Re: [Debconf-discuss] "vintage" phone power charger requested
On 2017-08-08 13:35, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote: Anybody has a phone power charger which fits my Nokia 108 Dual SIM Microsoft Mobile RM-944? These cheap dumb phones where produced in 2013/2014, they don't charge via USB. My phone is about to loose power, it'd be cool if I could use a charger for a couple of hours, one of these days. I'm using a simple Nokia from 2013, probably a Nokia 100. Catch me around the conference to see if the socket looks compatible. Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf13
On 2013-06-28 20:59, Raphaël Walther wrote: Thanks for writing. Regarding transportation we have collected many information on: http://debconf13.debconf.org/travel.xhtml There is one bus per hour during the day from Yverdon-les-Bains to Le Camp. The bus will take you in 32 minutes to "Le Camp". From Lausanne to "Le Camp", it will take one hour. You can check on the following website: http://www.sbb.ch/en/home.html Type in "camp vaumarcus" as a destination. It was previously asserted that there will be many volunteers with cars to chauffeur around people who don't have their own transport. Perhaps some of these many volunteers can pick up people like Tobias? -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] DebConf14 bids
The deadline for DebConf14 bids passed yesterday. It appears that we have two bids: Puerto La Cruz, Venezuela https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/PuertoLaCruz Portland, USA https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/Portland Please read through the pages from both bids, and ask questions about them on debconf-team. Where possible, please ask questions in general terms rather than asking only one team, though of course you may also want to seek clarification about specific points in the information provided by bids. Please make sure that you choose an appropriate subject line, and start a new thread if you are asking questions on a new topic. The next formal stage of the bid process will be the bid status meeting: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Bid_process#Bid_status_meeting We should try to hold that meeting soon (next weekend, or the week after?), but it's best to ask questions about the bids *before* the meeting -- the more topics are clear before the bid status meeting, the closer we can schedule the venue decision meeting. -- Moray signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Information about accommodation at le camp (photos and plans) ·
On 2012-11-26 21:55, Joey Hess wrote: Remember that most of the happy people shown here were enjoying DebConf accomidations that consisted of the floor of a gymnasium and whatever sleeping gear they'd packed. On 2012-11-26 11:32, Moray Allan wrote: If I may provide the shortcut shortcut to the next step of the circular discussion: I don't think people are complaining about the standard of the sponsored accommodation in itself, but rather because this seems to be the only option most people will realistically have (see other recent mails for more detailed discussion about distances/prices/availability of other options). In Oslo and Edinburgh only a minority of people stayed in the DebConf sponsored accommodation. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Staff t-shirts
If you have been doing volunteer work for DebConf (taskmeister, front desk, laundry team, etc. etc.), and do not yet have a staff t-shirt, please claim one from Front Desk as soon as possible. (I also know some people didn't originally get their preferred size; in that case, you can try again from the new supply.) -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Travel after DebConf
Some of us will be lucky enough to stay a few days more in Nicaragua after DebConf. If you are staying longer, and are potentially interested in coordinating some travel with other attendees, there is a wiki page where you can add details of your plans: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf12/TravelCoordination -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] DebCamp on Planet Debian
If you are attending DebCamp (and especially if you have been sponsored to do so), please consider posting to Planet Debian about the work you are doing here to improve Debian. Debian relies on our sponsors' support to make DebCamp possible. It's good if we can demonstrate to them that DebCamp isn't just a holiday, and also isn't just an extended DebConf setup period, but is a useful event in itself which they should be happy to support. A Debian mailing list may be more appropriate for the specific details of your work, but posting to Planet gives us something easier to point to (even if the post is just a sentence or two). Planet posts are often also useful material for us to include (with permission) in the DebConf Final Report. Please remember to mention in any posts that you are at DebCamp, if the content doesn't already make this clear. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Front Desk
We still need more volunteers for shifts on the Front Desk. Since the Front Desk is in the hacklab, sitting there won't tear you away from hacking or IRC, and you get to meet everyone as they come to register. You can add yourself to the shift plan here: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf12/Frontdesk/Shifts If these initial slots all get filled, we would like to extend the opening hours on some days, as many people arrive at DebConf later in the evening. If you might be able to help, please look for me or Gema around the Front Desk, this afternoon or subsequently, and we can provide training -- no prior experience is required! Thanks, -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Badge adjustment
If you have a black plastic bead between your neck and your DebConf12 badge, then you are probably wearing your badge non-optimally. If you instead locate the bead behind your neck, then you can use it to adjust the position of the badge in front of you. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Unattended laptops
During DebConf, please remember that we can't guarantee security for your laptop or other property, especially if you leave it unattended in the hacklab. No one will stop you doing that, but it's at your own risk. (In case you're wondering, no, there have been no problems of property going missing yet, and I hope there won't be any.) -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Adapter for US powerplugs
On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 09:30 -0500, Victor Martinez wrote: > Hi!, yes if you had the ground type B2A (NEMA 5, two blades + ground > round blade) you need an adapter for the more common on Nema 1 (two > blades only) But also note if your equipment is designed to be grounded, it may be unsafe to operate like this without a ground connection. It should be fine for normal laptops etc., though. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debian Jackets
On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 18:31 -0600, Eduardo Rosales wrote: > No really, if you are XL europe size, maybe you are XXL USA size. I'm > not sure. Usually size N European size is close to size N-1 USA size. So if Holger says the jackets are small, I suspect they are not really normal USA sizes. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debian Jackets
On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 09:44 -0600, Felix Delattre wrote: > Unfortunately there is no website. The sizes available are from S to XXL > and they said they have a 15-16 (which is smaller than S). My question was about what these names actually mean (e.g. chest measurement): there is no international standard for what is "S" / "M" / "L" etc., and there are significant variations between countries as well as between producers. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debian Jackets
On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 01:41 -0600, Felix Delattre wrote: > You can obtain your Debian embroided raincoat (remember we are in the > rainy season) in Managua. Thanks, they look good. Do you have any information on the sizes? (Maybe some page on the web already has information for the type of jacket you are using?) -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Visa map
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 13:45 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > I just found this website, it seems exremely useful for folks looking > at multi-country trips before/after DebConf. This looks useful, but not entirely accurate. For example, glancing at the information it gives for UK citizens, I notice it says that visas are required for Argentina, which disagrees with more official information. There is a similar (but more accurate?) map at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_British_nationals (Note that in this case the colours are focused on whether a visa is needed before arrival -- see the table before for full details.) Category page, to find similar visa Wikipedia maps for citizenship of other countries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Visa_requirements_by_nationality -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] DebConf staff t-shirts
We got some additional 'Staff' t-shirts printed. If you have been doing work for DebConf outside the video team (front desk, talk arrangements, etc.) and don't yet have a staff t-shirt, please come to the front desk to claim one. Also please encourage others who have been doing work for DebConf, but haven't realised yet that they are entitled to a staff t-shirt, to claim theirs! -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Small t-shirts
If you wanted a small t-shirt when you registered, but only received a larger size because we had run out, please visit the front desk and ask for one from the new batch. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Final report
If you're attending DebConf, or watching the talks remotely, please consider making a contribution to the final report: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/FinalReport If you've already written (or write later) blog posts about DebConf, then adding links for those to the page would be helpful. If you've participated in any way in DebConf organisation, then we'd appreciate you taking five minutes more to contribute to the relevant report section. (It's much easier to do this now than in a few weeks'/months' time when our memories are fading!) Thanks, -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] For those who care about the day trip
Please sign up so that we can get the right number of buses: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/DayTrip -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Organiser team meetings
Just a quick note to those thinking of bidding for a future DebConf, and to other interested people: The daily organiser meetings are happening at 2 p.m. in the meeting room (next to the 'round room' with talks). They're a chance for quick face-to-face transfers of information between the organisers, not a forum for other attendees to raise topics directly, but interested people who want to get more involved in the DebConf team are still welcome to join the organising team by attending. (If you're thinking of bidding, you should of course be reading the debconf-team list and IRC channel, but I guess not everyone is yet.) -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Wanted: Talk Meisters!
