Re: Recommendations for cheap Linux-compatible Opteron mobo
If you want a AMD64 3000+, 60 GB hard drive, 512 MB memory basic server, two hour UPS, keyboard, scrollwheel mouse, etc ... the e-machines M6805 laptop is available from best buy for $1100 or so at the moment. The complexities of accelerated 3D, wireless networking and other desktop peripherals are irrelevant if you're going to use it as a 64 bit server. As a bonus, since it is a mobile processor, you can speedstep it from 3000+ to 2700+ and even down to 1300+ equivalent speeds. Really handy. Offhand I don't recall whether it uses ECC memory, but I'd assume not.
Re: Netboot- problem to find mirror
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 07:15:25PM +0200, TAC-TAC computer wrote: > am using netboot installer (Sarge) > http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/debian-installer/daily/netboot/ > > and I have problem to find a mirror with installer components. > > Err: Download installer components - Bad archive mirror The netboot installer loads some kernel modules (and installer components) from the mirror, so it has to match the installer. That means you have to tell it you're installing unstable. Use the "go back" option to get to the main menu... Once you've downloaded the installer components, you could go back and change to installing sarge again, except that there is no amd64 sarge archive. It's actually a symlink to sid, or something like that. Andreas (IIRC) said he had his own AMD64 Sarge archive, but I don't think he said he was going to put it on Alioth. > I tried to set it manually to debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org - but I am > not sure if there is the correct mirror located there, and I don't know the > right path to it. The path is /debian for the regular version, or /gcc-3.4 for the gcc 3.4 version. > Does exists a list of amd64 mirrors, and of mirrors with installer > componensts - I assume it is different. There's deb http://bach.hpc2n.umu.se/gcc-3.4 unstable main contrib non-free Get the installer components from the same mirror as the netboot image, since the kernel modules have to match the kernel. -- #define X(x,y) x##y Peter Cordes ; e-mail: X([EMAIL PROTECTED] , des.ca) "The gods confound the man who first found out how to distinguish the hours! Confound him, too, who in this place set up a sundial, to cut and hack my day so wretchedly into small pieces!" -- Plautus, 200 BC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Recommendations for cheap Linux-compatible Opteron mobo
On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 08:47:09PM +0200, Roland Fehrenbacher wrote: > Ron> What's ASRock? > > Could you please keep this spam of the list??? In that spirit, I'll reply to another message from this thread here, instead of in a separate message: I said you could use ECC RAM with Athlon64, and someone said you have to use ECC RAM with Opteron. (Both of those things are true.) My point was that if you wanted a server with ECC RAM to prevent crashes due to cosmic rays, you don't need an Opteron, because Athlon64 (even the socket 754 version) can use ECC RAM. i.e. ECC RAM doesn't require Opteron. > Mind you, this is a Debian AMD64 list and not some hardware discussion > forum!!! I thought AMD64 was such a new architecture that a lot of people are just getting them, and so on. Maybe people should be reading linuxhardware.org or something, but I think it's better for people to post here and get steered towards good hardware (with Free drivers when possible) than for them to go out and buy bad stuff (esp. ATI Radeon > 9200) and then ask how to make it work with Debian :( I think it would be good if an official Debian person would weigh in with a comment on where to draw the line in terms of threads going off on tangents about hardware (or even being purely about hardware in the first place)... -- #define X(x,y) x##y Peter Cordes ; e-mail: X([EMAIL PROTECTED] , des.ca) "The gods confound the man who first found out how to distinguish the hours! Confound him, too, who in this place set up a sundial, to cut and hack my day so wretchedly into small pieces!" -- Plautus, 200 BC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: No dma for via82cxxx SOLVED
Cierto día Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:23:00 +0200 alguien expulsó estas perlas: > [1] http://bulma.net/impresion.phtml?nIdNoticia=551 > Solved with this page's recipe. Thanks everyone. pgplic9lGwJdq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dchroot with differnt linux distro ?
