Re: LUKS encrypted removable drives and Gnome

2006-11-02 Thread P|pex
--- Vitezslav Kotrla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: 

> Is anyone using LUKS encrypted removable drives in
> Gnome desktop? What
> is your experience?
> 
> When I plug-in my encrypted USB drive, Nautilus
> shows it properly in
> "Computer" place. When I click on the device's icon,
> I expect some
> dialog asking for passphrase; but window saying
> "Opening ..." appears
> instead and waits indefinitely.

Hi 
I have the same system - LUKS encrypted -with my USB
external HD, but when I connect the USBDisk, I insert
the passphrase in the box and it runs correctly.
This is my expirience with debian testing amd64.
I have no idea why it doesn't run on your system.

Gianluca

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Re: kernel compile.again.

2006-11-02 Thread Daniel Tryba
On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 01:22:16PM +0200, Daniel Tryba wrote:
> In my case the kernel just stops after:
> Initializing Cryptographic API
> io scheduler noop registered
> io scheduler anticipatory registered (default)
> io scheduler deadline registered
> io scheduler cfq registered
> 
> in 2.6.16.24 the next lines would be the RTC driver, agpgart and serial
> with my monolitic kernel config.

I got around to testing the latest rc kernel on a freshly updated etch:
The good news: 2.6.19-rc4 actually boots on my machine.
The bad news is that the machine locks up after a couple of minutes
(time to do some tracing and report this).
Even badder news is that the old 2.6.16.24 refuses to mount my root fs
due to some "unsupported optional features (4)" on the ext3 fs :(

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Re: xorg problem and 404 error on bugs

2006-11-02 Thread dam

>Perhaps someone can point me in the right direction.  Here's the
>problem:
...
>startx, get lowres.  CA+ doesn't change much, all 60 Hz refresh.  The
>monitor is a 21" drafting flat CRT capable of high refresh and highres.
...
I have just configured a new core2duo sid box, but still xorg, and it
has nvidia card 7950gtx or something (very nice card, latest/greatest),
totally supported, but sligtly difft config fm normal... You need the
nvidia-kernel* package, you might need to roll-your-own kernel   
(probably  not, but things usually do work better ) with the
nvidia-kernel-source and you need the nvidia X driver from nvidia-glx
dpkg and you can configure the xorg.conf with nvidia-xconfig or
nvidia-settings debs... there is more complete documentation here:

https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292993
... and here:

http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/index.php

there are warnings about using the nvidia drivers from nvidia's web
site ... this is one that is really a lot easier if you read a little
first. 

Dave Moscrip


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LUKS encrypted removable drives and Gnome

2006-11-02 Thread Vitezslav Kotrla
Is anyone using LUKS encrypted removable drives in Gnome desktop? What
is your experience?

When I plug-in my encrypted USB drive, Nautilus shows it properly in
"Computer" place. When I click on the device's icon, I expect some
dialog asking for passphrase; but window saying "Opening ..." appears
instead and waits indefinitely.

At the same time 'ps' command says

...
vitko 7806  5495  0 20:40 pts/4
00:00:00 /usr/bin/pmount-hal /dev/sdh
vitko 7807  7806  0 20:40 pts/400:00:00 pmount /dev/sdh usbdisk
root  7809  7807  0 20:40 pts/400:00:00 /sbin/cryptsetup
luksOpen /dev/sdh _dev_sdh
...

so something is going on, but no prompt for passphrase. Any ideas? I'm
runnig AMD64 Sid.

Vit




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Only surround sound with emu10k1 - no stereo

2006-11-02 Thread Anders Brandt Petersen

Hi,

Untill recently (a couple of days ago) I had sound using direct digital 
cable to my amplifier - this was mono, stereo and surround sound. Now it 
only plays direct digital sound: AC3 or DVD's. When playing stereo like 
ogg's I can see the 'Analyzer' in xmms move but no sound is played.


I have looked for warnings and errors but there are none. Even the 
devices in /dev are there.


Device:
00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)

I'm using alsa.