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > The talks team is asking for volunteers who would coordinate talks on > a half day each. Another useful task is to locate the speakers, if they haven't arrived a while before the session starts! (The coordinator shouldn't run around the venue/hotel themself, but they should make sure the person gets found.) -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Visit to cheese-making monastery in Banja Luka
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Andreas Tille wrote: > Thanks for organising. Seems the list is quite full. As someone who > nearly reached the limit of "about 20" who is concerned about others: Is > the limiting factor the means of transportation or the capacity of the > monastry? The Banja Luka locals are organising this, not me. :) As I understand it, the current total of people is close enough to 20 for the capacity constraints, so there will only be an afternoon visit, including people who already signed up for the morning. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Doboj railway station and bus terminal distance
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Jeremy Baron wrote: > Yes, also there's apparently a river in between. And a bridge. :) -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Doboj railway station and bus terminal distance
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Gabor Kum wrote: > Could somebody tell me how to go/travel from Doboj railway station to the bus > terminal (from where buses are to Banja Luka)? > I couldn't find a good city map. Not quite answering your question, but about the map -- Jeremy looked at OpenStreetMap earlier and it appeared that they were about 600m apart, depending on where the entrances/exits to either actually are. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Museum visit
A few of us are thinking of visiting the local museum (even though it's not expected to be particularly exciting!) this evening, around 18.00. Speak to sebyte for more information. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Visit to cheese-making monastery in Banja Luka
We hope to organise a visit to the local Trappist monastery tomorrow afternoon, probably leaving from Banski Dvor at 14:30. This may be of interest to the cheese cabal, as they continue to make and sell their own cheese. (They used to make beer as well, but unfortunately there are not enough monks left to continue this!) If you would to come along, please sign up here: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/CheeseMonastery If there is enough interest, we will also organise a visit in the morning -- the monks have their lunch at 12.30, so the tour would need to be finished before that. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] The not-so-formal "formal dinner" wear
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > Excuse a n00b, but I take it one's not expected to wear suit and tie for the > conference dinner. Any other reason to bring a suit? We tried to stop calling it "formal dinner" a while ago, because of this confusion. :) Most people just wear their regular geek-hanging-out clothes for the conference dinner, though of course you're allowed to dress up specially if you want to, like any other day. The only reason I can think of to bring a suit would be if you want to make some business proposal to the various politicians who might be passing by the conference. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] SIM cards for DebConf11 attendees
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:09 PM, micah anderson wrote: > It seems like my phone is asking for a PIN password when I boot up with > this SIM. Entering either the PIN or the PUK on the back of the card > does not work. Perhaps this is an indication that the phone is not > unlocked? If so, is there no possibility to unlock this? Not exactly answering your question, but my phone didn't ask for any code (whereas it does with my normal SIM card where I'd set one). -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > so if start out handing sim cards tomorrow, someone will have to take notes > until _all_ sim cards where given away. penta flag? -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Beta testing Zagreb-Banja Luka bus
Trying again, as it seems this didn't get anywhere yet: On 7/17/11, Moray Allan wrote: > Hi, > > I just arrived in Banja Luka a little while ago, after beta testing > the connections from Zagreb airport. I of course wanted to make sure > that this was a fair test, so: > > - It was arranged that the plane escaped from London Heathrow an hour > late after a long wait for a take-off slot following boarding, > reducing my two hour connection time in Zagreb to one hour. > > - To make sure that I was tired out, I spent the flight reading a > novel in Spanish while the child next to me distracted me by singing > and trying to draw on my arm, and the baby two seats over cried > loudly. > > On arrival at Zagreb, I as usual chose an appropriate standing > location on the bus from plane to terminal so that I was towards the > front of the queue for passport control, and was then lucky that my > bag was one of the first onto the conveyor belt. These bits might > seem like cheating, but, sorry, I did want to try to catch the first > bus to Banja Luka. > > Reverting to non-cheating mode (and since I had some, but not much, > Croatian money with me) I left the airport terminal and put my luggage > in the bus directly outside and got on it, around 21.15, after being > assured by the driver that yes it was going to the bus station and it > would leave in "five minutes", instead of looking for a taxi to the > bus station. After a while the driver came through the bus selling > tickets (30 Kn each). I noticed that one couple didn't have local > currency, and the driver appeared to accept €10 for the two of them > instead. > > The bus left between 21.25 and 21.30 after it was almost full, and > took 20-25 minutes to reach its terminus at the bus station, arriving > about 21.50. It stopped a couple of times on the way, but these were > fairly obviously just brief roadside halts. The bus stopped in an > overspill car park outside the main bus station area, and the obvious > pedestrian entrance/exit from this area was closed (perhaps just > because it was the evening), so I left via the way we'd come in, > crossing over to the main bus station. After checking the way with > someone waiting for a bus, I then went upstairs (just taking any of > the stairs going up from the bus 'platforms') and followed the "exit" > signs along to the ticket desks. There was some complicated signage > above these, but the guy at the first desk I tried was happy to sell > me a ticket for the 22.00 bus to Banja Luka (108 Kn, as the wiki had > said). He pointed out to me the platform number (marked "PERON" on > the ticket). > > After going back along and down the stairs to the right place, I found > the bus waiting, and put my bag in the hold. This time there was a 12 > Kn fee for checking a bag, in return for which I got a receipt > matching a tag put on the bag. (This is fairly standard on Balkan > buses, but doesn't apply to the bus from the airport to the bus > station.) The main ticket had something that may have been a seat > number, but if it was then