Hi Tollef and all, it works partially, e.g. starting another program with dchroot does not work, opening a shell with dchroot works!?? Any ideas ? thanks, Rolf here's the output : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dchroot Executing shell in 'SLC3' chroot. [Calvin] /home/seuster > [Calvin] /home/seuster > echo bla bla [Calvin] /home/seuster > exit logout [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dchroot echo bla (SLC3) echo bla echo: /bin/echo: cannot execute binary file dchroot: Child exited non-zero. dchroot: Operation failed. and [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dchroot /usr/local/bin/bash (SLC3) /usr/local/bin/bash /usr/local/bin/bash: /usr/local/bin/bash: cannot execute binary file dchroot: Child exited non-zero. dchroot: Operation failed. On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Rolf Seuster > > | is it possible to use dchroot to mix a debian-amd64 with a different linux > | distribution, e.g. scientific linux cern (based on RedHat Enterprise) Or > | do significant differences between Debian and RedHat make this impossible? > > As Hugo Mills writes -- this should work fine. Assuming that the > RedHat folks haven't done something strange which requires you to have > certain kernel patches applied or anything like that. RH used to have > a ton of kernel patches in the past, though I don't remember if you > had to apply any of them if you decided to use your own kernel instead > of the vendor-supplied one. > > -- > Tollef Fog Heen,''`. > UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : > `. `' > `- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: No dma for via82cxxx (solved to me!!!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, I have tested several things I have found some simple thing that works ok: in the /etc/modules file I have put: via82cxxx ide-cd ide-generic [...] so the question as someone have wrotten before is to put the via82cxxx BEFORE the ide-cd or ide-generic modules. Best regards, Leo A Dijous 14 Octubre 2004 10:23, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda va escriure: > A Dimarts 12 Octubre 2004 22:22, Manwe Sulimo va escriure: > > Cierto día Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:38:09 -0300 > > > > alguien expulsó estas perlas: > > Bueno, tampoco nos pasemos, eh? ;-) > -- > > Hi, > > it's curious but the same day I have realised that I have the same problem. > I cannot activate the DMA access for the via82cxxx to my dvd. > > I did some kind of search on the net and I have one "posible" solution but > I couldn't test it yet, so please if someone could do it, inform. The link > is in spanish [1] > > In the kernel configuration you have to be sure that this options are > activated. I don't know if in the amd64 kernel series they are activated by > default: > > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y > CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO=y > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y > > > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX=y > CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=y > CONFIG_IDEDMA_IVB=y > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_MODES=y > > So, > > please if you could test it, tell something. > > Best regards, > > Leo > > [1] http://bulma.net/impresion.phtml?nIdNoticia=551 > > > sorry for my English :) - -- Linux User 152692 Catalonia -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBbtssaC7AnPlEgH4RAkK3AJsFzb8XBitxlQJmsfzgHb7zkZ2R+gCfcM/y 7yvQtt5CvaW5bDJRq0t3LZo= =0vjd -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: openoffice installation
On 2004-10-14 15:58:32 +0300, Kari Ruohonen wrote: > I am running pure64 on athlon 64 system. Debian installed fine. Now, I > have added "deb http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/ > openoffice.org/" in my sources.list, apt-get updated and found > "openoffice.org-amd64" package. I apt-get openoffice.org-amd64 but get > the following error message: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > openoffice.org-amd64: Depends: openoffice.org (> 1.1.1+1.1.2rc3) but > it is not going to be installed > > If I try to add openoffice.org on the apt-get install line, another > error message stating that this time openoffice.org-bin is missing and > this package has no install candidate. > > I have ia32-libs and ia32-libs-openoffice.org installed. What else do > I need to do? openoffice.org-debian-files is in the openoffice.org folder and also in the pure64 archive. You need the one from the openoffice.org folder. That one from the pure64 archive needs a newer openoffice.org. Try apt-get install openoffice.org-debian-files=1.1.2-2+1.0.1 Then you should be able to install openoffice.org-amd64. Michael
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Netboot- problem to find mirror
am using netboot installer (Sarge) http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/debian-installer/daily/netboot/ and I have problem to find a mirror with installer components. Err: Download installer components - Bad archive mirror I tried to set it manually to debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org - but I am not sure if there is the correct mirror located there, and I don't know the right path to it. Does exists a list of amd64 mirrors, and of mirrors with installer componensts - I assume it is different. Could anybody help me? Thanks Jiri Madle
Re: Ubuntu Linux AMD64 Port
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 12:55:26PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Mattias Wadenstein > | On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, amd64 wrote: > | > Does anyone know the relationship between the AMD64 > | > port of ubuntu linux and the amd64 port of debian? > | > > | > Is it a pure64 port? Is it based of the current > | > debian AMD64 port? > | > | They are both based on packages patched and built from the debian > | source packages and should be fairly similar. The same differences as > | between i386 ubuntu and debian applies, AFAIK. > > It's a 64bit only port, yes, and it is built with the same sources as > the rest of ubuntu, that is a stabilized, patched sid snapshot as of > late June (with fixes ported over from sid). > > Sorry for taking a while to respond -- just saw this thread. :) So it is built with gcc-3.3 then? (just to confirm) Ryan
