Re: [update] More 32bit packages for amd64

2005-07-18 Thread Ed Tomlinson
On Monday 18 July 2005 09:03, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Ed Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Sunday 17 July 2005 13:28, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> >> Package fetching is done by reprepro and turning it more verbose gives
> >> some more messages but not a download progress for files.
> >> 
> >> The package fetching is also going to be done by a cron job normaly.
> >> Unless it gets an error it should not say anything (in the finished
> >> package).  I will think about something for the initial install but my
> >> current plan is to have it create an empty archive and start the cron
> >> job once manualy in the background.
> >> 
> >> So, having an interactive (i.e. with download progress) update script
> >> is not a high priority just now. Later, for people that don't want the
> >> cron job, maybe. But the reprepro maintainer has to provide support
> >> for that.
> >
> > How well will this work?  For instance, I do not really want to maintain
> > a chroot.   The one app I sometimes miss is wine.  Do you think this can
> > be supported with the new package arch?
> >
> > TIA, 
> > Ed Tomlinson
> 
> Add wine and libwine to packages.list and it probably works already. I
> haven't found anything besides libc6 which needs special tricks for
> the conversion yet, the general conversion rules work very well.

This ends up with:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  ia32-libwine: Depends: xlibmesa3-gl which is a virtual package. or
 ia32-libgl1 which is a virtual package.
which does not seem to want to resolve...  here is what I added:
wine
libncurses5
libxi6
libwine

Suspect that one of these libs might need some help.

> And wine is on my todo. Next time I wanna play StarCraft at the
> latest.

Thanks
Ed Tomlinson



Re: [update] More 32bit packages for amd64

2005-07-18 Thread v0n0
Goswin von Brederlow ha scritto:

>I added OpenOffice.org to amd64-archive now and fixed the resulting
>problems. I can now install and run OOo without any chroot with this.
>
>  
>
I could (I think?) with ia32libs since a few months.

>The package isn't perfect yet so there are some details you have to do
>for now:
>
>- wget 
>http://amd64.debian.net/~goswin/amd64-archive/amd64-archive_0.2_amd64.deb
>  
>
ok

>- dpkg -i amd64-archive_0.2_amd64.deb
>
>  This will download the i386 debs and convert them. Gives a lot of
>  output.
>  
>
ok, went well (when I installed dependancies), but downloaded and
mangled sarge-etch-sid versions of every package! Why? In my sources I
have only Etch and Sid

>- Add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list
>
>  # Converted 32bit debs
>  deb file:///var/lib/amd64-archive sarge main contrib non-free
>  
>
added this

>  # Only needed for sarge users (I think)
>  deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian dists/sarge/main/binary-i386/
>  
>
skipped

>  Both etch and sid are also supported but untested.
>
>  
>
I'm using Sid

>- apt-get update; apt-get install openoffice.org
>  
>
complains that there isn't a newer version of
openoffice.org-debian-files (I installed version 1.1.2 with ia32-libs),
maybe should I remove old software first?

>  Check what apt-get wants to remove as it might remove the wrong
>  thing. It works for me but you might have something else installed.
>  Removing ia32-libs is intentional though.
>
>  
>
weren't removed

Thanks for all, awaiting for w32codecs and wine...Starcraft! ;)

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Re: Almost there

2005-07-18 Thread Mike Reinehr
On Monday 18 July 2005 05:52 pm, Gary Hodges wrote:
 ...
> /dev/sda1 (/boot) is ext2 and all the other partitions are ReiserFS.  
> I'm using the standard kernel included with the debian installer.  Note
> that I'm not using what is considered to be the stable installer, but a
> daily build I found somewhere.  It is build 7-6-2005.  The stable
> installer doesn't see the on-board NIC.  I believe all the installers
> are using the same kernel (2.6.8-11).  I don't know if initrd was
> created correctly.  Is there a way to test it?

It's looking as if GRUB is not the problem, which leaves the initrd. 
The 
short answer to your question is "I don't know." The long answer is that it 
might be documented in /usr/share/doc/kernel ... I would think that if the 
installer allowed you to create a ReiserFS file system, that the kernel & 
initrd supplied with the installer would be capable of mounting it, but 
stranger things have happened.

At this point, I have two thoughts. First, it's time to go home, have a 
beer 
and a good night's sleep & work on this again, in the morning -- which is 
what I'm about to do!

My second thought is to fire-up Knoppix again. Chroot into /dev/sda2. 
Mount /dev/sda1 as boot on /dev/sda2 and then install another, more current 
kernel or, even, compile your own with make-kpkg. But, if you're not familiar 
with all this, this too would be better left until tomorrow.

Cheers, and have a good night!

cmr

> >   There's basically two possible problems, here. Either grub is not
> > looking in the right place for your root file system, or it is, but initd
> > is unable to mount it. As Sherlock Holmes used to say, "When you've
> > eliminated the impossible, whatever is left, however, improbable, must be
> > the answer!" ;-)
>
> Thanks for the comments!
>
> Gary

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Re: java e firefox

2005-07-18 Thread v0n0
Manuel D ha scritto:

> stavo visualizzando un mms sul sito della vodafone quando firefox mi
> allerta che mi manca la piattaforma java. No problem, mi scarico il
> .bin   (15 MB) dal sito ufficiale e lo installo.
> Tutto ok.
> Peccato che ha firefox non sembra fregargliene nulla... :-( ogni volta
> mi chiede di scaricare il plug-in.
> la causa può essere che non ho firefox inserito nel path? in questo
> caso, come faccio ad ovviare al problema? non c'è modo di dire a
> firefox che io il java l'ho installato?

scarica la versione di blackdown java (è già pacchettizzata)

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Re: Almost there

2005-07-18 Thread Gary Hodges

Mike Reinehr wrote:


Gary,

On Monday 18 July 2005 04:45 pm, Gary Hodges wrote:
 


Mike Reinehr wrote:
   


Gary,

On Monday 18 July 2005 03:31 pm, Gary Hodges wrote:
 


Frederik Schueler wrote:
   


Hello,

On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 01:07:22PM -0600, Gary Hodges wrote:
 


pivot_root: No such file or directory
/sbin/init: 432: cannot open dev/console: No such file
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!
   


