Re: [Debconf-discuss] forgot walking stick, could someone bring to froscon?
Hi Judit, Judit Foglszinger schrieb am Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 03:25:39AM +0300: > I found a fairly good tree branch usable as walking stick at the > brevery hike, but forgot it in my room (A001, corner next to the > trash can) Is someone driving to froscon and could bring it along? I'm driving to FrOSCon tomorrow, but neither Richi nor me found a tree branch in A001. :-( Regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert, PGP: 612616B5 \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://arc.pasp.de/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://abe.noone.org/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Auf Wiedersehen, und danke für den Fisch
Hi, On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 04:52:23PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > If someone dares to take a really close look at one, try to see if it > has the distinctive three dots on its face, and that should confirm it > is one of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespula_germanica > (wasps). Yep, that's what Europeans (wenn, at least Germans) think of if they hear the word "wasp". And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_honey_bee is what they think of if they hear the word "bee". They're very easy to distinguish: * Wasps have no hairy body. * Wasps also care about meat. * Wasps don't sit on flowers. * Wasps have a very tight and clearly visible taille. * Wasps have clearly visible mandibles. (And it's well known locally that there is a wasp plague in at least Baden-Württemberg this summer.) Maybe north american bees look more like (our) wasps. No idea why else Steve thought that those are bees. Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.nonhtmlmail.org/campaign.html | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://abe.noone.org/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Alternative daytrip option: bicycling around Heidelberg for fun and relaxing
Hi,
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 10:12:48PM +0200, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
> 2015-08-13 15:51:24 Andreas Tille:
> > you might have noticed that I'm a bit limping (due to some knee surgery
> > / just to behave like a grandfather ;-)) and thus I'm afraid of longer
> > walking or standing. Since bicycle riding works perfectly for me I
> > decided to do some bicycle trip heading towards Heidelberg castle and go
> > from there some recommended bicycle trails (according OSM / local
> > signs). The goal is to have a smooth enjoyable ride at low speed with
> > breaks inbetween. Those who might not have any better plan are welcome
> > to join me.
>
> I'll join you.
I'm also interested since none of the offered day trip options tease
me.
But joining you for a bicycle trip also depends on the expected
departure and arrival times, though. What's your plan, Andreas?
Kind regards, Axel
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[Debconf-discuss] Missing Cisco WLAN Access Point since teardown
Hi, since there was no success on the debconf-team mailing list with the following request, I'm resending this (with some updated facts) to debconf-discuss in the hope that some of the people who helped during teardown on Sunday morning read this mailing list. The ISP is missing the one Cisco access point which they setup at the beginning of DebConf to better cover the amount of clients in the main talk room. They set it up in the lower dining room which we used during DebCamp and on the last day (teardown Sunday), on the floor right of the door towards toilettes and BoF room 1. The missing access point is a Cisco Aironet 1242G, of grey colour and has two external antennas. It looks like this: https://trakmax2.nuspire.com/images/ProviderProducts/1242bundle.jpg During lunch on teardown Sunday I noticed that there's a cable with no device plugged into the wall socket in the dining room and fetched it. So the AP was already missing at that time. Others have reported that the AP may have missed already at 10am. Anyone knows where the missing AP has been put to during teardown? Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Free Doodle Alternatives (was: git-buildpackage)
Hi, On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:04:14AM +0200, Giovanni Mascellani wrote: > (BTW, does anyone know a more free alternative to Doodle?) https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/ (ajaxy, AGPL) http://du7f.koalatux.ch/ (simple, AGPL) http://dauerpudel.net-wizard.org/ (GPL3) https://github.com/UNINETT/Foodle / http://foodl.org (LGPL) http://totaler.chabis.ch/ (YATPAPPL, has its own license, sounds similar to the WTFPL) Generic list at http://alternativeto.net/software/doodle/ More specific (to finding the right restaurant for the next LUG meeting :-) implementations written by members of the LUG Switzerland (du7f, dauerpudel and YATPAPPL actually are also from members of the LUGS), but for the some either license or source code or both is unknown: http://www.rolfp.ch/beizdudler/ (source code available, no license given) http://www.buergi.lugs.ch/wte/ (likely some BSD license, no code published yet) Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] git-buildpackage with upstream using git, too
Hi, On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 11:52:03PM +0200, Giovanni Mascellani wrote: > Il 13/08/2013 22:23, Gaudenz Steinlin ha scritto: > > I don't know if this is the right session to put this into. But I would > > be interested in a git-buildpackage session around non tarball centered > > usages. So things like doing packageing in a branch of the upstream > > repository and still using the official tarballs as a base for the > > package. > > I'm not completely sure I understand what you're meaning, I do. I ran into this problem several times already. > My idea is to keep a tutorial based on things and work flows that > are already widely used, not propose new ways to go. There is an "official" work flow for this, but it's not yet widely used, maybe because it's not too obvious. I've used it only once so far and are not really used to it yet and can't reproduce it by mind. As far as I understood it, it works as follows: * You add upstream's git repo as a remote. * When importing a new upstream tar ball (yes, you still have to do that), you can pass the according upstream commit/tag as an option to git-import-orig and it will make that commit an additional merge parent, but without actually using code from that commit/branch -- just as a pointer. (So either I didn't get it right or it's really that unintuitive.) Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] git-buildpackage
Hi, On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 05:38:17PM +0200, Albert Dengg wrote: > is there anyone here that is willing to do a quick walkthrough with me > for a usable workflow? If nobody else steps up, I can show what I know. But I actually don't use the full expected workflow either, just parts of it. (And I guess it's explained quite quickly, so I may not know everything.) Regards, Axel -- ,''`. | Axel Beckert , http://people.debian.org/~abe/ : :' : | Debian Developer, ftp.ch.debian.org Admin `. `' | 1024D: F067 EA27 26B9 C3FC 1486 202E C09E 1D89 9593 0EDE `-| 4096R: 2517 B724 C5F6 CA99 5329 6E61 2FF9 CD59 6126 16B5 ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] wireless coverage of debconf WLAN and DHCP issues on DebConf13 WLAN (was: [Debconf-announce] Car parking - People with cars please read!)