Result from lsmod:

Module  Size  Used by
snd_emu10k1_synth  12672  0
snd_emux_synth 44544  1 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_seq_virmidi12672  1 snd_emux_synth
snd_seq_midi_emul  11392  1 snd_emux_synth
snd_seq_dummy   8580  0
snd_seq_oss41472  0
snd_seq_midi   13888  0
snd_seq_midi_event 13184  3 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq66432  9 
snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_emul,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event

snd_emu10k1   132420  2 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_rawmidi33312  3 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi,snd_emu10k1
snd_ac97_codec115928  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_ac97_bus7168  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm_oss49568  0
snd_mixer_oss  23040  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm   104072  3 snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_device 13968  8 
snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi

snd_timer  30984  3 snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 15120  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem9856  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep  15624  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd69992  15 
snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep

soundcore  16032  1 snd
nvidia   5667800  22
ipv6  302688  17
ppdev  14216  0
lp 18120  0
button 12448  0
ac 10120  0
battery15496  0
ext2   75664  1
dm_snapshot22200  0
dm_mirror  26496  0
dm_mod 68176  2 dm_snapshot,dm_mirror
loop   20752  0
i2c_viapro 14104  0
i2c_core   29312  2 nvidia,i2c_viapro
parport_pc 43048  1
shpchp 46636  0
pci_hotplug19716  1 shpchp
parport47372  3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc
psmouse47888  0
serio_raw  12292  0
tsdev  13312  0
emu10k1_gp  8704  0
gameport   22160  2 emu10k1_gp
evdev  15872  2
pcspkr  7936  0
floppy 72424  0
ext3  147600  7
jbd68648  1 ext3
mbcache14728  2 ext2,ext3
ide_cd 47136  0
cdrom  41768  1 ide_cd
usbhid 46880  0
sd_mod 26240  11
via82cxxx  13828  0 [permanent]
sata_via   14084  9
libata 80792  1 sata_via
scsi_mod  162224  2 sd_mod,libata
generic 9860  0 [permanent]
ide_core  157056  3 ide_cd,via82cxxx,generic
tg3   111492  0
ehci_hcd   38280  0
uhci_hcd   29328  0
thermal20624  0
processor  36584  1 thermal
fan 9736  0

/proc/asound/devices

 0: [ 0]   : control
 1:: sequencer
 4: [ 0- 0]: hardware dependent
 6: [ 0- 2]: hardware dependent
 8: [ 0- 0]: raw midi
 9: [ 0- 1]: raw midi
10: [ 0- 2]: raw midi
16: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback
18: [ 0- 2]: digital audio playback
19: [ 0- 3]: digital audio playback
24: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture
25: [ 0- 1]: digital audio capture
26: [ 0- 2]: digital audio capture
33:: timer

Thanks

Kind Regards
Anders



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Re: Installing Debian amd64 on an asus P5W DH Deluxe + E6600 : kernel on installer broken + bugs in d-i when changing kernel + modules

2006-11-02 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 05:08:21PM +0100, Eric Valette wrote:
> Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 09:46:03AM +0100, Eric Valette wrote:
> >>2) Downloaded 
> >> ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/installer-amd64/20061022/images/gtk-miniiso
> >> burned it and booted it. Starts well but hangs after a while because of 
> >> spurious interrupts related to disk activities (SATA) endless reset of 
> >> controller. Have also spurious irq listed in dmesg. Did not know if a 
> >> kernel was correctly running on this mtherboard + CPU combination. So 
> >> tried to find another instable AMD64 distrib.
> > 
> > Could you please file an installation-report?  There are some tools in
> > the installer that can show us more information about the hardare you're
> > using.  You can probably also run them on an installed system.
> 
> If you hunt asus you can download the user manual with all chipsets
> listed. But I will report once I managed to install. Nothing really
> special except PCI-E and sky2 ethernet driver.

We have a P5W Delux at work which had various problems too.  It is
running windows XP, and after about a week of time it stops booting.  It
shows the splash screen of windows, and at the point it should change to
a higher resolution you just get a black screen.

Sometimes in the event log it shows disks errors.  This is with an SATA
disk.

We've replaced the disk, still the same problem.  We've replaced the
motherboard, power supply, and still have the same problem.

I've also tried it using Debian (i386 netinst etch beta3), I've ran a
badblock read-only test, didn't find any problems.  Then I ran a 
read-write test, after a short time the disks basicly stops responding.
The led of the disk on the PC is constatly on, instead of most of the
time on, blinking.  At that point, the tests only shows failed sectors.