people were ignoring them to spread out -- > the bus was about half full. > > We arrived at the Croatian border about 23.40, and left the Bosnian > border about 00.20. At the Croatian border we all had to get off the > bus, show our passports, then get back on one by one, while at the > Bosnian border someone collected all the passports from us on the bus, > and took them off to stamp, then someone from the bus company gave > them back to us after we had started driving again. > > At about 00.40 we stopped at a cafe for people to smoke/use the > toilets/stretch their legs, departing again about 1.05. > > We arrived at the Banja Luka bus station at about 1.35. Some time > before this we'd passed a big sign for the city and a second sign with > a long list of twinned towns; the bus station itself was mostly just > an open-air car park, but they announced "Banja Luka" over the bus > speakers as we drove in, and it was the first major stop of the > journey. (A few people had got off immediately after the border > earlier.) > > At this time of night it wasn't completely obvious which way to go > from the bus, but while I was looking around, a taxi driver spotted me > and offered his services. By the end of the ride to Hotel Bosna the > meter was at about 8 KM. As I didn't have the right money for this, I > told him to wait -- he didn't speak English, but mentioning 'bank' and > leaving my bags in the car gave the right message -- and popped into > the hotel lobby to use the ATM there. (If I hadn't known there was an > ATM in the Hote
[Debconf-discuss] Beta testing Zagreb-Banja Luka bus
Hi, I just arrived in Banja Luka a little while ago, after beta testing the connections from Zagreb airport. I of course wanted to make sure that this was a fair test, so: - It was arranged that the plane escaped from London Heathrow an hour late after a long wait for a take-off slot following boarding, reducing my two hour connection time in Zagreb to one hour. - To make sure that I was tired out, I spent the flight reading a novel in Spanish while the child next to me distracted me by singing and trying to draw on my arm, and the baby two seats over cried loudly. On arrival at Zagreb, I as usual chose an appropriate standing location on the bus from plane to terminal so that I was towards the front of the queue for passport control, and was then lucky that my bag was one of the first onto the conveyor belt. These bits might seem like cheating, but, sorry, I did want to try to catch the first bus to Banja Luka. Reverting to non-cheating mode (and since I had some, but not much, Croatian money with me) I left the airport terminal and put my luggage in the bus directly outside and got on it, around 21.15, after being assured by the driver that yes it was going to the bus station and it would leave in "five minutes", instead of looking for a taxi to the bus station. After a while the driver came through the bus selling tickets (30 Kn each). I noticed that one couple didn't have local currency, and the driver appeared to accept €10 for the two of them instead. The bus left between 21.25 and 21.30 after it was almost full, and took 20-25 minutes to reach its terminus at the bus station, arriving about 21.50. It stopped a couple of times on the way, but these were fairly obviously just brief roadside halts. The bus stopped in an overspill car park outside the main bus station area, and the obvious pedestrian entrance/exit from this area was closed (perhaps just because it was the evening), so I left via the way we'd come in, crossing over to the main bus station. After checking the way with someone waiting for a bus, I then went upstairs (just taking any of the stairs going up from the bus 'platforms') and followed the "exit" signs along to the ticket desks. There was some complicated signage above these, but the guy at the first desk I tried was happy to sell me a ticket for the 22.00 bus to Banja Luka (108 Kn, as the wiki had said). He pointed out to me the platform number (marked "PERON" on the ticket). After going back along and down the stairs to the right place, I found the bus waiting, and put my bag in the hold. This time there was a 12 Kn fee for checking a bag, in return for which I got a receipt matching a tag put on the bag. (This is fairly standard on Balkan buses, but doesn't apply to the bus from the airport to the bus station.) The main ticket had something that may have been a seat number, but if it was then people were ignoring them to spread out -- the bus was about half full. We arrived at the Croatian border about 23.40, and left the Bosnian border about 00.20. At the Croatian border we all had to get off the bus, show our passports, then get back on one by one, while at the Bosnian border someone collected all the passports from us on the bus, and took them off to stamp, then someone from the bus company gave them back to us after we had started driving again. At about 00.40 we stopped at a cafe for people to smoke/use the toilets/stretch their legs, departing again about 1.05. We arrived at the Banja Luka bus station at about 1.35. Some time before this we'd passed a big sign for the city and a second sign with a long list of twinned towns; the bus station itself was mostly just an open-air car park, but they announced "Banja Luka" over the bus speakers as we drove in, and it was the first major stop of the journey. (A few people had got off immediately after the border earlier.) At this time of night it wasn't completely obvious which way to go from the bus, but while I was looking around, a taxi driver spotted me and offered his services. By the end of the ride to Hotel Bosna the meter was at about 8 KM. As I didn't have the right money for this, I told him to wait -- he didn't speak English, but mentioning 'bank' and leaving my bags in the car gave the right message -- and popped into the hotel lobby to use the ATM there. (If I hadn't known there was an ATM in the Hotel Bosna lobby, I'd have asked him to stop at a bank on the way, given that I hadn't waited around to look for a possible ATM around the bus terminal.) After paying the taxi-driver and collecting my bag, giving my passport (along with a greeting) was sufficient for the guy on the hotel check-in desk to find me on a list of DebConf people and give me a room key. I'm just writing this note from the hotel wireless while I remember details, and look forward to meeting up with everyone here in the morning. :) -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Telephone number
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Philip Hands wrote: > I _think_ the US number was 02031378790 (or perhaps 1822026) but > we'd need to check if these are still callable. If people will be calling this while travelling, a European number sounds more logical anyway. > I still have access to the DC7 number in Edinburgh (+44 (0)131516875), > which we could also use, although perhaps easier to request a new one > From Gradwell, than to relly on a freebie from sipgate. Yes, though an Edinburgh number has the advantage of being amusing! Thinking of phones, EU-residents should note that as Bosnia is *not* EU, mobile roaming does not benefit from the EU price caps, but is rather more expensive. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] mini cheatsheet page for Zagreb airport<->Zagreb central bus station?