Hi Sven, On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:02:07AM +0200, Sven Mueller wrote: > My Android phone is unable to retrieve an IP from the debconf13 WLAN > since some time yesterday. Yeah, I noticed these issues, too, and contacted the ISP about that this morning. We do have an idea where these kinds of issues come from. > The debconf WLAN works, Yep, it should not be affected by these kind of issues as the DHCP packages don't go through the uplink for this WLAN. > but has bad or non-existant coverage on the lower floor of Peuplier. Thanks for that information! We'll see if we can fix that with another access point. > Could you forward this info to those who take care of network > issues? Found the mail ourselves. :-) Regards, Axel -- ,''`. | Axel Beckert , http://people.debian.org/~abe/ : :' : | Debian Developer, ftp.ch.debian.org Admin `. `' | 1024D: F067 EA27 26B9 C3FC 1486 202E C09E 1D89 9593 0EDE `-| 4096R: 2517 B724 C5F6 CA99 5329 6E61 2FF9 CD59 6126 16B5 ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Food serving for vegetarians und vegans
Hi, On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 09:35:35AM +0200, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: > > Could future debconfs simply reserve N vegetarian and vegan meals for > > those who do not eat meat, but allow some for omnivores to choose if > > desired, too? > > We could also stop serving dead animals entirely. That would make the > whole process a lot easier. :) Or we could wait until someone invents animals who want to be eaten. At least Milliways, The Restaurant At The End Of The Universe already exists at some hacker camps: http://www.milliways.info/ :-) Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Swiss power connector
Hi, Steve Langasek wrote: > Knowing that an adapter is needed is not much help if you don't know where > to purchase one. I have been unable to find any Swiss adapters for sale > here in the US They're available in most bigger supermarkets in Switzerland, IIRC for prices around CHF 4 to 5. Ben Hutchings wrote: > There is a plan to buy a large number of Swiss plugs (not adapters) > which can then be wired onto power strips. They arrived this morning at Le Camp. Frontdesk knows more. Regards, Axel -- ,''`. | Axel Beckert , http://people.debian.org/~abe/ : :' : | Debian Developer, ftp.ch.debian.org Admin `. `' | 1024D: F067 EA27 26B9 C3FC 1486 202E C09E 1D89 9593 0EDE `-| 4096R: 2517 B724 C5F6 CA99 5329 6E61 2FF9 CD59 6126 16B5 ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Compilation box
Hi Philipp, On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 11:50:21AM +0200, Philipp Kaluza wrote: > I am planning to attend DebCamp, and had planned to do some mass > compiling during the time. However, my laptop seems to suffer somewhat > under the weather (heat-wise). So I am pondering to haul my 20-somthing > kilo compilation server to Switzerland via train. However, as it's a bit > dated, it wouldn't really give that much "bang for the kilo", and I'd > rather avoid that hassle if I can. > > So I'm asking if anybody else is > a) attending DebCamp > b) bringing hardware capable of serious compiling, and > c) could set me up with a schroot or two ? Especially if it's just during DebCamp, I think we can give you a VM on one of the two servers (the video-team one). h01ger: Objections? Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] [OT] Re: Bicycle?
Hi, On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 04:03:16PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 02:47:49PM +0200, Bruno Kleinert wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 24.07.2013, 13:02 +0100 schrieb Ian Jackson: > > > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ijackson/2011/brompton.jpeg > > > > OMG, it shrinked because it was too hot in the dish washer! ;) > > Even worse: Some parts became red from the dish washer - I can never > believe that an original Brompton has these red parts on a blue bike. Oh, Bromptons can come in many color combinations. You can actually choose the color of the frame and the color of the forks completely independently, even it the combination would be totally ugly: http://www.brompton.de/kalkulator/index.php (Unfortunately the shown images always show the whole Brompton in the color, you can test how ugly a combination would be. ;-) Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Bicycle Rental? (was: Re: Bicycle?)
Hi,
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:37:17AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> do locals know if there will be some bike renting facilities
> nearby (FSVO "nearby", of course).
I just checked for bicycle shops and similar things around Vaumarcus.
There seem to be several ones in Colombier and Corcelles:
http://www.pro2roues.ch/
http://zanettasports.ch/Velos.html
http://www.locoemotion.ch/
http://tel.search.ch/corcelles/grand-rue-4b/sport-cycles
And one in Grandson:
http://www.gate24.ch/fr/cycles-roth-grandson-18731
Not sure if my French is good enough, but I found no hints about
rentals on either site.
And a bunch in Yverdon:
http://www.pro-velo-yverdon.ch/?menu=liens&page=1
At least one of them also does bicycle rental:
http://www.bicyclesshop.ch/liste.php?cat=57&souscat=261
HTH for a beginning.
Kind regards, Axel (a not-so-local local using {map,tel}.search.ch)
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Bicycle?