We've replaced the disk with an PATA disk, and didn't see a problem so
far.

We also have an identical PC that doesn't show any problems.

I really can't do any tests with this, since someone is using it.


Kurt


> 
> 
> > Can you please show the messages the kernel reports?
> 
> No. No time to do that as it would require booting with a serial line
> connected + compiling a newer kernel solve the problem. Will do once the
> system is operationnal.
> 
> > 
> > Is what you're seeing simular to:
> > http://bugs.debian.org/309964
> > 
> > Or:
> > http://bugs.debian.org/393977
> 
> For the irq message yes. For the SATA controller reset no.
> 
> 
> -- eric


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Re: Kernel 2.6.19-rc4 custom debian package

2006-11-02 Thread Stephen Olander Waters
On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 00:13 +0100, Jean-Michel Pouré wrote:
> * How do I enable console debugging in the kernel. I heard it was
> possible, after a crash, to hit a few keys and display an error message.

I find the ethernet console to be most convenient if you have a second
PC.
 1. Boot into single user mode
 2. load the netconsole module with appropriate parameters
 3. on your other PC, run: netcat -u -l -p 
 4. exit single user mode

Crash/debug info should appear on the netcat terminal.

$KERNEL/Documentation/networking/netconsole.txt

$ modinfo netconsole
filename:   /lib/modules/2.6.18-1-686/kernel/drivers/net/netconsole.ko
author: Maintainer: Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
description:Console driver for network interfaces
license:GPL
vermagic:   2.6.18-1-686 SMP mod_unload 686 REGPARM gcc-4.1
depends:
parm:   netconsole: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/[dev],[tgt-port]@/[tgt-macaddr]
 (string)


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Re: xorg problem and 404 error on bugs

2006-11-02 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 12:10:20PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 11:22:30AM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote:
 
> Well there is a man page for dexconf on sarge at least.  404 errors
> means the web server doesn't have what you asked for.  So either you
> asked wrong, or the server is misconfigured, or it really doesn't have
> what you asked for.

Since I got the 404 errors on www.debian.org and following its links, a
404 error shouldn't be there.  For example, I can go directly to the Nov
2006 archive to see this current thread but if I go to the search page
and search xorg, I see this thread but clicking on it gives me a 404
error.


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Re: xorg problem and 404 error on bugs

2006-11-02 Thread Mike Reinehr
On Thursday 02 November 2006 11:10, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> > Any idea on the 404 error?  How do I follow discussion of a particular
> > bug (e.g. 381612)?  How could I have found dexconf on my own?
>
> Well there is a man page for dexconf on sarge at least.  404 errors
> means the web server doesn't have what you asked for.  So either you
> asked wrong, or the server is misconfigured, or it really doesn't have
> what you asked for.

I've been seeing this error all week. I search the Debian User mailing list 
archive and receive a list a emails matching my criteria. When I click on one 
of the email links I receive the 404 error. These are not old emails, either, 
but from the current quarter. Something is wrong with the mailing list 
archives.

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Re: strange network problem

2006-11-02 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 11:39:57AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 01:00:50PM +0100, Erik Mouw wrote:
 
> > Europe doesn't need such plugs because over here earth and ground are
> > two different and unconnected things, whereas in the US and Canada they
> > are usually connected together at the electrical panel (at least it was
> > like that in the houses I've seen in New York state). The ground wire
> > is the ground for the electrical system. It can and is allowed to have
> > a different potential from the earth (within limits, of course). The
> > earth wire is connected to the earth by a metal wire burried a couple
> > of meters deep into the earth.
> 
> Certainly true as far as I can tell.  It does seem that ground and
> neatral are considered one and the same for many things here.

Some of the confusion arises because of the difference between what
people call things and what the code calls things.  I haven't read the
US code, but here in Canada there are several wires within a residential
installation that are 'grounded'.

Neutral wire from the pole transformer, grounded with a
grounding conductor to a grounding electrode at the pole.  This
neutral wire is also grounded at the main panel within the
house.