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Marcelo Gutierrez wrote: > Hi holger, what do you mean by outside security? On arrival, he means: after you have been through passport control, collected your luggage and gone out through customs to the more public area of the airport. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Passports on Zagreb to Banja Luka
We should try to put this reminder in any final set of information sent out to people, but to spread the idea a bit while I remember: If you are travelling in a bus from Zagreb to Banja Luka, remember to keep your passport (or European Union ID card) with you, not in your bag in the luggage compartment! The border crossing from Croatia to Bosnia and Herzegovina is quite relaxed, but you *do* need to show identity documents. If the bus has to park and wait while you to find your passport, you may be quite unpopular with the other passengers -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] "Behind the scenes with the DebConf team", 2011-07-14, #debian-meeting
This Thursday I'll be running a special IRC session: "Behind the scenes with the DebConf team" When: 19 UTC on 2011-07-14 Where: #debian-meeting on irc.debian.org (OFTC) Log: http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/debian-meeting (after the session has finished!) This is an open session aimed at anyone who would like to find out more about how DebConf is organised. Of course, we'd love you to get involved in organising it yourself, by helping out at DebConf11 or helping plan future DebConfs, but it's also fine just to attend the session just because you are curious! -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] 08:53 train from Zagreb to Banja Luka
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: > Just as a FYI, in Finland the conductors do carry around specialised > devices that can read all mayor (and some minor) credit cards and > debit cards so you can buy a ticket. They don't support chip though, > so they only read the magnetic stripe. Very much like they do on the > low cost airplanes where you buy food/drinks. Is this a competition? I think that the devices they carry on UK trains use the chip in the card, but I could be wrong. However, what exists on the trains in the Balkans may be more relevant for DebConf. :) -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Shuttles/Buses from Zagreb to Banja Luka cancelled
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Yes, I fear that buses are precisely what's being cancelled. To (not really) clarify: there has been some negative change and/or confusion within the local organisation. For the part that's relevant here, the global team spent months at the start of the DebConf11 process saying that shuttle buses would be difficult and rather expensive to arrange, because people arrive at different times over a week, not all together. Eventually we gave up saying this, as we were told it was no problem to arrange and would be paid for by direct sponsorship, whatever was needed. Yesterday it seems they looked at the arrival times, and realised that it would be difficult and rather expensive to arrange. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf11-localteam] Shuttles/Buses from Zagreb to Banja Luka cancelled
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Adnan, or localteam, or whoever: Some of us will be arriving quite > late to Zagreb and will need to arrange for a night there. Is there > any hotel recommendations? Something cheap and not far from the bus > station? I suggest asking the Croatian local team (i.e. Josip Rodin) this, not Adnan et al. But, if the gap between last and first bus is four hours, it's not clear that taking a hotel is worthwhile for people tight on money -- you would be likely to spend several hours even if you just look for the hotel, check in, go the room and immediately leave and check out again! -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] FAQ Laundry
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Marcelo Gutierrez wrote: > Does anybody knows how in earth are we(attendies) are suppose to do laundry > :) ? How much is it? And where are we suppose to go? http://debconf11.debconf.org/practicalinfo.xhtml section 'Laundry'. I would agree though that this year's information is spread across too many web pages and wiki pages! -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Survey about day trip preferences
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Wot no Condorcet with Schwartz Cloneproof Sequential Dropping ? :-) "Which of these would you be happy to participate in?" is for me the more important question in the survey, above the question about people's actual preferences for which something Cordorcet would clearly be better. I just worked within the first/only free-software, free-to-use web survey system I found, though. It has some annoying UI points besides limitations on question types -- but I'm sure they'll be happy to take patches. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] DebConf11 confirmation of attendance and attendee payments
Just a final reminder -- if you plan to attend DebConf11, but haven't confirmed this in Penta yet, do so now! Moray On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Moray Allan wrote: > We are now starting the confirmation period for DebConf11. It is > important for us to know final numbers soon, so unfortunately if you > don't confirm your attendance, and fill in your travel dates, before > the deadline, you won't be counted for food, accommodation, t-shirts, > proceedings, etc. Also, you will not be eligible for food or > accommodation sponsorship. > [...] > The confirmation period ends on Sunday 3 July, but please confirm > today if you already know that you will attend! ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Survey about day trip preferences
If you plan to attend DebConf in the future, it would be great if you could complete a small survey about your preferences for the DebConf day trip: http://www.opensurveys.org/takesurvey.php?SID=415 The survey questions have been kept to a minimum. If you would like to make more detailed suggestions, or to tell us what you thought about previous DebConf day trips, please send public comments to the list, or send a message to me off-list if you don't want your comments to be published. Thanks, -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Arrival with EN 499 to Zagreb/Novska/Okucani
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > There is no 09:00 bus on Sundays and twenty minutes seems > to be too little time to get to the bus station anyway(?). As I've said before on here, I really wouldn't make plans involving Balkan trains and tight connections. While I understand that the Bosnian trains themselves are rather reliable/on time for the region, in my experience the international trains are often late. In a week of travelling through the Balkans by train a couple of years ago, I think the latest train was eight hours late, and the most on-time only two hours behind schedule. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] arrving at Banja Luka bus or train station
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Good question. I guess Banja Luka has cash machines ? I was > intending to simply take money out with my visa debit card which has > worked in all cash machines I've encountered in all countries. Yes, Banja Luka has plenty of cash machines in general. But I don't know whether it has them at the bus/train stations. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Arrival and departure dates
The dates page on the website is hopefully now clearer about arrival and departure dates: http://debconf11.debconf.org/dates.xhtml -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] arriving on 23rd or 24th?
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > FWIW it's not a bug or a logic flaw, but a bit of design criteria we > collectively failed to grasp :-} To clarify further, as Gunnar's message wasn't initially clear to me, there were two non-bugs here: (a) it is/was already possible to pick the 23rd as an arrival day without signing up for DebCamp (some people thought it wasn't, but this was a mistake) (b) if you pick the 23rd as an arrival day, you can't sign up for DebCamp -- now that the 23rd is a recognised arrival day for DebConf, Penta doesn't count it as part of DebCamp, so this is not a bug, although it might surprise people -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] arrving at Banja Luka bus or train station
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Arne Goetje wrote: > On 06/17/2011 12:51 AM, Judit Foglszinger wrote: >> What about Doboj Trainstation? >> Is there a possibility to get money in the evening after 19 o'clock? >> If not, how to buy a train ticket to Banja Luka? >> The best I can tell about Bosnian railway's homepage is "confusing." > > No train to Banja Luka after 19:00. There is a bus connection instead: > Doboj 19:20 -> Banja Luka 21:37 If the train is only scheduled to arrive about 19:00, I wouldn't suggest trying to get a bus at 19:20, unless you first check (a) where the bus goes from in relation to the station (probably near, but I don't know), and more importantly, (b) how close to schedule the train tends to arrive (when I took trains in the Balkans before they were frequently very late, I don't know about this one). -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debian Merchandising
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Luca Capello wrote: > Yes, we can. But we need to know if that is allowed (hint: behind > authorisation, import/export and sale taxes) If you're worrying about these: selling stuff might also require a work permit. (As would working on Debian packages, in many countries, by the letter of the law, even unpaid.) -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] arriving on 23rd or 24th?