Hi, On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 06:06:50PM +0200, Bruno Kleinert wrote: > I consider taking my mountainbike with me to explore the area around > Vaumarcus a bit. Does anybody else plan to take a bicycle to DC? I'll bring my Brompton[1] to Vaumarcus (as I did on any previous DebConf I attended :-), but I'm not keen on anything too hilly or too rocky. (Despite having Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres mounted, they're still on just 16" wheels and the bicycle has no front suspension :-) [1] http://gallery.noone.org/Radfahren/Brompton/ Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Your biggest achievement during past DebConfs (aka new DebConf promoting campaign)
Hi,
Francesca Ciceri wrote:
> members of the Debconf Team and Publicity Team need your help!!1!!
>
> (nooo! don't hide!!)
>
> We'd like to have a quote from all Debian Developers and contributors
> naming their most important technical and/or social achievement reached
> during past DebConfs.
So where shall we send such quotes?
Regards, Axel
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[Debconf-discuss] Fitting Debian branded Swiss Knife Plastic Caps on existing Swiss Knives (was: Re: Debian Swiss Knife - Order yours now! - Yes, NOW.)
Hi all, I know this information is late, but maybe someone else was asking this himself this, too, before ordering: Didier Raboud wrote: > > http://wiki.debian.org/Merchandise/SwissKnives > > > > All the needed information is already available on the Debian wiki (…):. > > As was mentioned in the original annoucement, the pre-ordering period will en > on 31. August 2011. That is today. So if you want a Debian-branded Swiss > Knife, please give the above wiki page a visit and register yourself as soon > as possible. I will definitely close the pre-ordering period on friday. > > > Two models⁰ are available: > > a) the big "Nomad", with 11 functions (34 CHF) > > b) the geeky "CyberTool 29", with 28 functions (41 CHF) If you, like me, already have a similar Victorinox knife with the same size of plastic caps but with more or other tools than the two offered models, and wondered if you can exchange those caps against the Debian branded one: Yes it should be possible. There is a German written howto at http://www.messerjoker.com/PDF/griffschalen.pdf which explains how to exchange the plastic caps. If others are interested, too, I can translate that howto into English. (Found via the also German forum thread at http://www.messerforum.net/showthread.php?t=63270.) A picture of the plastic caps not yet mounted is https://www.faz.net/m/%7B5596A12F-EC76-4E15-847D-AD5197522F51%7DPicture.jpg (picture 8 from https://www.faz.net/s/Rub58F0CED852D8491CB25EDD10B71DB86F/Doc~E46334561702C4BBF9B8D79AFD5E6C662~ATpl~Ecommon~SMed.html#F4DC25F0C3F240F9AC4D437D23390965) > I would like to highlight that the big "Nomad" hasn't yet reached its minimum > amount of pre-orders for the order to happen. JFTR: It has now reached over 35 knives and so both orders will happen. Yay! Regards, Axel -- ,''`. | Axel Beckert , http://people.debian.org/~abe/ : :' : | Debian Developer, ftp.ch.debian.org Admin `. `' | 1024D: F067 EA27 26B9 C3FC 1486 202E C09E 1D89 9593 0EDE `-| 4096R: 2517 B724 C5F6 CA99 5329 6E61 2FF9 CD59 6126 16B5 ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] pictures and privacy
Hi, I must admit, I'm quite annoyed about this discussion. DebConf is a conference and therefore a public event, so WTF? On Sun, Aug 07, 2011 at 07:44:52PM +0300, Sami Liedes wrote: > The starting point must be that people usually have the right to > publish their photos. Since in those cases the most you can do is to > kindly ask them to not photograph you or remove a photo of you, I do > consider it entirely unreasonable to try to place on them the heavy > burden of having to obtain consent before publishing. That would make > photography unnecessarily difficult in a case where there can be no > reasonable expectation of privacy. Seconded. > I, and I suspect many others, like having photos of DebConf. Yup. Looking forward to especially the bicycle tour pictures from Ian. :-) > The effect of what you demand would be to suppress many photos that > nobody would object to simply because someone somewhere could have > had an objection to the photo and the photographer never got around > to asking. I fear that, too, and it would be very sad and quite a loss for DebConf, especially also for those who couldn't attend. > In the case of quite normal, innocent photos that burden should not > be on the photographers. Yeah, and nearly all photos with people on it are very innocent. And for those few which are not, asking the people on the picture is not a burden. But having to ask _all_ would be. Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] My yelling last night
Hi, On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 08:46:39AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Just wanted to say that I don't hold a grudge or anything towards the > people who were talking and having fun and keeping others awake last > night at 3AM. But I do hope you understand my needing to drive ~1600km > (that's kilometer, not convertible mark) today requires that I'm at > least somewhat well-rested, and that was being made impossible by the > noise outside my room... It's fully understandable that people want to get some sleep, but as your yelling was far louder than all of us together, I'd expect that it made things just worse for others which may have been able to sleep with the previous level of noise but woke up at that point. :-/ OTOH it was definitely more quiet after your yelling. But I expect that any not so friendly comment from someone who woke up would have done that. Yelling was IMHO not necessary. Hope you arrived fine anyway. :-) Kind regards, Axel (who was still working back then and doesn't feel guilty, except for waking up Thomas earlier by knocking on his room door. :-) -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Emacs Skill Exchange
Hi, for the Emacs Skills Exchange session tomorrow at 12:00 in the meeting room, I prepared some notes of at least my answers and some more stuff I'd like to show: gobby.debian.net -> debconf11/skillsexchange/Emacs Skills Exchange See you there! Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Bicycling tour starts at 18:15 in front of the venue (was: Re: Bicycling instead of running?)