System grounding conductor to the system grounding electrode
within the house.  Also bonding conductors that connect
everything non-electrical that needs to be 'grounded', e.g. gas
pipes, well casings, etc.  The only purpose of this is to keep
the potential of the hots from rising too far above ground.
Without this, a two-phase 120-0-120 V could change to a 60-x-180
V which would damage equipment.

Equipment bonding conductors carried in all cables to bond
connected equipment and metal conduits, outlet boxes, etc.

Some equipment has a separate bonding conductor (isolated
ground) that connects a recepticle (socket, outlet) gound
terminal to the main panel separate from the equipment bonding
conductor within the cable and separate from the metal box
enclosure.

The only place where all of these wires are at the same potential is at
the service entrance box where they are all tied together.  At the
equipment, if there is no current on the bonding conductor it should be
a ground potential.  Neutral will be above ground because of the
resistance to the current flow.  Improper wireing elsewhere in the
building (e.g. cross-connected neutrals from different circuits) can
result in a net current flow through a cable which can induce a current
on the bonding conductor raising the potential at an outlet.  

There's an excellent publication on all this called:

How to protect your house and its contents from lightening:
surge protection: IEEE guide for surge protection of equipment
connected to AC power and communications circuits.

Wouldn't life be simpler if all computer interconnects where straight
fibre?  No ground loops in a light path.

Doug.


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Re: xorg problem and 404 error on bugs

2006-11-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 11:22:30AM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote:
> In case I somehow messed up, I've purged xorg and am reinstalling
> (downloading now).  No man page for dexconf although its there at
> /usr/bin/dexconf and I see that the man page belongs to x11-common which
> is still installed.

Yes dexconf is the tool that is used to generate the config after you
answer all the questions.  It is not run if you manually modify it
though, unless you go and force it to run.  I have found this handy at
times.

> Re the nv driver: I don't know.  I'll try to look into this.  If its
> just too-new hardware, I can wait.  While I would like higher
> res/refresh, I can live with less as long as I can run a web browser.
> 
> Any idea on the 404 error?  How do I follow discussion of a particular
> bug (e.g. 381612)?  How could I have found dexconf on my own?

Well there is a man page for dexconf on sarge at least.  404 errors
means the web server doesn't have what you asked for.  So either you
asked wrong, or the server is misconfigured, or it really doesn't have
what you asked for.

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Re: strange network problem

2006-11-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 01:00:50PM +0100, Erik Mouw wrote:
> Europe has unearthed plugs only for double insulated equipment (which
> can be recognised by a symbol resembling two squares in each other).
> Double insulated equipment comes with the flat unearthed "europlug"
> that is supposed to fit in all sockets, earthed or not (except of
> course in the UK which uses a different socket).
> 
> Note that the europlug is a lot safer than US plugs: with the europlug
> it is impossible to touch the life wire through the metal because the
> poles are made from plastic with only a small metal tip. The tip is
> already well in the socket before it actually connects to the life
> wire, the still visible plastic part of the pole can be touched without
> hazard. In the US the poles are made from metal so it's quite easy to
> hurt yourself (but hey, 110V is a lot "safer").

The north american plugs also bend much easier and are often bent when
you pull them out unless you are very nice to them.

> Most if not all desktop computers aren't officially double insulated so
> they need to be earthed and come with an earthed plug. Unfortunately
> lots of older houses still have unearthed sockets and the earthed plugs
> fit quite easily. Current regulations require earthed sockets in all
> new houses (or rather: for all new electrical installations). If you
> really don't have a grounded socket for your computers, make at least
> sure that the ground wires from all computer equipment is connected to
> each other (easy to do with an earthed extension socket). Better is of
> course to have the socket replaced by an earthed one.

I think all houses I have seen built in the last 35 years have all
earthed outlets.  Older than that very well might not have earthed
outlets.  Old buildings have a tendancy not to be kept in north america.
We apparently always want new.  Historic value has little meaning here.

> Yeah, I agree the UK system is silly and has ugly bulky plugs. I guess
> the idea is to protect the cable from the plug to whatever is connected
> to the other end of the cable. That would only make sense if you don't
> have fuses in the electrical panel.

I wonder if it is a leftover from when people didn't have fuses in the
electrical panel, or proper lightning rods or anything else.  I know my
dad has told me when he was a child in the 50s lightning storms could
cause interesting sparks and such coming out of outlets, which of course
you don't see anymore.

