Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-05-11 Thread Tim Cutts

On 8 May 2011, at 01:37, Michael Cree wrote:

 
 Who owns these machines? The Welcome Trust? Debian? Someone else?  It 
 certainly would be wonderful if they can allocated to the new porting effort 
 at the appropriate time.

Formally, they probably still belong to the Wellcome Trust, but they're well 
past their normal retirement age (all of our other Alpha boxes are long gone) 
and there would be no problem in formally donating them to whoever takes them 
on (there probably won't even need to *be* a formal donation process, but it's 
as well to check)

 They are both quad-CPU ES45 servers with 8GB RAM each, and so are quite 
 large and heavy (7U of rack space per machine, I think)
 
 Wow, they're really serious machines!  I'm envious (but not of the 
 electricity bill:-)

Sanger used to be an entirely Alpha/Tru64 shop, when we were working on the 
first human genome project.  We had about 40 ES40's and ES45's, about 400 
DS10L's in a cluster, and two ridiculous GS320 boxes - you know, 32 CPU 
monsters with 256GB of RAM each which took up two or three cabinets.  Of 
course, these days you can get that much RAM in a blade server.  :-)

These days we're a Linux-x86_64 show.

Tim

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Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-05-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, May  8, 2011 at 12:37:53 +1200, Michael Cree wrote:

 What's the procedure for getting login access to the porter box?

http://dsa.debian.org/doc/guest-account/

Cheers,
Julien


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Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-05-07 Thread Michael Cree

On 07/05/11 00:15, Tim Cutts wrote:

On 18 Apr 2011, at 23:44, Michael Cree wrote:

On Mon, April 18, 2011 1:48 pm, Witold Baryluk wrote:

On 04-14 06:43, Bill MacAllister wrote:

It appears we are to provide the Alpha buildds.


Great.  That's five machines at three sites.  Two XP1k, Two A1200, and a
CS20.  That should get us going nicely.


There is, of course, also the current alpha autobuilder, goetz.debian.org, but 
I don't know how we'd hand over smoothly from being an official autobuilder for 
lenny (which I guess it still has to be because of security support) to become 
an unofficial port machine.

Once Lenny security support stops, we will not want goetz and albeniz (the 
porter box) in our data centre any more, and I'd be more than happy for someone 
to take them off our hands to use as the unofficial ports machine.


Who owns these machines? The Welcome Trust? Debian? Someone else?  It 
certainly would be wonderful if they can allocated to the new porting 
effort at the appropriate time.


What's the procedure for getting login access to the porter box? 
Presumably it's restricted to DDs?  I am working on the toolchain at the 
moment and compiling the gcc suite on my 11-year old XP1000 bombs out 
(with a binutils internal error) after 7 hours.  Each little change 
often requires re-building from the start (since it is a multi-stage 
compilation process where each stage depends on the previous one). 
Getting access to a seriously grunty Alpha would be wonderful!



They are both quad-CPU ES45 servers with 8GB RAM each, and so are quite large 
and heavy (7U of rack space per machine, I think)


Wow, they're really serious machines!  I'm envious (but not of the 
electricity bill:-)


Cheers
Michael.


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Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-05-06 Thread Tim Cutts

On 18 Apr 2011, at 23:44, Michael Cree wrote:

 On Mon, April 18, 2011 1:48 pm, Witold Baryluk wrote:
 On 04-14 06:43, Bill MacAllister wrote:
 It appears we are to provide the Alpha buildds.  We need at least
 two for redundancy but if older hardware is used then we may need
 three or four.  Craig, Witold, Robert, are you all able to offer a
 machine to be a buildd?  I don't think I can---I have an XP1000 that
 is my main computer that I use, and two PWS600au, but they are a bit
 slow.
 
 Absolutly.
 
 I can offer almost right now 2 fully loaded XP1000 exclusivly for buildd.
 
 Great.  That's five machines at three sites.  Two XP1k, Two A1200, and a
 CS20.  That should get us going nicely.
 
 I am off on holiday over the Easter break and probably won't be able to
 check my email for a week.