Hi,
Annette and I were exploring possible routes today before the banquet,
So here's the final plan
As announced previously we'll start earlier than initially planned.
This means that those who want to go bicycling also have to skip other
events events on the 18-19 time slot, currently the "mass deployment"
and "mobile ux" bofs and "coding for human rights". (I planned to
attend two of them, too. Meh.) But a later start no more makes sense
due to the no more so hot weather (compared to last week) and that we
plan to return the bicycles on the same day. (See below for details on
that.)
Current time plan:
A first group arrives around 18:00 at the Cycling Shop[1] to check and
fetch the bicycles.
A second group will start around 18:15 in front of the venue, walking
to the bicycle shop so that we can hopefully start around 18:30 from
there.
We should be back at 20:30 at the bicycle shop to return the bikes. We
should be back at the venue and Hotel Bosna around 21:00, so there's
time for a late dinner and some games afterwards.
There is still the fallback to return them on Saturday and store them
in the Hotel garage. But returning them on Saturday is probably more
difficult as probably not all people will available for driving them
back to the shop so we (Andreas and me) prefer the other solution.
How to get to the bicycle shop[1]:
[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.776212&lon=17.201473&zoom=18&layers=M
http://www.cyclingshop-banjaluka.com/
From the venue we start not towards Hotel Bosna but to the opposite
direction and immediately turn left into that street with a lot of
cafés, "Miljosavljevića". We follow the road until the end (it's a
dead end for cars) and turn right, "Aleja svetog Save".
Follow the main street and turn the second possibility to the left,
"Gundulićeva". You should see a restaurant called "Fast Food Pizzeta"
on the next block. Follow the street until you see bicycles standing
on the right sideway.
Current route plan:
Summary: We'll see the outskirts and a surburb of Banja Luka, the
Castell, the place of the Ferhat Pasha Mosque and one (IMHO nice)
christian church. We'll ride along the river Vrbas quite often, we'll
ride on bicycle paths and calm streets, but at a few points also on
roads with quite some traffic. We'll cross parts of the railway tracks
around Banja Luka twice, cross the river Vrbas two times, and the
river Vrbanja once.
Details (for those who are interested):
From the bicycle shop we drive north towards the train station on the
bicycle path besides "Bulevar Srpske vojske". Before
the train station we turn right and take the bridge over the railway,
"Braće Pišteljića".
We cross the river Vrbas on a narrow hanging bridge (for cars :-) and
reach the village (or suburb) Česma.
There we either take the path on the dike around the village or turn
right inside the village, crossing the river Vrbanja on a new steel
work bridge.
We drive around some industry area and pass the railway again, this
time it's over us on a tiny steel bridge. Before we reach the river
Vrbas again we turn left ("Ada") and follow the river until the
cemetry "Rebrovač" with its (IMHO very nice) church and gate.
There we cross the river Vrbas and immediately turn left afterwards
into "Save Kovačevića" (which is a dead end for cars and therefore
with less traffic). We follow the river more or less until the castell
of Banja Luka. If possible again after DemoFest (wasn't possible again
today), we will go through the castell.
Outside the castell again, we'll cross the street "Téodora
Kolkotronisa" and follow "Patrijarha Makarija Skolovića". On our right
there is the place of the Ferhat Pasha Mosque[2].
[2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.76741&lon=17.18734&zoom=17&layers=M
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferhat_Pasha_Mosque
At the next street we turn right on the street which becomes "Kralja
Petra Karađorđevića" to head back towards Hotel Bosna and the venue.
We though have to get back to the bicycle shop, so we not necessarily
have to pass the venue, but can also use some of the parallel streets.
Kind regards, Axel
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[Debconf-discuss] Now 20 Bicycles, but start earlier (was: Re: Bicycling instead of running?)
Hi, I just was at the Tourist Office again as they wrote me, they have 5 more bicycles for us (i.e. now 20 bicycles), but they would like us to return them on the same day if we don't have a save storage for them overnight (which is very reasonable IMHO) as they have no locks. :-/ So we will probably start between 18:00 and 19:00 and return between 20:00 and 21:00. (Details to be announced.) On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:22:38AM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: > > If the whole trip should make any sense we should send a "delegation" (= > > people who might skip the last talk) to be there at 18:30 and others > > will head of right after the last talk to the bike rental and reach it a > > bit after 19:00 taking over the just preattached bikes gives us somehow > > twice the time as with your original plan. > > Sounds fine, but then all must skip dinner, too. Or take it after > coming back or in some restaurant. Since dinner seems to be available now up top 22:00, we could even be back for dinner in time. But we will have to spare out the last talk slot from 18:00 to 18:45. > BTW: Can we put a link to the bike shop on OSM into the wiki page? > (But first we must slightly correct its position in there. :-) Done btw., thanks Andreas. Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [OT] Bicycling instead of running?
Hi,
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:03:21PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:22:38AM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote:
> > > If the whole trip should make any sense we should send a "delegation" (=
> > > people who might skip the last talk) to be there at 18:30 and others
> > > will head of right after the last talk to the bike rental and reach it a
> > > bit after 19:00 taking over the just preattached bikes gives us somehow
> > > twice the time as with your original plan.
> >
> > Sounds fine, but then all must skip dinner, too. Or take it after
> > coming back or in some restaurant.
>
> Regarding myself I'm fine with having just two meals per day considering
> the amount of food available.