Make sure your boot-loader loads the initrd along with the kernel.
 


There's no question that the initd is being loaded. That is what is
giving you the error message. All the drivers necessary to mounting the
HD have been loaded and it is attempting to mount the root partition and
switch to it.

 


Thanks for the reply.  I just went through the boot steps by hand and
I'm fairly sure initrd has been loaded.  Here is what one of my grub
menu options looks like:

root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda2 ro console=tty0
initrd /initrd.img
savedefault
boot

   






	When you were running Knoppix, did you actually take a look at /dev/sda2 to 
make sure that you had a root file system there? It should already have been 
mounted automatically by Knoppix and shown up on the desktop as an icon.
 


I just booted to Knoppix again to make sure.  Here is what I found:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/root 3.4M   17K  3.4M   1% /
/dev/hda  696M  696M 0 100% /cdrom
/dev/cloop1.9G  1.9G 0 100% /KNOPPIX
/ramdisk  2.6G  4.8M  2.6G   1% /ramdisk
/UNIONFS  4.5G  1.9G  2.6G  43% /UNIONFS
/UNIONFS/dev/sda1  89M  6.7M   77M   8% /mnt/sda1
/UNIONFS/dev/sda2 957M   88M  870M  10% /mnt/sda2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ls /mnt/sda1
System.map-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8-smp  initrd.img-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8-smp
config-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8-smp  lost+found
grub  vmlinuz
initrd.imgvmlinuz-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8-smp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ls /mnt/sda2
bin   cdrom  etc   initrd  lib64  mnt  proc  sbin  sys  usr
boot  devhome  lib media  opt  root  srv   tmp  var



If all else fails, you might have to boot off of a Knoppix cd & rerun
grub-install.
 


I have booted off a knoppix CD and tried running grub-install.  For
kicks I just went through the procedure again.  Here are the steps
performed while booted under Knoppix:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] grub-install /dev/sda

Installation finished. No error reported.
This is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map.
Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,
fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.

(hd0)   /dev/sda
(hd1)   /dev/sdb

[EMAIL PROTECTED] grub
   GNU GRUB  version 0.95  (640K lower / 3072K upper memory)

grub> root (hd0,0)
Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83

grub> setup (hd0)
Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no
Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... yes
Checking if "/grub/stage2" exists... yes
Checking if "/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes
Running "embed /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)"...  16 sectors are embedded.
succeeded
Running "install /grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+16 p (hd0,0)/grub/stage2
/grub/menu
.lst"... succeeded
Done.
   

	When you did your initial install, did you create a separate boot partition? 
Grub, definitely, is finding it's boot files on /dev/sda1.




I did.  That is /dev/sda1.

	What file system did you use when creating the root file system? Are you 
using a standard kernel, or did you compile your own? Was the initd created 
with the correct drivers to mount the root file system?


/dev/sda1 (/boot) is ext2 and all the other partitions are ReiserFS.  
I'm using the standard kernel included with the debian installer.  Note 
that I'm not using what is considered to be the stable installer, but a 
daily build I found somewhere.  It is build 7-6-2005.  The stable 
installer doesn't see the on-board NIC.  I believe all the installers 
are using the same kernel (2.6.8-11).  I don't know if initrd was 
created correctly.  Is there a way to test it?


	There's basically two possible problems, here. Either grub is not looking in 
the right place for your root file system, or it is, but initd is unable to 
mount it. As Sherlock Holmes used to say, "When you've eliminated the 
impossible, whatever is left, however, improbable, must be the answer!" ;-)




Thanks for the comments!

Gary


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Problems linking static

2005-07-18 Thread Ray Lanza
I'm running debian/sid on an Opteron. After an upgrade last week I haven't
been able to build a statically linked program.  It looks like a libc.a
problem? Has anyone else seen this problem? 

thanks,
ray



fo% cc -o hello -static hello.c
/usr/bin/ld: __libc_errno: TLS definition in
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.0.1/../../../../lib64/libc.a(errno.o)
section .tbss mismatches non-TLS reference in
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.0.1/../../../../lib64/libc.a(check_fds.o)
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.0.1/../../../../lib64/libc.a: could not read
symbols: Bad value
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status



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Re: Almost there

2005-07-18 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello,

On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 01:07:22PM -0600, Gary Hodges wrote:
> pivot_root: No such file or directory
> /sbin/init: 432: cannot open dev/console: No such file
> Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!
 
Make sure your boot-loader loads the initrd along with the kernel.

