Re: Wheezy images and speech

2013-01-29 Thread Tony Baechler
It would be a very simple matter to get the live CDs to have speech at boot. 
 The Squeeze live CD already has the Speakup modules, so I'm assuming that 
Wheezy does as well.  I haven't used the Wheezy live CD, but with Squeeze, 
it doesn't have the espeak and espeakup packages.  Since Squeeze still 
supports hardware speech, that wasn't a problem for me.  All that would need 
to happen to get Wheezy to have software speech is to install the above 
packages and set up an entry in the boot loader to load speech as D-I does 
now.  It would be a fairly simple fix if I understand correctly.  With 
Squeeze, just do the following after the CD boots:


sudo modprobe speakup_ltlk

On 1/28/2013 7:24 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote:

Geoff Shang, le Mon 28 Jan 2013 16:57:34 +0200, a écrit :

I also read about Debian Live and its rescue mode, and thought perhaps it
might be a good substitute for GRML if it has speech support.  But I was
unable to discover if it does.


I haven't had the time to do anything about it.  I guess nobody did
either.



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Re: Wheezy images and speech

2013-01-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Tony Baechler, le Mon 28 Jan 2013 22:59:34 -0800, a écrit :
 All that would need to happen to get Wheezy to have software speech is
 to install the above packages and set up an entry in the boot loader
 to load speech as D-I does now.

I completely agree. That still takes time to do, test, fix, document,
make sure people keep it long-term, etc.

Samuel


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Re: Wheezy images and speech

2013-01-28 Thread Sebastian Humenda
Hello Geoff,

Geoff Shang schrieb am 28.01.2013, 16:57 +0200:
Given then that GRML is no longer an option, at least for now, and
with the Wheezy release fast approaching,  I took a look at the
various boot images.  But I'm a bit confused.

The release notes say that we can just hit s and enter when booting
the installation media, but it doesn't say if this is supported on
all image types (e.g. netinst or something bigger), and it also
IMHO it's supported on netinst and bigger. If business-card still exists, I
think there you won't have accessibility features.

doesn't say whether this will place you into a GUI or text
environment during and after installation.
Since this up to your choice, at least after the installation. During the
installation, you will have a text environment. What you get afterwards depends
on whether you select a Desktop. If you use the DVD with GNOME, an accessible
Desktop will be set up.

I also read about Debian Live and its rescue mode, and thought
perhaps it might be a good substitute for GRML if it has speech
support.  But I was unable to discover if it does.
I don't know, but I don't think so. Last time I tried the live system didn't 
have
BRLTTY by default, so I stopped using it.

I'm sure this is probably all written up somewhere, but a search of
the Debian website was unable to turn it up.  Or rather, I got sick
Try
  http://wiki.debian.org/accessibility

Best
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Re: Wheezy images and speech

2013-01-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Geoff Shang, le Mon 28 Jan 2013 16:57:34 +0200, a écrit :
 The release notes say that we can just hit s and enter when booting the
 installation media, but it doesn't say if this is supported on all image
 types (e.g. netinst or something bigger),

Release notes are there to point out new features, not to completely
describe them.  All accessibility features of the installer are
described in the installer manual,

http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/installmanual

It however doesn't say which images have it. I have just added that
information to the development version, that should appear tomorrow in
English on

http://d-i.debian.org/manual/

“Support for software speech synthesis is available on all installer
images whichhave the graphical installer, i.e. all netinst, CD and DVD
images, and the netboot gtk variant.”

 and it also doesn't say whether this will place you into a GUI or text
 environment during and after installation.

I've just added a note about it too: “The textual version
of the installer will then be automatically selected, and support for
software speech synthesis will be automatically installed on the target
system.”

Whether the installed system will use a GUI depends whether you request
it during installation.

 I also read about Debian Live and its rescue mode, and thought perhaps it
 might be a good substitute for GRML if it has speech support.  But I was
 unable to discover if it does.

I haven't had the time to do anything about it.  I guess nobody did
either.

Samuel


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Re: Wheezy images and speech

2013-01-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le Mon 28 Jan 2013 16:21:06 +0100, a écrit :
 If business-card still exists, I
 think there you won't have accessibility features.

They don't exist any more.

Samuel


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