Re: alpha server 8 5/500
After finishing install, at first boot Xorg crashed with there error: Xorg.0.log > http://pastebin.com/m16f513bf Xorg.conf > http://pastebin.com/m62627320 On 1/16/08, socraxko, tomaxko's evil personality <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i want to use some old as800 and want to install linux on it, i've only > tried with debian "etch" until now, i know that centos, *BSD and alpha core > are also available, but i want to stick with debian. > > this is my first time installing an alpha port of debian, booting process > is ok, installing process begins and stops at recognizing hardware because > no cd-rom "driver" is available, so install process can´t continue, i've > also tried to configure the network for remote install but the nic can´t be > recognized either. > > i've googled for this with little success, the AS800 hardware is intact, > with no modifications, the cd drive i believe is DEC, all drives are scsi > but the floppy. > > the scsi board controller is a Qlogic qla1040. > > note: the debian-40r2-alpha-kde-CD-1.iso has 672.518.144 bytes, and the > cd-rom specs are 600mb, don´t know if this could be a problem. >
Re: alpha server 8 5/500
I think my problem is solved, i upgraded the dac960 firmware to the latest release (2.70) from HP. now install-debian is in progress, i'll let you know how it ends. - thanks for your time. On 1/22/08, Ivan Jager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Jan 2008, socraxko, tomaxko's evil personality wrote: > > I've managed to boot over the network and begin the install process, > > however when i get to the "Partition disks" screen it only shows One > disk, a > > scsi seagate of 2Gb (QLogic qla1280 controller).. > > and i can't view my raid5 (DAC960 controller) ~12Gb Disk Array. > > > > lsmod shows: > > > > sd_mod26504 0 > > DAC96092400 1 > > qla1280 128992 0 > > scsi_mod175400 2 sd_mod, qla1280 > > > > i'm no expert, but both modules seems to be loaded. > > Got any ideas? > > 1. RTFM linux/Documentation/README.DAC960 . Check that your card and > firmware version are supported. If you don't have linux sources anywhere, > http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/README.DAC960 seems to have copy, > which may or may not be the latest version. > > 2. Read the output of dmesg. I'm guessing it is complaining about an > unsupported firmware version. That's just a guess, since you didn't > provide much information. (Checking that the module was loaded is a good > step in the right direction, but you should check other basic things too.) > > > Ivan >
Re: alpha server 8 5/500
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008, socraxko, tomaxko's evil personality wrote: I've managed to boot over the network and begin the install process, however when i get to the "Partition disks" screen it only shows One disk, a scsi seagate of 2Gb (QLogic qla1280 controller).. and i can't view my raid5 (DAC960 controller) ~12Gb Disk Array. lsmod shows: sd_mod26504 0 DAC96092400 1 qla1280 128992 0 scsi_mod175400 2 sd_mod, qla1280 i'm no expert, but both modules seems to be loaded. Got any ideas? 1. RTFM linux/Documentation/README.DAC960 . Check that your card and firmware version are supported. If you don't have linux sources anywhere, http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/README.DAC960 seems to have copy, which may or may not be the latest version. 2. Read the output of dmesg. I'm guessing it is complaining about an unsupported firmware version. That's just a guess, since you didn't provide much information. (Checking that the module was loaded is a good step in the right direction, but you should check other basic things too.) Ivan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alpha server 8 5/500
I've managed to boot over the network and begin the install process, however when i get to the "Partition disks" screen it only shows One disk, a scsi seagate of 2Gb (QLogic qla1280 controller).. and i can't view my raid5 (DAC960 controller) ~12Gb Disk Array. lsmod shows: sd_mod26504 0 DAC96092400 1 qla1280 128992 0 scsi_mod175400 2 sd_mod, qla1280 i'm no expert, but both modules seems to be loaded. Got any ideas? On 1/18/08, mel kravitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The installer program can not detect your scsi cdrom ..hence no driver, > there is no ide on the mother board on this server. If there are boot > floppies available(?) to get a network install that would be the way to go. > I normally install NetBSD on this 21164 box that way from SRM console- >> b > DVA0. Check the debian website for boot floopies..perhaps someone on this > list can help. > -Mel > On Jan 18, 2008 8:18 AM, socraxko, tomaxko's evil personality < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > i´ve also tried installing the newest debian-testing-alpha-kde-CD-1.isobut > > i´m getting the same error, booting from cd is ok, but when recognizing > > hardware it can´t find the cd-rom for install. > > has anyone installed debian on a AS800 before? > > > > On 1/16/08, mel kravitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Try lenny or testing disk 1, i just booted and installed testing on a > > > Titan -ES45, out of the box everything worked. On another note building a > > > custom linux-2.26.23-12 kernel builds fine and boots but xinit fails > > > with 'No /dev/fb0' support, this of course is xorg. All graphics/ fbdev > > > kernel options are turned on. > > > Any help here would be appreciated. > > > -Mel > > > http://www.caseydoodle.com/index1.html > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: alpha server 8 5/500
The installer program can not detect your scsi cdrom ..hence no driver, there is no ide on the mother board on this server. If there are boot floppies available(?) to get a network install that would be the way to go. I normally install NetBSD on this 21164 box that way from SRM console- >> b DVA0. Check the debian website for boot floopies..perhaps someone on this list can help. -Mel On Jan 18, 2008 8:18 AM, socraxko, tomaxko's evil personality < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i´ve also tried installing the newest debian-testing-alpha-kde-CD-1.isobut > i´m getting the same error, booting from cd is ok, but when recognizing > hardware it can´t find the cd-rom for install. > has anyone installed debian on a AS800 before? > > On 1/16/08, mel kravitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Try lenny or testing disk 1, i just booted and installed testing on a > > Titan -ES45, out of the box everything worked. On another note building a > > custom linux-2.26.23-12 kernel builds fine and boots but xinit fails > > with 'No /dev/fb0' support, this of course is xorg. All graphics/ fbdev > > kernel options are turned on. > > Any help here would be appreciated. > > -Mel > > http://www.caseydoodle.com/index1.html > > > >
Re: alpha server 8 5/500
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 10:24:44AM -0400, socraxko, tomaxko's evil personality wrote: > i'll have to make a null-modem cable, does it need to handle hand-shaking? > i'll use this howto > http://www.lammertbies.nl/comm/info/RS-232_null_modem.html > > AS800 <---null-modem-cable> WIN2K PC > > on the as800 i believe i've to boot like this >>> boot dka400 -f 1 > according to http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/alpha/ch05s01.html.en > > and on the PC side i intend to use hyperterminal. > > is something missing? > Thanks you for your support.. Well the -f 1 should work from the CD to get console on the first serial port. Make sure your terminal program has the right baud rate set and flow control turned off. Of course you could try -2 just in case you are on the second serial port instead. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alpha server 8 5/500
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 12:18:14AM +0100, Uwe Schindler wrote: > I have an Alphastation 500/500 with a QLA 1040, too. Disk was SCSI and > CD-ROM was a DEC one (SCSI). The original CD-ROM was not intact and did not > like burned CDs. I replaced it by a TEAC CD-R 56 CD burner, which worked > perfectly. On the other hand, another CD-burner (Plextor) was not working, > because SRM console said, that it was not possible to switch the drive to > some special DEC mode with another sector size (I cannot recognize it > anymore). But the TEAC CD-R 56 works until now. A lot of plextor scsi drives have a jumper to enable 512byte mode. It is usually required by unix systems to use them for booting. Certainly my 12x plextor scsi drive has that jumper, although I have never got around to trying it on my SGI or DEC (I installed the SGI by netboot instead). > My Debian is now installed on a new and large Seagate SATA disc on a 5 $ > SATA PCI controller (SiI 3114) with standard partition table, the /boot > mountpoint is an old SCSI ZIP drive which replaces the floppy in the box, > partitioned in the standard BSD/Tru64 way from which SRM can boot. Yeah I am thinking of putting in a small scsi disk to boot from and a large IDE or SATA disk on my 433a as well. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alpha server 8 5/500