Best regards
Frederik Schueler

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Re: e-machines M6809 + sarge

2005-07-18 Thread Mark Nipper
On 18 Jul 2005, Brendon J. Colby wrote:
> I've been searching for a while trying to figure out this problem. I'm 
> trying to get the AMD64 build of Sarge installed on my emachines m6809 
> laptop. I can boot the AMD64 Sarge network install just fine and get 
> through the inital installation, but when I reboot to finish the rest of 
> the install, it hangs at the PCI hotplug section. It dumps out a bunch 
> of APIC related errors I think (I'm at work, so I don't have the exact 
> errors).
> 
> I know there have been multiple complaints about the APIC stuff causing 
> problems and e-machines / Gateway refuses to offer a BIOS update. I 
> can't find any of the un-authorized BIOS updates either (some people had 
> luck updating to the m6811 bios). I've also tried giving the noapic boot 
> options to no avail.
> 
> Has anyone gotten Sarge installed on this laptop?

The site used to be:
---
http://www.rmecc.com/~v2/em/

but doesn't appear to be available any longer unfortunately.
E-machines has the firmware download available still through
their site for the M6805 which should work for your laptop, but
the standard warnings and disclaimers apply here since I do not
own the M6809 but the M6805.
---
http://downloads.emachines.com/bios/M6805_Shadow-K8.exe

As to whether the original flaky E-machines BIOS is
causing your APIC problems or not, do you have Windows XP
installed with SP2 also?  If so, just unplugging the AC
connection would deadlock my M6805 with the old BIOS whereas it
works without problems on the new BIOS.  And after I updated to
the newer BIOS (using the above installer from E-machines), I
could boot Knoppix without any problems and didn't have to pass
any special options anymore to get a full boot to occur.

Anyway, sorry I cannot be any more specific than that.
I'm currently only running Debian AMD64 on my desktop system even
though I have this fine AMD64 laptop.  I'm keeping an eye on the
new Turion laptops, but that will have to wait for now.  If you
need any help from me, let me know.  I'm on the laptop right at
the moment, but if you want to compare BIOS versions or some
such, just let me know.  I'll just need to reboot to get the
string.

Good luck!

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Re: Almost there

2005-07-18 Thread Mike Reinehr
Gary,

On Monday 18 July 2005 04:45 pm, Gary Hodges wrote:
> Mike Reinehr wrote:
> >Gary,
> >
> >On Monday 18 July 2005 03:31 pm, Gary Hodges wrote:
> >>Frederik Schueler wrote:
> >>>Hello,
> >>>
> >>>On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 01:07:22PM -0600, Gary Hodges wrote:
> pivot_root: No such file or directory
> /sbin/init: 432: cannot open dev/console: No such file
> Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!
> >>>
> >>>Make sure your boot-loader loads the initrd along with the kernel.
> >
> > There's no question that the initd is being loaded. That is what is
> > giving you the error message. All the drivers necessary to mounting the
> > HD have been loaded and it is attempting to mount the root partition and
> > switch to it.
> >
> >>Thanks for the reply.  I just went through the boot steps by hand and
> >>I'm fairly sure initrd has been loaded.  Here is what one of my grub
> >>menu options looks like:
> >>
> >>root (hd0,0)
> >>kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda2 ro console=tty0
> >>initrd /initrd.img
> >>savedefault
> >>boot
> >>
> >>There is something funny there though.  root is actually on sda1.  Also
> >>the savedefault command doesn't work when running those commands
> >>manually.  When I step through each command manually, changing to sda1
> >>obviously, everything looks fine to me (with the exception of
> >>savedefault responding with a command not found error).
> >>
> >>When I edit the command to change sda2 to sda1, upon reboot it has been
> >>changed back to sda2.  All attempts to boot the machine result in the
> >
> > When you boot and receive the GRUB boot menu, use the cursor key to go
> > down or up to highlight the boot option you've quoted above. (This also
> > will stop the clock.) Then press 'e' to edit the boot entry. Once there,
> > cursor down to the kernel line and again press 'e' to edit the line,
> > changing
> >'root=/dev/sda2' to 'root=/dev/sda1'. Hit 'esc' to exit the line and then
> >press 'b' to boot. If your root file system is, in fact, located on
> > /dev/sda1 then you should be able to successfully boot.
>
> My mistake.  My root file system / is actually sda2.  I checked some
> other machines and slash is what this root refers to.  I won't call this
> a moot point, but it doesn't matter if it is set to sda1 or sda2 as I
> get the same results.

When you were running Knoppix, did you actually take a look at 
/dev/sda2 to 
make sure that you had a root file system there? It should already have been 
mounted automatically by Knoppix and shown up on the desktop as an icon.

> > If all else fails, you might have to boot off of a Knoppix cd & rerun
> >grub-install.
>
> I have booted off a knoppix CD and tried running grub-install.  For
> kicks I just went through the procedure again.  Here are the steps
> performed while booted under Knoppix:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] grub-install /dev/sda
> Due to a bug in xfs_freeze, the following command might produce a
> segmentation
> fault when /boot/grub is not in an XFS filesystem. This error is
> harmless and
> can be ignored.
> xfs_freeze: specified file ["/boot/grub"] is not on an XFS filesystem
> Installation finished. No error reported.
> This is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map.
> Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,
> fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.
>
> (hd0)   /dev/sda
> (hd1)   /dev/sdb
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] grub
> GNU GRUB  version 0.95  (640K lower / 3072K upper memory)
>
>  [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported.  For the first word, TAB
>lists possible command completions.  Anywhere else TAB lists the
> possible completions of a device/filename. ]
>
> grub> root (hd0,0)
>  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
>
> grub> setup (hd0)
>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no
>  Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... yes
>  Checking if "/grub/stage2" exists... yes
>  Checking if "/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes
>  Running "embed /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)"...  16 sectors are embedded.
> succeeded
>  Running "install /grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+16 p (hd0,0)/grub/stage2
> /grub/menu
> .lst"... succeeded
> Done.
>
> Gary

When you did your initial install, did you create a separate boot 
partition? 
Grub, definitely, is finding it's boot files on /dev/sda1.