There is, of course, also the current alpha autobuilder, goetz.debian.org, but 
I don't know how we'd hand over smoothly from being an official autobuilder for 
lenny (which I guess it still has to be because of security support) to become 
an unofficial port machine.

Once Lenny security support stops, we will not want goetz and albeniz (the 
porter box) in our data centre any more, and I'd be more than happy for someone 
to take them off our hands to use as the unofficial ports machine.

They are both quad-CPU ES45 servers with 8GB RAM each, and so are quite large 
and heavy (7U of rack space per machine, I think)

Tim

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Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-29 Thread Michael Cree

On 26/04/11 19:29, Bill MacAllister wrote:

System Description Contributor
 -
2 XP1000, 1GB RAM Witold Baryluk bary...@smp.if.uj.edu.pl
CS20 Craig Prescott c...@ekkaia.net
AS1200, 4GB, Dual CPU Bill MacAllister w...@stanford.edu
DECServer 5000, 2GB, Dual CPU Bill MacAllister w...@stanford.edu


That looks good.  They are older and less powerful machines than the 
official Debian buildds were, but with five of them I think we should be 
fine.



Someone else might have spoken up with other AS1200's, but in my
search through the email stream I didn't see it. Please correct me if
I have this wrong.


Sorry, I misinterpreted you original message.


In Aurelien Jarno message of the 25th he asked for a single contract
from the Alpha community to interface with. Has anyone taken that role?


Doesn't appear so.  Witold has turned it down.  I had hoped we could 
score one of the old Debian Alpha Porters for that role but none of them 
have appeared.  I started this thread knowing that someone had to get 
things moving or nothing would happen, but I am a newbie to all of this. 
 I suspect that is true of all of us!


Cheers
Michael.


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Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-26 Thread Bill MacAllister



--On Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:30:13 AM -0700 Bill MacAllister 
w...@stanford.edu wrote:




--On Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:44:31 AM +1200 Michael Cree 
mc...@orcon.net.nz wrote:


On Mon, April 18, 2011 1:48 pm, Witold Baryluk wrote:

On 04-14 06:43, Bill MacAllister wrote:

 It appears we are to provide the Alpha buildds.  We need at least
 two for redundancy but if older hardware is used then we may need
 three or four.  Craig, Witold, Robert, are you all able to offer a
 machine to be a buildd?  I don't think I can---I have an XP1000 that
 is my main computer that I use, and two PWS600au, but they are a bit
 slow.


Absolutly.

I can offer almost right now 2 fully loaded XP1000 exclusivly for buildd.


Great.  That's five machines at three sites.  Two XP1k, Two A1200, and a
CS20.  That should get us going nicely.

I am off on holiday over the Easter break and probably won't be able to
check my email for a week.

Cheers
Michael.


It would be great to get a summary of machine and sites.  From this email
stream I think the list is:

  System DescriptionContributor
    -
  2 XP1000, 1GB RAM Witold Baryluk bary...@smp.if.uj.edu.pl
  CS20  Craig Prescott c...@ekkaia.net
  AS1200, 4GB, Dual CPU Bill MacAllister w...@stanford.edu
  DECServer 5000, 2GB, Dual CPU Bill MacAllister w...@stanford.edu

Someone else might have spoken up with other AS1200's, but in my
search through the email stream I didn't see it.  Please correct me if
I have this wrong.

My systems will be on-line after I get a chance to move them into my
office at Stanford.  Note, I have asked for permission to do this and
have not received a response yet.  So, there is a possibility that I
will be scrambling for a place to hook these systems up.

Bill


It turns out that the two systems that I have to contribute as bbuilds
are both single processor AS1200s.  They are on line and I have just
started the processing of making then bbuild servers.  I will shuffle
CPUs from the DEC5000 into the AS1200 cases sometime in the next week
or two to make dual CPU systems.  The systems have 2gb and 1.5 gb
memory each and each system has a total of 360gb of disk space.

In Aurelien Jarno message of the 25th he asked for a single contract
from the Alpha community to interface with.  Has anyone taken that role?