> Europe doesn't need such plugs because over here earth and ground are
> two different and unconnected things, whereas in the US and Canada they
> are usually connected together at the electrical panel (at least it was
> like that in the houses I've seen in New York state). The ground wire
> is the ground for the electrical system. It can and is allowed to have
> a different potential from the earth (within limits, of course). The
> earth wire is connected to the earth by a metal wire burried a couple
> of meters deep into the earth.

Certainly true as far as I can tell.  It does seem that ground and
neatral are considered one and the same for many things here.

> There are still some places in Europe where you actually have two life
> wires operating at 115V wrt to the ground instead of a 230V life wire
> and a ground. The reason for this is that if you balance a 3 phase
> triangle system properly you don't need the ground wire and hence you
> can save 25% on copper wiring. Right now this is seen as dangerous
> cause equipment with a single switch can still be life, so houses are
> converted to connect to a 3 phase star configuration with ground wire.
> (It was however nice cause without a residual current detector you
> could run US 110V equipment without a transformer by connecting it to
> one of the life wires and earth.)

I thought it was usually that you had 230V between neatral and a live
wire, and about 400V between a pair of live wires (out of the 3
available).  That is what I remember being the standard setup in denmark
at least.  Here we have 2 phase to residential with 230V between them
and 115V between one and neatral/ground.  What countries ran the other
way?

> That's possible in Europe because earth and ground are not the same
> thing.

It ought to be possible here since earth and neatral should only become
the same thing at the electrical panel.

> Another great card is the Western Digital/SMC WD8013 (or even the 8
> bit ISA WD8003). It uses the same 8390 chipset as the NE2k, but its
> packet buffer is memory mapped where the NE1k and NE2k have their
> packet buffers only reachable through slower IO space. Back in the old
> days I could easily flood a thin ethernet using a 8003 in a 386DX40 :)

I never used the WD cards.  I remember SMC made some awful chips that I
didn't get along with.

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Re: xorg problem and 404 error on bugs

2006-11-02 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 10:11:00AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 09:44:59AM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote:
> > I'm running Etch amd64 and trying to get xorg working, am having a
> > problem and trying to find the answer for myself.  I go to the debian
> > web site and try to look for relavent bugs (my first time doing this)
> > and find 381612 re dpkg-reconfigure not updating xorg.conf because it
> > says its been modified when it hasn't.  I can't find out how to read
> > discussion on this issue.
> > 
 
> man dexconf.  Very handy to restore the x config back to the way it
> should be according to debconf.
> 
 
> Does the nv driver support your card?  The 7300 is rather new, not sure
> if the xorg driver supports that yet.
> 
> > I would like higher res/refresh.

Thanks Len,

In case I somehow messed up, I've purged xorg and am reinstalling
(downloading now).  No man page for dexconf although its there at
/usr/bin/dexconf and I see that the man page belongs to x11-common which
is still installed.

Re the nv driver: I don't know.  I'll try to look into this.  If its
just too-new hardware, I can wait.  While I would like higher
res/refresh, I can live with less as long as I can run a web browser.

Any idea on the 404 error?  How do I follow discussion of a particular
bug (e.g. 381612)?  How could I have found dexconf on my own?

Thanks,

Doug.


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Re: Kernel 2.6.19-rc4 custom debian package

2006-11-02 Thread Mike Reinehr
On Wednesday 01 November 2006 17:13, Jean-Michel Pouré wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> Because of several daily freezes under AMD64 + nvidia,
> I decided to make a custom 2.6.18-rc4 Debian package.
>
> I followed the normal procedure:
> * Download 2.6.18 kernel and patch agains 2.6.19-rc4
> This is done by patch -p1 < patch.txt
> * cp /boot/config.xxx /usr/src/linux
> * make gconfig (and save)
> * make-kpkg kernel-image --initrd
> * make-kpkg kernel-headers
>
> After kernel installation and reboot, the freeze *** seem to dissapear
> ***, as I could copy three DVDs of DV content to my hard disc.
>
> Just a few questions:
>
> * How do I enable console debugging in the kernel. I heard it was
> possible, after a crash, to hit a few keys and display an error message.
>
> * What 64 bits kernel flavor should I choose? Debian chooses standard,
> but I have an Athlon64x2. Should I choose Athlon64 type?
>
> If people are interested, I can publish my kernel debs. But I doubt it
> is very interesting, as it is so easy to build a custom package with
> Debian.
>
> Kind regards,
> Jean-Michel Pouré