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Velimir Iveljic wrote: > Well i guess it's another bug in penta :S Hi, I'm just in off the train: Yes, this is a bug in penta. Clearly (as mentioned in this thread) Saturday is DebCamp. However, it's silly to enforce a 'sign up for DebCamp early' policy when we're talking half a day -- I don't think anyone involved in Debian would need much planning to fill that time usefully on Debian work (which might include sleeping to be ready for DebConf) Gunnar has sad he will fix Penta to allow people to set their arrival to the 23rd without jumping through hoops. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Healthcare in Bosnia
Apparently the UK and Bosnia have a bilateral arrangement for healthcare. This seems to be the relevant information for UK citizens visiting Bosnia: "What's free * Hospital treatment. * Some dental treatment. * Other medical treatment. What you'll need to pay for * Prescribed medicines." http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/Healthcareabroad/countryguide/NonEEAcountries/Pages/Non-EEAcountries.aspx While we recommend that all DebConf attendees arrange travel insurance, it would be useful if people could check for similar arrangements between Bosnia and other countries. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] Ho Ho Ho
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > c) if debconf actively encourages the adoption of non-free tools, or > actively excludes users who do not adopt non-free tools, it would seem > to distance the conference from our mutually-held social contract. Yes, but I really don't see that giving people a free mobile SIM would do that. Or, at least, not any more than recommending they do anything other than walk to DebConf. I don't know of any trains/planes/bicycle manufacturers which we can guarantee only use free software, but we currently don't see it as breaking our principles to recommend using their products, or to use Debian funds to pay for their use. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Group travel discount wiki page - add yourself!
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 6:43 AM, micah anderson wrote: > My guess is that if there was a travel discount, you would be > hard-pressed to find people who did not want it. Well, I'm sure everyone would like a discount, yes, but it's unlikely to be usable by everyone in a way that reduces their travel costs. For example, this year many Europeans will find it cheaper to fly with a budget airline than with the airline groups mentioned for potential discounts. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] group meals?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: > On a related note, is schedule slippage likely to be a concern? In the past, individual talks have started late, but things shouldn't slip behind schedule overall. Speakers are supposed to be warned as they near the end of their allotted time, and if necessary forced to wrap things up. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Extension to Call for keys for k eysigning in Cáceres during DebConf9
martin f krafft wrote: > Bring your laptop and do it on screen then. What a waste of paper > the whole process is anyway. > It's also not especially secure to depend on the fact that no one else ever gets to interfere with a piece of paper you have around the place for a week, to copy whatever mark you're making onto an extra key or two. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?
Le jeudi 11 juin 2009 à 16:45 +1000, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar a écrit : > I was thinking about accepting only keys that don't suffer from the > recently discovered weaknesses. > > What people think about that? I'd go for the opposite view: if you've made a new key, that's a great opportunity to strengthen the web of trust by not taking part in mass keysignings. If you must compete on raw number of weak signatures, use your old key for that. Get a few people who know you well to sign the new one. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf9 reconfirmation period started ; ends 7 June
Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > We only want to reimburse people when they actually show up, since it makes no > sense to sponsor someone's travel that they don't actually take for whatever > reason. > That may be reasonable, but I don't remember that policy being agreed -- I think the barrier to 'immediate' reimbursement up till now has been that we've simply never had money available for it. Unfortunately we've tended to be in an uncertain financial position right up to the conference, due to our dependence on sponsorship, which we have often only received late. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Train Madrid → Caceres
Eddy Petrișor wrote: > Probably my seat will remain empty and hopefully they will not panic if > I am not on the train at the Spanish - Portuguese border (which they > shouldn't taking into account both countries are in the EU). > No, I suppose the only problem I wondered about was being sure that you can leave the station without any argument. Getting off the train early shouldn't in itself be a problem for any train that shows up as stopping in Caceres. In the *UK* train system I know it's in principle against the rules to book a single ticket to a station beyond where you want to go (in a few cases it's cheaper even without discounts, due to charges included in the ticket price for using busy stations), and if there are ticket checks to leave the station they might complain. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Train Madrid → Caceres
Christian Perrier wrote: > What is possible is that Madrid-Caceres routes are not considered to > be the "main target" of the international Madrid-Lisbon train (the > main "purpose" of the train being going to/from Portugal). Therefore, > reduced fares are not possible for such partial routes. > Ah, perhaps -- I'm not getting the error if I select Madrid to Lisbon rather than Madrid to Caceres. The web fare for Madrid-Lisbon is €23.45, while the full price single fare for Madrid-Caceres is €38.50. Will it cause a problem to book the cheaper fare to Lisbon but then leave the train at Caceres? -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Train Madrid → Caceres
Le lundi 01 juin 2009 à 21:18 +0200, Moray Allan a écrit : > I'm getting the same error. The only people I've heard saying they had > successfully booked seats were getting them for daytime trains, so maybe > (as you suggest) the night train booking isn't working yet. Hrm, but if I choose the full-price ticket I don't get the error. So it's possible they just have very few cheaper tickets (and display the category on the first pages even when they're all gone). Can anyone who regularly uses the trains in Spain comment on what's most likely? -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Train Madrid → Caceres
Le lundi 01 juin 2009 à 15:37 +0300, Eddy Petrișor a écrit : > Error en plaza 1 = Error al obtener precios de plaza (G001-V510) I'm getting the same error. The only people I've heard saying they had successfully booked seats were getting them for daytime trains, so maybe (as you suggest) the night train booking isn't working yet. Has anyone managed to book on the Trenhotel? -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Barajas to Atocha Renfe - which way and how long?
Eddy Petrișor wrote: > I am going to arrive on the 22nd at 18:05 on Barajas and I saw there was a > train for Cáceres at 19:07, but that seems really tight since I expect the > whole airport fumbling to take at least 20 minutes: > I haven't been to Madrid, but yes that sounds very optimistic to me. At plenty of airports if you're unlucky you could still be waiting for your luggage an hour after the flight lands. Also remember that flights are quite often late, especially later in the day as any delays that occur tend to lead to worse and worse delays on subsequent flights until the end of the day's services. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Barajas to Atocha Renfe - which way and how long?