Re: korganizer crash
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Donnerstag, 14. Oktober 2004 03:13 schrieb nunpa: > I have the same problem after one kpilot sync, instant crash with > signal 11 when korganizer starts what is when you try to start korganizer with another, fresh user? - -- Greetings / Gruss Andreas Richter http://www.oszine.de GPG-KeyID 0x7BA12DD9 Fingerprint D2E9 202B F4F0 EB16 25DE 5FF7 0CF2 3C57 7BA1 2DD9 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBbqlEDPI8V3uhLdkRApOSAJ4n6r3TcCCGxasqqb/8VEtPmPlQeACgizgn za0MQxKQT7ldvUML+3JgFeU= =/XuM -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: korganizer crash
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Donnerstag, 14. Oktober 2004 04:24 schrieb Christopher Browne: > On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:24:23 +0200, Andreas Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > when i try to start korganizer it crashs. can anybody run the program on > > debian-amd64? > > I haven't had any difficulties with korganizer. odd. here it crashs on startup. what for packages have you installed around korganizer? some kde lib that not in the dependencies from korganizer? - -- Greetings / Gruss Andreas Richter http://www.oszine.de GPG-KeyID 0x7BA12DD9 Fingerprint D2E9 202B F4F0 EB16 25DE 5FF7 0CF2 3C57 7BA1 2DD9 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBbqkeDPI8V3uhLdkRAgC5AJ9m+/Av/UOxRc1PBXQ/gIpIL5KTNQCeINlk l5Xxqm5xuye5Kd2lRURnoIA= =aYzw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
openoffice installation
I am running pure64 on athlon 64 system. Debian installed fine. Now, I have added "deb http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/ openoffice.org/" in my sources.list, apt-get updated and found "openoffice.org-amd64" package. I apt-get openoffice.org-amd64 but get the following error message: The following packages have unmet dependencies: openoffice.org-amd64: Depends: openoffice.org (> 1.1.1+1.1.2rc3) but it is not going to be installed If I try to add openoffice.org on the apt-get install line, another error message stating that this time openoffice.org-bin is missing and this package has no install candidate. I have ia32-libs and ia32-libs-openoffice.org installed. What else do I need to do? Thanks, Kari
Mix 32/64 apps?
Hi, I want to use Sarge as my base installation. I have a 64-bits kernel installed and wish to run some 64-bits applications. Is it possible to apt-get them from alioth? Specifically, I need libmotif3 from pure64 but can't seem to install it on Sarge, even though I have pure64 non-free in my sources.list. -- Groeten/Greetings, Jeroen Coumans www.jeroencoumans.nl
Re: korganizer crash
I have the same problem after one kpilot sync, instant crash with signal 11 when korganizer starts On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 08:24:23PM +0200, Andreas Richter wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > when i try to start korganizer it crashs. can anybody run the program on > debian-amd64? > > a strace korganizer ends with following lines: > > write(2, "ERROR: Communication problem wit"..., 67ERROR: Communication > problem > with korganizer, it probably crashed. > ) = 67 > close(3)= 0 > exit_group(255) = ? > > > > > - -- > Greetings / Gruss > Andreas Richter http://www.oszine.de > GPG-KeyID 0x7BA12DD9 > Fingerprint D2E9 202B F4F0 EB16 25DE 5FF7 0CF2 3C57 7BA1 2DD9 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFBbXLbDPI8V3uhLdkRAiLOAJ0QRxgfStt4jUBOQ6iq9hFaQjaSewCdFGyk > WOuIjwo3838e2Mt3dOIlfro= > =H4SZ > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- David Calzada ( NUNPA ) | "Perl: the only language that looks the same [EMAIL PROTECTED] | before and after RSA encryption"- Keith Bostic Key fingerprint = 4B0B 30F4 20EA 4726 747F AC81 6EEA E2B3 6457 5F36 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: switched to ubuntu
Dear Tollef Fog Heen, my intention have never been to make an ofense to the ubuntu team. When I said > | Otherwise, to me the important thing is that it's a pity to have a > | distro derived from debian that have resolved some question better > | and there's no feedback to the original distro. > I was refering as I clearified in [1] about the improvements as you refer after. We are in october 04, and the improvements of the OpenOffice (for example) are not reflected in the Debian port when in theory are done. Ubuntu has an cd for installation with a complete distro, and pure64 has a bit difficult installation... [...] > It's true that some stuff hasn't been integrated yet (like > Openoffice.org, like the fixup we need to do for ia32-libs), ... > but > saying that Ubuntu doesn't contribute back is just not fair. There's something wrong in some part. I'm not saying that Ubuntu doesn't contribute back to debian. Maybe Debian is not taking the contributions of ubuntu If I'm saying that is a pity, I'm refering that they are done it better. I think that debian is the best distro by several reasons. But if some distro (worst if is derived from debian) do something better that the "original", ur. Ok,? I'm talking about that, not if the Ubuntu's guys are hiding or not contributing things to debian. And, as we are talking of free software, if someone do something better than you, "use it", it's ~GPL . That's all. Leo [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2004/10/msg00142.html > -- > Tollef Fog Heen > ,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are > : :' : `. `' `-
Re: dchroot with differnt linux distro ?