Bill


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Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-26 Thread Witold Baryluk
On 04-26 00:29, Bill MacAllister wrote:

 
 It would be great to get a summary of machine and sites.  From this email
 stream I think the list is:
 
   System DescriptionContributor
     -
   2 XP1000, 1GB RAM Witold Baryluk bary...@smp.if.uj.edu.pl

Correct. Each will start with 50GB of local storage on LVM + lots on NFSv4.
Will be updated (more machines or more memory) in the future.


   CS20  Craig Prescott c...@ekkaia.net
   AS1200, 4GB, Dual CPU Bill MacAllister w...@stanford.edu
   DECServer 5000, 2GB, Dual CPU Bill MacAllister w...@stanford.edu

 each and each system has a total of 360gb of disk space.
...
 
 In Aurelien Jarno message of the 25th he asked for a single contract
 from the Alpha community to interface with.  Has anyone taken that role?

I cannot count, as I am pretty busy with other tasks (like writing master 
thesis)
and alpha-keeping will be only time-to-time job.
(Hovewer I will test and benchmark cutting edge things often and a lot).
I have also tendency to not replay for weeks, if I'm hacking something. :/

Regards,
Witek

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Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-20 Thread Bill MacAllister



--On Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:44:31 AM +1200 Michael Cree 
mc...@orcon.net.nz wrote:


On Mon, April 18, 2011 1:48 pm, Witold Baryluk wrote:

On 04-14 06:43, Bill MacAllister wrote:

 It appears we are to provide the Alpha buildds.  We need at least
 two for redundancy but if older hardware is used then we may need
 three or four.  Craig, Witold, Robert, are you all able to offer a
 machine to be a buildd?  I don't think I can---I have an XP1000 that
 is my main computer that I use, and two PWS600au, but they are a bit
 slow.


Absolutly.

I can offer almost right now 2 fully loaded XP1000 exclusivly for buildd.


Great.  That's five machines at three sites.  Two XP1k, Two A1200, and a
CS20.  That should get us going nicely.

I am off on holiday over the Easter break and probably won't be able to
check my email for a week.

Cheers
Michael.


It would be great to get a summary of machine and sites.  From this email
stream I think the list is:

 System DescriptionContributor
   -
 2 XP1000, 1GB RAM Witold Baryluk bary...@smp.if.uj.edu.pl
 CS20  Craig Prescott c...@ekkaia.net
 AS1200, 4GB, Dual CPU Bill MacAllister w...@stanford.edu
 DECServer 5000, 2GB, Dual CPU Bill MacAllister w...@stanford.edu

Someone else might have spoken up with other AS1200's, but in my
search through the email stream I didn't see it.  Please correct me if
I have this wrong.

My systems will be on-line after I get a chance to move them into my
office at Stanford.  Note, I have asked for permission to do this and
have not received a response yet.  So, there is a possibility that I
will be scrambling for a place to hook these systems up.

Bill

P.S. I do have 5 Multia's as well, but I doubt if any one is interested
in them.  ;-)

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Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-17 Thread Witold Baryluk
On 04-14 16:12, Oliver Falk wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I have some machines and if you want to have them - feel free to write me an 
 e-mail. Pickup in Austria...
 
 -of

Hi Oliver!

I'm already aware of your hardware offer, and actually
considering flying to Viena from Cracov, and going back by train :)
Unfortunetly cheepest fly is throught Berlin, which is somehow
stupid, so still thinking about it :)





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Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-17 Thread Witold Baryluk
On 04-14 06:43, Bill MacAllister wrote:
 
 
 --On Thursday, April 14, 2011 08:48:10 PM +1200 Michael Cree 
 mc...@orcon.net.nz wrote:
 
 Debian Alpha People,
 
 You may have noted the removal of the Alpha port from the Debian
 autobuilder network.  Packages are no longer being built for the
 unstable distribution.
 
 Hopefully you have seen the promising message from Aurelien [1] that
 it is likely that the Alpha port of Debian can be accommodated in
 debian-ports in the next couple of weeks or so.  To enable that we
 need to start organising ourselves.  As no-one else has stepped up I
 am sending out this message but I have to admit I have limited
 knowledge of the Debian process of porting and packaging.  I suspect
 we may be all on a step learning curve.  Has anyone heard from
 Arthur Loiret?  It would be nice to get an actual Debian Developer
 on board.
 