When I ask the search on http://www.metromadrid.es/ for a route, they currently give Tiempo Estimado: 0 h. 48 min. 12 sg. Salida de metro de Aeropuerto T1 T2 T3, Línea 8 Efectuar transbordo en Nuevos Ministerios con Línea 10 Efectuar transbordo en Tribunal con Línea 1 Llegada a metro de Atocha Renfe The estimated time for the route increases another 5-10 minutes depending on the time of day I specify. When I searched earlier today they were giving me a different route, going by line 6 then changing at Pacifico to get to Atoche. I don't know what was different then for it to change -- maybe the system knows the current status of the different lines and changes its answers based on that? -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Anyone had success with tgv-europe.de?
Le samedi 09 mai 2009 à 18:53 +0200, Joachim Breitner a écrit : > I’m trying to book the night train Paris → Madrid via > http://www.tgv-europe.de/ (or http://www.voyages-sncf.com/, same > results, just in a different language). I can enter the travel dates > (leaving 7-15, returing 7-31), select my price class for the train going > there, then select my price class for the return train, and then I get > „technical problems“. Welcome to the SNCF web booking system. > Am I the only one with such experiences? Maybe > someone with Internet Explorer could see if he gets further – who > knows... No, it's just like that. Try again later. But not around midnight, the train part of the site usually stops working entirely for a while then. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] How much is the regular room?
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 12:32 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Does anyone know the answer to this question ? According to previous DebConf meeting minutes, the plan is to use two student residences, Muñoz Torrero (140 people), and Francisco de Sande (70 people). I did some web searching for those names: For the first one, http://es.geocities.com/saby_mala9/requisitos.html talks about Diego Muñoz Torrero having 176 places in twin rooms (with photos available from the links on the left of the page) -- César, is this the correct information for the residence that we will use? And is http://mommybye.com/residencias/ver/211 the second residence? If so, that page says there are mostly single and some twin rooms. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] How much is the regular room?
Le jeudi 16 avril 2009 à 15:19 -0400, Michael Schultheiss a écrit : > Ian Jackson wrote: > > I assume these rooms are dormitories or some other kind of shared > > accomodation ? Rather than individual rooms. > > Yes, I believe so. > http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Extremadura#Accomodation mentions "hall of > residence" which I assume is synonymous with dormitory. No, I think Ian was using the en_GB meaning of dormitory referring to a room (rather than a building) with a large number of beds, so the question isn't about the standard/type of accommodation but about how many people will share each room. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Pick-pockets (sub-title: I had been warned).
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 18:49 +0200, Franklin PIAT wrote: > Suddenly, to nice couple of people told me that I had a bird dropping on > my back. They offered some help to remove it. Unfortunately this scheme is known in many cities around the world. :( I guess there are better pages describing the tricks played on tourists, but here's an article with some of the more common ones: http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2002/sep/01/budgettravel.observerescapesection (Another category of trick that article seems to miss, though I have no idea if it ever happens in Argentina, is locals who apparently make friends with tourists, then lead them to a bar which at the end of the evening demands payment of a ridiculously high bill -- the 'friendly' locals obviously collude with the bar owners on this.) -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] DebConf8 dates
The DebConf8 dates will be decided soon. The current dates under consideration are the last 2 weeks of August; it would be helpful if people could add the known/probable dates of other free software events to the list in http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf8/OtherConfs The current list there is events that were relevant to last year's dates; please also add, for example, local events within other South American countries that might have an overlap in attendance. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Whisky BOF
The whisky BOF will take place this evening, after the 7 o'clock organiser team meeting. Since a large number of people have expressed interest (and since I have been too busy to organise a better plan), the BOF will take place in a distributed fashion. Please meet at the DebConf registration desk at about 19.15 to form groups and collect information sheets, then we will visit some local pubs to compare different whiskies. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Ceilidh FAQ (19 UTC today, Teviot)
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 17:49 +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 02:32:50PM +0100, Moray Allan wrote: > > A: Gather for drinks upstairs in Teviot from 19 BST today. > > Why does the subject say 19 UTC? Sorry, that was a typo. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Non-Sponsored Hostel block booking information
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 21:28 +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > Well, it's the nearest one that isn't actually in the building :) . Fixed. I didn't know about the new machine in Teviot when I wrote that page. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Arrival information
Oh, and the airport express bus gives you a view of the Castle, Old Town, and New Town, whereas the 35 drives through a business park then some of the less great areas of Edinburgh... As the wiki says though, the airport express bus leaves you about 10 minutes' walk, or a short hop in a taxi, from Teviot. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Arrival information
On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 18:37 +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 07:00:30PM +0200, Amaya wrote: > > > It just takes 30min longer. > > It's also a bit more difficult to locate the bus stop for the regular > buses at the airport Similarly at the other end of the journey, you'd take the airport express bus to its terminus, whereas on the local bus you need to try to locate the correct stop to get off at -- I suggest asking the driver/other passengers (ask them for Forrest Road). The time the 35 takes to get to Forrest Road will vary depending on the time of day, see http://www.lothianbuses.co.uk/r35.shtml -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Talk coordinators needed
On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 17:46 -0600, Micah Anderson wrote: > Because sometimes speakers want to go to a different session before > theirs, and this way they'd be stuck going to one they might not prefer? And a lot of speakers spend the session before theirs looking at their own material -- that doesn't need to mean writing their slides, but at least thinking over what they're going to say. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Cheese and Wine BoF: reminder
Those of you who are discouraged by the hypothetical penalties for international cheese-smuggling could always pick up some cheese locally to contribute to the event. Supermarkets would of course have general international cheeses, but you could get something more unusual from, say, I J Mellis at 30a Victoria Street (near Teviot) -- http://www.ijmellischeesemonger.com/products.htm https://debconf7.debconf.org/wiki/Shopping#Food has a few other food-related suggestions; for example, if you're in Edinburgh for DebCamp you might find some nice stuff at the farmers' market on the Saturday. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Food around debconf
On Sun, 2007-05-20 at 01:06 +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 11:51:18AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > > from Teviot. There is another specialist place on Clerk Street but I've > > not been in recently. You should be able to find some items nearer but > > ...and it appears to have gone out of business. Other places in the area that do exist include Jordan Valley Wholefoods on Nicolson Street, or for eating out Susie's Wholefood Diner on West Nicolson Street. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Presentation no longer on the schedule!?