* Rolf Seuster | is it possible to use dchroot to mix a debian-amd64 with a different linux | distribution, e.g. scientific linux cern (based on RedHat Enterprise) Or | do significant differences between Debian and RedHat make this impossible? As Hugo Mills writes -- this should work fine. Assuming that the RedHat folks haven't done something strange which requires you to have certain kernel patches applied or anything like that. RH used to have a ton of kernel patches in the past, though I don't remember if you had to apply any of them if you decided to use your own kernel instead of the vendor-supplied one. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `-
Re: switched to ubuntu
* Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda | Otherwise, to me the important thing is that it's a pity to have a | distro derived from debian that have resolved some question better | and there's no feedback to the original distro. http://www.no-name-yet.com/patches/ and http://raw.no/patches/ (a fair bit from the latter is pre-ubuntu, though) Please say again that ubuntu hasn't contributed back. It's true that some stuff hasn't been integrated yet (like Openoffice.org, like the fixup we need to do for ia32-libs), but saying that Ubuntu doesn't contribute back is just not fair. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `-
Re: Ubuntu Linux AMD64 Port
* Mattias Wadenstein | On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, amd64 wrote: | | > Does anyone know the relationship between the AMD64 | > port of ubuntu linux and the amd64 port of debian? | > | > Is it a pure64 port? Is it based of the current | > debian AMD64 port? | | They are both based on packages patched and built from the debian | source packages and should be fairly similar. The same differences as | between i386 ubuntu and debian applies, AFAIK. It's a 64bit only port, yes, and it is built with the same sources as the rest of ubuntu, that is a stabilized, patched sid snapshot as of late June (with fixes ported over from sid). Sorry for taking a while to respond -- just saw this thread. :) -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `-
Re: dchroot with differnt linux distro ?
On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 06:47:14PM -1000, Rolf Seuster wrote: > > Hi all, > > is it possible to use dchroot to mix a debian-amd64 with a different linux > distribution, e.g. scientific linux cern (based on RedHat Enterprise) Or > do significant differences between Debian and RedHat make this impossible? Yes, it's perfectly possible to do so. I've run Debian in a chroot on a SuSE box before, and I currently have a Debian 32 bit chroot on my Ubuntu 64 bit installation (admittedly, the difference in the latter case is small, but...). Hugo. -- === Hugo Mills: [EMAIL PROTECTED] carfax.org.uk | darksatanic.net | lug.org.uk === PGP key: 1C335860 from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net or http://www.carfax.org.uk --- You can get more with a kind word and a 2"x4" than you can --- with just a kind word. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: No dma for via82cxxx
A Dimarts 12 Octubre 2004 22:22, Manwe Sulimo va escriure: > Cierto día Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:38:09 -0300 > > alguien expulsó estas perlas: Bueno, tampoco nos pasemos, eh? ;-) -- Hi, it's curious but the same day I have realised that I have the same problem. I cannot activate the DMA access for the via82cxxx to my dvd. I did some kind of search on the net and I have one "posible" solution but I couldn't test it yet, so please if someone could do it, inform. The link is in spanish [1] In the kernel configuration you have to be sure that this options are activated. I don't know if in the amd64 kernel series they are activated by default: CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX=y CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=y CONFIG_IDEDMA_IVB=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_MODES=y So, please if you could test it, tell something. Best regards, Leo [1] http://bulma.net/impresion.phtml?nIdNoticia=551 > sorry for my English :)
dchroot with differnt linux distro ?
Hi all, is it possible to use dchroot to mix a debian-amd64 with a different linux distribution, e.g. scientific linux cern (based on RedHat Enterprise) Or do significant differences between Debian and RedHat make this impossible? Thanks, Rolf