 I have experience building debian packages that we use internally
 here at Stanford.  I can help with basic packaging.
 
 The debian-ports server is a wanna-build server.  It maintains a
 database of built and needs to be built packages and manages the
 allocation of building to buildds.  I believe debian-ports also
 hosts the accessible apt package repository.

Hosting wanna-build on debian-ports would be awsome. You already
are expirienced in it, and it is good to have centralized
and better maintained place for this (as debian-ports is
already for about 10 ports).

Probably the hardest part is bootstraping repository
with essential packages. Are there any instruction
from which packages we should start, or wannt-build will
perform this automatically somehow?

 
 It appears we are to provide the Alpha buildds.  We need at least
 two for redundancy but if older hardware is used then we may need
 three or four.  Craig, Witold, Robert, are you all able to offer a
 machine to be a buildd?  I don't think I can---I have an XP1000 that
 is my main computer that I use, and two PWS600au, but they are a bit
 slow.

Absolutly.

I can offer almost right now 2 fully loaded XP1000 exclusivly for buildd.
All boxes have essentially 21264 500MHz, 1GB RAM, 4x 9GB fast disk,
and Internet connection using IPv6. I can try putting them on IPv4
but this will be harder.
I am now waiting for delivering more RAM so I could put 2GB of RAM
in each and bigger ethernet switch, because I have now everything
filled in office. :)

I'm still fighting with IDE performance (XP1000 are known to have
problems with DMA on IDE), but it will be solved soon (about a week),
and actually isn't big deal, as main storage for buildd will be on SCSI.

(I have 3 more XP1000, but I'm using them for my own tasks,
kernel reboots, Xorg, experimental stuff, etc. One of them also do
not have harddrives and RAM, cause I put this resources into another ones.
And in the process I yeasterday trashed two XP1000 boxes :/
They were totally dead, fortunetly I took memory and storage,
so we can use it for something more usefull. ).

As of buildd, I already installed buildd and sbuild on one
of this machines, and it essentially works, but would
be better, if debian-ports can provide own buildd/sbuild/apt
repositories for this, as well setup instruction
(I was obviously using Debian's one).

I would also want to know if anybody else would need
to have administrative access to the buildd machine?
As i understand buildd user, unfortunetly can sude into root
(because it for example create LVM snapshots, mounts,
unmounts, deboostrap, etc.). So, what security
issues needs to be taken into consideration?


 
 Who is prepared to assist in the checking of built package logs,
 uploading successful builds, and reporting build failures?
 Hopefully we can get three or four of us so that it lightens the
 load and enables package builds to continue when someone is
 unavailable.  I volunteer for some of this load --- but I won't be
 able to attend to it every day.  It will be more likely twice a
 week.
 
 I can also help with looking the the build logs.

Me too. At least from time to time. (two time a week maybe).
Definietly more frequently for my own machines.




Thanks,
Witek


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Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-17 Thread Craig Prescott

Michael Cree wrote:
It appears we are to provide the Alpha buildds.  We need at least two 
for redundancy but if older hardware is used then we may need three or 
four.   Craig, Witold, Robert, are you all able to offer a machine to be 
a buildd?I don't think I can---I have an XP1000 that is my main 
computer that I use, and two PWS600au, but they are a bit slow.


I can make a CS20 available for sure.  Hopefully it is ok that it sits 
behind a NAT firewall (I think it should be fine).


Who is prepared to assist in the checking of built package logs, 
uploading successful builds, and reporting build failures?  Hopefully we 
can get three or four of us so that it lightens the load and enables 
package builds to continue when someone is unavailable.  I volunteer for 
some of this load --- but I won't be able to attend to it every day.  It 
will be more likely twice a week.


I can also help with this.  Twice a week is a reasonable estimate for 
me, as well.  If I can do it more often, I will.