This is documented in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sysrq.txt.
"You need to say "yes" to 'Magic SysRq key (CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ)' when
configuring the kernel"

HTH!

cmr
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Re: xorg problem and 404 error on bugs

2006-11-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 09:44:59AM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote:
> I'm running Etch amd64 and trying to get xorg working, am having a
> problem and trying to find the answer for myself.  I go to the debian
> web site and try to look for relavent bugs (my first time doing this)
> and find 381612 re dpkg-reconfigure not updating xorg.conf because it
> says its been modified when it hasn't.  I can't find out how to read
> discussion on this issue.
> 
> I then go to the mailing list archives and find some relavant threads
> but get a 404 error when I try to access them, e.g under debian-testing 
> "xserver-xorg-core installing problem" gets 404 error for
>   //srv/-srv10/msg00033.html
> 
> Perhaps someone can point me in the right direction.  Here's the
> problem:
> 
> Hardware: Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 with AMD64 Athlon 3800+, video card is 
> Asus EN7300GT (nVidia GeForce 7300GT), 1 GB ram. Dual 80 GB SATA hard
> drives raid1/lvm.
> 
> Using aptitude, install xorg and get all the dependencies OK.
> Seemingly normal debconf questions.
> 
> startx, get lowres.  CA+ doesn't change much, all 60 Hz refresh.  The
> monitor is a 21" drafting flat CRT capable of high refresh and highres.
> 
> Check the xorg.conf file and see that its using the vesa driver at
> 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480.
> 
> Try running dpkg-reconfigure and get the same message as bug 381612
> about not updating xorg.conf because its bee altered.  I would like to
> see if there's a workaround for this bug but don't know how.

man dexconf.  Very handy to restore the x config back to the way it
should be according to debconf.

> I would like to know how to track this down for myself.  Is this the
> right mailing list?
> 
> I would like to have it use the nv driver.

Does the nv driver support your card?  The 7300 is rather new, not sure
if the xorg driver supports that yet.

> I would like higher res/refresh.

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xorg problem and 404 error on bugs

2006-11-02 Thread Douglas Tutty
I'm running Etch amd64 and trying to get xorg working, am having a
problem and trying to find the answer for myself.  I go to the debian
web site and try to look for relavent bugs (my first time doing this)
and find 381612 re dpkg-reconfigure not updating xorg.conf because it
says its been modified when it hasn't.  I can't find out how to read
discussion on this issue.

I then go to the mailing list archives and find some relavant threads
but get a 404 error when I try to access them, e.g under debian-testing 
"xserver-xorg-core installing problem" gets 404 error for
//srv/-srv10/msg00033.html

Perhaps someone can point me in the right direction.  Here's the
problem:

Hardware: Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 with AMD64 Athlon 3800+, video card is 
Asus EN7300GT (nVidia GeForce 7300GT), 1 GB ram. Dual 80 GB SATA hard
drives raid1/lvm.

Using aptitude, install xorg and get all the dependencies OK.
Seemingly normal debconf questions.

startx, get lowres.  CA+ doesn't change much, all 60 Hz refresh.  The
monitor is a 21" drafting flat CRT capable of high refresh and highres.

Check the xorg.conf file and see that its using the vesa driver at
1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480.

Try running dpkg-reconfigure and get the same message as bug 381612
about not updating xorg.conf because its bee altered.  I would like to
see if there's a workaround for this bug but don't know how.

I would like to know how to track this down for myself.  Is this the
right mailing list?

I would like to have it use the nv driver.

I would like higher res/refresh.

Thanks,

Doug.