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 07:45 -0700, Keith Curtis wrote: > Why would you wait to review just one day's papers so close to the > conference? It would make sense to review all the papers at the same > time--in December, etc. Debian Day has always been organised separately from the main conference events. Debian Day works on a later schedule than DebConf. (Partly since it's just a much simpler event to organise, and partly because the audience for Debian Day can be found at quite short notice because it's local, whereas the DebConf attendees need longer to make arrangements.) > This is an "administrative mistake" that you fixed after I booked my > plane ticket, and you didn't even tell me about! As you say, it was a mistake, so unfortunately no one knew about it to be able to tell you. > Will you reimburse my expenses in that situation? You don't appear to have been awarded travel, accommodation, or food sponsorship, so DebConf won't reimburse your expenses in any case; the deadlines for requesting sponsorship passed a few months ago. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Call for keys for keysigning in Edinburgh during DebConf7
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 13:51 +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > perhaps all you need to do is to > make sure that the better connected people in the web-of-trust are evenly > distributed through the line, and then only bother doing the rotation as > many times as it takes for someone to get from one well signed person to > the next -- that is liable to get everyone within about one trust hop of > where they would get if the keysigning continued to the bitter end, so > would be equivalent to having a keysigning key that all attendees signed > and that signed all keys, without the single point of compromise. > The reason people get laxer as such events go on is that they are aware > that the person's ID has already been checked by an increasing number of > people, so perhaps we should just curtail the whole thing after about 10 ID > checks, or make it clear that after about the 10th check, it's perfectly > acceptable to wander off. Well, I *think* this is pretty much what is being suggested for this year, although I'm not sure. Certainly it's the kind of approach I was arguing to anibal/Ganneff should be taken this year. The "groups" thing can be viewed as a way of working out the ordering to ensure that, as you say, "better connected people in the web-of-trust are evenly distributed". The advantage of physically standing in separated groups is the physical one that delays don't propagate as badly. (Though if you just say "continue until you're tired", I suspect a lot of people will actually continue a while after that, when they've already stopped paying attention to what they're doing; it would be more responsible behaviour, as people who want to keep Debian signatures trustworthy, to try to make sure people do stop *before* there's a danger they stop paying attention.) Re denouncing keys, note that it *is* valid for people to have different standards. e.g. I won't sign on the basis of random driving licences I don't recognise, or some ID document with handwritten details and a glued-on photo, and don't think others should either -- but someone from the same country with a good knowledge of the documents might know enough to judge those kinds of documents. And I won't sign if the person looks nothing like the photo they're waving at me, but that's obviously a personal judgement. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Call for keys for keysigning in Edinburgh during DebConf7
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 09:33 +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > The big problem people have with the enormous keysigning parties from a > trust point of view is that they tend to be tiring and often a bit > hurried. This tends to reduce the quality of the ID checking that is > done substantially. Yes, that's the main problem I see: most people seem to just go into automatic mode of "stare at name on ID, tick off as correct" (not really checking what the ID is/if it's valid/whatever, mostly not complaining if the person looks nothing like the ID photo). Indeed, anyone doing more extensive checks tends to get shouted at by others for slowing everyone else down with them. fil is optimistic about the filtering effect of the queue, but if people aren't all making valid independent decisions (as they're not in my experience) you should really just be signing everyone with some special key for that keysigning, that people can choose to trust, not pretending that each individual link is fully trustworthy. (If someone fools only 10% of people at a big keysigning into signing them as those people are in a rush etc., they've already got a lot of trusted signatures -- web-of-trust calculations will assume those were all checked independently.) At the dc6 keysigning there were a number of people who just ignored the instructions about not taking part if you hadn't checked the hash already (as they wanted to get signatures, and wouldn't have another chance as good soon), meaning that people signing them could mistakenly have been signing any key with no relation to that person. (I understand the same was true at the dc5 keysigning.) I tried asking people if they really really had checked it etc., but while some people admitted they hadn't, I'm not sure any of those actually stopped taking part in the keysigning. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Call for keys for keysigning in Edinburgh during DebConf7
On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 20:33 +0100, William Hamilton wrote: > Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote: > > "DebConf7 will take place in central Edinburgh, within the UNESCO World > Heritage site" > > Sorry, that's incorrect. > > As someone who actually lives in Edinburgh, I can confirm that the EICC > conference centre is neither in the Old Town or the New Town - it's in > the financial area. But DebConf isn't being held at the EICC The main venue is Teviot Row House, which *is* within the World Heritage site (if only just), see http://www.ewht.org.uk/editor/GetFile.aspx?ItemId=62 ; the other buildings being used (e.g. hostels) are also within it. -- Moray Allan ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Logo for DebConf7
It's been suggested that we should choose a logo for DebConf7, to go on the t-shirts/proceedings/advertising etc. It would be better to have a logo that looks good printed in one colour in outline, though it's fine to have a colour version as well. It would be a plus to include, or look good next to, the Debian swirl. The traditional way to represent Edinburgh is by a castle; if someone can draw a nice cartoon version of a castle, then that could be fine for a logo. For inspiration on that front, see e.g. http://www.rosslyntemplars.org.uk/images/EdinLogo.jpg http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/CEC/CorporateServices/CorporateCommunications/coatofarms/Image144.gif http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/2/2b/180px-Edinburgh-coa.png http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/home/tour/edincrest.gif As another possibility, the traditional symbol for Scotland is a thistle; if you don't know what those look like see e.g. http://www.visitscotland.com/aboutscotland/UniquelyScottish/Thistle http://www.hebridean-island-images.com/Nature/images/Scottish%20Thistle% 20(NATF%200032).jpg We could also go down the tourist-theme-park route and use e.g. the Loch Ness monster / a furry haggis / bagpipes even if they're not really Scottish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagpipes#History). Suggestions / logo submissions? -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Help: Edinburgh - London before 1pm?
On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 12:15 +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: > The price for both tickets appears to be 98.20 GBP. Note that we're not 12 weeks before the end of DebConf yet, so train bookings for then aren't yet available. While it is already possible to buy open return tickets valid for the end of DebConf, you can't yet get cheap offers for specific journeys -- e.g. for GNER the cheapest option is normally to get two non-flexible single tickets, which they aren't offering yet for the end of DebConf. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Help: Edinburgh - London before 1pm?