I lived that way for all DebCamp and DebConf so far, but that were
always lunch and dinner. ;-)
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] kfreebsd BoF
Hi, On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 06:22:13PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > is there interest in a kfreebsd BoF? If yes, I'll schedule it if nobody > else does since I want to hear what's happening around it :-) Would join there if it hasn't too bad time conflicts. :-) Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Bicycling instead of running?
Hi Andreas, On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 07:28:26PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > Maybe. Annette and me were at the bike shop this aftern and we > > reserved the bikes for Friday evening 20:00 at the bike shop. > > When thinking about this twice 20:00 might be quite late. Well, when we decided on that date, it was quite warm here over the day, so late sounded good. > Considering that handing out / adjusting 15 bikes takes some time we > will not start before 20:30. I suspect that rented bikes are > potentially not equipped with proper light we should be back at > least one hour after we started. The last thing is an argument. > If the whole trip should make any sense we should send a "delegation" (= > people who might skip the last talk) to be there at 18:30 and others > will head of right after the last talk to the bike rental and reach it a > bit after 19:00 taking over the just preattached bikes gives us somehow > twice the time as with your original plan. Sounds fine, but then all must skip dinner, too. Or take it after coming back or in some restaurant. > What about this? I'm generally fine with this, I mostly put it on that time because most evening activities start there because of the last talks and dinner. And because of the heat over the day. BTW: Can we put a link to the bike shop on OSM into the wiki page? (But first we must slightly correct its position in there. :-) Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please schedule your SkillsExchange sessions
Hi Kan-Ru, Kan-Ru Chen wrote: > As you offered a skills exchange session about basic Emacs operation, > how would you like it to be scheduled? Fine for me would be: Day 4 12:00-12:45 Day 3 16:00-16:45 Day 4 16:00-16:45 Day 5 16:00-16:45 preferred in that order. > We should do it soon, or we will have lesser available slots :) Feel free to request any of those slots and add me as second speaker or so. Otherwise I'd do that somewhen later this afternoon. Regards, Axel -- ,''`. | Axel Beckert , http://people.debian.org/~abe/ : :' : | Debian Developer, ftp.ch.debian.org Admin `. `' | 1024D: F067 EA27 26B9 C3FC 1486 202E C09E 1D89 9593 0EDE `-| 4096R: 2517 B724 C5F6 CA99 5329 6E61 2FF9 CD59 6126 16B5 ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Bicycling instead of running?
Hi, some more news from the bicycling front... On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 01:07:18PM +0200, micah anderson wrote: > There are at least two of us who signed up on the wiki after the 15, and > this email from Martín seems to indicate that there are three more who > would like to join, is it too late for those of us who did not see this > in time? Maybe. Annette and me were at the bike shop this aftern and we reserved the bikes for Friday evening 20:00 at the bike shop. We also asked them for other bike shops who possibly offer bikes for rental and they showed us the bike shop just a few meters farther, but they only sell bikes. We then went to the tourist office again to ask them again if they know another bike rental, but they told us the bike shop does the rental thing just on behalf of the tourist info. But the guy in the tourist info phoned around a little bit and seems to see some chance to get more bicycles. He will know more tomorrow morning or so, and promised to write me an e-mail tomorrow independently if he found other bikes or not. Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please schedule your SkillsExchange sessions
Hi Kan-Ru, On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 09:40:05PM +0800, Kan-Ru Chen wrote: > > Feel free to request any of those slots and add me as second speaker > > or so. Otherwise I'd do that somewhen later this afternoon. > > You should be the first speaker! Because you are going to talk about the > basic stuff; I can share the more advance topic when someone asks ;-) Yeah, but I was busy getting the bicycle tour ready during this afternoon (even missed one talk for that), so I was happy there is someone who could do it. In addition, that way we got a date which is fine for both more quickly as I just came back to the venue now and later will be involved in the Cheese and Wine party setup. > Anyway, I've submitted the request by now Thanks a lot! Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Bicycling instead of running?
Hi, On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 08:43:35PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Do we have a local volunteer to lead the tour Not yet but if some volunteer pops^Wsteps up, I'm happy. > or shall we make it up ourselves using OpenStreetMap ? Well, my idea was to have a look at the map for potentially interesting spots and make an exploration tour in advance, probably with Annette. > I would like to go and see the site of the Ferhat Pasha Mosque. Noted. > I don't know what else is noteworthy. Well, I planned to see if we can cycle along the river for a while. Don't have any more detailed plans yet. Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Bicycling instead of running?
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 06:00:08PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Tiago Bortoletto Vaz writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] Bicycling instead of
> running?"):
> > http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Bicycling
> > I've already added all people from this thread there.
Thanks for creating a wiki page!
> I have just added myself to this list. I am no.16, and no.1 (Axel)
> says "has his own bike here". That's exactly 15.
Annette comes with her own bike, too, I just put her on the list.
> I think this means we should try to book 15 bicycles, at least.
Will do so on Monday.
> I guess as (currently) the last on the list I'll get the least-good
> bike :-).
I hope that there is no such like a least-good bike.
> Do they do bookings ?
They basically requested to do so one day in advance.
I got the requested slot confirmed from the Talks Team, but I still
can't see it in Pentabarf, so I pinged them again.