Cheers,
Craig


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Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-14 Thread Bill MacAllister



--On Thursday, April 14, 2011 08:48:10 PM +1200 Michael Cree 
mc...@orcon.net.nz wrote:


Debian Alpha People,

You may have noted the removal of the Alpha port from the Debian
autobuilder network.  Packages are no longer being built for the
unstable distribution.

Hopefully you have seen the promising message from Aurelien [1] that
it is likely that the Alpha port of Debian can be accommodated in
debian-ports in the next couple of weeks or so.  To enable that we
need to start organising ourselves.  As no-one else has stepped up I
am sending out this message but I have to admit I have limited
knowledge of the Debian process of porting and packaging.  I suspect
we may be all on a step learning curve.  Has anyone heard from
Arthur Loiret?  It would be nice to get an actual Debian Developer
on board.


I have experience building debian packages that we use internally
here at Stanford.  I can help with basic packaging.


The debian-ports server is a wanna-build server.  It maintains a
database of built and needs to be built packages and manages the
allocation of building to buildds.  I believe debian-ports also
hosts the accessible apt package repository.

It appears we are to provide the Alpha buildds.  We need at least
two for redundancy but if older hardware is used then we may need
three or four.  Craig, Witold, Robert, are you all able to offer a
machine to be a buildd?  I don't think I can---I have an XP1000 that
is my main computer that I use, and two PWS600au, but they are a bit
slow.


I have several AlphaServer 1200s and DecServer 5000s that are idle
right now.  I can probably only bring two onto the net, but I am happy
to do that.


Who is prepared to assist in the checking of built package logs,
uploading successful builds, and reporting build failures?
Hopefully we can get three or four of us so that it lightens the
load and enables package builds to continue when someone is
unavailable.  I volunteer for some of this load --- but I won't be
able to attend to it every day.  It will be more likely twice a
week.


I can also help with looking the the build logs.


There are some other things we have to sort out to have a fully
working Alpha autobuilder network but the above is a start.


Thanks for your efforts and let me know what I can do to help.

Bill


Cheers
Michael.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2011/04/msg00018.html




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RE: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-14 Thread Oliver Falk
Hi!

I have some machines and if you want to have them - feel free to write me an 
e-mail. Pickup in Austria...

-of

 -Original Message-
 From: Bill MacAllister [mailto:w...@stanford.edu]
 Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:43 PM
 To: Michael Cree; debian-alpha@lists.debian.org;
 robert.gar...@ieeda.net; c...@ekkaia.net; bary...@smp.if.uj.edu.pl;
 aloi...@debian.org
 Subject: Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting
 
 
 
 --On Thursday, April 14, 2011 08:48:10 PM +1200 Michael Cree
 mc...@orcon.net.nz wrote:
 
  Debian Alpha People,
 
  You may have noted the removal of the Alpha port from the Debian
  autobuilder network.  Packages are no longer being built for the
  unstable distribution.
 
  Hopefully you have seen the promising message from Aurelien [1] that
  it is likely that the Alpha port of Debian can be accommodated in
  debian-ports in the next couple of weeks or so.  To enable that we
  need to start organising ourselves.  As no-one else has stepped up I
  am sending out this message but I have to admit I have limited
  knowledge of the Debian process of porting and packaging.  I suspect
  we may be all on a step learning curve.  Has anyone heard from Arthur
  Loiret?  It would be nice to get an actual Debian Developer on board.
 
 I have experience building debian packages that we use internally here at
 Stanford.  I can help with basic packaging.
 
  The debian-ports server is a wanna-build server.  It maintains a
  database of built and needs to be built packages and manages the
  allocation of building to buildds.  I believe debian-ports also hosts
  the accessible apt package repository.
 
  It appears we are to provide the Alpha buildds.  We need at least two
  for redundancy but if older hardware is used then we may need three or
  four.  Craig, Witold, Robert, are you all able to offer a machine to
  be a buildd?  I don't think I can---I have an XP1000 that is my main
  computer that I use, and two PWS600au, but they are a bit slow.
 
 I have several AlphaServer 1200s and DecServer 5000s that are idle right
 now.  I can probably only bring two onto the net, but I am happy to do that.
 