On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 12:47 +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > I just bought my return ticket from London to Germany. Because of > limited availability (and because I should have done that on saturday), > I have to take the Eurostar leaving at 13:36 in London Waterloo. Now my > problem is: How do I get from Edinburgh to London in time? Could please > someone living in the UK, who knows the system better, help me out with > an affordable connection London - Edinburgh (on 2007-06-10, leaving not > before 10:30) and Edinburgh - London (on 2007-06-24, arriving before > 13:00)? I think you'll need to get to London earlier than that on 2007-06-24 -- you're meant to be at the Eurostar terminal a bit early, and the Eurostar terminal is in a different station from where you'll arrive from Edinburgh. The options I can suggest for now would be using the sleeper train, see http://www.firstgroup.com/scotrail/content/caledoniansleeper/index.php http://www.seat61.com/CaledonianSleepers.htm or an overnight coach, e.g. http://www.megabus.com/uk/ which will probably be cheaper. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: [Debconf-team] visa-invitation letter: we need help
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 09:08 +1100, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: > I agree. So, I would like to suggest to ask people that need a > visa-invitation letter to ask the local UK embassy for an example > of a visa-invitation letter that will be appropriate for their > visa application. > > That way, it will be the responsibility of the applicant to propose > a visa-invitation letter for consideration of the debconf local > team. Certainly if applicants want particular things in their letters, they can be added. However, we *do* have a generally-applicable letter written: as Holger mentioned, we just would like some more checks done before sending it out, to make sure we haven't missed something/said something bad. I suppose another way to do that checking would be to start sending out the letters in phases, and see how the first people using them get on -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Re: [Debconf-team] visa-invitation letter: we need help
On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 21:04 +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > to send out the invitation letter for people needing visas to come to > Edinburgh, we need help to review it, so that we dont send out invitations > that could bring us in trouble. > > If you can and want to help, please reply to this mail. Also if you know more > details what kind of help is actually needed. But basically its reviewing an > already written letter and checking back with a person who knows about the > legal details. Holger isn't quite clear here: we don't need general proof-reading (although obviously that won't do any harm). We need someone to check information with UKvisas and/or with a UK immigration lawyer. People outside the UK could also help by speaking to the UK embassy in their country. There are two different letters. One is a straightforward invitation letter, inviting the person to attend the conference. This is needed for example by people who have to ask their employer for time off work, and could be useful to certain people in relation to immigration issues. The second letter is a 'sponsorship' letter, to be included as part of the information in a UK visa application. This letter gives details of the conference, details of the individual person it relates to, and details of what funding/support we are supplying to the person in question. We have followed the instructions and recommendations which UKvisas give relating to this subject, but since none of us have much experience in dealing with UKvisas it is possible there is something that could be improved. On the one hand, the sponsorship letter is not in fact that important a part of the visa application: the UK immigration authorities are not really concerned to know why someone wants to come to the UK, but to have proof that they want to go away again afterwards. Including information about a job/family/etc. that requires the person to go home after DebConf is more important than the contents of any letter from us. On the other hand, visa paperwork is a serious matter: if we make a mistake, people will be denied visas, and not just for DebConf: a UK visa refusal in the past generally makes it much more difficult to get a UK visa in the future. (A visa refusal can also mean that someone who could normally transit through the UK without special permission suddenly needs a transit visa to do so. A friend of mine was held at Heathrow airport and deported because she had not realised this, even though she would originally have left the UK on her next flight earlier than the time they deported her.) -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Re: [Debconf-team] visa-invitation letter: we need help
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 11:36 +, Moray Allan wrote: > People outside the UK could also help by speaking to the UK embassy in their > country. I forgot to note here: since UK visa processing is somewhat decentralised, information on what happens in practice in different countries is more, not less, useful than information we can obtain within the UK. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Train to DebConf
On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 12:07 +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > There's a bus running for 38 pounds (return included), which only requires > advance-booking of seven days: > http://www.stuckonscotland.co.uk/edinburgh/coach-london.html The coach is likely to be the cheapest option (you can probably find one cheaper than that). However, the train won't be much more than the price you quote -- maybe £50 return if booked in advance, to give a round number -- and is *much* quicker and more comfortable. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Train / Bus / Car to DebConf?
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 00:57 +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Going to Paris depends on where you are, of course, and I’m > not sure what the cheapest option from London to Edinburgh are, of if > there are combined offers. At the moment the cheapest train option for London <> Edinburgh seems to be buying single tickets (for fixed times) as early as possible online. http://www.gner.co.uk/GNER/Tickets/advancesingletickets.htm Tickets usually go on sale 3 months before the date of travel. I haven't tried it, but supposedly you can get an email reminder when the tickets you want become available: http://fs3.emv2.com/uk/gner/join/webform.html There are combined offers for UK travel plus Eurostar, see e.g. http://www.gner.co.uk/GNER/YourJourney/Eurostar.htm -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: [Debconf-team] Leaving the debconf team
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 15:45 -0600, David Moreno Garza wrote: > Any news on this? Yes, I posted an explanatory message yesterday, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: [Debconf-announce] DebConf7 registration/sponsorship/CFP deadline
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 11:13 +, MJ Ray wrote: > Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > Debian is not a european project. [...] > > Of course, but we could expect that many people from Europe would > attend a conference in Europe, especially if there weren't things like > deadlines before sanely-priced rail tickets are on sale. There is (still) no requirement to buy tickets before applying for sponsorship, and (still) no requirement to register yet if you don't want sponsorship. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: [Debconf-announce] DebConf7 registration/sponsorship/CFP deadline
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 01:39 +, MJ Ray wrote: > Why is event registration closing two months before advance purchase > rail tickets go on sale? It's not, no closing date for registration has been announced. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: DebConf7: registration and call for papers
On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 08:15 -0300, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: > I got parse errors for tables.css and sidebar.css by using w3c > validator. I guess that the problem can be in this code: They validate in http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ if I delete the comments at the top of those files. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: DebConf7: registration and call for papers
On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 05:31 +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 05:32:26PM +0000, Moray Allan wrote: > > To register, go to https://penta.debconf.org/user > > I get a big fat error: > > ERROR: current transaction is aborted, commands ignored until end of > transaction block It should be working again now. -- Moray http://www.morayallan.com/ ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: DebConf7: registration and call for papers
On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 16:31 -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote: > Just filled some information there. The site looks a bit broken in > epiphany 2.14.3 or is it just for me? Also for me here, I don't know if that's a bug in current Epiphany or something wrong with Pentabarf. (If you work out it's the latter, get Ganneff to fix it.) > Moray or somebody else, since > i'll need sponsorship, could you tell me what's more is need to fill > there? To apply for sponsorship you'll also need to say what days you intend to come for, and how much you expect your flight to cost (/how much of that you could pay). -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] PowerPC live CD
Hi, Does anyone have a PowerPC live CD? (e.g. Ubuntu?) I think my laptop's hard drive is dying, which I don't mind except that it would be handy if I could still ssh -- Moray http://www.morayallan.com/ ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Small t-shirt?
I got a medium DebConf6 t-shirt but (asked for and) would prefer a small one. Does anyone have a small one that they'd be willing to swap? In case anyone else also wants to swap t-shirt sizes, I've made a wiki page: http://wiki.debian.org/DebConf6TShirtExchange -- Moray http://www.morayallan.com/ ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