What file system did you use when creating the root file system? Are 
you 
using a standard kernel, or did you compile your own? Was the initd created 
with the correct drivers to mount the root file system?

There's basically two possible problems, here. Either grub is not 
looking in 
the right place for your root file system, or it is, but initd is unable to 
mount it. As Sherlock Holmes used to say, "When you've eliminated the 
impossible, whatever is left, however, improbable, must be the answer!" ;-)

Cheers!

cmr

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Re: comments about hardware

2005-07-18 Thread Faheem Mitha



On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Ed Tomlinson wrote:


Hi,

Dual core support is not distro specific.  It depends on the kernel used.
I believe that debian, with a recent (2.6.12.3+) kernel should be fine.


Do you have any personal experience in using this? I'm concerned about 
stability issues.


Also, would there not be some practical difficulty in getting this 
installed, seeing as with an earlier kernel it probably won't boot, and 
the official Debian installers all use 2.6.8?


   Faheem.


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Re: Almost there

2005-07-18 Thread Gary Hodges

Frederik Schueler wrote:


Hello,

On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 01:07:22PM -0600, Gary Hodges wrote:
 


pivot_root: No such file or directory
/sbin/init: 432: cannot open dev/console: No such file
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!
   



Make sure your boot-loader loads the initrd along with the kernel.



Thanks for the reply.  I just went through the boot steps by hand and 
I'm fairly sure initrd has been loaded.  Here is what one of my grub 
menu options looks like:


root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda2 ro console=tty0
initrd /initrd.img
savedefault
boot

There is something funny there though.  root is actually on sda1.  Also 
the savedefault command doesn't work when running those commands 
manually.  When I step through each command manually, changing to sda1 
obviously, everything looks fine to me (with the exception of 
savedefault responding with a command not found error).


When I edit the command to change sda2 to sda1, upon reboot it has been 
changed back to sda2.  All attempts to boot the machine result in the 
Kernel panic.


Gary


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Almost there

2005-07-18 Thread Gary Hodges
Sorry if this is a dup.  I wasn't subscribed when I sent it the first 
time...


I posted a few weeks about having problems installing sarge amd64 on a 
Tyan K8WE MB.  I have gotten past the initial problems and have even 
installed sarge on this machine.  The problem now is it dies during the 
boot process with the following:


pivot_root: No such file or directory
/sbin/init: 432: cannot open dev/console: No such file
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!

Some googling indicates this was a bug found and fixed during the 
installer development, however, I've since tried installing with a daily 
build of the deb amd64 installer (7-6-2005) and the same thing happens.  
I've tried both the generic and smp kernels with the same result.


I have successfully installed and booted Ubuntu so I don't believe this 
is a hardware configuration issue.  It has been suggested to install a 
newer kernel (the Ubuntu version I installed uses 2.6.11) with knoppix, 
but I have had no luck going this route due to my not being able to 
figure out how to do this.


Looking for suggestions...

Gary


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Almost there

2005-07-18 Thread Gary Hodges
I posted a few weeks about having problems installing sarge amd64 on a 
Tyan K8WE MB.  I have gotten past the initial problems and have even 
installed sarge on this machine.  The problem now is it dies during the 
boot process with the following:


pivot_root: No such file or directory
/sbin/init: 432: cannot open dev/console: No such file
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!

Some googling indicates this was a bug found and fixed during the 
installer development, however, I've since tried installing with a daily 
build of the deb amd64 installer (7-6-2005) and the same thing happens.  
I've tried both the generic and smp kernels with the same result.


I have successfully installed and booted Ubuntu so I don't believe this 
is a hardware configuration issue.  It has been suggested to install a 
newer kernel (the Ubuntu version I installed uses 2.6.11) with knoppix, 
but I have had no luck going this route.


Looking for suggestions...

Gary


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Re: Almost there

2005-07-18 Thread Gary Hodges

Mike Reinehr wrote:


Gary,

On Monday 18 July 2005 03:31 pm, Gary Hodges wrote:
 


Frederik Schueler wrote:
   


Hello,

On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 01:07:22PM -0600, Gary Hodges wrote:
 


pivot_root: No such file or directory
/sbin/init: 432: cannot open dev/console: No such file
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!
   


Make sure your boot-loader loads the initrd along with the kernel.
 



	There's no question that the initd is being loaded. That is what is giving 
you the error message. All the drivers necessary to mounting the HD have been 
loaded and it is attempting to mount the root partition and switch to it.


 


Thanks for the reply.  I just went through the boot steps by hand and
I'm fairly sure initrd has been loaded.  Here is what one of my grub
menu options looks like:

root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda2 ro console=tty0
initrd /initrd.img
savedefault
boot

There is something funny there though.  root is actually on sda1.  Also
the savedefault command doesn't work when running those commands
manually.  When I step through each command manually, changing to sda1
obviously, everything looks fine to me (with the exception of
savedefault responding with a command not found error).

When I edit the command to change sda2 to sda1, upon reboot it has been
changed back to sda2.  All attempts to boot the machine result in the
   



	When you boot and receive the GRUB boot menu, use the cursor key to go down 
or up to highlight the boot option you've quoted above. (This also will stop 
the clock.) Then press 'e' to edit the boot entry. Once there, cursor down to 
the kernel line and again press 'e' to edit the line, changing 
'root=/dev/sda2' to 'root=/dev/sda1'. Hit 'esc' to exit the line and then 
press 'b' to boot. If your root file system is, in fact, located on /dev/sda1 
then you should be able to successfully boot.




