new 2.6.13 kernel

2005-08-29 Thread Rafael Rodríguez
Hi. In the new kernel, when make oldconfig'ing, i've seen a new option:

Preemption Model
 1. No Forced Preemption (Server) (PREEMPT_NONE) (NEW)
  2. Voluntary Kernel Preemption (Desktop) (PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY) (NEW)
  3. Preemptible Kernel (Low-Latency Desktop) (PREEMPT)

Does anyone know if it's already safe to select a preemptive kernel in amd64¿

Regards,

Rafael Rodríguez



Re: 64-bit java plugin (or lack thereof)

2005-08-29 Thread Frank
 Anyway, I tried using make-jpkg on both j2re-1.4.2-02 and j2re-1.4.2-01.
 Both have the same result -- they immediately crash at:
 http://games.yahoo.com/games/downloads/tx.html

 Can you please try that URL and tell me if firefox crashes for you?

Firefox 1.0.4 crashes, Konqueror 3.4.1 works.


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Re: new 2.6.13 kernel

2005-08-29 Thread Ernest jw ter Kuile
On Monday 29 August 2005 09:25, Rafael Rodríguez wrote:

 Does anyone know if it's already safe to select a preemptive kernel in
 amd64¿

If it wasn't save them I've had an unsafe kernel since I got myself an Amd64.

Anyway, It never crashed on me, (that I know of). I and my pc is switched on 
nearly permanently.

Ernest.


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Re: new 2.6.13 kernel

2005-08-29 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Ernest jw ter Kuile [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Anyway, It never crashed on me, (that I know of). I and my pc is switched on 
 nearly permanently.

I enabled the forcible preempt option and it seems to work fine on my
Ferrari.

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Re: new 2.6.13 kernel

2005-08-29 Thread Rafael Rodríguez
The same help of the option in kernels = 2.6.12 gave you a hint that it 
wasn't very safe in x86_64... however, i don't see any help at all in 
2.6.13...

Rafael Rodríguez

El Lunes, 29 de Agosto de 2005 17:34, Ernest jw ter Kuile escribió:
 On Monday 29 August 2005 09:25, Rafael Rodríguez wrote:
  Does anyone know if it's already safe to select a preemptive kernel in
  amd64¿

 If it wasn't save them I've had an unsafe kernel since I got myself an
 Amd64.

 Anyway, It never crashed on me, (that I know of). I and my pc is switched
 on nearly permanently.

 Ernest.



Problems with disc config when installing

2005-08-29 Thread Rupert Heesom
I seem to be having problems when configuring my disk setup during the 
net install for sarge amd64.


I'm trying to configure /home to be an MD within an LVM container.
Although the install can configure it, when I've rebooted the install, 
and installed evms, then it seems the LVM container has the wrong MD in it.


Without going into further details, has anyone else tried to configure 
an MD within an LVM using the amd64 install?


I'm wondering about using EVMS to reconfigure the /home LVM container 
that was created at install.


Also how do those using MD (raid1) handle the SWAP partition?   Do you 
leave the 2 partitions that would be used for an MD seperate and use 
each one for swap space, or do you use an MD for swap space?


Rupert


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Re: Problems with disc config when installing

2005-08-29 Thread Samat Jain

Rupert Heesom wrote:

I seem to be having problems when configuring my disk setup during the 
net install for sarge amd64.


I'm trying to configure /home to be an MD within an LVM container.
Although the install can configure it, when I've rebooted the install, 
and installed evms, then it seems the LVM container has the wrong MD 
in it.


Without going into further details, has anyone else tried to configure 
an MD within an LVM using the amd64 install?


No, but I have setup an LVM physical volume on top of an RAID1 MD device 
before. I did it from within the Debian installer, and without issue. 
Are you sure this is not what you want? I'm not sure I understand the 
purpose of an MD device made from an LVM physical volumes...


I'm wondering about using EVMS to reconfigure the /home LVM container 
that was created at install.