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Additional meeting room
Hi Andreas, On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 04:53:30PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > 3. Send an e-mail to ta...@debian.org to request this free > slot That e-mail address bounces. I guess you meant ta...@debconf.org instead, right? Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Bicycling instead of running? -- Bike Rental found, date aimed at Day 4 (29.7.) in the evening
Hi together, On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 01:29:58AM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: > > I'll ask some of the locals and if they don't know anything, I have > > a reason for going for some exploration tour on the bike. ;-) > > One of the security guys downstairs told me that the Banja Luka > Tourist office on the opposite side of the street to Hotel Palace > rents bikes since this year, so I'll check out tomorrow. It's just a > few blocks from the venue and Hotel Bosna... Well they just pointed me to the one bike shop I already found on the net. A local guy who recognized Jonas and me as DebConf attendants helped us finding that bike shop and was also very helpful in talking with the tourist office and the guys at the bike shop. The bike shop is in walking distance (1km or so) towards the north east (I think :-) close to the stadium and has 15 bikes available for renting. One bike costs 15KM per day and they want an ID from a local as debit. (So if some local team member wants to join us... :-) We should reserve the bikes at least one day in advance. They don't have open on Sundays, but I got the mobile number from one of the bike shop guys. Regarding the date: Joost also showed interest in the bicycle tour by private mail, but he arrives only on Tuesday (26.7., Day 2) evening. The day after that (27.7.) is the Day Trip. So only an evening date during DebConf looks reasonable, also because of the necessarity to reserve the bikes one day in advance. On Day 2 (26.7.) there is the Cheese & Wine party at 21h and for preparations I should be there earlier. Before that there's the group photo from 18:45 to 19:00. On Day 3 (28.7.) there is the Conference Banquet starting at 20h while Andreas' Debian Med BoF ends only arount 19h. The time in between is too short for a more or less organized bike tour IMHO and we probably want to have dinner anyway. :-) Day 4 (29.7.) has no activity in Pentabarf after 19h, so maybe that would be the best date for something organized, because I think after the closing ceremony maybe the first ones are already leaving. Will try to put it into Pentabarf (in the hope that we won't have 100 attendants afterwards :-) Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Bicycling instead of running?
Hi, On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:41:59PM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: > I'll ask some of the locals and if they don't know anything, I have > a reason for going for some exploration tour on the bike. ;-) One of the security guys downstairs told me that the Banja Luka Tourist office on the opposite side of the street to Hotel Palace rents bikes since this year, so I'll check out tomorrow. It's just a few blocks from the venue and Hotel Bosna... I'll let you know what I found out there. Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Bicycling instead of running?
Hi, Didier Raboud wrote: > if there are bikes available around (even to rent), I would be very happy > to. I'll take a look when I arrive around Banja Luka. Andreas Tille wrote: > I'd be interested in renting a bike - if possible. Any hint? Damyan Ivanov wrote: > I'd like to try this, but don't have my bycicle with me :) > > Is there a bycicle rental shop around? I'll ask some of the locals and if they don't know anything, I have a reason for going for some exploration tour on the bike. ;-) Regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Bicycling instead of running?
Hi, as I'm not into running, but into bicycling and have my folding bike with me, I wonder if anyone else would like to do a bicycling tour once during DebConf. Nothing big, maybe once around the city or so. Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Border/Customs Inspections Slovenia/Croatia/Bosnia
Hi Marc, On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 04:27:56PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > I would like to know how "hard" the border inspections are once one > leaves Schengenland. Is a German Citizen with a bag full of technical > stuff including two notebooks calling for trouble, or are croatian and > bosnian border officials rather relaxed? With my camper van I seem to have looked like a normal tourist and when showing my German Personalausweis, they always just asked, if I'm travelling alone. Nobody wanted to see my luggage or fridge. And nobody asked why my camper van has a Swiss number plate while I'm showing a German ID. At the Croatian-Bosnian border I got asked something by one of the four (!) persons who wanted to see my ID, but it was in a language I didn't understand. And after answering the question with "English or German, please", they just waved that I should go on. At the Italian-Slovenian border (i.e. a Schengenland border) there was not even someone looking or asking for anything. Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] lower hacklab
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:22:47AM -0300, Tássia Camões wrote: > Le 21 juillet 2011 10:31, Axel Beckert a écrit : > > To clarify this confusing thread: Otavio arrived and he can't get to > > the upper hacklab, so it's fairer towards him if you use the lower > > hacklab instead of the upper one. > > We should avoid dealing with this issue as a special treatment to > Otavio. It was agreed many months ago that there would be no hacklabs > or talk rooms not accessible and we failed to keep that decision That explains Holger's strange and confusing wording. Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] lower hacklab
Hi, On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 02:29:52PM +0200, micah anderson wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:29:44 +0200, Holger Levsen > wrote: > > I would like to remind everyone that the upper floor is not existent for > > the > > s/not/now > > > purposes of this conference. So please use the lower hacklab if possible. To clarify this confusing thread: Otavio arrived and he can't get to the upper hacklab, so it's fairer towards him if you use the lower hacklab instead of the upper one. Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] V Pay cards at ATMs in Bosnia and Croatia