i'll have to make a null-modem cable, does it need to handle hand-shaking? i'll use this howto http://www.lammertbies.nl/comm/info/RS-232_null_modem.html AS800 <---null-modem-cable> WIN2K PC on the as800 i believe i've to boot like this >>> boot dka400 -f 1 according to http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/alpha/ch05s01.html.en and on the PC side i intend to use hyperterminal. is something missing? Thanks you for your support.. On 1/17/08, Lennart Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 08:29:33AM -0400, socraxko, tomaxko's evil > personality wrote: > > i want to use some old as800 and want to install linux on it, i've only > > tried with debian "etch" until now, i know that centos, *BSD and alpha > core > > are also available, but i want to stick with debian. > > > > this is my first time installing an alpha port of debian, booting > process is > > ok, installing process begins and stops at recognizing hardware because > no > > cd-rom "driver" is available, so install process can?t continue, i've > also > > tried to configure the network for remote install but the nic can?t be > > recognized either. > > Would it be possible to boot with a serial console and capture the boot > messages? > > > i've googled for this with little success, the AS800 hardware is intact, > > with no modifications, the cd drive i believe is DEC, all drives are > scsi > > but the floppy. > > > > the scsi board controller is a Qlogic qla1040. > > > > note: the debian-40r2-alpha-kde-CD-1.iso has 672.518.144 bytes, and the > > cd-rom specs are 600mb, don?t know if this could be a problem. > > CDrom's generally handle 680MB. Looks fine to me. > > I have no idea what an as800 is, although I think my PWS433a has a > qla1040 controller in it, but the CDrom is IDE on it, with the disk on > the scsi controller. It installed just fine though. > > -- > Len Sorensen >
Re: alpha server 8 5/500
i´ve also tried installing the newest debian-testing-alpha-kde-CD-1.iso but i´m getting the same error, booting from cd is ok, but when recognizing hardware it can´t find the cd-rom for install. has anyone installed debian on a AS800 before? On 1/16/08, mel kravitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try lenny or testing disk 1, i just booted and installed testing on a > Titan -ES45, out of the box everything worked. On another note building a > custom linux-2.26.23-12 kernel builds fine and boots but xinit fails with > 'No /dev/fb0' support, this of course is xorg. All graphics/ fbdev kernel > options are turned on. > Any help here would be appreciated. > -Mel > http://www.caseydoodle.com/index1.html >
RE: alpha server 8 5/500
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 08:29:33AM -0400, socraxko, tomaxko's evil > personality wrote: > > i want to use some old as800 and want to install linux on it, i've only > > tried with debian "etch" until now, i know that centos, *BSD and alpha > core > > are also available, but i want to stick with debian. > > > > this is my first time installing an alpha port of debian, booting > process is > > ok, installing process begins and stops at recognizing hardware because > no > > cd-rom "driver" is available, so install process can?t continue, i've > also > > tried to configure the network for remote install but the nic can?t be > > recognized either. > > Would it be possible to boot with a serial console and capture the boot > messages? > > > i've googled for this with little success, the AS800 hardware is intact, > > with no modifications, the cd drive i believe is DEC, all drives are > scsi > > but the floppy. > > > > the scsi board controller is a Qlogic qla1040. > > > > note: the debian-40r2-alpha-kde-CD-1.iso has 672.518.144 bytes, and the > > cd-rom specs are 600mb, don?t know if this could be a problem. > > CDrom's generally handle 680MB. Looks fine to me. > > I have no idea what an as800 is, although I think my PWS433a has a > qla1040 controller in it, but the CDrom is IDE on it, with the disk on > the scsi controller. It installed just fine though. I have an Alphastation 500/500 with a QLA 1040, too. Disk was SCSI and CD-ROM was a DEC one (SCSI). The original CD-ROM was not intact and did not like burned CDs. I replaced it by a TEAC CD-R 56 CD burner, which worked perfectly. On the other hand, another CD-burner (Plextor) was not working, because SRM console said, that it was not possible to switch the drive to some special DEC mode with another sector size (I cannot recognize it anymore). But the TEAC CD-R 56 works until now. My Debian is now installed on a new and large Seagate SATA disc on a 5 $ SATA PCI controller (SiI 3114) with standard partition table, the /boot mountpoint is an old SCSI ZIP drive which replaces the floppy in the box, partitioned in the standard BSD/Tru64 way from which SRM can boot. Uwe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alpha server 8 5/500