Also how do those using MD (raid1) handle the SWAP partition?   Do you 
leave the 2 partitions that would be used for an MD seperate and use 
each one for swap space, or do you use an MD for swap space?


You should keep swap partitions off of MD devices. If you've multiple 
swap partitions, you can pass the pri option to stripe among your swap 
partitions (ala RAID0) for a slightly performance boost. Running RAID1, 
RAID5, etc for a swap partition is a waste of diskspace and CPU cycles.


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Re: Problems with disc config when installing

2005-08-29 Thread John Livingston

 No, but I have setup an LVM physical volume on top of an RAID1 MD
 device before. I did it from within the Debian installer, and
 without issue. Are you sure this is not what you want? I'm not sure
 I understand the purpose of an MD device made from an LVM physical
 volumes...

Same question here.  I've built LVM on MD on amd64 twice, once from
the installer and once manually from the installer shell, no serious
problems either time.  Are you trying to run LVM and just back up one
volume of it on a smaller disk?


 You should keep swap partitions off of MD devices. If you've
 multiple swap partitions, you can pass the pri option to stripe
 among your swap partitions (ala RAID0) for a slightly performance
 boost. Running RAID1, RAID5, etc for a swap partition is a waste of
 diskspace and CPU cycles.


The kernel has a tendancy to store some data in swap even with lots of
free RAM, and there is a danger that the failure of a disk containing
a RAID0 swap could cause a crash or other unpleasantry.  It could just
as easily not, of course, but I've used MD + LVM for small-scale
production apps a few times and also am a bit paranoid =P.  Anyhow,
I've always preferred swap over RAID1/5 md wherever possible.

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The fan of the laptop never stops with amd64

2005-08-29 Thread A, Manchado

I recently bought a Turion laptop with Knoppix-32bit preinstalled.
The fan used to run and stop now and then.
Now I have installed debian-amd64-testing and when the fan starts 
working (15sec to 30 sec after booting) then it never stops again. 
Furthermore, the battery lasts 30% less time approx. than with 32bit.

I am wondering why, and got 2 hypothesis:
1) Turion is dissipating a lot more power when running in 64bit mode.
2) There is something wrong with the control of the fan in debian-amd64. 
However, all acpi modules (thermal.ko, fan.ko, etc.) are loaded at boot 
time (I had to add them to /etc/modules) and they seem to be working 
'cause I got battery level indication in the kde panel.

Has anyone experienced this behaviour? Is it normal?

Regards,
amm


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Re: The fan of the laptop never stops with amd64

2005-08-29 Thread Pascal Giard
Are you using powernowd?
powernowd allows dynamic cpu frequency and core voltage scaling.

For instance, my 1800MHz (1.5V) runs at 1001MHz (1.1V) most of the time.
Of course, the side effect is lower power (heat) dissipation so the
fan(s) can slow down.

-Pascal

On 8/29/05, A, Manchado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I recently bought a Turion laptop with Knoppix-32bit preinstalled.
 The fan used to run and stop now and then.
 Now I have installed debian-amd64-testing and when the fan starts
 working (15sec to 30 sec after booting) then it never stops again.
 Furthermore, the battery lasts 30% less time approx. than with 32bit.
 I am wondering why, and got 2 hypothesis:
 1) Turion is dissipating a lot more power when running in 64bit mode.
 2) There is something wrong with the control of the fan in debian-amd64.
 However, all acpi modules (thermal.ko, fan.ko, etc.) are loaded at boot
 time (I had to add them to /etc/modules) and they seem to be working
 'cause I got battery level indication in the kde panel.
 Has anyone experienced this behaviour? Is it normal?
 
 Regards,
 amm
 
 
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Where is nvidia-glx package ?

2005-08-29 Thread Yannick
Hi,

I cant found the packages to install the nvidia driver. It seems
everybody has it in his source list, but i dont. Please give me a line
to add to my source.list ...

Regards


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