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Re: strange network problem

2006-11-02 Thread Daniel Tryba
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 01:00:50PM +0100, Erik Mouw wrote:
> > My 8019s did not work well.  My 3c509 on the other hand does work well.
> 
> Another great card is the Western Digital/SMC WD8013 (or even the 8
> bit ISA WD8003). It uses the same 8390 chipset as the NE2k, but its
> packet buffer is memory mapped where the NE1k and NE2k have their
> packet buffers only reachable through slower IO space. Back in the old
> days I could easily flood a thin ethernet using a 8003 in a 386DX40 :)

They were great indeed. Douglas, if you need one of those I still have a
couple of them (both 8003 and 8013) lying somewhere collection dust :)

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Re: strange network problem

2006-11-02 Thread Erik Mouw
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 06:35:19PM -0600, Stephen Olander Waters wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 19:19 -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote:
> > I agree that limiting the gigabit to 10 Mb/s is probably a kernel module
> > parameter but the forcedeth module is not mentioned in the kernel
> > documentation that I can see. (rgrep forcedeth .)  I don't see it in any
> > of the generic networking kernel docs either.
> 
> Hrm...  the parameters don't look that helpful. You might contact the
> author, I guess.

No need to contact the author. Use ethtool or the older mii-tool.

  ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off speed 10 duplex half
  mii-tool --force=10baseT-HD eth0


Erik

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Re: strange network problem

2006-11-02 Thread Erik Mouw
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 02:24:33PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> > Now, I notice from your e-mail address that you're in Canada, where they 
> > don't 
> > have quite as sophisticated an electrical system as we have here in the UK  
> > (all wall sockets earthed and individually switched, all plugs 
> > non-reversible 
> > and fused in the live phase, all sockets wired in one big ring).
> 
> Plugs here are earthed (unless very old), unlike many places of europe
> that only recently started doing such things (say denmark for example).

Europe has unearthed plugs only for double insulated equipment (which
can be recognised by a symbol resembling two squares in each other).
Double insulated equipment comes with the flat unearthed "europlug"
that is supposed to fit in all sockets, earthed or not (except of
course in the UK which uses a different socket).

Note that the europlug is a lot safer than US plugs: with the europlug
it is impossible to touch the life wire through the metal because the
poles are made from plastic with only a small metal tip. The tip is
already well in the socket before it actually connects to the life
wire, the still visible plastic part of the pole can be touched without
hazard. In the US the poles are made from metal so it's quite easy to
hurt yourself (but hey, 110V is a lot "safer").

Most if not all desktop computers aren't officially double insulated so
they need to be earthed and come with an earthed plug. Unfortunately
lots of older houses still have unearthed sockets and the earthed plugs
fit quite easily. Current regulations require earthed sockets in all
new houses (or rather: for all new electrical installations). If you
really don't have a grounded socket for your computers, make at least
sure that the ground wires from all computer equipment is connected to
each other (easy to do with an earthed extension socket). Better is of
course to have the socket replaced by an earthed one.

> I have never understood why the brits believe every plug needs a fuse in
> it.  Makes the plugs rather expensive, and the device ought to already
> have a fuse, as should the electrical panel of the house.  Does anyone
> else on the planet use that system?

Yeah, I agree the UK system is silly and has ugly bulky plugs. I guess
the idea is to protect the cable from the plug to whatever is connected
to the other end of the cable. That would only make sense if you don't
have fuses in the electrical panel.

>  Our plugs also can not be reversed
> unless the device was designed with a plug that specifically can be
> reversed.  Again I know denmark that isn't the case.

Europe doesn't need such plugs because over here earth and ground are
two different and unconnected things, whereas in the US and Canada they
are usually connected together at the electrical panel (at least it was
like that in the houses I've seen in New York state). The ground wire
is the ground for the electrical system. It can and is allowed to have
a different potential from the earth (within limits, of course). The
earth wire is connected to the earth by a metal wire burried a couple
of meters deep into the earth.

There are still some places in Europe where you actually have two life
wires operating at 115V wrt to the ground instead of a 230V life wire
and a ground. The reason for this is that if you balance a 3 phase
triangle system properly you don't need the ground wire and hence you
can save 25% on copper wiring. Right now this is seen as dangerous
cause equipment with a single switch can still be life, so houses are
converted to connect to a 3 phase star configuration with ground wire.
(It was however nice cause without a residual current detector you
could run US 110V equipment without a transformer by connecting it to
one of the life wires and earth.)

>  On the other hand
> denmark typically has residual current detector breakers, which we only
> seem to use in bathrooms and such here.  Why we don't use them here I
> don't really know.