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:17:08AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > Yes, Maestro and Cirrus are linked, probably inextricably these days. > > BTW to put you at ease further, > http://www.mastercard.us/cardholder-services/atm-locator.html > shows 48 locations in Banja Luka. FWIW, my home bank also told me that even all ATMs which support Mastercard also should support Maestro (and showed me basically the same website, just not the US version). Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf dress code (was: Banski Dvor do's and don'ts)
Hi, On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 05:37:16PM +0200, Adnan Hodzic wrote: > > Any kind of shoes and clothes will do. The problem was that David was > > barefoot. > > I am sorry to impose this on you, i personally don't see a problem if > > someone wants to walk without shoes. > > I absolutely agree with this, and am of opinion that people > could/should walk looking whatever they want to. If you want I could > talk to somebody so this could/would be tolerated in future. I think that would be appreciated by many of us in case you see a chance (without making them even more angry :-). For me, this rule sounds like driving cabriolets is bad because in the early days, cars had no hard roof, too. Our operating system is all about freedom, so I can really understand anyone who gets angry if someone else imposes rules which cut our freedom in other areas. Kind regards, Axel (who is allergic to dress codes) -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf dress code (was: Banski Dvor do's and don'ts)
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 05:24:10PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Montag, 18. Juli 2011, Giovanni Mascellani wrote: > > Since I'm planning to have sandals too, please let me know if there are > > problems with them. > > by all means, please wear sandals! it's pretty hot here and if you wear > closed > shoes your feet will become smelly and debconf will stink ;) I sweat also in my sandals. My feet sweat and stink less if I take them off (which I also do in the hacklab). Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] V Pay cards at ATMs in Bosnia and Croatia
Hi, On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:11:55AM +0100, Jose Calhariz wrote: > I think the ATM at Hotel Bosna only accepts Visa. I have a Maestro debit > Card and it didn't work. I heard that from two more people (Jeroen and IIRC dkg). But I had no problems to get money with my (chip having) Maestro card at another ATM of the same bank (but in Bihac though). Even the longer than four digits PIN code worked fine despite I had problems with that in Sweden four years ago. Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debian Merchandising
Hi, On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 02:20:21AM -0600, Marcelo Gutierrez wrote: > 2011/7/7 Velimir Iveljic > > If you have some other ideas, please share! > > > > Maybe someone could set up a wiki where: Please learn how to quote. The sentence "Maybe someone could set up a wiki where:" is not from Velimir. > || X person || List merch you have to sell || Hotel & Room number || e-mail > || The wiki page you're looking for is http://wiki.debian.org/Merchandise And the list who will bring what is what you quoted in your full quote. I quoted the _relevant_ part for reference here again: > > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 12:25:02PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote: [...] > > >> > > >>DebConf11 is now two weeks ahead, so it is time to get things done™, so > > >>I would like to: > > >> > > >>- know if we plan to have a shop for the Debian Day to plan the > > >> merchandise needed. > > >> > > >>- send debian.ch merchandise at the beginning of the next week, thus I > > >> need a postal address in Banja Luka. Please note that there is a > > >> remote possibility that debian.ch stuff will arrive with someone from > > >> Switzerland, but this is far to be decided, yet. > > >> > > >>- order some Credativ merchandise which will must sent to Banja Luka > > >> (AFAIK Alexander Wirt is not coming to DebConf11, but I do not know > > >> for other Credativ guys), thus I need the same postal address as > > >> above... > > >> > > >>Is there any particular detail I should know for the shipments? > > > > > > I'm thinking we might also be able to squeeze in a box of Ts from the > > > UK too, but not 100% sure yet. We'll also only be arriving late in the [...] Result of this thread was so far, that only Debian.ch will bring some merch for sure and possibly Debian UK will bring some, too, because no one could give us a postal address where to send the merch to in advance. I don't think we need a wiki page for one to two groups which will bring merchandising stuff which very likely will be sold together anyway. Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] DayTrip status?
Hi, On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 03:38:28PM +0200, NVO DIVA wrote: > DayTrip will be a picknick on river of Vrbas.Those who want to do > rafting can do rafting, others can walk around through canyon and > enjoy the nature, or enjoy bicycles or quad motorcycles. For those who > don't want to do any of these activities will be able to enjoy food > and drinks at the compound which consists of restaurant and a bar. > Ending point of those who do rafting will be this place where > everybody will be eating/drinking thus nobody will be separated and we > should all be at the same spot. Sounds great for me. I plan to have my folding bike with me like at DebConf in Caceres, so I'd be one of those who would go bicycling. :-) Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] 3G prepaid cards for Banja Luka region
Hi Vedran, thanks a lot for your comprehensive comparison! It's very useful. One small correction: On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:28:10AM +0200, vedran wrote: > In most cases you can get prepaid SIM card for 5 KM ~ 3.6$ ~ 2.5€ [...] > [1 KM = 1.955 € and ~ 1.4$] The first line is correct, but the second line is the wrong way round, it should be: [1 € = 1.955 KM and 1 $ ~ 1.4 KM] Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Place for camper vans (or tents) near DebConf11?
