Module::Build first if it were a listed as a dependency, but it's > not.) This is a fundamental problem with passthrough or small > compatibility Makefile.PLs, and an excellent reason to not use them. They could just install Module::Build once on their machines and be done with this problem! I did nag an ActiveState person about this at OSCON and he said that someone was working on re(writing|factoring) the auto-PPM tool. -dave /*=== House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com ===*/
Re: What is the current state of installing DateTime?
On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 09:34:16PM -0700, Ron Pero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I will ask ActiveState about a better version of the DateTime module for > their repository. You can look at what their automated build came up with at: http://ppm.activestate.com/BuildStatus/5.8-D.html (5.8 builds for modules beginning with D). Looking at the failure for windows, you see: failed building DateTime prerequisite DateTime-Locale aborting build of DateTime: failed prerequisites and DateTime-Locale fails because it uses a passthrough Makefile.PL that requires user interaction to download Module::Build. (Activestate's build process does check dependencies and would process Module::Build first if it were a listed as a dependency, but it's not.) This is a fundamental problem with passthrough or small compatibility Makefile.PLs, and an excellent reason to not use them.
RE: What is the current state of installing DateTime?
Thanks for your reply. To be more detailed, what I meant by: "attempting to install DateTime itself via nmake etc" was using the standard command line make sequence: perl Makefile.PL make make test make install During make test I got many results like this (Does "Can't locate loadable object" point to a solution?): t\01sanity..Can't locate loadable object for module DateTime in @INC (@INC contains: D:/Downloads/perlmodules/DateTime-0.22/blib/arch D:/Downloads/p erlmodules/DateTime-0.22/blib/lib C:\Perl\lib C:/Perl/lib C:/Perl/site/lib . C:/ Perl/lib C:/Perl/site/lib .) at C:\Perl\lib/XSLoader.pm line 44 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at D:/Downloads/perlmodules/DateTime-0.22/blib /lib/DateTime.pm line 44. Compilation failed in require at t\01sanity.t line 7. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at t\01sanity.t line 7. t\01sanity..dubious Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00) DIED. FAILED tests 1-16 Failed 16/16 tests, 0.00% okay t\02last_dayCan't locate loadable object for module DateTime in @INC (@INC contains: D:/Downloads/perlmodules/DateTime-0.22/blib/arch D:/Downloads/p erlmodules/DateTime-0.22/blib/lib C:\Perl\lib C:/Perl/lib C:/Perl/site/lib . C:/ Perl/lib C:/Perl/site/lib .) at C:\Perl\lib/XSLoader.pm line 44 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at D:/Downloads/perlmodules/DateTime-0.22/blib /lib/DateTime.pm line 44. Compilation failed in require at t\02last_day.t line 7. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at t\02last_day.t line 7. t\02last_daydubious Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00) DIED. FAILED tests 1-73 Failed 73/73 tests, 0.00% okay t\03components..Can't locate loadable object for module DateTime in @INC (@INC contains: D:/Downloads/perlmodules/DateTime-0.22/blib/arch D:/Downloads/p erlmodules/DateTime-0.22/blib/lib C:\Perl\lib C:/Perl/lib C:/Perl/site/lib . C:/ Perl/lib C:/Perl/site/lib .) at C:\Perl\lib/XSLoader.pm line 44 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at D:/Downloads/perlmodules/DateTime-0.22/blib /lib/DateTime.pm line 44. Compilation failed in require at t\03components.t line 7. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at t\03components.t line 7. t\03components..dubious Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00) DIED. FAILED tests 1-122 Failed 122/122 tests, 0.00% okay I will ask ActiveState about a better version of the DateTime module for their repository. Thanks again. Ron > -Original Message- > From: John Peacock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 7:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: What is the current state of installing DateTime? > > > Ron Pero wrote: > > When finally attempting to install DateTime itself via nmake etc, I get > > multiple multiple failures. > > Could you be more specific? > > > When attempting to install it via ppm, it fails > > with this message: > > Error installing package 'datetime': Read a PPD for 'datetime', > but it is > > not in > > tended for this build of Perl (MSWin32-x86-multi-thread). > > That means that Activestate hasn't got a version of DateTime for > Win32, but they > do for some other platform (probably Linux). It's a really > stupid error message. > > Most of the ppm's that Activestate maintains are done so > automatically, so if > there is any problem whatsoever, in any dependency, they don't > always go back > and see what was the problem. > > John > > -- > John Peacock > Director of Information Research and Technology > Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group > 4720 Boston Way > Lanham, MD 20706 > 301-459-3366 x.5010 > fax 301-429-5747 > > > > My mailbox is spam-free with ChoiceMail, the leader in personal and corporate anti-spam solutions. Download your free copy of ChoiceMail from www.choicemailfree.com
Re: What is the current state of installing DateTime?
Ron Pero wrote: When finally attempting to install DateTime itself via nmake etc, I get multiple multiple failures. Could you be more specific? When attempting to install it via ppm, it fails with this message: Error installing package 'datetime': Read a PPD for 'datetime', but it is not in tended for this build of Perl (MSWin32-x86-multi-thread). That means that Activestate hasn't got a version of DateTime for Win32, but they do for some other platform (probably Linux). It's a really stupid error message. Most of the ppm's that Activestate maintains are done so automatically, so if there is any problem whatsoever, in any dependency, they don't always go back and see what was the problem. John -- John Peacock Director of Information Research and Technology Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group 4720 Boston Way Lanham, MD 20706 301-459-3366 x.5010 fax 301-429-5747
What is the current state of installing DateTime?
Am running perl 5.6 on WindowsXP, and have searched the mail list archive for install problems. And have read the readme/pod etc at search.cpan.com. The net result is it is not clear to me how to install DateTime. I have just installed all (or almost all) of the dependencies, both with nmake etc, and via ppm. When finally attempting to install DateTime itself via nmake etc, I get multiple multiple failures. When attempting to install it via ppm, it fails with this message: Error installing package 'datetime': Read a PPD for 'datetime', but it is not in tended for this build of Perl (MSWin32-x86-multi-thread). Any suggestions? All I really want to use is the Event::Recurrence module, and probably a couple related modules. Thanks, Ron My mailbox is spam-free with ChoiceMail, the leader in personal and corporate anti-spam solutions. Download your free copy of ChoiceMail from www.choicemailfree.com