That's possible in Europe because earth and ground are not the same
thing.

> > First, make sure the power sockets serving both computers are properly 
> > earthed -- preferably using the proper test equipment.  If there is a 
> > problem, get it fixed as soon as possible because it could be a death trap. 
> >  
> > Second, try running both computers from the same power socket, via a long 
> > extension lead.

If you're using UTP wiring that's not necessary cause UTP has
transformers on each end of the connection in order to avoid ground
loops. For good old thin or thick ethernet wiring you'd better earth
the computers.

> > Even if your network card is permanently damaged, NE2K-alike cards with the 
> > old 16-bit connector are still available second-hand for not much money.  
> > Realtek 8019 or 8029-based cards work well.
> 
> My 8019s did not work well.  My 3c509 on the other hand does work well.

Another great card is the Western Digital/SMC WD8013 (or even the 8
bit ISA WD8003).

Re: Problems with Wine on Debian AMD 64

2006-11-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Glen M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi ,
>
> I'm a total noob to linux so bare with me, I've had a friend help me
> through alot of this so far.
> I am trying to get 'wine' installed with 32bit libraries in order to
> run some 32 bit applications.
>
> Initially I started with installing ia32-libs and ia32-libs-dev
> packages as per http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
> using apt-get.
> After this we checked the symlinks as per http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
> Downloaded the source files,  ran configure and than make when the
> below message is returned.
>
> "Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf64-x86-64
> (/usr/lib/libsicuuc.a(ubidi.ao)) to format elf32-i386 (gdi32.0GpWwq.o)
> is not supported"
>
> After this error was returned and we check what package contained
> libsicuuc.a we than downgraded libicu36-dev to libicu34-dev this
> didn't solve the problem. Thus after more bashing my mate stumbled
> across the following article
> http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg253544.html
> which contained a patch. On attempting to apply this patch it returns
> an error of
>
> ' patch:  malformed patch at line 7:
> TEST_ICUDATA_LIB="${ICUDATA_LIB-${i}data.a}" '
>
> Can someone help, please I getting desperate to play CS: Source and DoD again.

I suggest using the i386 deb. The simplest way is to use a 32bit
chroot and install it there normaly with apt-get.

Debian wine packages for amd64 are being worked on for etch which then
compile through the normal buildd.

MfG
Goswin


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Re: Kernel 2.6.19-rc4 custom debian package

2006-11-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jean-Michel Pouré <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Dear friends,
>
> Because of several daily freezes under AMD64 + nvidia, 
> I decided to make a custom 2.6.18-rc4 Debian package.
>
> I followed the normal procedure:
> * Download 2.6.18 kernel and patch agains 2.6.19-rc4
> This is done by patch -p1 < patch.txt
> * cp /boot/config.xxx /usr/src/linux
> * make gconfig (and save)
> * make-kpkg kernel-image --initrd 
> * make-kpkg kernel-headers
>
> After kernel installation and reboot, the freeze *** seem to dissapear
> ***, as I could copy three DVDs of DV content to my hard disc.
>
> Just a few questions:
>
> * How do I enable console debugging in the kernel. I heard it was
> possible, after a crash, to hit a few keys and display an error message.

Try alt-sysrq-h. Best to test before it crashes as this doesn't work
after a full panic, just after oopses.

> * What 64 bits kernel flavor should I choose? Debian chooses standard,
> but I have an Athlon64x2. Should I choose Athlon64 type?

They only differ slightly in function alignment and ordering. The
benefits are minimal. But you might as well if you build your own
kernel.

MfG
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Re: System freeze

2006-11-02 Thread Jan De Luyck
On Wednesday 01 November 2006 18:36, Jean-Michel Pouré wrote:
> I could reproduce the bug:
>
> I have several backup DVD with large DV files from a camcorder.

This is on i386.

I have also found a way to reproduce this problem. If I open any directory in 
Konqueror, I have on the top left the tree, with an 'Audio CD' entry with 
a 'spinning' icon on it. Shortly after doing this, my pc will hard-lockup.

I'm currently rebuilding my kernel with all debugging options enabled to see 
if I can catch anything. At home I can try some serial-console monitoring, I 
don't have another box here that I can abuse for that right now.

Kind regards,

Jan

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