My mistake.  My root file system / is actually sda2.  I checked some 
other machines and slash is what this root refers to.  I won't call this 
a moot point, but it doesn't matter if it is set to sda1 or sda2 as I 
get the same results. 

	If all else fails, you might have to boot off of a Knoppix cd & rerun 
grub-install.




I have booted off a knoppix CD and tried running grub-install.  For 
kicks I just went through the procedure again.  Here are the steps 
performed while booted under Knoppix:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] grub-install /dev/sda
Due to a bug in xfs_freeze, the following command might produce a 
segmentation
fault when /boot/grub is not in an XFS filesystem. This error is 
harmless and

can be ignored.
xfs_freeze: specified file ["/boot/grub"] is not on an XFS filesystem
Installation finished. No error reported.
This is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map.
Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,
fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.

(hd0)   /dev/sda
(hd1)   /dev/sdb

[EMAIL PROTECTED] grub
   GNU GRUB  version 0.95  (640K lower / 3072K upper memory)

[ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported.  For the first word, TAB
  lists possible command completions.  Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
  completions of a device/filename. ]

grub> root (hd0,0)
Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83

grub> setup (hd0)
Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no
Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... yes
Checking if "/grub/stage2" exists... yes
Checking if "/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes
Running "embed /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)"...  16 sectors are embedded.
succeeded
Running "install /grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+16 p (hd0,0)/grub/stage2 
/grub/menu

.lst"... succeeded
Done.

Gary



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Re: nv_sata

2005-07-18 Thread Dave

Pavel Jurus wrote:

If I remember well the easiest way to solve thist problem was to disable
in BIOS the second SATA channel (don't remember if this is the correct
name, but I had two SATA disks and I could use both of them even after
disabling the second unused interface).

Pavel





I dislike that solution.  Its not perfect by any means

My "workaround" was to do a blind install, then when everything was set 
up, install sshd and then remote in for a kernel upgrade.  2.6.11.xx 
works and you don't get the nv_sata spammage.


YMMV but I'd like to see a more elegant solution than disabling hardware 
or blindfolded installation. :)


Dave


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Re: GPG burns my notebook!

2005-07-18 Thread Corey Hickey
antongiulio05 wrote:

> Hi Corey,
> 
> I have launched your script in my chroot (after installed 'hwtools'), but I 
> got these errors:
> 
> $ sh temptests.sh all
> Running test: test_idle
> cat: /sys/bus/i2c/devices/0-0290/temp1_input: No such file or directory
> temptests.sh: line 85: / 1000: syntax error: operand expected (error token is 
> "/ 1000")
> 
> Giulio
> 
> 

Well, I'm back from vacation now.

If you want to run my script you need to configure it for your system. I
guess I'll go into more detail.

1. In Linux 2.6 all the lm_sensors drivers create sysfs "files". You
need to find your CPU sensor file. 'cd /sys/bus/i2c/devices' and see
what's there; you should find one or more symlinks to directories. Look
inside each one. The files named temp*_input correspond to the
temperature sensors. Cat each one until you see which corresponds to
your CPU temperature (they're probably scaled by 1000).

2. Open the script in a text editor. Near the top you'll see a
"TWEAKABLE VARIABLES" section. Think of that like a configuration file.
Replace the value being assigned to SENSOR with the path to the sysfs
file you found in the previous step. If necessary, replace the value
being assigned to DIVISOR too.

---
...at this point some people might be wondering why I don't just parse
the output of the sensors command. Catting a file and letting the shell
divide by 1000 is a lot faster than "sensors | awk '/CPU Temp:/ {print
$3}'", the fastest parse I can think of. Maybe I'm being picky, but I
wanted to avoid extra CPU use.
---

3. Look at the other values in the "TWEAKABLE VARIABLES" section. Change
them if you want.

4. Keep going down to the "TEST FUNCTIONS" section. Look at the
functions that start with test_. All the commands in those functions
must run on your system or the script will quit in the middle of a run.
You'll notice that I use dchroot for the programs that must run in my
32-bit chroot. All the other programs are in my shell's $PATH. Your
system will likely differ from mine and some of those commands will not
run. You have three options:
Option 1:
Alter the command to work on your system: remove "dchroot" if you need
to, type in an absolute path, etc.
Option 2:
Alter your system so the command works: configure dchroot, download
prime95 and cpuburn-in and put them in your $PATH, etc.
Option 3:
Remove the test if you're not interested in it or you can't make it run.
To do this, don't bother deleting the function -- just disable it by
removing its name from the ALL_TESTS variable up in the "TWEAKABLE
VARIABLES" section.

-Corey


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Re: comments about hardware

2005-07-18 Thread Mike Reinehr
Faheem,

On Monday 18 July 2005 12:36 am, Faheem Mitha wrote:
> Dear People,
>
> My bioinformatics research group at Duke is buying a server, which will
> mostly be used as a server, particularly for web based services. The idea
> here is that a user will submit a request for some bioinformatics
> calculation via a web interface (often using Python or R or similar), the
> server does the calculation, and returns it as a web page.
>
> None of us are experts about recent hardware, so would appreciate any
> feedback about hardware specs.
>
> The following quote is from Monarch Computers.