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 08:29:33AM -0400, socraxko, tomaxko's evil personality wrote: > i want to use some old as800 and want to install linux on it, i've only > tried with debian "etch" until now, i know that centos, *BSD and alpha core > are also available, but i want to stick with debian. > > this is my first time installing an alpha port of debian, booting process is > ok, installing process begins and stops at recognizing hardware because no > cd-rom "driver" is available, so install process can?t continue, i've also > tried to configure the network for remote install but the nic can?t be > recognized either. Would it be possible to boot with a serial console and capture the boot messages? > i've googled for this with little success, the AS800 hardware is intact, > with no modifications, the cd drive i believe is DEC, all drives are scsi > but the floppy. > > the scsi board controller is a Qlogic qla1040. > > note: the debian-40r2-alpha-kde-CD-1.iso has 672.518.144 bytes, and the > cd-rom specs are 600mb, don?t know if this could be a problem. CDrom's generally handle 680MB. Looks fine to me. I have no idea what an as800 is, although I think my PWS433a has a qla1040 controller in it, but the CDrom is IDE on it, with the disk on the scsi controller. It installed just fine though. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alpha server 8 5/500
On Jan 16, 2008 5:55 PM, Ivan Jager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, mel kravitz wrote: > > Hi, > > First-thanks for your reply. > > 1)When i boot with stock kernel 2.6.22-3-alpha-smp ,i go ->into > X-session > > (gnome-session, gdm is installed) . > > Hmm, but before starting X, does it use a framebuffer driver or text mode? obviously boots from aboot in text mode , reaches gdm point in boot and after 3 tries at X session , i can log in at console(text). > > You may need to look closely, or maybe look at dmesg. You could also press > Ctrl-Alt-F1 to go back to a normal console. > /var/log/xorg.0.log last ebntry is 'no /dev/fb0' > > > 2)My video card is 'glint' driver(pm2 card).driver in/etc/X11/ xorg.confis > > 'glint'. > > 3)I am not using 'fbdev' as driver in xorg.conf > > 4)In kernel .config file i have all the graphics options enabled that i > > normally would need. > > Does that include CONFIG_FB_PM2? > yes. > > > 5) there is no /dev/fb0, #ls -l /dev/fb0 -> /dev/null on my box? > i meen not present. > > Not existing is different from a symlink to /dev/null. Anyways, does it > not exist with either kernel? > have not checked with stock kernel 2.6.22.3.i will do that tommorow when i get back to the box. xorg.conf has not changed between kernels. > > Are you using the UseFBDev option in xorg.conf? > not that i remember, i will check it. > > Have you very carefully looked through /var/log/Xorg.0.log and compared it > to what you get when it does work? > good point, i will check it. alpha is obviosly different than i386, is there an fbset command in debian? > > Ivan > > > On Jan 16, 2008 2:49 PM, Ivan Jager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, mel kravitz wrote: > >>> Try lenny or testing disk 1, i just booted and installed testing on a > >> Titan > >>> -ES45, out of the box everything worked. On another note building a > >> custom > >>> linux-2.26.23-12 kernel builds fine and boots but xinit fails with 'No > >>> /dev/fb0' support, this of course is xorg. All graphics/ fbdev kernel > >>> options are turned on. > >>> Any help here would be appreciated. > >> > >> Forgive me for asking the obvious questions, but: > >> > >> What graphics card do you have? > >> > >> Why does xinit care about /dev/fb0? Are you using the framebuffer > driver > >> in xorg? If so, why aren't you using the driver for your video card? > Are > >> you using the option that tries to do framebuffer magic when switching > >> VTs? > >> > >> Is one of the kernel's framebuffer drivers getting used? IE, is your > >> console in text mode or graphics mode? Which framebuffer driver was > >> getting used with the previous kernel? > >> > >> Does /dev/fb0 exist? Are you running udev? > >> > >> From the little you said, my best guess would be that you are using the > >> fbdev xorg driver, and aren't getting the kernel framebuffer initalized > >> for some reason. > >> > >> Ivan > >> > > >
Re: alpha server 8 5/500