  Who is prepared to assist in the checking of built package logs,
  uploading successful builds, and reporting build failures?
  Hopefully we can get three or four of us so that it lightens the load
  and enables package builds to continue when someone is unavailable.  I
  volunteer for some of this load --- but I won't be able to attend to
  it every day.  It will be more likely twice a week.
 
 I can also help with looking the the build logs.
 
  There are some other things we have to sort out to have a fully
  working Alpha autobuilder network but the above is a start.
 
 Thanks for your efforts and let me know what I can do to help.
 
 Bill
 
  Cheers
  Michael.
 
  [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2011/04/msg00018.html
 
 
 
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 Infrastructure Delivery Group, Stanford University
 
 
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RE: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-14 Thread Bill MacAllister



--On Thursday, April 14, 2011 04:12:16 PM +0200 Oliver Falk 
oli...@linux-kernel.at wrote:


Hi!

I have some machines and if you want to have them - feel free to
write me an e-mail. Pickup in Austria...


LOL.

I do hope to be in Germany in the fall for LDAPCon.  Think I can bring
them back to the states as carry on luggage?

Bill


-of


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From: Bill MacAllister [mailto:w...@stanford.edu]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:43 PM
To: Michael Cree; debian-alpha@lists.debian.org;
robert.gar...@ieeda.net; c...@ekkaia.net; bary...@smp.if.uj.edu.pl;
aloi...@debian.org
Subject: Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting



--On Thursday, April 14, 2011 08:48:10 PM +1200 Michael Cree
mc...@orcon.net.nz wrote:

 Debian Alpha People,

 You may have noted the removal of the Alpha port from the Debian
 autobuilder network.  Packages are no longer being built for the
 unstable distribution.

 Hopefully you have seen the promising message from Aurelien [1] that
 it is likely that the Alpha port of Debian can be accommodated in
 debian-ports in the next couple of weeks or so.  To enable that we
 need to start organising ourselves.  As no-one else has stepped up I
 am sending out this message but I have to admit I have limited
 knowledge of the Debian process of porting and packaging.  I suspect
 we may be all on a step learning curve.  Has anyone heard from Arthur
 Loiret?  It would be nice to get an actual Debian Developer on board.

I have experience building debian packages that we use internally here at
Stanford.  I can help with basic packaging.

 The debian-ports server is a wanna-build server.  It maintains a
 database of built and needs to be built packages and manages the
 allocation of building to buildds.  I believe debian-ports also hosts
 the accessible apt package repository.

 It appears we are to provide the Alpha buildds.  We need at least two
 for redundancy but if older hardware is used then we may need three or
 four.  Craig, Witold, Robert, are you all able to offer a machine to
 be a buildd?  I don't think I can---I have an XP1000 that is my main
 computer that I use, and two PWS600au, but they are a bit slow.

I have several AlphaServer 1200s and DecServer 5000s that are idle right
now.  I can probably only bring two onto the net, but I am happy to do that.

 Who is prepared to assist in the checking of built package logs,
 uploading successful builds, and reporting build failures?
 Hopefully we can get three or four of us so that it lightens the load
 and enables package builds to continue when someone is unavailable.  I
 volunteer for some of this load --- but I won't be able to attend to
 it every day.  It will be more likely twice a week.

I can also help with looking the the build logs.

 There are some other things we have to sort out to have a fully
 working Alpha autobuilder network but the above is a start.

Thanks for your efforts and let me know what I can do to help.

Bill

 Cheers
 Michael.

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RE: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-14 Thread Oliver Falk
  I have some machines and if you want to have them - feel free to write
  me an e-mail. Pickup in Austria...
 
 LOL.
 
 I do hope to be in Germany in the fall for LDAPCon.  Think I can bring them
 back to the states as carry on luggage?

Well. I guess that's only an option for people in Europe - of course...

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RE: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-14 Thread Oliver Falk
  I have some machines and if you want to have them - feel free to write
  me an e-mail. Pickup in Austria...
 
 LOL.
 
 I do hope to be in Germany in the fall for LDAPCon.  Think I can bring them
 back to the states as carry on luggage?

Well. I guess that's only an option for people in Europe - of course...

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