Re: how to compile a recent xen dom0 kernel on amd64?

2007-09-13 Thread Martin Marcher
Hello,

2007/9/13, Jonas Meurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 What is the current situation with xen on amd64?

I have a dell SC1435 with 2 Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2212
HE (4 Cores) I just installed the xen kernel image from etch
(2.6.18-4-xen-amd64) (installed it shortly - 1 or 2 weeks - before
etch became stable) no downtime related to xen since. A few power
outages and minor mistargeted shutdowns (I hate having a bulk of terms
with nested screen sessions) but apart from that it serves depending
on our situation between 4 and 12 domUs

hth
martin


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Re: how to compile a recent xen dom0 kernel on amd64?

2007-09-13 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 01:42:22AM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote:

 What is the current situation with xen on amd64? the debian/sid archive
 keeps no linux-image-2.6.22-2-xen-amd64, and I was not able to compile
 a 2.6.22 dom0 kernel with debian xen patches applied on my amd64 system.

IMHO there is no upstream support for kernels newer than 2.6.18. The
last official opinion I heard was that either Xen gets integrated into
the Linux kernel or support for Xen will be dropped from Debian, since
there are now other free alternatives that are fully supported on recent
kernels.

Support for domU is already merged into 2.6.23, but dom0 is not yet
and I've heard no plans about when it will be.

 And indeed some patches seem to be applied (see below). But i still
 don't see any xen options in menuconfig. Maybe the 2.6.22 xen patches
 are for i386 only and not ported to amd64 yet?

Based on the output those patches do not contain Xen. I don't know what
they are for.

Gabor

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Re: how to compile a recent xen dom0 kernel on amd64?

2007-09-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Gabor Gombas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 01:42:22AM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote:

 What is the current situation with xen on amd64? the debian/sid archive
 keeps no linux-image-2.6.22-2-xen-amd64, and I was not able to compile
 a 2.6.22 dom0 kernel with debian xen patches applied on my amd64 system.

 IMHO there is no upstream support for kernels newer than 2.6.18. The
 last official opinion I heard was that either Xen gets integrated into
 the Linux kernel or support for Xen will be dropped from Debian, since
 there are now other free alternatives that are fully supported on recent
 kernels.

 Support for domU is already merged into 2.6.23, but dom0 is not yet
 and I've heard no plans about when it will be.

Linus only merged in some i386 domU xen patches. The option isn't even
available to compile it on amd64 not to mention that it would work at
all. I guess it will still take a few kernels before we can use
upstream source.

 And indeed some patches seem to be applied (see below). But i still
 don't see any xen options in menuconfig. Maybe the 2.6.22 xen patches
 are for i386 only and not ported to amd64 yet?

 Based on the output those patches do not contain Xen. I don't know what
 they are for.

The newest working patches I know are from RedHat and for 2.6.20. They
also have 2.6.21 but I heard that were instable.

 Gabor

MfG
Goswin


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Re: how to compile a recent xen dom0 kernel on amd64?

2007-09-13 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 13/09/2007 Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
  And indeed some patches seem to be applied (see below). But i still
  don't see any xen options in menuconfig. Maybe the 2.6.22 xen patches
  are for i386 only and not ported to amd64 yet?
 
  Based on the output those patches do not contain Xen. I don't know what
  they are for.
 
 The newest working patches I know are from RedHat and for 2.6.20. They
 also have 2.6.21 but I heard that were instable.

Are these patches for amd64 DomU only, or for Dom0 as well?

And where do I get these patches? Do I need to use the redhat linux
sources and patch them with the redhat xen patches, or how is it
supposed to work?

I guess that make-kpkg may be used from the linux source anyway, as it
works with upstream linux sources as well.

greetings,
 jonas


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Re: how to compile a recent xen dom0 kernel on amd64?

2007-09-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jonas Meurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 13/09/2007 Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
  And indeed some patches seem to be applied (see below). But i still
  don't see any xen options in menuconfig. Maybe the 2.6.22 xen patches
  are for i386 only and not ported to amd64 yet?
 
  Based on the output those patches do not contain Xen. I don't know what
  they are for.
 
 The newest working patches I know are from RedHat and for 2.6.20. They
 also have 2.6.21 but I heard that were instable.

 Are these patches for amd64 DomU only, or for Dom0 as well?

I386/amd64 dom0/U. For the (usualy) working ones:

http://hg.et.redhat.com/kernel/

And for development versions:

http://hg.et.redhat.com/kernel-dev/

 And where do I get these patches? Do I need to use the redhat linux
 sources and patch them with the redhat xen patches, or how is it
 supposed to work?

You have to clone a mercurial repository. Includes a full kernel tree
so prepare to spend some time and bandwith.

 I guess that make-kpkg may be used from the linux source anyway, as it
 works with upstream linux sources as well.

yes.

 greetings,
  jonas

MfG
Goswin


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forcedeth wierdness

2007-09-13 Thread Dean Hamstead

any thoughts why a forcedeth (nvidia) onboard nic would be
detected, but not presented as a usable card?

i also have an onboard sky2 card which seems to work fine.

i have tried disabling things in the bios but to no avail.

im using a winbond motherboard.

i can give more detailed outputs if needed.

forcedeth has worked fine for me on other mboards *shrug*

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Re: forcedeth wierdness

2007-09-13 Thread Jonas Bardino
Dean Hamstead wrote:
 any thoughts why a forcedeth (nvidia) onboard nic would be
 detected, but not presented as a usable card?
 
 i also have an onboard sky2 card which seems to work fine.
 
 i have tried disabling things in the bios but to no avail.
 
 im using a winbond motherboard.
 
 i can give more detailed outputs if needed.
 
 forcedeth has worked fine for me on other mboards *shrug*
 
 Dean

Hi Dean

I'm not sure this is the same problem, but I remember having problems
with asus nforce boards and forcedeth until I disabled firewire
(IEEE1394) in the BIOS.

If that doesn't help you may need to provide some more information like
log output from the card initialization and the output of ifconfig -a .

Cheers, Jonas

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