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, mel kravitz wrote: Hi, First-thanks for your reply. 1)When i boot with stock kernel 2.6.22-3-alpha-smp ,i go ->into X-session (gnome-session, gdm is installed) . Hmm, but before starting X, does it use a framebuffer driver or text mode? You may need to look closely, or maybe look at dmesg. You could also press Ctrl-Alt-F1 to go back to a normal console. 2)My video card is 'glint' driver(pm2 card).driver in/etc/X11/ xorg.conf is 'glint'. 3)I am not using 'fbdev' as driver in xorg.conf 4)In kernel .config file i have all the graphics options enabled that i normally would need. Does that include CONFIG_FB_PM2? 5) there is no /dev/fb0, #ls -l /dev/fb0 -> /dev/null on my box? Not existing is different from a symlink to /dev/null. Anyways, does it not exist with either kernel? Are you using the UseFBDev option in xorg.conf? Have you very carefully looked through /var/log/Xorg.0.log and compared it to what you get when it does work? Ivan On Jan 16, 2008 2:49 PM, Ivan Jager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, mel kravitz wrote: Try lenny or testing disk 1, i just booted and installed testing on a Titan -ES45, out of the box everything worked. On another note building a custom linux-2.26.23-12 kernel builds fine and boots but xinit fails with 'No /dev/fb0' support, this of course is xorg. All graphics/ fbdev kernel options are turned on. Any help here would be appreciated. Forgive me for asking the obvious questions, but: What graphics card do you have? Why does xinit care about /dev/fb0? Are you using the framebuffer driver in xorg? If so, why aren't you using the driver for your video card? Are you using the option that tries to do framebuffer magic when switching VTs? Is one of the kernel's framebuffer drivers getting used? IE, is your console in text mode or graphics mode? Which framebuffer driver was getting used with the previous kernel? Does /dev/fb0 exist? Are you running udev? From the little you said, my best guess would be that you are using the fbdev xorg driver, and aren't getting the kernel framebuffer initalized for some reason. Ivan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alpha server 8 5/500
Hi, First-thanks for your reply. 1)When i boot with stock kernel 2.6.22-3-alpha-smp ,i go ->into X-session (gnome-session, gdm is installed) . 2)My video card is 'glint' driver(pm2 card).driver in/etc/X11/ xorg.conf is 'glint'. 3)I am not using 'fbdev' as driver in xorg.conf 4)In kernel .config file i have all the graphics options enabled that i normally would need. 5) there is no /dev/fb0, #ls -l /dev/fb0 -> /dev/null on my box? Best -Mel On Jan 16, 2008 2:49 PM, Ivan Jager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, mel kravitz wrote: > > Try lenny or testing disk 1, i just booted and installed testing on a > Titan > > -ES45, out of the box everything worked. On another note building a > custom > > linux-2.26.23-12 kernel builds fine and boots but xinit fails with 'No > > /dev/fb0' support, this of course is xorg. All graphics/ fbdev kernel > > options are turned on. > > Any help here would be appreciated. > > Forgive me for asking the obvious questions, but: > > What graphics card do you have? > > Why does xinit care about /dev/fb0? Are you using the framebuffer driver > in xorg? If so, why aren't you using the driver for your video card? Are > you using the option that tries to do framebuffer magic when switching > VTs? > > Is one of the kernel's framebuffer drivers getting used? IE, is your > console in text mode or graphics mode? Which framebuffer driver was > getting used with the previous kernel? > > Does /dev/fb0 exist? Are you running udev? > > From the little you said, my best guess would be that you are using the > fbdev xorg driver, and aren't getting the kernel framebuffer initalized > for some reason. > > Ivan >
Re: alpha server 8 5/500
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, socraxko, tomaxko's evil personality wrote:
i want to use some old as800 and want to install linux on it, i've only
tried with debian "etch" until now, i know that centos, *BSD and alpha core
are also available, but i want to stick with debian.
this is my first time installing an alpha port of debian, booting process is
ok, installing process begins and stops at recognizing hardware because no
cd-rom "driver" is available, so install process can?t continue, i've also
tried to configure the network for remote install but the nic can?t be
recognized either.
i've googled for this with little success, the AS800 hardware is intact,
with no modifications, the cd drive i believe is DEC, all drives are scsi
but the floppy.
the scsi board controller is a Qlogic qla1040.
Did you check dmesg to see whether it loaded drivers for the qla1040?
Alt-F2 will give you a console with a shell where you can run dmesg.
Alt-F{3,4} have possibly useful messages from the installer.
note: the debian-40r2-alpha-kde-CD-1.iso has 672.518.144 bytes, and the
cd-rom specs are 600mb, don?t know if this could be a problem.
IIRC the spec was for 650 MB, which would be 681.574.400 bytes. Anyways,
that wouldn't prevent it from loading a driver for the drive. It would
have to load a driver before it could try to read the CD and get read
errors.
Ivan