Hi, On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 01:34:31AM +0100, Wookey wrote: > +++ Axel Beckert [2011-04-29 01:41 +0200]: > > For now we seem to be two camper vans (Wookey and me). > > Just to clarify. My camper-plan has had to be abandoned [...] :-( Anyway, my camper-plan has solidified :-) although I'm still not 100% sure if coming with camper van is really a good idea despite I really would like to. :-/ > So it's just you, Axel. And I'm expected to stay with that plan as my camper's fridge has already been occupied by gismo's and OdyX's plans for the wine & cheese party. And I must admit: Swiss Cheese Fondue or Raclette would fit perfectly for the wine & cheese party. ;-) According to http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/TravelInfo#Parking there are quite some car parkings around the venue. Since there are prices per day listed, I expect it's fine to park there for two weeks. Anyone can tell me if it's also ok to stay (and sleep) there with a camper van (from the parking's owner's as well as from a security point of view)? I currently ogle with P2 to P5 as they're close by the venue. (I though suspect there's no chance to get 220V power on those car parkings.) According to Google Maps[1] most of the car parkings seem to be without height restriction, so they should be fine for my camper (5.6m x 2.3m x 3.1m) from a size point of view. [1] http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.772787,17.190996&spn=0.004082,0.006427&t=h&z=18&lci=com.panoramio.all In the meanwhile I also found a few camping sites around Banja Luka, but none of them really close. Besides posting them here I also added them to http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Accommodation#Camping plus a cross-reference at http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/TravelInfo#Camping_Sites as that was the place where I looked first. 25km south of Banja Luka: http://www.banjaluka360.com/sights_and_activities_camping_krupa.htm http://www.localyte.com/attraction/54247--Camping-site-Krupa-na-Vrbasu-Republic-of-Srpska--Bosnia%2Band%2BHerzegovina--Serbian%2BRepublic--Banja%2BLuka http://www.nileguide.com/destination/banja-luka-bosnia-and-herzegovina/hotels/krupa-na-vrbasu-camp/1171033 Also mentioned in http://www.bhtourism.ba/Campsites2010.pdf 24km, probably towards the south, too: http://www.banjaluka360.com/sights_and_activities_camping_stone_bridge.htm 40km: http://www.banjaluka360.com/sights_and_activities_camping_ljekarice.htm http://en.camping.info/bosnia-herzegovina/bosnia-herzegovina/eco-turizam-ljekarice-22195 All others on http://www.bhtourism.ba/Campsites2010.pdf and http://www.banjaluka360.com/sights_and_activities_camping.htm#CA1 are more than 40km away. Oh, and guess what I found (even without entering "debian", just with "banja luka camping"): "Debian Camping 11" at http://grical.org/e/show/193/ O.o Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Place for camper vans (or tents) near DebConf11?
Hi, On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:21:53PM +0200, Adnan Hodzic wrote: > > I've been in Banja Luka during the summer for many years, but I can't > > recall ever seen a place for putting up a tent, really. > > I'm going to Banja Luka on Thursday for a meeting with Mayor, do you > want me to organize something? To have a spot set up or whatever? Is > there need for this as I'm uncertain of how many campers would be > there. I initially didn't notice that this question went more or less also to me, too. For now we seem to be two camper vans (Wookey and me). If we have access to some toilet rooms and showers, I'd say having a place(*) to put the van and a power socket close by (15-50m should suffice) should be ok. Close to the venue would be cool. (I imagine something like the parking slots in front of the entrance at DebConf9 in Caceres.) (*) slightly bigger than normal car's parking slot, like 6m long and 3m wide, but it depends a lot on the campervan. They commonly range from 5m x 2m to > 7m x 2.3m. > > Velimir Iveljic skrev 2011-04-10 14:54: > >> I apologize for reacting late, but i was busy last few days. > >> > >> Regarding camping places, i will have to check with someone from Banja > >> Luka and will give you an answer soon! Any news here? Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Place for camper vans (or tents) near DebConf11?
Hi, I'm thinking about coming to DebConf11 with a camper van. Is there a place nearby the venue where you can stay with a camper van (or tent)? I haven't found any camping site information on http://www.banjaluka-tourism.com/index.php?option=com_sobi2&catid=20&Itemid=0&lang=en or http://www.banjaluka-tourism.com/index.php?searchword=camping&option=com_search&lang=en so far. Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News| a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debian Merchandise BoF?
Hi,
Luca Capello wrote:
> Hi there or, better, here :-)
I'm not here, eh, there, but anyway:
> Since together with Debian-UK it seems that debian.ch is the other major
> entity who produce Debian merchandise,
You forgot Alexander "formorer" Wirt who supplies nearly every Debian
booth in Germany with merchandising. I'm quite sure he sells more
stickers and t-shirts than Debian.ch does.
> during the first night in NYC I thought that maybe a merchandise BoF
> could be a good thing, also to let people attending
> conferences/meetings/whatever how to get merchandise.
Sounds like good idea despite not being in NYC.
Just my $0.02.
P.S.: I'm more or less not subscribed to debconf-discuss during a
DebConf I don't attend.
Regards, Axel
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Badges are at the front desk
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 08:05:35PM +, César Gómez Martín wrote:
> You will have some images on the badge that mean:
> - Tofu hamburguer: you don't have to buy food tickets.
Doesn't that mean: "You don't have to pay for your food"?
Because I have no Tofu burger on my badge, payed for my food, but was
told I need no tickets though. So do I still get my lunch and dinner
with no burger on the badge and no tickets for food?
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Table tennis tournament?
Hi Wouter, On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 08:25:36PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Since there's a table tennis table, and it seems unused for most of the > time (although not /all/ the time), I wonder: would there be interest in > a table tennis tournament? There is. > I'd think that would be nice, but of course holding a tournament all by > yourself isn't going to get you much of anywhere... I'm sure, Kurt Gramlich (k4x) will also join. He had this idea already, too. > If there is sufficient interest, I hereby volunteer to organize the > details. Cool, thx! Regards, Your recent table tennis opponent. ;-) -- Axel Beckert - a...@deuxchevaux.org, a...@noone.org - http://noone.org/abe/ ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Volunteers wanted, meeting tonight!
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:02:04AM +0300, Damyan Ivanov wrote:
> > - Signs need to be hung around the venue signaling how to get here.
>
> I can prepare whatever kinds of signs are needed. What I need though
> is somebody to walk around/inside the venue, take notes and present me
> with a list of signs, noting the text needed as well as any arrows if
> appropriate. If the signs are too many, we can split the work.
JFTR: I'm that person.
Regards, Axel
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