I'm currently running three dual-Opteron servers purchased last year 
from 
Monarch. Delivery was a little slow, but all three worked right out of the 
box. I've had no hardware problems, so I can't say anything about their 
technical support, but their sales support was good.

> We plan to run Linux on this. It has not yet been decided yet what, but it
> seems most likely that it will be either some Red Hat variant (Fedora
> Core, CentOS), or Debian (possibly Ubuntu).

I ordered my servers with Fedora Core in order to ensure that 
everything 
worked with Linux, then immediately reformated the HD's & installed 
Debian-AMD64. ;-)

> Ok, so here are some specific questions.
>
> 1) Dual core Opterons first came on the market in April. The sales rep
> said that AMD Dual Core Opterons did not work with Fedora Core. Since they
> only install Fedora and SuSE, they had no info about Debian. Any idea what
> the status is here? How well are they supported, and how stably do they
> run under Linux?

I have no experience with dual-core Opterons.

> Also, I was told that a dual core Opteron, which is somewhat more than
> twice the cost two regular Opterons of similar speed, is not equivalent to
> two regular Opterons in functionality. Can anyone point me to information
> about this, or offer a comment?

According to an article in LinuxHardware.org dual-core support is 
included in 
kernel 2.6.12-rc3

http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/21/1747217&mode=thread

> 2) I'm wondering if the listed motherboard is the best choice. I see it
> listed in
> http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/27/mainboards.html

I don't recall ever hearing any negative comments regarding Tyan MB's 
and 
have had no problems at all with mine. (S2882UG3NR).

> We are looking for the motherboard that has the least known issues.
> Preferably something that will work right out of the box.
>
> Google found me http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2004/09/msg00443.html
> but would be interested in other reports.
>
> The specs are here
> http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8spro_spec.html
>
> It looks like both the graphics card and the ethernet cards are onboard.
> Looks like the graphics card is ATI RAGE XL PCI, which supposedly works
> with the 'ati' driver. Is this under XFree 4.3?

I have no experience with the ati driver, as I do not run X Windows on 
my 
servers.

> The ethernet cards are an Intel Ethernet Pro 100, which supposedly works
> with the e100 driver and a Gigabit Broadcom which works with the tg3
> driver. There seem to be two cards here. Is that correct?

There are two gigabit ethernet ports which require the tg3 driver and 
one 100 
megabit port which requires the e100 driver. The only problem is in regard to 
Debian's refusal to ship the Broadcom proprietary firmware with their tg3 
driver and I confess to not having studied the situation at all. I just know 
that "it works."

> I'm kinda allergic to onboard cards. They are often trouble.
>
> Has anyone had experience with Debian Sarge installation with this? Does
> anyone have a board to suggest that they prefer to this?

I'm running three AMD64 Debian Sarge servers and they work, but I'm not 
running anything fancy, just basic server software, as well as an accounting 
system written in Acucobol. Most of the problems seem to crop up in the 
desktop/gui software.

> 3) I'm also wondering if peple have thoughts about the RAID setup. The rep
> said he would be using RAID 1, but I see RAID 10 is listed. I'll have to
> check on this. Anyway, assuming this corresponds to
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_array_of_independent_disks#RAID_10
> with each RAID 1 set as two drives, and 4 RAID 1 sets striped together,
> does this seem reasonable?

The main thing is not to even think about using the onboard SATA RAID 
controller. I can't explain it in detail, but it's crap. The approach your 
taking looks fine. I like RAID 10, as well. Disk drives are inexpensive 
enough now that the little bit of money you save by using RAID 5 just isn't 
worth it.

> Thanks.Faheem.
>
> ***
> ITEM NUM  PRICE PER ITEM TOT
>
> Monarch Empro Custom 2U Rack S   1.0075.00   7

Re: Almost there

2005-07-18 Thread Mike Reinehr
Gary,

On Monday 18 July 2005 03:31 pm, Gary Hodges wrote:
> Frederik Schueler wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 01:07:22PM -0600, Gary Hodges wrote:
> >>pivot_root: No such file or directory
> >>/sbin/init: 432: cannot open dev/console: No such file
> >>Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!
> >
> >Make sure your boot-loader loads the initrd along with the kernel.

There's no question that the initd is being loaded. That is what is 
giving 
you the error message. All the drivers necessary to mounting the HD have been 
loaded and it is attempting to mount the root partition and switch to it.

> Thanks for the reply.  I just went through the boot steps by hand and
> I'm fairly sure initrd has been loaded.  Here is what one of my grub
> menu options looks like:
>
> root (hd0,0)
> kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda2 ro console=tty0
> initrd /initrd.img
> savedefault
> boot
>
> There is something funny there though.  root is actually on sda1.  Also
> the savedefault command doesn't work when running those commands
> manually.  When I step through each command manually, changing to sda1
> obviously, everything looks fine to me (with the exception of
> savedefault responding with a command not found error).
>
> When I edit the command to change sda2 to sda1, upon reboot it has been
> changed back to sda2.  All attempts to boot the machine result in the

When you boot and receive the GRUB boot menu, use the cursor key to go 
down 
or up to highlight the boot option you've quoted above. (This also will stop 
the clock.) Then press 'e' to edit the boot entry. Once there, cursor down to 
the kernel line and again press 'e' to edit the line, changing 
'root=/dev/sda2' to 'root=/dev/sda1'. Hit 'esc' to exit the line and then 
press 'b' to boot. If your root file system is, in fact, located on /dev/sda1 
then you should be able to successfully boot.

Once you've booted successfully, look for the file /boot/grub/menu.lst, 
which 
will contain the above boot stanza. Edit that and you should have changed it 
permanently.

If all else fails, you might have to boot off of a Knoppix cd & rerun 
grub-install.

> Kernel panic.
>
> Gary

HTH's

cmr
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Re: e-machines M6809 + sarge

2005-07-18 Thread Javier Kohen
Hi Brendon,

El lun, 18-07-2005 a las 11:24 -0500, Brendon J. Colby escribió:

> Has anyone gotten Sarge installed on this laptop?

I installed AMD64 on this laptop long before Sarge. Use the newest
kernel available (2.6.10+ should be fine) or get ready for some googling
trying to find the exact kernel command-line to get older kernels to
boot. It boots, it works, no remaining issues for me nowadays (I never
tried the card reader, but everything else works under Linux).

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e-machines M6809 + sarge

2005-07-18 Thread Brendon J. Colby

Greetings,

I've been searching for a while trying to figure out this problem. I'm 
trying to get the AMD64 build of Sarge installed on my emachines m6809 
laptop. I can boot the AMD64 Sarge network install just fine and get 
through the inital installation, but when I reboot to finish the rest of 
the install, it hangs at the PCI hotplug section. It dumps out a bunch 
of APIC related errors I think (I'm at work, so I don't have the exact 
errors).


I know there have been multiple complaints about the APIC stuff causing 
problems and e-machines / Gateway refuses to offer a BIOS update. I 
can't find any of the un-authorized BIOS updates either (some people had 
luck updating to the m6811 bios). I've also tried giving the noapic boot 
options to no avail.


Has anyone gotten Sarge installed on this laptop?

Thanks.

Brendon Colby


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Re: Upgrading to current udev is disastrous if not on kernel 2.6.12

2005-07-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 02:19:37PM +0200, GOMBAS Gabor wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 12:33:12PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote:
> 
> > Packages should not depend on any kernel, since many people run their
> > own. However, I just don't understand why the package has been published
> > at all, since even in experimental there is no 2.6.12.
> 
> Because people already using 2.6.12 need it,

That's a pretty small set, so it's not a convincing argument.

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Re: [update] More 32bit packages for amd64

2005-07-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ed Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sunday 17 July 2005 13:28, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> Package fetching is done by reprepro and turning it more verbose gives
>> some more messages but not a download progress for files.
>> 
>> The package fetching is also going to be done by a cron job normaly.
>> Unless it gets an error it should not say anything (in the finished
>> package).  I will think about something for the initial install but my
>> current plan is to have it create an empty archive and start the cron
>> job once manualy in the background.
>> 
>> So, having an interactive (i.e. with download progress) update script
>> is not a high priority just now. Later, for people that don't want the
>> cron job, maybe. But the reprepro maintainer has to provide support
>> for that.
>
> How well will this work?  For instance, I do not really want to maintain
> a chroot.   The one app I sometimes miss is wine.  Do you think this can
> be supported with the new package arch?
>
> TIA, 
> Ed Tomlinson

Add wine and libwine to packages.list and it probably works already. I
haven't found anything besides libc6 which needs special tricks for
the conversion yet, the general conversion rules work very well.

And wine is on my todo. Next time I wanna play StarCraft at the
latest.

MfG
Goswin


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Re: Upgrading to current udev is disastrous if not on kernel 2.6.12

2005-07-18 Thread GOMBAS Gabor
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 12:33:12PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote:

> Packages should not depend on any kernel, since many people run their
> own. However, I just don't understand why the package has been published
> at all, since even in experimental there is no 2.6.12.

Because people already using 2.6.12 need it, since the previous udev
(more precisely, libsysfs that udev uses) had a bug which was exposed by
the 2.6.12 kernel.

Gabor

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Re: Upgrading to current udev is disastrous if not on kernel 2.6.12

2005-07-18 Thread GOMBAS Gabor
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 05:22:34PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

> I can't imagine how it's a good idea to upload a package which depends
> on a kernel not available for Debian yet.

It was a _very_ good idea since my custom udev rules did not work with
kernel 2.6.12 and udev 56, and my pendrive got mounted at the wrong
place and with the wrong mount options.

It can be argued whether udev 60 should have been uploaded to
experimental instead of unstable, but that's the maintainer's choice.

Gabor

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Re: nv_sata

2005-07-18 Thread Pavel Jurus
If I remember well the easiest way to solve thist problem was to disable
in BIOS the second SATA channel (don't remember if this is the correct
name, but I had two SATA disks and I could use both of them even after
disabling the second unused interface).

Pavel


On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 12:59 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Attila Kocsis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hy,
> >
> > I've tried to install sarge amd-64 on MSI K8N NEO
> > PLATINUM, but it complains at first at the network
> > card (I tried to use the nvidia 2 driver, though it is
> > nvidia 3), then after rebooting it keeps on writing:
> > nv_sata: Primary device added
> > nv_sata: Primary device removed
> > nv_sata: Secondary device added
> > nv_sata: Secondary device removed
> >
> > The SATA3/4 DMA was disabled in BIOS, but still have
> > the complaining...
> >
> > Any suggestion?
> 
> Linux doesn't much care for the bios. Check the docs in the
> kernel-source for the right options to the nv_sata module.
> 
> MfG
> Goswin
> 
> 


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Re: [update] More 32bit packages for amd64

2005-07-18 Thread Ed Tomlinson
On Sunday 17 July 2005 13:28, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Package fetching is done by reprepro and turning it more verbose gives
> some more messages but not a download progress for files.
> 
> The package fetching is also going to be done by a cron job normaly.
> Unless it gets an error it should not say anything (in the finished
> package).  I will think about something for the initial install but my
> current plan is to have it create an empty archive and start the cron
> job once manualy in the background.
> 
> So, having an interactive (i.e. with download progress) update script
> is not a high priority just now. Later, for people that don't want the
> cron job, maybe. But the reprepro maintainer has to provide support
> for that.

How well will this work?  For instance, I do not really want to maintain
a chroot.   The one app I sometimes miss is wine.  Do you think this can
be supported with the new package arch?

TIA, 
Ed Tomlinson



Re: comments about hardware

2005-07-18 Thread Ed Tomlinson
Hi,

Dual core support is not distro specific.  It depends on the kernel used.
I believe that debian, with a recent (2.6.12.3+) kernel should be fine.

Ed Tomlinson

On Monday 18 July 2005 01:36, Faheem Mitha wrote:
> 
> Dear People,
> 
> My bioinformatics research group at Duke is buying a server, which will 
> mostly be used as a server, particularly for web based services. The idea 
> here is that a user will submit a request for some bioinformatics 
> calculation via a web interface (often using Python or R or similar), the 
> server does the calculation, and returns it as a web page.
> 
> None of us are experts about recent hardware, so would appreciate any 
> feedback about hardware specs.
> 
> The following quote is from Monarch Computers.
> 
> We plan to run Linux on this. It has not yet been decided yet what, but it 
> seems most likely that it will be either some Red Hat variant (Fedora 
> Core, CentOS), or Debian (possibly Ubuntu).
> 
> Ok, so here are some specific questions.
> 
> 1) Dual core Opterons first came on the market in April. The sales rep 
> said that AMD Dual Core Opterons did not work with Fedora Core. Since they 
> only install Fedora and SuSE, they had no info about Debian. Any idea what 
> the status is here? How well are they supported, and how stably do they 
> run under Linux?
> 
> Also, I was told that a dual core Opteron, which is somewhat more than 
> twice the cost two regular Opterons of similar speed, is not equivalent to 
> two regular Opterons in functionality. Can anyone point me to information 
> about this, or offer a comment?
> 
> 2) I'm wondering if the listed motherboard is the best choice. I see it 
> listed in 
> http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/27/mainboards.html
> 
> We are looking for the motherboard that has the least known issues. 
> Preferably something that will work right out of the box.
> 
> Google found me http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2004/09/msg00443.html
> but would be interested in other reports.
> 
> The specs are here 
> http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8spro_spec.html
> 
> It looks like both the graphics card and the ethernet cards are onboard. 
> Looks like the graphics card is ATI RAGE XL PCI, which supposedly works 
> with the 'ati' driver. Is this under XFree 4.3?
> 
> The ethernet cards are an Intel Ethernet Pro 100, which supposedly works 
> with the e100 driver and a Gigabit Broadcom which works with the tg3 
> driver. There seem to be two cards here. Is that correct?
> 
> I'm kinda allergic to onboard cards. They are often trouble.
> 
> Has anyone had experience with Debian Sarge installation with this? Does 
> anyone have a board to suggest that they prefer to this?
> 
> 3) I'm also wondering if peple have thoughts about the RAID setup. The rep 
> said he would be using RAID 1, but I see RAID 10 is listed. I'll have to 
> check on this. Anyway, assuming this corresponds to 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_array_of_independent_disks#RAID_10 
> with each RAID 1 set as two drives, and 4 RAID 1 sets striped together, 
> does this seem reasonable?
> 
> Thanks.Faheem.
> 
> ***
> ITEM NUM  PRICE PER ITEM TOT
> 
> Monarch Empro Custom 2U Rack S   1.0075.00   75.00
> 
> RMC2K2-9I-XPSS,2U,8 Bays,SATA,   1.00   725.00   725.00
> 
> AIC 2U Riser Card/Rear Window1.00   112.00   112.00
> 
> Tyan S2882G3NR-D Dual Socket94   1.00   394.00   394.00
> 
> Amd OSA265FAA6CB Dual Core Opt   2.00   851.00 1,702.00
> 
> Thermal Grease, Shin-Etsu G675   2.0014.0028.00
> 
> THERMALTAKE A1838 AMD Opteron2.0025.0050.00
> 
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Re: nv_sata

2005-07-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Attila Kocsis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hy,
>
> I've tried to install sarge amd-64 on MSI K8N NEO
> PLATINUM, but it complains at first at the network
> card (I tried to use the nvidia 2 driver, though it is
> nvidia 3), then after rebooting it keeps on writing:
> nv_sata: Primary device added
> nv_sata: Primary device removed
> nv_sata: Secondary device added
> nv_sata: Secondary device removed
>
> The SATA3/4 DMA was disabled in BIOS, but still have
> the complaining...
>
> Any suggestion?

Linux doesn't much care for the bios. Check the docs in the
kernel-source for the right options to the nv_sata module.

MfG
Goswin


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nv_sata

2005-07-18 Thread Attila Kocsis
Hy,

I've tried to install sarge amd-64 on MSI K8N NEO
PLATINUM, but it complains at first at the network
card (I tried to use the nvidia 2 driver, though it is
nvidia 3), then after rebooting it keeps on writing:
nv_sata: Primary device added
nv_sata: Primary device removed
nv_sata: Secondary device added
nv_sata: Secondary device removed

The SATA3/4 DMA was disabled in BIOS, but still have
the complaining...

Any suggestion?

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